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    Just realised Tori Amos lives in Cornwall. That's totally a place she would live xD I mean she has that British baroque pop vibe.

    I think she should collab with Patrick Wolf now that he's making music again because he said in a recent interview that he'd recently learnt to drive and was listening to a bunch of her albums while driving.

    He has a lot of songs referencing Cornwall and I think has Cornish roots (also Irish.)







    The end of this track is so good it's actually a different track or part of it called The Towans:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHftABiCnKI

    Its a wild stretch of land
    Such a sad place to be
    When the night comes heavy down
    And the sands turn to sea

    Many saints have lost their love
    Many a pilgrim dies unseen
    In that wild stretch of land
    In that fire to be free


    I mean some of their music is very similar I think he deviates more when he gets into the folktronica kind of area of music but I'm not familiar with most of her music just a handful of her songs so I don't know if she has anything like that:



    And I guess collabing with someone who is very similar might not be that interesting but anyway.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    The logic here is just ridiculous. If you want to sell your AI product sell your AI product but it's definitely not going to lead to higher rates of reproduction or trad values lol:

    Ai Women Are Women™. SeX/acc.
    More dangerous than a bear and proud.
    edit: just realised not accelerationists again lmfao:



    The bear thing in your bio does make you sound like you're motivated by spite.

    Women, when we choose to be in the woods with the ai girlfriend instead of you, you need to understand why men would choose ai.

    I'm more dangerous than a bear and proud.
    Oh no he is OK.

    If man declared war on bears in 2 weeks they’d be extinct.
    OK the bear thing was dumb but... Are these guys actually sexually threatened by bears now?

    That's funny.

    Penguins I could understand.

    Bugs Bunny I could understand xD (so many directions to take this joke but the penguin thing was because they supposedly are pretty dedicated dads unlike bears. Also the penguins of Madagascar fanart Strange Aeons was talking about in her tumblr sexymen video.)

    Pokemon I could understand- OK

    This is def age restricted because she was smoking weed in the video (oh no she wasn't I forgot edibles,) smash or pass pokemon edition lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_rk9M9z8s

    ^ Lol this video is actually hilarious I forgot how funny it was.

    The relationship between women and men is broken. The data shows that. Everyone knows it. The top 20% in the gene pool don't care. Their not caring is genetic warfare. All social action taken against Orifice, all protest, be it in the form of tweet or article or legislation will be gene warfare. Everything comes down to reproduction, and we're going to take non-reproductive sex with human women off the table as a commodity. It's gone. Can't trade money for it. Can't trade a meal for it. You could spend hours contemplating the consequences of that. Good, bad. It's going to end crime. It's going to wipe out job functions. But why? Because sex is about reproduction and everything breaks when you break that. Our roles don't make sense. Our institutions don't make sense. Nothing makes sense. When men stop seeking non-reproductive sex from human women, it's going to lead to an increase in reproductive sex. And it's going to save the world.
    Edit: It kind of seems like a more lucid version of Nick Land if Nick Land was doing delusional optimism instead of horror. Like I can imagine this set to some kind of cyberpunk themed music with a robotic voice or something. And I guess that makes sense because it's an /acc account.



    Meltdown has a place for you as a schizophrenic HIV+ transsexual chinese-latino stim-addicted LA hooker with implanted mirrorshades and a bad attitude. Blitzed on a polydrug mix of K-nova, synthetic serotonin, and female orgasm analogs, you have just iced three Turing cops with a highly cinematic 9mm automatic.

    "The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.

    [...]

    Neo-China arrives from the future.


    It's written in the same tone of voice you know what I mean?

    This guy is like a boring reactionary now lol.

    "Reactionary Nick Land arrives from the future. Sex is about reproduction we're going to end crime and also buy my sex robot."

    It's not going to end crime because the men who engage in crime are mostly trying to get money and/or boost their status in a broken hierarchy or they have other sadistic impulses. This doesn't offer a compelling outlet or competition for someone who is antisocial. Also the female crime rate has been increasing for decades.

    What an absurd thing to say lol.

    I'm not even against AI sex bots or whatever myself but what kind of utopianist bs is that lol?

    Someone else said this:

    Sexbots and virtual waifus will lower female sexual market value, which means woman will need to work on themselves and what they bring to the table other than the idea of sex for being the main reason why the man wants a relationship with them. This will mean more trad values.
    I don't know if this is the logic he's using but I highly doubt that outcome will happen lol.

    Women can just get AI partners and sex bots themselves + have relationships with other women. It's ridiculous to think the outcome of this is going to be increased trad values or an increase in reproduction.

    I think it will actually make these guys even less likely to reproduce without surrogacy or artificial wombs because women will start going to sperm banks and they'll all just select like the top rated guys in terms of their career, education background, appearence and so on. So it will be the same as now besides maybe even less guys getting into relationships with real women because the path of least residence for women is probably to find a girlfriend and go to a sperm bank - actually it's to not have kids or relationships at all which a bunch of women are already doing but yeah after that either raise the kid alone or with a woman.

    In a world where that technology didn't exist and they still needed to have sex with a guy to get pregnant maybe that would make more sense but they don't so you can't gatekeep anything unless you get all men to stop donating sperm and to not have sex with women. But you would have to do that first.

    I mean if by traditional values you mean women will be outcompeted for online sex work sure quite possibly but aside from that nothing is going to change in the way you think.

    Once this is perfected, almost no modern women are going to be able to compete. They'll have to learn how to actually provide value to a man and not just be selfish and hateful.
    It's not going to happen.

    It's just so dumb though lol because everyone in this debate is ignoring that you can also use technology to get an AI boyfriend for some reason and then how is it a threat?

    My wife brings a lot to the table.
    More than 99% of women.

    You can't compete. A talking sex box is not a replacement for women like her, who aim to give as much as they receive, it's a replacement for women like you.
    She's going to divorce him eventually (statistically and considering his personality type being very disagreeable it's almost certain - I've looked into the research of what kind of personalities stay in relationships long term and it's not him,) and he's going to be insufferable about it.

    Gender role conflict was related to low marital satisfaction and those who had feminine and androgynous gender roles reported more marital satisfaction. Some of the feminine characteristics, which are a combination of complex behavioral and emotional interactions, can enhance the relationships. These results can be used in marital counseling and therapy.
    Neuroticism, in particular, seems the key Big Five trait related to low relationship satisfaction and a higher likelihood of getting divorced, whereas high agreeableness and conscientiousness are related to marital stability.
    Women want men to want them even if the woman does not want the man. When all of the attention dries up, and you're all fighting over 2% of the male population, you'll be crying for simp attention but you won't get it.
    No. That’s a cope. The fatal flaw of feminism is the belief you can rewrite millions of years of psychological evolution because you read some books. Your mental health requires the male gaze. This technology will deny you that.
    This really only applies to extroverted exhibitionists.

    This guy is pretty funny lol:

    That is the nature of being a man. We accept that. You should accept your nature as well. Find someone to reproduce with and extract their resources.
    If men can fulfill their biological needs in a cheaper, less toxic and codependent way, they will flourish with the surpluses
    'Find someone and extract their resources.' Lol.

    Most of men's energy and resources are wasted on the weaker end of this sexual power structure. This removes the biological power imbalance. Despite what your feminist books say, men and women are not equal. Sexual liberation will empower weak men. It will destroy weak women.
    Hm I'm getting the sense here from a bunch of people that they think that this will free up men to do something else meaningful but if you're not doing anything now you won't start to do anything meaningful when you have a sex robot. This is sort of like people who argue that without work people will be more creatively productive but that's not how it works for a lot of people who are already in that situation so it's not that simple.

    I think the most depressing part of this is that somehow they're not aware of just how much most people can adjust to having essentially nothing. I mean that guy (the one who has som AI product not the funny guy,) is married so wtf does he know. Especially if they start off that way which in this hypothetical future they will. They'll adjust to not having anything.

    They're going to grow up creating fanfiction and playing The Sims etc and maybe some will find religion again instead of competing for male attention. Like every nerd in the 2000s and woman in a convent lol.

    Oh lol he actually brought up witch covens:

    That response is the future of single, childless women. [...] You can start a witch covenant. Celibate girl boss witches.
    That sounds fun though. Aellas idea too but only if she's having sex with women other wise I've lost interest:

    why do u need a man to approve of your lifestyle if you can use the money u get from whoring to pay nannies and co-parent with a bunch of your female friends? Get some great sperm, embryo select some badasses, live with other slutty ladies in a wealthy commune, it's the dream

    sometimes internet ppl say i'll never find a man to commit to me cause i'm promiscuous. Even *if* this were true, men are giving me resources anyway, and I can cleverly use this to have kids with a much higher quality of life than if I were a housewife. win win?
    Also the porn joker thread was kinda hot:

    society is slowly turning me into the porn joker

    the harder u try to shame me the more people i bang

    yea watch me go, in my own house bangin ppl i enjoy banging. watch me contribute to the downfall of society. having a great time, a week-long afterglow and affection for my sex partners. by talking about the things i enjoy publicly and without shame im gonna make rome burn

    maybe a society that can be sent into angry paroxysms by the fact that i dare to live without shame is a society that *should* burn

    maybe i *should* be a threat to your way of life and norms and everything you love. maybe your wives should be happier than they are, maybe they should be sluts too. maybe seeing me having a great time will make them envious. maybe you should have been better at fucking her.
    So many classics.

    I usually prefer this fantasy the other way around but Aella almost makes me want to be the conservative wife...

    Would I actually be into it? I don't know it's just a hot concept in general. I'm attracted to concepts.

    Someone make a film about this not a porn film like a decent quality film or a book. I'm certain it exists already I'm just lazy. Who do I want to star in the film also? Hmm... A̶b̶b̶y̶ S̶h̶a̶p̶i̶r̶o̶

    Oh right but I was talking about the heterosexuals.

    I don't think women should freak out about this though in the way they are on twitter responding to him because it's an interesting experiment from a scientific pov lol and as he said he's going to end crime. Let the man try I guess.

    And you don't need people who think like this in the first place.



    Lol no but maybe.

    I'm kind of mad that I'm never going to be able to hear this mashup live. Imagine how epic that would have been:

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Funny seeing comments like this now:

    Oh my god if PT ever do a reunion tour I'm gonna buy a ticket for each city in the UK and drive to every one I don't give a fuck.
    I would start a war in my country and go to UK as a refugee and attend every concert in every city.
    That's a original reason for wanting to come to the UK as a refugee I will say.

    Well they did reunite for concerts in London and Manchester in the UK in 2022 and 2023. But in general Steven does solo concerts mostly in London I think when it comes to the UK (but I'm not really paying attention to other stuff since London is most convinient/closest to me anyway.) I went to see Porcupine Tree in Manchester though because I missed the London concert. But they also played in other countries lol. It's not like they ever only played in the UK. Also Steven Wilson tours in other places and he sometimes plays Porcupine Tree trakcs with his live band well always actually I think.

    I think it's been a while since he did a solo tour now. When was his last concert besides the Porcupine Tree ones... I mean I think some stuff was cancelled because of covid but I wasn't paying close attention. Cause at one time I was going to a bunch of them and it seemed to be pretty regular and kind of took that for granted. I really want to see his new solo album live though.

    Wtf when did this happen?

    Sep 27, 2023

    The Harmony Codex Listening Session + Steven Wilson Live Set
    I didn't even hear about this? Was this like a proper concert or? I need to pay closer attention.

    Following the playback of the entire 65-minute album over EartH’s amazing immersive sound system, Steven will play a unique 30-minute solo live set of music from the album, also in spatial audio.

    EartH is equipped with L-Acoustics L-ISA spatial audio technology, placing the audience in a hemisphere of sound. The 17.1.8 system includes five frontal loudspeaker arrays, 12 surrounds, 8 overheads and 4 flown subwoofers, 69 speakers in total.
    It looks like some kind of niche small event and not a typical concert.

    Lol why is it listed as YouTube kids? Only has 91 views:



    I shouldn't really watch this though I am because it's like spoilers.

    Oh this is a better quality recording from this event awesome (actually not really I thought it was lol):



    Also it looks like in 2021 he played a bunch of shows in the UK but one date was cancelled in Germany. Yeah just the odd random concert here and there dates in 2020 and 2019.

    Looking I'm kind of glad I live in the UK now lol he definitely does more concerts here.

    I saw this post on Tumblr:

    I think now that I’ve gotten older and my musical tastes have shifted I can say with absolute confidence that for me personally Steven is at his peak when hes at his darkest eg. in absentia, the incident, grace for drowning

    the juxtaposition of his very sweet singing voice and the absolutely heinous subject matter is just so striking I know the incident isn't talked about as much but Bonnie the cat is one of the most heinous songs ever written in the best way

    And I understand Steven himself wants to try new things and good in him for doing so but I don't think for me personally he'll never give me the sheer viscera or something like raider ii again
    And I could totally see where they're coming from RE: To The Bone and The Future Bites but The Harmony Codex is so amazing and like the perfect execution I think of what he's been sort of doing for the last couple of albums imo. Definitely his best electronic work so far.

    Tbf their Tumblr post was about a month before that album was released lol.

    Also though I really like the psychedelic Porcupine Tree stuff now.

    And I don't know how becuase it's not been very long and nothing materially has changed but Fadeaway makes me nostalgic now atm:



    This sounds like something kind of psychedelic mixed with something rejected from the Hellraiser sountrack lol which I love (that sounds almost like an insult but tbf Coil's Hellraiser soundtrack was rejected later on and Coil are great):



    Raider II is an amazing track though especially live. I haven't seen it live in person though so far. It's a really long track so seems unlikely I'll get to hear that as time goes on. ._. I got into his music after The Raven That Refused To Sing was released so the first concert I went to was during that era too and wasn't played then.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    This is the same Lauren Southern who would show up to troll people (liberals and trans activists mostly,) at protests, once changed her legal gender to male to prove how easy it was in Canada, was doing some weird stuff with migrant boats I can't remember, came to my hometown to hand out flyers saying Alah is gay and then got banned from the UK not long after?






    I didn't realise she was this naive and she was pretty attractive too so I feel like she could have done better. Even now this situation is so bizarre since I haven't really paid attention to her for years that I'm wondering if this is just some 'well I guess I'll grift off the left instead now' arc.

    Yeah I've seen so many people do this and just flip flop that I actually can't trust people.

    But yeah I'd be pretty OK with being single over that.

    Some research points to men with authoritarian right wing beliefs having 24/7 power fantasies as a fetish and various things like that. Now, obviously that won't apply in every case, but you have to be careful I think. It's not exactly hard to see them constantly posting abusive crap all over social media. I guess some people don't pay as much attention though and they probably act differently before they get into relationships too.

    Actually seems like they got married really quickly after barely knowing each other and she was 22 (pretty young,) and she then moved to another country. None of this is a brilliant idea honestly though they're not the only people who have done this sort of thing. Definitely a huge risk.

    I mean I thought she was a huge asshole really back in the day and I guess there's always a part of me that gets surprised when people like that end up being abused in relationships even though that doesn't make sense I sort of imagine they're more cynical and dominant etc. Like how I tend to assume malicious people are more intelligent than they often are.

    This is where its from, i suspect he didn't link it because the writer basically runs defence for the brainrot that led to this and even gives an anti trans jab
    Oh it's Mary Harrington who wrote the article.

    yeah, her telling people about southern has some worth i guess, but she's a queer-hating, both-sideing pos:

    "For where I lost my twenties to commune life and niche sexualities, she left media at 22 to embrace a socially conservative template for women..."
    As one redditor put it lol:

    I also admire ex-lesbian commune head of marketing working class trad British women.
    Since a bunch of Americans also seem deluded into thinking she's working class which is still just LOL. She's not even lower middle class. Transparently upper middle class.

    Me being on the internet: literally disagreeing with everyone about something always.

    So, in 2019, she announced that she was leaving media and activism altogether. As Southern tells it, she was trying sincerely to put into practice the ideology she'd promoted in her videos. "I believed I had a certain role in my relationship," she told me. "And it was to be the more submissive one that supports my husband's dreams."
    So she just ignored that that's obviously incompatible with her personality type considering what she spent her career/life doing up until that point?

    She never was a submissive person...

    I found some other article that said this but didn't expand on it:

    Southern is a lot of things. She is a self-published author who has been banned by Patreon and GoFundMe; she is someone who the Southern Poverty Law Center refers to as Canada's alt-right dog whistler. She pines for the Crusades, wants to "cure" Muslims of their hatred of the West, and at one point was a tradwife. Southern left the abusive world of tradwifedom and has since publicly condemned that lifestyle. Here's what we know about the ultra-conservative influencer's divorce.
    Trying to find more... Different article:

    Southern goes on to endorse the Crusades, writing, "Like sword-wielding versions of Twisted Sister, Christendom declared 'We're not gonna take it anymore,'" and "The Crusaders did absolutely nothing wrong," before concluding, "I'm going to be hoisting the flag and saying 'Deus Vult.'" [Again, italics hers.] "Deus Vult," or "God Wills," was the battle cry of the First Crusade, declared by Pope Urban II, and another dog whistle for the extremist right, where it?s used as a rallying cry against Islam.

    In 2017, Southern began focusing her attention beyond Canada?s borders. She appeared at the violent UC Berkeley racist rally in mid-April wearing an Army surplus helmet with a large "MAGA" sticker plastered across it, protected by a contingent of Proud Boys. She rallied the white nationalist troops, declaring, "If I don?t show up here, I?ll tell antifa right now, another patriot will show up in my place," and "We will win the war for Berkeley."

    In May, Southern joined a group of European members of Generation Identitaire (Generation Identity), a far-right anti-immigration group, who'd chartered a ship in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Italy, where she live-streamed their group shooting flares at a search and rescue ship called the Aquarius, operated by SOS Mediterranee with support from Medicins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders). SOS Mediterranee is a European charity that rescues people in distress in the Mediterranean, including stranded refugees.

    "So guys, if the politicians won't stop the boats, we?ll stop the boats," Southern says in her livestream. The Italian Coast Guard detained Southern and her allies for a brief time before releasing them, but Generation Identitaire had the video it needed to start a crowdfunding campaign for its "Defend Europe" initiative.
    She's very into guns as well.

    In general I find the tension between traditionalism and non-conformity among dissident right and right wing libertarian people interesting. Like her, Camille Paglia, Jordan Peterson, Bronze Age Pervert, Myron Gaines, Andrew Tate etc.

    And of course it begs the question why would someone looking for a feminine traditional woman marry her? And why did she feel the need to force herself into that box? The perception that there is no alternative? Some kind of heterosexual realism? Like capitalist realism?

    Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? is a 2009 book by British philosopher Mark Fisher. It explores Fisher's concept of "capitalist realism", which he describes as "the widespread sense that not only is capitalism the only viable political and economic system, but also that it is now impossible even to imagine a coherent alternative to it."[1]

    Things aren't quite that bad with gender. There really is a black hole economically speaking.

    When did she say this I just found this on wikiquotes lol. What a rabbit hole:

    "This is what's hard: I know I'm legally a man, but I'm also male-minded, despite having the female appearance." - Lauren Southern

    Did she say this? It seems like something someone made up. I can't believe all things considered she would say this. Is it a joke? Why is there no context?

    It's a bit of an Alan Moore moment if true though.





    I personally think it's bs though until I find the source. It seems like something that she'd either say as a joke because of the thing she did in that video years ago or just not true.

    Tomboy fascism 😂

    Lol wth. Then again every group can have fascist tendencies femboys, hippy woo conspirituality women, hypermasculine men. Failed artists. (Hitler.)

    Wonder if this has something to do with how tomboys and masculine trans men historically were used to promote nationalism and war? Because that's always been weird.

    Tomboys are the most powerful race.

    They are afraid.

    And they should be.
    Tbf Lauren you actually were part of the far right though. 😂

    It's kind of fascinating. I have been exploring these dynamics and contradictions for years now. The political left has many contradictions too of course.

    If some people believed tomboys would lose what was thought to be women's most important power--procreation--others believed tomboyism would strengthen that power; tomboys would grow up to be the healthiest and most attractive women, the most suited to reproduce. Thus, some people began to believe that daughters should be treated, in many ways, like sons.

    And yet, even as raising girls as tomboys was pitched as the solution to the problem of a declining birth rate among white people, tomboys were often depicted as dark-haired and tanned. They were seen not only as future wonderful wives, mothers, and women, but as the heroic antidote to their opposite: feminine, vain, and indulgent girly-girls. Often, they were pitted against each other in literature, the fair-skinned and fair-haired ladylike girly-girl and the raven-haired unladylike tomboy with sun-darkened skin. That is, they were racialized, their behaviors explained and excused by their color.

    Tomboys took on some stereotypes affixed by whites to people of color, including African-Americans and Native Americans; its portrayal was a kind of cultural appropriation. As Sentilles wrote, tomboys could "play Indian without becoming Indian." Some books even claimed that the name Pocahontas translated into the word "tomboy" (some recent translations posit that it meant "mischievous one").
    Somehow this is not brought up in any of these articles I looked up but there was also Rotha Lintorn-Orman in the UK who I think was the founder of the first fascist movement in the UK actually:

    Rotha Beryl Lintorn Lintorn-Orman (7 February 1895 ? 10 March 1935) was the founder of the British Fascisti, the first avowedly fascist movement to appear in British politics.
    Rotha Orman, with her friend Nesta Maude, was among the few girls who showed up at the 1909 Crystal Palace Scout Rally wanting to be Scouts[3] which led to the foundation of the Girl Guides. In 1908 they had registered as a Scout troop, using their initials rather than forenames.[4] In 1911 she was awarded one of the first of the Girl Guides' Silver Fish Awards.[5]

    In the First World War, Lintorn-Orman served as a member of the Women's Volunteer Reserve and with the Scottish Women's Hospital Corps.[6] She contributed to the relief efforts at the Great Thessaloniki Fire of 1917[7] but invalided home with malaria. In 1918 she became head of the British Red Cross Motor School to train drivers in the battlefield.[8]
    Following Lintorn-Orman's war service, she placed an advertisement in the right-wing journal The Patriot seeking anti-communists.[9] This led to the foundation of the British Fascisti (later the British Fascists) in 1923 as a response to the growing strength of the Labour Party, a source of great anxiety for the virulently anti-Communist Lintorn-Orman.[10] She felt Labour was too prone to advocating class conflict and internationalism, two of her pet hates.[11]

    Lintorn-Orman was dependent on alcohol and drugs,[18] and rumours about her sexual orientation began to damage her reputation. Eventually her mother stopped funding her after hearing lurid tales of drink, drugs and orgies.[19] Lintorn-Orman was taken ill in 1933 and was sidelined from the British Fascists, as effective control passed to Mrs D. G. Harnett, who sought to breathe new life into the group by seeking to ally it with Ulster loyalism.[20]

    Lintorn-Orman died of an alcohol-related illness at the age of 40 on 10 March 1935 at Santa Br?gida, Las Palmas, in the Canary Islands. By then her organisation was all but defunct. She was buried at the English Cemetery in Las Palmas.
    They're writing articles about facist tomboys and describing all this kind of vague stuff while not mentioning an actual fascist non-conforming woman.

    And you see this kind of weird [BEEP] again now like the [BEEP] saleswoman with the weird livejournal erotic fanart. In her case it's very much confirmed and I think she was also doing meth.

    Tangentially related:



    I don't agree with once again the absolutism of what he's saying but I think a lot of them are very repressed and try to force themselves into some box that doesn't work with their personality type.

    Instead, between the lockdown claustrophobia and her husband's behaviour, she began to revise her initial willingness to leave public life. In part, she told me, she hoped it would win back his love. "He was so much kinder, sweeter and more pursuant of me when I was this 'boss babe' travelling the world working. It seemed like becoming a mother made him lose respect for me. It was shocking to me, again, because the traditional view preached the opposite -- that men love you more when you stop working and become a wife and mother." In her experience, though, this was "very much not the case". So, a year after retiring to embrace traditionalist domestic life on the Right-wing model, she posted her comeback video, and began making sporadic media appearances.
    I think some of these guys have this kind of conquest thing in mind. Then they get bored. And also since you married him from his pov he doesn't have to pretend to not be an abusive asshole anymore.

    Ellen (not her real name), 35, is another previously married erstwhile "trad" who is now in Southern's network. She describes how the men who self-select into these communities are often "wayward, antisocial, disagreeable and very, very misogynistic",
    You don't say.

    I'm being kind of a dick but my entire experience online at this point is just guys with this personality combination - which I hate btw - jumping out from everywhere so I'm honestly confused by anyone who doesn't want that ending up in this situation at this stage but I guess it was a few years back and she was pretty married to antifeminism clearly to a point that meant even throwing out self preservation.

    There's something kind of weirdly defensive about so many trad wives online (the actual kind of # movement that is,) like they seem motivated by a desire to go after liberal women and don't seem... There's something off there. It goes both ways too obviously. Straight people really aren't OK (tm). Not in every case but they're very combatative on average and it doesn't surprise me that the whole thing isn't working for a lot of them.

    I could be wrong but she seems happy:





    None of her content involves putting down other types of women.

    She is also a lesbian and married to a woman but I don't think that should be essential ideologically speaking.

    If heterosexuality is a culture, and culture is mutable, that means there's hope. Even today, the idea persists that straight culture is "natural," whatever that means. The criteria Susan Sontag set out in "Notes on 'Camp,'" however, like artifice and exaggeration, can be just as neatly applied to the straight world. Wedding receptions, baby showers, and bachelor parties are all good examples.
    Like the first woman she talks about in this video why lol?:



    I basically don't watch adverts now and when I do I don't but this caught my attention lol.



    Unironically cottagecore lesbians are waaaaay ahead of the conservative right on the tradwife game
    I think you may be right.





    What does this have to do with m&ms ? I never understood ?These comercials have nothing to do with the product they're selling .
    This commercial is beyond stupid lmao. What does anything that happens in this have to do with the product it advertises Also wow he said feet instead of face hahahahah comedy genius!!
    I feel like it's marketed at me somehow.

    What's that m&m advert? Give the guys with short hair and full body tattoos a chance because they might be plant guys with small feet and I can steal their shoes?

    But I really like long hair </3

    I'm extracting resources (shoes.)



    No my feet are like size 5 in women's UK size that's 7 in the US? That's like 4 sizes below the average men's size lol. I don't like the idea of wearing other people's shoes anyway.

    Anyone know what brand of shoes he has? I want to get a pair. LOL.
    It is more of a shoe advert lol. Those aren't quite my thing though I like these ones:





    These shoes are like over 100 pounds though so I can't buy them.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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