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    How many doses were in one batch? That is the main question. My niece got that vaccine as was also very sick after it. Which is a common theme. That one bad batch might have contained up to a million doses. Who wins out of that? Those against vaccines. This is like proof to them that they have been right all along. Feeds right into their hands. Our government tried to act quickly to play down events. But a number of other countries also stopped using that vaccine. Same reasons. Will people trust it now? Johnson & Johnson is American. We had up to 2 million doses of that already ordered. Before it was even approved. Is a right mess up here in Ireland at the moment.
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    Feeling rough for 24-48 hours seems to be happening with any of them, its your immune system reacting to it. Other than a bit of a sore arm, feel fine now. Agree about ammunition. We've had J&J ordered as well. But looks like that won't be coming until later this year. Not so much of an issue here though. Just Pfizer and AZ for now, possibly the Moderna showing up.

    So here we have the Football FA cup final happening in May. Seems they've decided thats going to go on as normal. As a "test". No distancing in the crowds. Other than take a test before you go in, take one afterwards. Few people panicking over that. But way things are going, willing to bet most people will have had a first vaccine in May. Could go bad, could be fine.
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    Anti vaccine lot are all saying, if you didn't get sick in the last year, why take a vaccine that will make you sick now. That is their new big line. Always going to be something they could now use. They have nothing to say about Pfizer because after that you feel nothing at all. Some people find taken these sorts of things hard as a rule. No matter what they take they get sick. Others are always fine with such things. The last thing the government needed was bad press surrounding the vaccine.

    Big gamble with the FA cup. But just another ploy to have people take the vaccine. Over here they are using festivals. Music and the likes. If you got the vaccine there will be a festival on for you. Some people simply love music enough to get the vaccine just to be able to go back to gigs again. Same will apply to football. Pick the things they love the most. Use them as a way to make people take the vaccine.

    I can see why some countries jumped at getting the Russian vaccine. Get what you can, when you can. Ireland is finding that out now. As vaccines have been cancelled for this week.
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    Honestly, I take medication with quite serious risks and pretty unpleasant side effects. Get called into the GPs every few months to check that it the medication isnt in fact causing serious harm. They are no joke. It is not just a case of take a pill and thats it. Everytime I change a dose or change medication I feel ill. But very little choice there if I actually want to be a functioning adult. So this is nothing new for me. If AZ is causing blood clots, then by the looks of how many rhere has been, that risk is still a lot lower than the risk of me getting liver damage from my current medication (which is still very low.)

    I dont know, I've heard quite a few people say they feel rubbish after Pfizer here. Mum was in bed for the entire next day, colleague was off sick for two. Similar to me with the AZ. Seem to be if you're a pensioner, you dont get the side effects, but if you're young, you likely feel ill.
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    I guess they simply want to check it out a bit more. Chances are it will be back in use by the end of the week. But will people accept it? That is the big question been asked over here. It has played into the hands of those against vaccines. My older brother got the Pfizer and not a bother with him. He is not old age. That seems to be doing good here. Funny how things work. Pros against the cons come the end of the day. Sick for a day to be safe for about 6 months. Is a choice a lot of people will have to make. Chances are many of them will be fine. Just not this has happened it is making people aware of it. Now even an African country has stopped using it. That is not good at all. I will be curious to see how it all plays out from here. Numbers today are only about 600,000 have had their first shout of any vaccine. That is very low. They expected to be much higher than that at this stage.
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    Had the vaccine this evening - got the Astrazeneca. Didn't get told which until they're about to inject it. Very surreal expierence. Seemed very efficient. In, jabbed, out. Didn't really feel the needle. Wasn't really painful or anything. Took about two minutes to go through. Get the second one in twelve weeks here.
    Now Italy and Germany have stopped the Astrazenca vaccine because it?s causing blood clots that make people DIE!!!

    Hope you?re going ok

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    Doing fine, thanks for asking.

    Theres been a few cases, by the looks of it in the EU, likely from a bad batch of it. UK gets it supply from elsewhere, so if it is that, ours wont be affected. Weve not had it here, 10 million have had it here and been fine.
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    Oh good I was worried
    Still concerned about the long term side effects, didn’t think I’d need to worry about immediate death !!!

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    Radio shows here had people on talking their side effects after getting the AZ vaccine. Talk about how to put others off wanting to get it. Just have a few hundred on talking about bad side effects. The radio stations will claim free speech. Now that the AZ vaccine has been put on hold they say all these bad things about it if they want. As a rule you are not allowed do that over here without proof to back your claims up. Is like hunting season looking for those who got very sick. Nothing anybody can do to stop them.
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    Seems some side effects are worse than others.


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    I’ve decided
    If they start forcing the vaccine here I’m going to buy a fake arm!!!
    That will get the jab!
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    Seems to be a batch issue, yeah. Right to recall it until they figure out why thats happened. Manufacturer screwed up most likely. Not sure where the EU ones are made, know it's a different place to the UK ones though. It's been heard about here, but had little effect. Still trusted. But this whole thinot going to help persuade people to take the thing on the continent. Could well just be a coincedence though.

    Don't know where J&J is coming from, but if it's the US, you're going to be waiting a while, they're not exporting until they're done.

    Feels very surreal watching the rest of Europe go back into lockdowns or extend it, whilst we're starting to open up again.
    Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson (New Jersey, USA) are the three that I knew of.

    AstraZeneca was also pulled in Romania, although it was just reported that the vaccine is back to being ready for use.
    Viktor Orban was given the Chinese vaccine; He's upset at the slow distribution in the European Union. Hungarians would rather have ones from the West, too.

    In surveys of preferences among the five vaccines currently used in Hungary, Sinopharm ranks last behind three vaccines developed in the West and validated by the EMA - the Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, and AstraZeneca vaccines - as well as Russia's Sputnik V.
    We have started some exports to Canada and Mexico. I think I can actually go for the first dose now, but I am sure it will be a mess with all the requests.
    We had a lot made; it is now in the distribution. With our new President, he'd probably vaccinate the illegal immigrants coming in through Mexico before sending some to Europe. No wonder Putin is having his way with him.

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    I’ve decided
    If they start forcing the vaccine here I’m going to buy a fake arm!!!
    That will get the jab!
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    Eeew….that NASTY!
    Given the current Congress, I wouldn't put it past them.

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    Seems some side effects are worse than others.


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    If he wanted baked sausage, he could have just gone to his store and bought some.
    Corona vaccine acting like Viagra? He wishes!

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    The AZ vaccine is still on hold here. Will be till maybe next week. but when it comes back you have to try and make the public believe in it. Right now it is getting a lot of bad press. Seems most of the bad batch landed in Ireland. Thousands of people speaking out about how they felt after getting the AZ vaccine. That was just their first dose. Will all these people actually want a second dose of something that made them all very sick? Then on the news yesterday was that the AZ vaccine was been put on hold in the UK for a month. People were guessing as to why this would happen. When most probably the makers just couldn't keep up with the demand. but again it done nothing to help the image of the AZ vaccine. Which at this moment in time nobody wants to go near. So that would be PR exercise number 1. Making people trust the vaccine again. This played right into the hands of the anti vaccine mob.
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