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    IDK but we don’t have enough testing kits even now.

    If they had no test kit for it last year it could have been around without being known

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    Look how many cases there are now. It would have spread last year. This thing is not stopping any day soon. Unless they find a vaccine. Something to halt it in its tracks. Going to just keep on moving.

    In the shops here today they have new lines on the ground. That is were you stand. Next marked line is were the next person stands. All the same distance. Eerie to see stuff like that in shops. Just so people don't stand too close together. Certain shops allowing only 2 at a time in. Other shops just closing up until this is all over. Nobody has ever seen the likes of it before. Not in our lifetime.
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    Given what Biden said at the recent debate....he's going to lose anyway. It's ultimately the VP. He'll probably get desperate and beg Hillary to VP for him.
    Neither one of them could have put together the team that we have on this. The rest is up to us and how much we prevent the spread.
    The more we prevent it, the faster we can get through this.

    Once the virus passes, it will recover pretty quickly. My main goal is to pay down my credit card.

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    They are pumping 1 trillion collars into your economy because of what is happening. That was even on Irish radio the other day. Some special circumstances that allows the US mint to do that. Will help in a lot of areas that money is lost out on. Even smaller traders will be getting a dig out. Local shops and the likes. Save them all from going under. Might not be enough if this lasts months. That was more a short term fix. They are hoping things will clear up by the end of April. Which I doubt very much. Trump can be made to look good if the spread is stopped in the US. Measures he put in place. He might still come out on top. Best of doing that is to predict higher numbers than will really happen. Our government said it could reach up to 80,000 dead. That before anybody died in this country at all. It won't get anywhere near that figure. Then our government can say it was because of them and the measures put in place. Makes them look good.
    Yah, it's called "quantitative easing" - and it not really a good thing.

    Basically, we only have so much gold to back all of the money we have. If we print more money (the "QE"), then the overall value of that money decreases due to still only having the set amount of gold. Germany overdid this in the 1930s and it nearly bankrupted them. It ultimately causes problems with buying things if we are not careful. Our gas prices have fallen nearly 40% - due to a LOT of extra supply and nobody going anywhere! That's good for now, at least. There is less strain on employees to pay extra to get to work, and they can use the extra money to pay debt (that's what I am doing - credit card interest rate is 19%!)

    We will see much higher number of cases due to having more tests. It's very encouraging so far that we have only lost 70 or so people; that could be a LOT higher (think China and Italy).

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    When did this stuff really hAppen?

    I got really, really sick last year. Kaiser tested me for everything, and I'm still paying off all the tests, x-rays etc.
    I couldn't breathe I felt like a house was laying on top of my chest.

    It was the worst I've ever felt in my entire life.

    I blamed the wildfires going on here,

    Now I wonder if it was this corona crap.
    It was probably the wildfire. The Wuhan virus was still limited to the city...and it hadn't been heard of.
    I had a similar scare to you in 2016 except I had a sinus infection that was so severe, it caused an eye hemorrhage. A blood vessel must have burst in my eye and I had blood in the vitreous fluid - inside the eyeball! I had sonograms on my eye and neck, a CAT scan, three blood tests, and angiogram, an EKG, a urinalysis, eye scans...…

    I was told through the process that (1) I had a detached retina and would face permanent blindness, (2) I had a hemorrhagic stroke because my blood pressure was high (from taking decongestants). A retina specialist found no detachment or tear...….and all of the tests that were done only concluded that I needed to be put on blood pressure medication for borderline hypertension!

    I ended up turning off an electric air purifier in my house and the sinus infection disappeared in 36 hours!

    The "blood floater" long cleared and I actually see better now than I did then - in BOTH eyes!

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    One woman claims she caught the virus twice. Did hear that one on the radio. They were checking her story out. Imagine that was the case? Those who recover from it, get it a second time. This sort of folds in with what was said a few years back. That a super bug would strike the world and there would nothing to help anybody out. More talking about the way people misuse antibiotics. Slightest thing wrong and they run to a doctor. A virus will git us that no antibiotic can help. They have been expecting this for a long time now. I heard that one a good few years ago. They would need to come up with new types of antibiotics as the old ones will simply stop working. I think we have reached that day. They might not have thought ' this was it '. But maybe they will change their minds. Back then they said it would kill millions. In one sense it was like they were expecting something like this. In another sense, if they were, why wee they not ready for it?
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    Given what Biden said at the recent debate....he's going to lose anyway. It's ultimately the VP. He'll probably get desperate and beg Hillary to VP for him.
    Neither one of them could have put together the team that we have on this. The rest is up to us and how much we prevent the spread.
    The more we prevent it, the faster we can get through this.

    Once the virus passes, it will recover pretty quickly. My main goal is to pay down my credit card.

    Ironman, I couldn’t agree more. Every single word.

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    Trump is floating the idea of giving everyone $1000 now.

    Why didn't Obama do the same instead of bailing out the banks?

    I was on the Yang Train until he dropped out before I could vote for him. Left with commie Bernie and creepy uncle joe.

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    Things sort of normal here, sort of not. Stores are pretty much empty, bit surreal. Theres still no toliet paper. Lot of offices are shut and people are working from home.

    Governments been a bit incompetent. For a while its policy was "herd immunity whilst cooconing the elderly" (we are not going to do much, if you all get it we'll all be immune). They then realized that people would die with that approach. Now there's a bit more action. Suspect we'll be on lockdown later this week.

    Got to stay indoors and qurantine if you have a cough or if someone in your household does. Lot of people I know are off.

    Trump will win the US election unless theres something very, very, very major that comes out or happen between now and the election. Would have said was a sure thing, but this coronavirus thing is making everything a bit uncertain.
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    Trump is floating the idea of giving everyone $1000 now.

    Why didn't Obama do the same instead of bailing out the banks?

    I was on the Yang Train until he dropped out before I could vote for him. Left with commie Bernie and creepy uncle joe.
    The banks were the ones losing the money in 2008. People had been defaulting on their loans and mortgages - $4.25/gal gas prices led to more expensive food....hence people paid to get to work and survive, but fell short on bills. For long-term recessions, $1000 handouts are dangerous. The goal is to prevent runs on the banks, which nearly happened in 2008. This time, it's a run on the toilet paper industry. The banks are fine, interest rates where creeping up slowly, which is healthy (you do still want people to save money, but also spend money to inject money into the economy......for times like this!). Lowering interest rates allow for cheaper borrowing.

    Trump wanted to give $1,000 a month -> Bernie HAS to outdo it; he wants every household to get $2,000 a month. Yeah, that's not sustainable.

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    Things sort of normal here, sort of not. Stores are pretty much empty, bit surreal. Theres still no toliet paper. Lot of offices are shut and people are working from home.

    Governments been a bit incompetent. For a while its policy was "herd immunity whilst cooconing the elderly" (we are not going to do much, if you all get it we'll all be immune). They then realized that people would die with that approach. Now there's a bit more action. Suspect we'll be on lockdown later this week.

    Got to stay indoors and qurantine if you have a cough or if someone in your household does. Lot of people I know are off.

    Trump will win the US election unless theres something very, very, very major that comes out or happen between now and the election. Would have said was a sure thing, but this coronavirus thing is making everything a bit uncertain.
    Joe and Bernie have no clue. It's probably the Bernie supporters who are on the beach partying on Spring Break - breathing all over each other.

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    My brother and his family have two female cats...….Athena......and Isis . No joke! She was born before the terror group formed, though.

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    Joe and Bernie have no clue. It's probably the Bernie supporters who are on the beach partying on Spring Break - breathing all over each other.
    If they're behaving like some people of my age are here - then yeah, they most likely are. Quite a few here who are life as normalling, "it's just the flu and we're low risk", whilst missing the part that they can pass it onto those who aren't high risk. Anyone elderly, or with another chronic condition. it's horrifying.
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    If they're behaving like some people of my age are here - then yeah, they most likely are. Quite a few here who are life as normalling, "it's just the flu and we're low risk", whilst missing the part that they can pass it onto those who aren't high risk. Anyone elderly, or with another chronic condition. it's horrifying.
    It should be string to show up real quick. Italy having a newspaper containing TEN pages full of obituaries should be a good message on what this virus can do if we are "Buckwild on Spring Break." Miami, Florida police shut down the beach on them! They can't fly to Mexico, so they are staying here,

    Ironic - one of my spring breaks in college was spent suffering from the flu with a 104F/40c fever.

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    I think they need to close down non essensial places. When you think about it, what exactly do we need to remain open? Shops to buy food. If people are on welfare, some place to pick that up to have money to buy your food. We all need a chemist open. Medication. So with that said, why are eating establishments all still open? Not just restraunts. Other places too. They are non essential. Trains and buses are still packed. If places are closed down do we need public transport? These are the places / things they should have shut down from day 1. Pubs and clubs are all shut down. Hairdressers and barbers, dentists are all still open? In Italy everywhere had to shut by 6PM. That even done nothing to stop the spread of the virus. So close all non essenital places down. Places we can live without.

    Let us look at Italy. First 2 weeks they only had a small enough number of cases. That is were we are at right now. 200 or so cases. From there it got out of control. People who imagine this is just going to go away are living on another planet. That is not going to happen. Wait till after weeks 5 and 6. That is when it took down most of Italy. All these outdoor measures put in place won't help if a family member brings it into the home.

    As for the US election? Trump could win by default. If the virus is still active in the US and voting is called off, does he not get to stay in office? Nearly sure those are the rules. Ireland has no government at the moment. We have an acting government. Following the election this virus hit. The old government is still in power until a new one can get enough seats to form a government. Way that is looking it will be the same 2 parties as last time. But they still need 9 more people. Until that happens, under law, the old government is still in power. Same can happen in the US. No vote and Trump stays in office.
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    it's people in denial (like the bumbling idiots running our gov had been) who are going out and acting as if nothing is happening. Denial and denial of science is deadly. We're still a bunch of incompetents because of there's still insufficient tests and shortages of essentials like masks for healthcare workers. People could be carrying the disease, completely asymptomatic, going to the market, drugstore, etc and spreading it around. There really isn't a solution other than everything stay the hell away from each other for several weeks or months. Now there's talk that schools will remain shut down until fall. I would think that also mean companies need to allow working remotely also until then. If I'd known that before, I would've shopped the last time I was at the store for more than 2-weeks supply so I wouldn't have to return too soon. "The sky is falling" crowd it turned out were right.

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