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    What's with this ' straight pride ' parade in Boston? No doubt those who are behind it are anti gay activists. Do you have to come out as been straight to take part in the march? Just a lot of silly nonsense.
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    What's with this ' straight pride ' parade in Boston? No doubt those who are behind it are anti gay activists. Do you have to come out as been straight to take part in the march? Just a lot of silly nonsense.
    I guess it's like the people who complain about Black History Month and demand a White History Month. Or the All Lives Matter in response to Black Lives Matter. I saw something that stated the movements supporting minorities are like a minority individual at a restaurant saying he or she is very hungry and the other movements are like others in the restaurant shouting yeah well we're all hungry.

    Also I think this thread should be renamed "The Cuch and Kevin Thread."

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    Also I think this thread should be renamed "The Cuch and Kevin Thread."

    Amen to that brother.

    I remember when people were posting all that ' Black lives matter ' stuff. I kid you not that I know a person who got banned from FB for posting ' White lives matter '. He was only joking posting it. Having a bit of a laugh. Not meaning anything by it. Wasn't a long ban. But it also came with a warning about future conduct. I found it so funny that FB would not allow such a thing to be posted. I know others who posted things like ' Asian lives matter '. Again just taken the p!ss. They didn't get banned or get a warning. No idea what it is about white lives.
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    Ok Cuch and Kevin, you can introduce me as your special guest.
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    I don’t think we’re allowed to say Asian anymore. Seriously, are we? And who determines what is correct and incorrect? Offensive or not offensive? The offensive police?
    Hi Kevinjoseph, glad to see this thread up and running, so to speak, as I enjoy reading it. Cuchculan, get yourself an Ireland football jersey fo God’s sake.

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    Welcome to the show Jamie.

    There are much worse things on fb. I have read the 'moderators,' and there are thousands of them who are very poorly paid and have to meet a quota based on the speed at which they moderate and not the quality, receive basically no training and many succumb to ptsd and addiction because of the videos of murders and things they have to watch and read. FB outsources all that to another company that basically isn't accountable to anyone and this just gives FB the ability to claim it is concerned about and dealing with this issue. Not all that different than the FCC censoring tv and radio on a highly inconsistent basis. Trump's twitter was being called for deletion by a few awhile back as they claimed it violated rules against hate speech or something.

    I just think that if you limit people's access to opposing views or new ideas or whatever, it hampers open discussion, the ability of individuals to address things they disagree with in a mature way, and would even so a tolerant, democratic society needs dissent. Look at China/North Korea, or the world of Big Brother in 1984. All opposing viewpoints are violently suppressed if the autocrats fear them. I would add, tangentially, that even the US is becoming a bit like this but voluntarily. People watch news networks they feel they agree with and read papers that do the same.

    Censorship is a tough issue. Balancing freedom of speech and information with not allowing filth and hate propaganda to spread. It's definitely an ethical issue, which is an interesting area but very tricky. I know in the US our Puritan heritage is a lot more hung up on things than many other places. There's a Mark Twain short story called the incident in harrisburg or something where a small town is very puritanical and even has 'lead us not into temptation' as its motto. a con man comes along and uses their greed to steal a bunch of money from them with a fake investment scheme. it ends with the town changing its motto to 'lead us into temptation.' Twains point was that if our will power and virtues etc are never tested they atrophy. I feel the same applies in censorship.

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    I have a mixed opinion on what should and should not be allowed. There are certain groups who spread false stuff around. In Ireland they are trying to stop these people. By law. I agree with that. Mainly got to do with vaccines. They are claiming to be stating facts. What they are saying is not factual at all. But they are putting people off from getting their kids Vaccinated. Which is a danger. Last year and early this year we saw two diseases make a return. Not heard of them in decades. The vaccines were stopping people catching them. Suddenly we have all these cases of them. Their claim is that the vaccines leads to autism. Which is not true at all. There is another vaccine to help stop girls get cervical cancer. I think only about 56% of people got the vaccine. That was because of this group and the claims they were making about the vaccine. More lies they were telling people. I do hope they begin to legally stop them. Post rubbish claims and you can be done by law. They seriously have nothing to back their claims up. If they did I wouldn't want them stopped. It would be a fair debate based on actual facts. As it is they are putting lives at risk. Also causing old forms of illness to return. Measles and Mumps and things like that. We had zero cases for so long. Then last year this mad spike suddenly. Because of these clowns who refused to have their
    kids vaccinated.

    Freedom of speech can be a good thing if it is factual. Plus it does depend on the different laws in the different countries. If a country has a race law you might get into trouble for making a post that is deemed racist. It depends what exactly you write. If it is going to be a hate filled post I think it has be censured. If you have a fair debate I have nothing wrong with that at all. But can you debate some issues without hate? Without breaking any laws of certain countries. Fair to say that laws can differ from country to country. What might be OK in the US might be a crime in Ireland. We are just talking about words. There was vote here last year on a blasphemy law that was ancient. I said it was just a bluff. People of Ireland voted to get rid of it. Now the bluff part? Bring in a much stronger law that covers everything. Not just religion. Race and sex and all of that sort of stuff. My thinking at the time was there was no way they were going to leave the door open for anybody to be able to have a go at others over their religion. One very old law went and a more modern law was introduced. Parts of it I do agree with. They are the more obvious parts. Me calling you a name because of your skin colour. That is just common sense. As Ireland was a white country up until about 2 decades ago, we never needed any race laws. Then came all the different religions. Which I think you should be allowed express your opinion on. Lord knows they express their opinion on our religion. I don't think the police would ever arrest them over what they say. For fear of been called ' racist '. Mainly talking Muslim / Islamic here. They get away with so much. Just because they are not Catholic. Touch them and you have big protests. Police need to man up and explain to them that the laws of this country are for them too.

    Could go on for ever with this post. But now we will have the weather with @JamieWAgain
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    I agree with you 100 percent Cuchculan. The same thing with vaccinator s is happening here as well. And we have the added problem of illegal immigrants pouring in thru our borders and most of these people have never been vaccinated. We have a dangerous rise in measles now, for example. As for the other side, it hasn’t been proven that vaccinations don’t contribute to autism in random children. I do think there is a link. But the heavier
    Burden is a rise in diseases that we had previously wiped out,, measles being one of them.

    2years ago my primary doctor gave me a flu vaccination. We have so many strains of the flu, and there is no gte that the flu vaccine will eradicate the flu. 1 week after receiving it I woke up with Bell’s palsy. The very first question the neurologist asked me was “did you have the flu vaccine recently?”
    An obvious question and I should have been told that possible side effects is Bell’s Palsy.

    It didn’t stop me from getting the shingles vaccine this year, though. Won’t get flu shot ever again.
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    We’ve been having stormy weather this week in my neck of the woods. Mid 90’s (F) and off and on rain. The heat came very early this year. Wouldn’t trade my weather in for anywhere else though. Paradise.

    It hasn’t stopped me from swimming my laps in the early morning before work. It’s my own time and my own space and my favorite part of my day. Rising early, diving in and go. I just go.

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    Vaccines. Not vaccinator. That sounds like a hat a British royal would put on her head. Lol. Auto correct.

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    Maybe it is just me. But I have heard nothing that convinces me there is a link with the vaccine and autism. Now granted we know children can get autism. Here is were their little theory comes into play. My little Johnny had the vaccine and now he has autism. I am sure little Johnny would have gotten autism even if he didn't get vaccinated. But they want something to blame it on. So many kids get some form of autism as a rule. Just like so many would be born disabled as a rule. It is called life. I am not buying into anybody claiming it is the vaccine giving them all autism.

    Got the flu jab last year. Had the flu within a day. Doesn't really work for six days. There is that chance you will pick up before the jab kicks in. That was my first time getting it. We shall see later in the year. Never heard of anybody else getting anything bad after getting the jab. That is a new one on me.

    Time for food. No sun here. Don't think we will be getting a Summer this year.

    Vaccinator. - I'll be back. ( Arnie Film )
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    My unpopular opinion is that the Moon is not actually part of Mars

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    And how do you know that? Where you ever there?
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    I'm actually from Mars and I stopped on the Moon on the way here. Back off, ya Fenian!

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    I don't always agree with the laws in this Country. But they want to bring in a law were anybody under the age of 18 can't have any form of cosmetic surgery done. Loads gets their lips and the likes done. Last year they banned sunbeds for anybody under the age of 18. There are times they get it right. Times I will give them credit.
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    Iowa's governor Kim Reynolds vetoed a vote to expand our state's medical cannibis program so that it would actually help people. Right now it is limited so that qualifying patients can receive a maximum of 4.5 grams of cannabis every 90 days. The standard dosage for most conditions? A gram a day. Reynolds reasoned that if it were increased Iowans would become cannabis addicts and overdose on it, and referred to her personal experience as someone dependent on alcohol for years and years. She has three drunk driving charges on her record. My thought is that it's pretty clear pharmaceutical companies are lobbying hard AF to prevent the legalization of medical cannabis here while they frantically try to synthesize the chemicals in cannabis, patent that synthetic cannabis, and then profit immensely. Meanwhile Illinois, next door, has legalized recreational cannabis. Profits before people, I guess.

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    They always want to make money on it. That is how they roll. They come out with a new form of medication and then out price themselves. At least here that is what happens. People can't afford the new medication. Latest one out was for CF. They wanted a price that was far too high and couldn't be afforded for this medication. The public expected the government to pay for it. Lot of CF sufferers here. The price was running into the millions. That would only get you so much of the medication. A deal was finally reached with the company who make this medication. Which made it more cost effective.

    Medical Cannabis has to be gotten via license here. So far the government has only handed put a few of these. What it means is you can travel to a country were it is legal and bring it back with you. How dumb is that? Most people go to the Netherlands. Leader of our Country gave a speech just the other day about Medical Cannabis. Let us just say that people are calling for his head after that speech. After all he promised, what he all but said, was against its use. So, long way to go here before anything like that is made legal for everybody. No idea why they don't let the public vote on it. They done this for same sex marriage and the blasphemy laws and Abortion. I think they would know the outcome of this one well in advance and if that is what they don't want, there is no way they will hand it over for a public vote.
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