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    Australian's video game censorship is outrageous and UK's porn restriction list of BDSM is outrageous. Thanks politics for infringing on the rights of citizens to choose to do things as consenting adults.

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    I might need a lot of alchohol Thursday night. I fear we're doomed however this election turns out. They're all going to doom us. All of them. We're just doomed.
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    I might need a lot of alchohol Thursday night. I fear we're doomed however this election turns out. They're all going to doom us. All of them. We're just doomed.
    The EU are not going to make it any easier on the UK. They have made that very clear. Make an example of the first country to jump ship. If May does get back in it will be more of the same. She has said exactly what she has planned for the future. Now with all these attacks it might just help her get elected. Other parties want to remain in the EU with the open borders. All this latest stuff is playing right into her hands. Case of how tough she reacts over the coming week to what has happened over the past two weeks. The public want a swift tough reaction. I am sure she is fully aware of this. Her team will be telling her how she can cost this election. Based on the horrible events that we have seen over there. I am sure other parties will use them too. But how can you spin it if you want to remain in the EU? Look forward to watching that one. The public are on high alert and have this major fear at the moment. Sit back and watch May use that fear. She wants to be seen as another Thatcher like Iron Lady. But we all saw the celebrations when Thatcher died. When she was in power she took no crap. May is trying to do the exact same thing.
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    The EU are not going to make it any easier on the UK. They have made that very clear. Make an example of the first country to jump ship. If May does get back in it will be more of the same. She has said exactly what she has planned for the future. Now with all these attacks it might just help her get elected. Other parties want to remain in the EU with the open borders. All this latest stuff is playing right into her hands. Case of how tough she reacts over the coming week to what has happened over the past two weeks. The public want a swift tough reaction. I am sure she is fully aware of this. Her team will be telling her how she can cost this election. Based on the horrible events that we have seen over there. I am sure other parties will use them too. But how can you spin it if you want to remain in the EU? Look forward to watching that one. The public are on high alert and have this major fear at the moment. Sit back and watch May use that fear. She wants to be seen as another Thatcher like Iron Lady. But we all saw the celebrations when Thatcher died. When she was in power she took no crap. May is trying to do the exact same thing.
    Oh May will get elected. She would have done without Manchester and London.

    After all, who's the other option? Corbyn? Sure, he's got his heart in the right place, but the problem is, he's just not liked, and people worry that he'll be bankrupt the country.

    Any other person in the opposition and the with the shitshow of a campaign that May has done, and Labour would have won. All her campaign has been is slogans such as "Brexit means Brexit", "Strong and Stable", "Forward Together." She's also screwed up a lot during her time in power. She backtracked on a tax rise for the self-employed, having to apologize when people angrilly pointed out that it went against a manifesto pledge in 2015. She's...not quite backtracked on a policy whereby people will have to pay large amounts for there care when they're older, taken from the sale of there house after there death. A lot of people are angry about that, and rightly so. I'm angry. That will affect my parents if she gets in. They've worked there entire lives, they're reaching retirement. They're put in years of taxation payments, told that they'd get this when they came to retire, they'd get the help they needed. Now they're being told that this isn't the case.

    May may be trying to be Thatcher, but she doesn't have it in her. She can't stand up to Trump. She can't even face a debate and defend her own policies. She can't answer difficult questions such as "Why are nurses unable to afford to buy food on there monthly salaries and having to rely on food banks?".
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    Starting to get tired of the wins!

    "It is time to put Youngstown, Ohio, Detroit, Michigan, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, along with many, many other locations within our great country before Paris, France," Trump said. "It is time to make America great again."

    I believe global warming is real, but the cause of it is still under debate. That agreement was horrible IMO and a step further towards Agenda 21 and the destruction of the United States so I'm glad Trump pulled out....Likewise with NATO. Why have we continued to help Europe so they can have better medical care........education........etc?

    The cold war was declared over......time for them to provide their own defense.

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    Starting to get tired of the wins!

    "It is time to put Youngstown, Ohio, Detroit, Michigan, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, along with many, many other locations within our great country before Paris, France," Trump said. "It is time to make America great again."

    I believe global warming is real, but the cause of it is still under debate. That agreement was horrible IMO and a step further towards Agenda 21 and the destruction of the United States so I'm glad Trump pulled out....Likewise with NATO. Why have we continued to help Europe so they can have better medical care........education........etc?

    The cold war was declared over......time for them to provide their own defense.
    So if the British and other Nations pulled out of Iraq tomorrow and Afghanistan and left just the US, you would also be happy with that? Considering you seem to want to be left alone and to do your own thing. Good luck with that one.
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    So if the British and other Nations pulled out of Iraq tomorrow and Afghanistan and left just the US, you would also be happy with that? Considering you seem to want to be left alone and to do your own thing. Good luck with that one.
    IDK America doesn't need the British in Iraq. America spends $650 billion a year in military... british spend $58 billion.... we will be just fine without them.

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    I'm angry about Trump kicking Bannon out.
    Steve Bannon is the real deal.
    It may have been a smart move towards North Korea and China aggression and also silences Democrats saying he's in bed with Putin.

    I don't want America interfering with the Middle East. It's a huge mistake IMO.

    Our idiot senile old Governor pushed through a 12 cent gas tax!!!! JEBUS i hate it.
    Only 2% of the collected (already higher than any state) tax will go to road improvement the rest the crooks in Sacramento can spend as they want!!!!
    I was at Winco today and a Asian dude in front of me went on a rant about the grocery bag tax and the gas tax..........so I joined in. I said I can hardly wait to retire and move out of this shitty state..........an leave the non taxpayer illegals......he said yeah! I'm so sick of this [BEEP]!!

    Good God they are killing us!

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    IDK America doesn't need the British in Iraq. America spends $650 billion a year in military... british spend $58 billion.... we will be just fine without them.
    America would be stretched to breaking point without the help of other Countries in the many Countries they have decided to invade. It was meant to be a quick war. What are we at now? 12 or 13 years? If America is so good by itself, why has it gone on this long? With all their might you think they would have won, whatever they are trying to win by now.

    As for healthcare systems in Europe? I live in Ireland, not part of the UK, but the UK healthcare system sucks. One of the worst out there. Just as bad as the one in Ireland.

    Dare I mention Guantanamo Bay? Another US invention. Interment without trial and release date. You know the founder of ISIS was a prisoner there for 4 years. Tortured on a regular basis. I am sure when set free he didn't think ' bless them, they have set me free '. That place only served into the hands of the likes of ISIS. That gave them support and a large number of new members.

    I do believe you will get your wish, with the US been on its own. More because all the world leaders hate Trump. If he wants to go it alone they won't try and stop him. Europe is suffering more at the hands of ISIS over the actions of your great country. The same people you want away from, the British, over the past few weeks. Good to see how much you really care about them.
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    America would be stretched to breaking point without the help of other Countries in the many Countries they have decided to invade. It was meant to be a quick war. What are we at now? 12 or 13 years? If America is so good by itself, why has it gone on this long? With all their might you think they would have won, whatever they are trying to win by now.

    As for healthcare systems in Europe? I live in Ireland, not part of the UK, but the UK healthcare system sucks. One of the worst out there. Just as bad as the one in Ireland.

    Dare I mention Guantanamo Bay? Another US invention. Interment without trial and release date. You know the founder of ISIS was a prisoner there for 4 years. Tortured on a regular basis. I am sure when set free he didn't think ' bless them, they have set me free '. That place only served into the hands of the likes of ISIS. That gave them support and a large number of new members.

    I do believe you will get your wish, with the US been on its own. More because all the world leaders hate Trump. If he wants to go it alone they won't try and stop him. Europe is suffering more at the hands of ISIS over the actions of your great country. The same people you want away from, the British, over the past few weeks. Good to see how much you really care about them.
    We wouldnt be stretched to breaking point if we stayed out of other countries. We should be defending ourselves not europe.

    IDK about the middle east. we shouldn't be there.... it only has gone on so long because we care about civillian casualties. we could level the whole middle east if we needed to.

    I dont like guantanomo either... We shouldnt be letting terrorists go after getting information. I believe in capital punishment. Some people deserve it.

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    I hope trump reduces the federal government by 90% at least.
    I hate the "Education" department......that has never "educated" anything or anyone...in fact.....people are dumber and softer than any time in history!

    I hate the EPA when they constantly decide you and your children and grandchildren should pay for being successful, and they can't tell you what causes global warming, but they want you to pay for it anyway!

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    We wouldn't be stretched to breaking point if we stayed out of other countries. We should be defending ourselves not europe?

    I don't see the US army in Europe defending it at all? If anything they only use Europe for their air force bases. Without the use of such bases they would be stuck. Invading other countries was their own idea. Nobody put them up to it. Trust me many an innocent civilian life has been lost in these countries. Heck even have friendly fire. Killing your own troops. Problem in Iraq was simple. Pick a leader. Leave him there until you don't want him in power any more. Then move in to get rid of him. Put somebody new in power. Is more about greed. Natural resources. Oil to be precise. You started the whole mess off. So you are not defending Europe, you are only making things worse for Europe when they run to help you out.
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    From someone who actually lives in Britain/Europe.

    "Defending Europe". Against what, exactly? What are you defending us against? There is not a war on our doorstep.

    As for Iraq, ironically, you asked us to come along. It was not the US asking you to come join.

    As for the "less money spent on defense" issue - of course there is less money spent. The UK is significantly smaller than the US. There is less people. Less people therefore means less tax money goes into the governments coffer to pay for this defense, and there are less people in said country who are recruited as solders. You want something comparable? Yes, you spend more of your GDP on defense than we do. But the UK has met (and is paying more than) the NATO requirement of 2% (We pay 2.21.


    As for better education and healthcare...both of them are lacking at the moment. Our healthcare service is in crisis. You need an op? Get put on a 12 month waiting list, good luck getting one sooner. Call 999 for an ambulance? You may find yourself listening to hold music. If you're lucky, an ambulance will be free when you finally do get through. Gotta see a consultant? Waiting list. Ever need to go to A&E? You've probably got a 6 hour wait ahead of you. Get taken into the hospital in an ambulance? Well, this winter was problematic for that. There wasn't enough beds for the people that got taken in. People were lying in the corridors, on the chairs in the waiting rooms, and on the floors. We've got hospitals shutting left right and centre as a "cost shutting initiative" meaning that the nearest one for some people is a three hour journey. We've got nurses leaving there jobs because the pay no longer is enough to feed themselves for a month on, and moving to stacking shelves in Tesco. Trainee Doctors are moving abroad because they're not happy with the conditions they've got to deal with when they go to work. I could go on and on.

    Education? Constant rising fees, universities offering staff voluntary redundancies and asking if they'll take a paycut. Class sizes in schools are on the rise decreasing the quality of education, some schools have been found to be being radicalized by the parents on the governing board, and schools can't pay for the essentials at times, and have turned to asking parents/ex students to make a monthly contribution by direct debit (I actually get calls from my old secondary school asking if I'd like to donate.)

    I must be living in some alternative Britain if "Education and Health" has been improved by the American military that is apparently here. If anything, education and health has gotten worse over the last two decades or so.
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    From someone who actually lives in Britain/Europe.

    "Defending Europe". Against what, exactly? What are you defending us against? There is not a war on our doorstep.

    As for Iraq, ironically, you asked us to come along. It was not the US asking you to come join.

    As for the "less money spent on defense" issue - of course there is less money spent. The UK is significantly smaller than the US. There is less people. Less people therefore means less tax money goes into the governments coffer to pay for this defense, and there are less people in said country who are recruited as solders. You want something comparable? Yes, you spend more of your GDP on defense than we do. But the UK has met (and is paying more than) the NATO requirement of 2% (We pay 2.21.


    As for better education and healthcare...both of them are lacking at the moment. Our healthcare service is in crisis. You need an op? Get put on a 12 month waiting list, good luck getting one sooner. Call 999 for an ambulance? You may find yourself listening to hold music. If you're lucky, an ambulance will be free when you finally do get through. Gotta see a consultant? Waiting list. Ever need to go to A&E? You've probably got a 6 hour wait ahead of you. Get taken into the hospital in an ambulance? Well, this winter was problematic for that. There wasn't enough beds for the people that got taken in. People were lying in the corridors, on the chairs in the waiting rooms, and on the floors. We've got hospitals shutting left right and centre as a "cost shutting initiative" meaning that the nearest one for some people is a three hour journey. We've got nurses leaving there jobs because the pay no longer is enough to feed themselves for a month on, and moving to stacking shelves in Tesco. Trainee Doctors are moving abroad because they're not happy with the conditions they've got to deal with when they go to work. I could go on and on.

    Education? Constant rising fees, universities offering staff voluntary redundancies and asking if they'll take a paycut. Class sizes in schools are on the rise decreasing the quality of education, some schools have been found to be being radicalized by the parents on the governing board, and schools can't pay for the essentials at times, and have turned to asking parents/ex students to make a monthly contribution by direct debit (I actually get calls from my old secondary school asking if I'd like to donate.)

    I must be living in some alternative Britain if "Education and Health" has been improved by the American military that is apparently here. If anything, education and health has gotten worse over the last two decades or so.
    Thats my point. Lots of bases in europe are from the cold war era.....cold war is over. America should focus on itself, not on NATO. Your graph shows most of europe doesnt even meet their agreed to 2%.....but we have to pay for them. SAD!

    I dont have health insurance. I work two jobs 30 hours each both part time.... no benefits because each is part time. Last time I went to a hospital was a 14 hour wait just to see a nurse....it costs over $2000 just to call an ambulance..i work so hard but cant afford that. THATS NOT EVEN COST OF TREATMENT....JUST THE AMBULANCE RIDE! If I ever get badly hurt i will just die....never be able to afford any kind of major treatment.

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