Random Thought of the Day

[Doseone]

If I could be any animal which would it be? The human soul because there's almost no... half-life

[Nyctophilia]

People lose their Humanity every day. And many people don't care (that's why the subreddit voidpunk exists for example.) I'm ambivalent myself about whether it matters. The people who argue the most forcefully for strict objective categorisation that you can't deviate from are the quickest to chuck people out of the Human species category when it suits them.

Lol I just clicked on this video and the comments:

If you're as cute as she is, you could pretty much say anything and I'd agree with it.

she is saying good things, so true, but many cute people can be very devilish, or can be acting in such a way that is supporting their own interests. once a i talk to dybbuk at the stream, beautiful woman, but alas, a demon! she says good man buys a woman an apartment, and i think this is so true, and so on, but then aha! she disappears! not saying only woman can be dybbuk, a dybbuk is a soul with no vessel, non-binary in a western sense, i think that is the word you could use to describe that.

In Jewish mythology, a dybbuk (/ˈdɪbək/; Yiddish: דיבוק, from the Hebrew verb דָּבַק‎ dāḇaq meaning 'adhere' or 'cling') is a malicious possessing spirit believed to be the dislocated soul of a dead person.[1] It supposedly leaves the host body once it has accomplished its goal, sometimes after being exorcised.[2][3][4]

Traditionally, dybbuks tended to be male spirits who possessed women on the eve of their weddings, typically in a sexual fashion by entering the women through their vaginas, which is seen in Ansky's play.[9]

In psychological literature, the dybbuk has been described as a hysterical syndrome.[10]

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I'll just pretend it's his terrible English lol. People love to do this though:

Christian minister and failed Republican politician E.W. Jackson made a stunningly stupid claim on his radio show this week, saying those who use the gender nonconforming "they/them" pronouns are doing so because they are possessed by multiple demons. "This whole thing of going to a plural pronoun," Jackson said, "to me, it is a subconscious spiritual admission of demon possession by multiple demons." "The only single individual I'm familiar with who spoke from the plural pronoun was Legion," he added, referencing the Biblical story where Jesus cast demons out of the man. "Think about that: You're not to be referred to by the single 'he' or 'she' but the plural pronoun 'they.' Who is the 'they' in there? We know who the 'they' in there is: a bunch of devils," he concluded.

Florida Republican apologizes for anti-transgender 'demons' and 'mutants' comments

Transgender people and allies were at the public hearing on Monday to share their stories in opposition to the bill when Barnaby made his comments: "I'm looking at society today and it's like I'm watching an X-Men movie it's like we have mutants living among us on planet Earth," Barnaby said.

He later went on, "I'm not afraid to address the dysphoria or the dysfunction. The Lord rebuke you, Satan, and all of your demons and all of your imps will come and parade before us. That's right I called you demons and imps who come and parade before us and pretend that you are part of this world."

Oh yeah I liked Legion in the Marvel show. Not all devils also some angels. I'm an anti-villain or an anti-hero. I'm not famous enough for history to ever decide which.

Anyway no more X-Men for Republican politicians (failed or otherwise.) Needs to take some notes about delivery he fucked up his material lol:



Or at least be like these guys fucking hilarious. Get on their level (this was actual homophobia + transphobia not intended to be comedy lol but it's just so ridiculous and he's also terrible at metaphor just keeps picking up phallic vegetables):



That second guy I quoted is British and a Floridian. I will not be lectured about evil or chaos by you sir. Also on behalf of the UK I'm sorry Florida. God knows you had enough problems with Florida Man.

Later in the hearing, he apologized for his comments.

"I would like to apologize to the trans community for referring to you as demons," he said.

I don't see the point in apologising. He obviously still believes it so what's the point?

After this I was suggested a video about Gia Carangi who I hadn't heard of before and I only clicked because the thumbnail intrigued me. I'm not posting the video because she's obviously on drugs and it's pretty sad.

Some of the comments were like this:

When I discovered Gia at 10 years old I immediately fell in love. I did a research project on her in High School. I didn?t have many [BEEP] role models and Gia was openly interested in women from the age of 13. I once had a girlfriend named Hilary who was also obsessed with Gia. We both found her grave in bucks county back in 2008 and left yellow roses (Gia?s favorite) Gia also became an addict and so did I. Now I?m almost 10 years sober off drugs and alcohol and in school for film. As a filmmaker and a [BEEP] sober person, through my creativity and work in the recovery community I hope to honor her and Hilary?s memory (unfortunately, she passed at age 37 in Dec 2021)

What exactly do you mean when you say queen, you mean you're a lesbian? And all this isn't really something to bragging about...its very sad

I think you meant "Queer" not "Queen". Yes, Queer. I am sending you love and light. i hope you can learn to accept others as I accept you.

I accept people just fine. I'll be honest, I don't have a problem with being gay, it's when the person doesn't know who they are and go back n forth, today I'm a girl tomorrow a guy. Or I'm neither nor, I want to be labeled as they or them. That....is where it gets ridiculous!

So I started reading about Gia and noticed some things besides how tragic her life was and also don't start doing heroin ever but that's been known:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070325...s.asp?AID=2076

At school, she fell in with the Bowie kids - a disparate bunch of fans as obsessive as herself about the star, whose defiantly weird, high-glam style they emulated. For Gia, though, it wasn't just the platform shoes and provocative gear that attracted her, but Bowie's ambiguous gender play and outspoken bisexuality. 'Gia was the purest lesbian I ever met', a friend from that time later told Gia's biographer, Stephen Fried. 'It was the clearest thing about her. She was sending girls flowers when she was 13, and they'd fall for her whether they were gay or not'. Another pal described her tomboy persona and relaxed openness about her sexuality as reminiscent of the character Cay in the 1986 film Desert Hearts.

Gia and her bi-try Bowie-mad friends began to hang out in Philadelphia's gay clubs and bars, but though she was beginning to settle into her lesbian identity, Gia wasn't about to take up the accepted lesbian style.

'(Her) sophisticated androgyny led her to a new style of dressing', writes Fried. 'She had recently jettisoned her glitter clothes for a wardrobe of Army fatigues and men's pleated slacks, worn with a t-shirt or men's Oxford cloth shirt and Army or cowboy boots. And she never wore make-up, unlike all of the women, and many of the men she knew. It was a fashion statement that nobody in Philadelphia ? man, woman, straight or gay - had even thought of making'.

https://www.queerbible.com/queerbibl...y-hannah-hanra

Like many lesbians, Gia hung out at gay clubs, slightly in denial and unwilling to accept her own queerness, she "did not want to take up the accepted lesbian style".

This keeps popping up.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2008/...ing-of-beauty/

IN HER TEENS, GIA CARANGI BECAME A BOWIE KID, A species pretty common to Philadelphia in the early 1970s. Singer-songwriter David Bowie had made two unheralded rock albums in 1969, but reached a mass audience only after reinventing himself as an androgynous rock'n'roll theater piece several years later. Rolling Stone assessed his career as almost single-handedly "redefining rebellion as entertainment, and entertainment as subversion."

Being a Bowie kid meant outrageous hair styles and hair colors, outrageous glitter makeup, outrageous posing. It also meant, for some kids, delving into the mysteries of sexual confusion; Bowie and his genderbending naturally attracted many teenagers curious about alternative sexual lifestyles.

Kathleen and Henry Sperr were convinced that David Bowie was at the root of Gia's rebellion and sexual confusion. "She got involved with rock concerts," Henry Sperr explains, "and a bunch of people who went to rock concerts. She got a Bowie haircut and that changed her personality completely. She seemed like a sweet young little kid before, and then afterward ? "

Afterward Gia emerged as a rebellious young woman who seemed as alienated from the Sperrs as David Bowie himself might have been. Like so many teenagers of her generation, Gia's attitude toward life, and especially toward her family, was reflected in the music of her favorite pop idols-the androgynous Bowie and the rebellious Rolling Stones.

Because she was convinced it was Bowie changing Gia, Kathleen decided to try to understand Bowie herself by attending his concerts with her daughter. "I learned to appreciate Bowie as a talent," she recalls, "and Gia was tickled to death. And her friends ? well, I always got along great with her friends. They thought I was really neat because I really tried to understand them."

"The mother would come to concerts," a friend of Gia's recalls. "It was so ridiculous. Gia would be high and the mother would be there thinking she was protecting her daughter. If her mother had been a little more accepting of her then, maybe Gia wouldn't have had to rebel so far."

During that time there was perhaps only one facet of Gia Carangi's life with which she seemed comfortable: her homosexuality. "She was the purest lesbian I ever met," recalls another friend. "It was the clearest thing about her. And she was very aggressive about it -- she was sending other girls flowers and poems when she was 14 years old."

It was one such advance that brought Gia's lesbianism to her mother's attention. In her daughter's room, Kathleen found a letter she had written to another girl, who had clearly spurned her. When confronted, Gia told her mother she was gay. Her mother did not believe it and, in fact, does not believe it to this day. "Gia led the gay lifestyle," she concedes, "but in her heart, I don?t think she was gay. She said she was, and clearly all her friends were gay, but I would not believe it. She probably hid behind being gay. If you were gay you didn't have to deal with a man-woman relationship. If you were gay you didn't have to deal with being like everyone else and being normal." It was with this attitude that Kathleen dragged Gia to a counselor for the better part of a year. The therapy was finally discontinued when all concerned realized that Gia was making up stories to tell the counselor.

"She always seemed a little insecure -- she was quiet, introverted, shy. Her home life seemed very hard for her. And she had a way of looking at you at certain times -- this look -- it was the face of a little girl. She learned how to drop it for the camera, but sometimes I would still see it."

^ There's a lot of this sort of thing (but tbf this was coming from a woman she was dating who was 21..):

"She was not a typical 15-year-old," Beverly recalls. "There was always a real child in her. She loved to wrestle, she was very mischievous and had all this energy. But there was also something sad about her. It wasn't really blatant --she was always in a good mood -- but it was there."

Gia and Sharon represented something of a challenge to the lesbian scene of the day, which was still very stereotypically "butch" and "femme," with one very masculine partner and one very feminine. In reality, Gia and Sharon were that way too. But they were perceived as a "femme-femme" couple because Gia was too beautiful to appear truly butch.

I'm not going to speculate on her sexuality a lot of people seem to have because she had sex with men in her life. That's not overly important the important thing is that the style she adopted is more common for bisexual women like say damn what's her name lol... Kristen Stewart. Lots of bisexual women adopt more androgynous styles or go back and forth between aesthetics like Halsey. They're not all bisexual obviously King Princess does this too and is a genderqueer lesbian. I'm non-binary and don't label my sexuality and have a similar style. They hate the ambiguity though. The same people who would have been pissed off about her then are now pissed off about this:

Straus is "emotionally lesbian," she says, but "culturally" a gay man: "Not really a woman, I've never been a woman. I'm a drag queen." In other words, she's a young, queer, female-presenting alpha, gleefully claiming a cultural patch of ground once mostly reserved for male artists.

'I came to terms with the fact that I am fully allowed to be both, in that I am so confident now in being feminine, but in this way that there's humility to it knowing that I could never wake up and put on a dress and walk outside,' she says. 'And yet, I can get on a set and turn it out. It's like using my body as a prop. Clothing is armour. Make-up is armour. It?s everything. I really have figured out my own juj, and now I feel like I act the most feminine as far as my personality. And yet, my physical appearance is very in-between.'

And honestly she seems more self confident and happy than most people can tolerate, and that makes them hate this even more lol. Same with Dylan Mulvaney.

LENT: Who is The L Word character you most relate to?

STRAUS: Although I am non-binary, I'm way too femme to be a Shane. Shane is also calm. That's what my girlfriend said yesterday. She was like, "Girl, you look like Shane kind of, but you are nothing like her personality." And I was like, "Thank you."

LENT: That's an astute observation. Some people just see a shag haircut and think, "They're a Shane."

my porter cover by @quinnwilsonn
happy non binary day I'm so grateful to be smack dead in the middle of the gender spectrum. It's fun to be nothing and everything at the same time

The L Chat website:

She looks like she smells and her music sucks, that's why she's not popular here

What the [BEEP] does this mean? She needs to put down the ketamine and [BEEP] theory

DA. She call herself a lesbian sometimes... And sometimes she said she feels like a drag man... Then she literally comes and says [BEEP] like
She is a "young, [BEEP] female-presenting alpha" and that she's "emotionally lesbian" but "culturally a gay man"... So pretentious lmao. And then it's the "Non-binary Day" and she says that she's always been Non-binary.

I don't think she said that she's a 'female alpha' actually that was the interviewer's interpretation lol... I don't think these people would be a fan of this track lol:



Reminding me of this too lol which talks about the generational shift there in attitude:

It was extremely uncool to brag about yourself or seem confident it was part of the concept to be self effacing. These days the opposite is true. Caroline said it herself:

'17 year olds who present themselves as god's of the world straight out of the gate have a huge advantage and aren't looked down on.'

That would not have flown at all in the world they came up in.

By young people lol older people aren't a fan. Especially if the person is [BEEP] or black or overweight.

She's ok but she reminds me of one of those rich white girls in art school. There something try hard. also question how she got such massive money and backing behind her so fast. She's 19 it wouldn't surprise me if she's well connected. I mean even for lorde it took a year for her royals to get this much attention. There?s something off putting when someone gets hyped so much so fast.

When will these millennial/gen z women realize they will never ever be "one of the guys"? Non binary, drag girl, etc is the new "I'm NoT LiKE OTheR GiRls!" WOW you don't shave and you don?t own a bra...so fucking WHAT, kid?

I have never heard of this woman before, but clicking on that vid she looks like the female version of Napoleon dynamite

She looks like cole sprouse in that clip [rofl emoji]

^ this doesn't seem like an insult honestly he looks good, but I can tell they mean it as one lol....

This bit made up for having to see her hairy pits

They do like to talk about her body hair a lot.

I like her music but her videos always make me cringe a little bit. She tries too hard.
She could become more mainstream if her videos weren't so weird.

I find her a bit annoying and definitely not my type but I don't really understand all the "she's rich" criticisms. Taylor Swift grew up wealthy. Kristen Stewarts parents were both in the industry and she grew up in a multi million dollar home. Cara Delevingne's family has been immensely wealthy for generations. Those are all people who have or had popular threads on L Chat. Yeah, this girl is a bit much but she's one of the only popular youths out there dating women so it can't be a bad thing for us.

It's because she called herself genderqueer and expressed ambiguity about her gender identity. That entire forum is transphobic as fuck.

She is an annoying, pretentious trust fund baby. The "I'm a gay man in a woman's body" [BEEP] gave me so much second hand embarrassment. The industry tried shoving her down everyone's throats but it didn't work, lol.

Will she be the next Elliot?

^ Talking about Elliot Page I assume.

But people hate butch women too for copying men who are evil or for not being feminine because women are supposed to be feminine, and feminine women for conforming to gender roles - if you're [BEEP] and feminine you're attention seeking of course, and feminine men because they hate femininity and see it as weak and degrading, and trans people for a ton of different reasons but often the same reason they hate bisexuals - the ambiguity, trans women shouldn't have beards because they're not trying hard enough but if they are very feminine and pass they're conforming to stereotypes and saying all women are x, and trans men have to be super masculine or they're not real men but trans men usually aren't real men - they're not evil oppressors like cis men after all but they're also gender traitors and evil either because 'they chose to be men' or because 'you're abandoning the sisterhood cult' depending on whether the accuser is a misandric progressive or terf respectively and non-binary people are expected to be androgynous in a very particular way but generally rejected outright regardless but if you don't look androgynous 'how are you non-binary?' and if you do 'you're just saying all women have to look a certain way' and if you're amab (genetically male) you're not non-binary in the first place because non-binary people are all afab (genetically female) - you're a trans woman or a cis man, and they hate straight people for being evil oppressors, and sometimes even masculine cis men for being masculine and also for being evil oppressors. And they hate everyone for various other reasons too.

Love that for Humans.

Apparently Gia 'invented' the 'heroin chic' style which is bleak that they called it that considering her life/how she died. Also I think the shittiest part is that some people just look that way naturally (skinny, androgynous etc.)

The trend eventually faded, in part due to the heroin-related death of prominent fashion photographer Davide Sorrenti in 1997.[13][14] Journalist Amy Spindler described Sorrenti's death as "like a small bomb going off", extinguishing public denial of heroin use in the fashion world. The term heroin chic itself was coined at Sorrenti's wake by editor Ingrid Sischy, who commented: "This is heroin, this isn't chic. This has got to stop, this heroin chic." After his death, Sorrenti's mother, Francesca Sorrenti, led a public campaign against the use of heroin in fashion, after which the promotion of heroin chic subsided.[14] In 1999, Vogue dubbed Brazilian supermodel Gisele B?ndchen "The Return of the Sexy Model" and the end of the heroin chic era.[15]

Heroin chic is a style popularized in early-1990s fashion and characterized by pale skin, dark circles underneath the eyes, emaciated features, androgyny and stringy hair--all traits associated with abuse of heroin or other drugs.

No I'm naturally crazy and skinny actually.



That album had some really great songs actually.

[Nyctophilia]

I have a track record of dating very left wing women. Two of them went full lesbian, one was the "I'll sleep with whoever I want, you mean very little to me" type, and another was adamant she was lesbian even though admitting dating other women felt "awkward and unnatural" to her. My ex fiance who went lesbian later told me "you treated me way better than any of my girlfriends" and "girls suck" all the time. I realized I agree and haven't dated since. The world has truly lost it's mind. One girl told me I was a homophobe for not being interested in dating other guys. Suffice it to say I like being alone these days and spending time in nature. It's the only place where sanity still exists.

As a woman, I like being alone and in nature as well. I gave up on dating. Such a waste of time and energy. If I ever meet someone I like and he's available- great, if not- well....

We may all disagree and hate each other but we all avoid relationships and like spending time in nature. :')

Why not try dating a conservative leaning woman?

It's funny that he thinks that most young women (say below age 40,) aren't at least liberal at this point. There's an increasing political rift between men and women in at least the US and UK. I don't know how old that guy is but most guys prefer dating younger women so... Varies depending on where you live too of course.

Just stop dating green square red square is mostly straight:



lol....

I mean I'm green square and [BEEP] so it's legit. Not a lesbian though I'm much worse.

The YouTube algorithm has gotten scarily good at suggesting videos again:





"So you're a failure and you like looking at people with long hair and glasses and music?"

(I haven't watched either of these videos yet.)

Lol wait I wasn't even signed into my main YouTube account I use to watch most videos actually. What is happening. Maybe an IP thing.

I haven't started reading it yet, but I have sitting on my bookshelf "Art Sex Music" by Cosey of TG. I've heard that in the book Cosey doesn't have a lot of nice things to say about Gen. Gen was abusive towards Cosey. I think Gen was a very intelligent and interesting person, but I agree about the music being mid, even if influential. Maybe not a person you'd want to compare yourself with. I must also say I like your tree background while talking. It actually reminds me of some of Varg's videos back before he was banned from here.

"You might not wish to compare yourself to this person given their history of abusive behaviour and 'mid' music. But I'm going to compare you to the metal musician who killed a guy and set fire to several churches."

I love this timeline.

Also I had no idea who this person was but this is actually a famous black metal musician who is the granddaughter of some oil tycoon with a wikipedia page and I'm just like being suggested her videos where she rambles about random esoteric stuff and music lol. OK. I have a few thousand less subscribers on my random nobody channel it's a similar range though but my video views are a lot higher. I guess these things don't transfer from platform to platform though every time.

It's weird. This is really fucking weird.

Actually I think it's mostly her recent videos that have hardly any views she has some older ones with more views also music uploads have more views. It's still kind of weird though.

I wasn't sure if she was non-binary since she was discussing Genesis and then brought up non-binary people in that video but I think she's a trans woman.

[Nyctophilia]

She was rending a flat in Scotland and apparently her landlord went to prison for Human trafficking. Not overly surprised after the video before where she talked about how it was burgled. I remember thinking that sounded weird. Like why the [BEEP] did someone just leave a pair of shoes in there? And there were other things but my memory of that video is hazy now.

That guy in the top right photo I guess:

https://www.scotland.police.uk/what-...rt-in-glasgow/

Oh I was searching for an article lol and she linked on in the description anyway:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...5GXq7YbubedR2E

Jesus! I knew the UK had serious issues with migrant sex trafficking but it's blindsiding when it strikes so close! I'm from the US and keep up with the news over there and it's horrible. Hope you and the family are ok, as well as the victims, and that scumbag gets what's coming to him.

There are a disturbing amount of organised large scale sex crimes that happen here. Also slavery.

[Doseone]

This opinion might be a little bit controversial, but most humans don't deserve to live until old age. We kill so many animals, why do we think that we deserve long lives? Also, most people do very little to minimize human suffering. There are still people in the world dying of hunger/malnourishment. There are still people without access to clean water. Why do we think we deserve long/happy lives?

[Nyctophilia]

I love how this is only 'to all the men who are playing video games.' It's only a problem if you're a guy I guess lol.

The dragon metaphor is getting really old too lol. Not every video game is Skyrim.

Bro I work 50 - 60 hours a week, come home, study and work on gaining my Diploma in my field. Cook, clean, keep my relationship going. Let me play the damn game 😂

Nah bro you know the rules. As a man your hobbies can?t be 'fun' lol

My meaning is to live, survive and succeed in spite of those who don't want me to.

I wouldn't say this is my meaning but it would stop me from ever killing myself. The knowledge that so many people want people like me to die and wanting to spite those people is pretty powerful motivation to keep living actually lol.

Jordan Peterson is a genius

Indeed where would we be without the amazing advice of 'clean your room' and 'don't play video games.'

Also speaking of conservatives nagging she somehow managed to fit complaining about women who have a lot of sex, lesbians, trans people, and otherwise masculine women (you should be feminine,) into this video:



In a really fake forced way as well like 'oh and I was totally a tomboy in high school. Because of all the sluts! They forced me to be masculine so I wouldn't be seen as a slut!'

And as we all know there's definitely only two styles of dress overtly sexual and tomboy. Yup.



It doesn't count if a bunch of girls didn't force you into a feminine makeover at some point. Because that's what actually happens lol.

But no she doesn't have trad fem aesthetics it's true as she sort of points out, but she's still lecturing people lol. Clearly she needs to watch some Abby Shapiro videos on how to become a classic woman lol.

When will conservatives learn that the more you guys all nag the less I and everyone else wants to do anything you say?



Also there are studies that contradict all her points including a paper that shows that white women especially are less happier with kids. This idea that increasing depression is down to one specific thing can't really be proven anyway it's a convenient narrative. You could also argue it may have increased because of social media since the usage of that increased around the same time.

She's very out of touch too people in general really are having increasingly less sex:

Human sexual activity affects cognitive function, health, happiness and overall quality of life--and, yes, there is also the matter of reproduction. The huge range of benefits is one reason researchers have become alarmed at declines in sexual activity around the world, from Japan to Europe to Australia. A recent study evaluating what is happening in the U.S. has added to the pile of evidence, showing declines from 2009 to 2018 in all forms of partnered sexual activity, including penile-vaginal intercourse, anal sex and partnered masturbation. The findings show that adolescents report less solo masturbation as well.

The decreases "aren't trivial," as the authors wrote in the study, published on November 19 in Archives of Sexual Behavior. Between 2009 and 2018, the proportion of adolescents reporting no sexual activity, either alone or with partners, rose from 28.8 percent to 44.2 percent among young men and from 49.5 percent in 2009 to 74 percent among young women. The researchers obtained the self-reported information from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior and used responses from 4,155 people in 2009 and 4,547 people in 2018. These respondents to the confidential survey ranged in age from 14 to 49 years.

Surprised that people are masturbating less tbh but not surprised that people are having less sex.

My YouTube suggestions are just nagging for every gender now. Well sort of if you watch all of that but still no agender nagging. Agender people have the power to destroy the conservatives once and for all.

[Nyctophilia]

Lauren Boebert's lover Quinn Gallagher who she fondled in theater owns gay-friendly bar that hosted DRAG shows

Hmm she is hot. Terrible political opinions though.

Frankly though my biggest takeaway is that this happened at Beetlejuice the musical. There's a musical? I did not know. It does make sense though. Also she went to this musical? Hmm. I feel like it wasn't her idea. You know that meme that's like Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point. It's like that but with fun date ideas.

edit: Hold up how did they know I just posted this:

The meme has been referenced in regard to Donald Trump,[4][5] David Portnoy,[6] Mo Brooks,[7] Neil Gorsuch,[8] Matt Gaetz,[9] and Lauren Boebert.[10] While referencing the meme, writers at Mic and Vulture called the article "absolutely iconic"[11] and "one of the best articles to ever grace the internet",[12] respectively.

Lol obviously not but that's funny.

Also everyone is outraged about them feeling each other up at the musical which is apparently all ages so I've lost some interest in the musical now. Beetlejuice was a pervert really so it kind of fits the vibes lol.

I generally don't see the point of musicals that aren't Repo or Rocky Horror. PG musicals sound like a bad idea. I never watched the American Idiot musical but I guess that's mildly interesting since Green Day were my favourite band at one point as a teenager. I haven't seen any of it on YouTube because I figure if I ever get to watch it it would be better to just see it live.

Not pg lol:



At one point I helped fund the crowdfund of the Devil's Carnival so I have that on blueray I think. I'm not sure if there were multiple versions of it but I had one version. Think I only watched it once lol. Wasn't a huge fan but I did enjoy Repo. I did like this song though at the time:

I have to say, for this being a privately funded movie, I gave it easily a 5/5. It really is fantastic to watch and the singing is amazing. I must have watched it 20 times before I realized Hannah Wagner was in it.

Lol I never noticed that at all until reading some comment or something about it before. I mean I didn't know her full name initially anyway. I'm technically in a YouTube video with her lol but it was a collab video with a bunch of people and that was before she got somewhat famous so later that video got a bunch more views. It was very weird seeing she was in that though although it's a small role like 'oh yeah that's that person from YouTube lol.' She just disappeared too I think except the occasional horror film role. I assume she reconsidered the fame etc after her YouTube channel blew up so much and probably wanted to do other things.

Emilie Autumn was in it too but her music is really hit and miss for me in general so wasn't that into her in the film. I like these songs/performances:



^ this is like pure undiluted conservative trigger material haha. There was lots of stuff from before Tumblr took off and made certain subcultures more visible.





Definitely posted this before but I think she would be fun to see live but I didn't back in the day so I think that ship has sailed now. I kinda miss this aesthetic like dark cabaret mostly for nostalgia reasons. It was semi popular at one point mostly because of Panic! At the Disco. Oh I forgot Dresden Dolls actually had a video messing around with Panic! At the Disco lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Teob57Kvw

Oh and yeah Alkaline Trio at one point lol:



I kind of used to dress like that at one point too lol. I had a steampunk themed faux corset thing (I'm not sure how to describe it had like metal things) and some other stuff.

But I'd guess this was probably partly because of Moulin Rouge the film and this etc:



This was funny too lol:



Also there are some songs from Chicago I liked when I had to watch that in school:

[Nyctophilia]

Huh didn't realise there was a remix by Dope Stars Inc.



I like this song by them:



They also had a music video filmed in The Sims 2 lol.



For some reason I thought Dope Stars Inc was this band but that's Deathstars lol:



^ I like this song but the lyrics are so funny lol

"When the dark does what the dark does best
It's darkness"

My second favourite cyanide song probably. The first is To The End of course:



to the vows you take
(And say goodbye) to the life you make
(And say goodbye) to the heart you break
And all the cyanide you drank

Forming a list of songs with cyanide in lmfao. My Chemical Romance also have a song called The End to make things potentially more confusing. It is not as good as To The End.

And there was a Sims 2 music video someone made with that Cyanide song that I stumbled on while trying to find the Dope Stars Inc one lol so even YouTube thinks they're the same, but that was fan made I think the Dope Stars Inc video was actually official.

So cheesy and camp lol.



This isn't the best example perhaps, but this is why I call metal straight camp lol.

[Heelsbythebridge]

Why did I go sleep on the couch last night instead of my bed?

[Otherside]

The story of Nico the XL Bully doing the rounds here. Seems he tore a child to pieces. Suddenly became aggressive out of nowhere. Turns out he is descended from Killer Kimbo. Dog was large, muscular. Everything you want in an XL Bully. Seems that Kimbo's offspring are unusually aggresive, likely the result of Kimbo being heavilly inbred (4 of his great grandparents appear to be the same person.

So, the American's stopped using Kimbo to breed more XL Bullies. What was it the British did?

A few days ago, we found ourselves silently observing an Instagram Live session featuring four different Bully XL breeders—three from the UK and one from the US. They were engaged in a frank discussion about their anticipated breeding programs’ future prospects. One UK breeder unfurled his dog’s pedigree, essentially a large piece of paper charting a family tree, and pointed to a name a few generations back: Kimbo.With a level of confidence that was somewhat startling, the UK breeder declared his desire to return to breeding from Kimbo’s line. The reaction from the US breeder was instantaneous and startling. Her face fell, reflecting what could only be described as utter horror. After an awkward silence, she firmly advised the UK breeder not to deal, under any circumstances, with any bloodline stemming from Kimbo.

Several UK breeders continue to disregard Kimbo’s disturbing legacy, choosing to incorporate his offspring into their breeding programs. The allure of Kimbo’s bloodline, renowned for its formidable size and sturdy build, seems to eclipse any underlying issues.

****ing idiots. Why am I not surprised.

Then we have MMB Marshall who apparently is a very popular XL Bully to breed with.

MBB King Marshall’s mother, known as MVP’s Dolly Parton, reveals an interesting lineage. Tracing the family tree back three generations, one finds the names Kimbo and his progeny, the Unstoppable Juggernaut. Examining the full pedigree discloses Kimbo’s lineage repeated four times across five generations. You also find MBB Camo, King Marshall’s paternal grandmother, which was the dog who’s offspring killed Megan Millner in 2020.

Turns out, majority of Bullies here are actually descendents from Kimbo himself, who all happen to have a certain type of name.

In the UK, we believe the majority of dogs can trace their origins to a limited number of foundation animals. The dogs that were imported back in 2014 to 2015. Looking as far back as 5-6 generations, it becomes evident that the same dogs recur consistently in every dog’s lineage. However, one dog stands out among all – Kimbo.

And whilst in America, we have -

There is a faction of US breeders deeply invested in the well-being of the breed and are actively participating in a study to investigate potential genetic issues with Kimbo’s offspring. They are also probing whether there might be something akin to the A22 gene in Belgian Malinois or rage syndrome in Cocker Spaniels prevalent in the American Bully population. They have examined other bloodlines and documented incidents involving dogs attacking people, suffering mental breakdowns, or killing other dogs on their premises. Many argue that temperament testing and selective breeding should now be the top priority, even ahead of physical health and structure.

In Britain, we have -

breeders fall into two distinct categories. Firstly, there are pandemic-era breeders who seem more focused on profit than breed health, with little understanding of genetics or temperament. They operate under the illusion that XLs were bred to be affectionate family pets, an idea bolstered by a network of illicit fertility clinics ready to stake their claim on the breed’s popularity. Secondly, you have the experienced breeders, many of whom are part of the UKBKC circuit. These breeders are aware of Kimbo’s lineage and actively seek it. We do not mince words here: we firmly believe that the majority of XL breeders have no regard for the breed’s health or the law.

And -

Instead of prioritizing health and temperament, the emphasis was disproportionately on size. Breeders sought to produce even larger dogs, advertising studs for their power, size, and “monstrous” strength. Features like the Merle color pattern, now associated with health issues, were intentionally bred to offer a unique selling point. Alarmingly, dogs as young as one year old were being used as studs, and female dogs were being bred in their very first season.

The toxic culture of Bully kennels can be best summarized by what’s become the gold standard of American Bully marketing: the classic shot featuring an XL Bully in sharp focus at the forefront, while an owner — or often an attractive woman or professional model — struggles to hold back the powerful animal, blurred in the background. More nefariously, one account with 100k followers even put dogs in traditional dog fighting poses complete with a scratch corner.

Of course, we buy these dogs because we want to look hard rather than actually get a pet, and for some reason, struggling to keep the animal on lead is a selling point. That's why we didn't buy a Labrador, and why we bought a pitbull-cross, even though we have multiple kids in the house and don't really have anywhere to fit a giant, 70kg dog.

In the midst of all this chaos, the biggest victim is the American Bully itself. From its very inception, the American Bully has been commodified, reduced to an accessory rather than appreciated as a living being with needs and feelings. The dog serves as a prop in social media posts, a status symbol, and ultimately, a means to make money for those who exploit it.

They're not completely wrong. Neither is this -

While there are no quick fixes or easy solutions, one thing remains abundantly clear: much of the chaos is self-inflicted. The American Bully community brought this upon themselves.

That groups twitter post as well -

Why did a breed, where the breeders often have face tattoos and who's ancestry studs are called: ULP’S LEGION, KING LIGER, PRISONBOUND BULLIES ALABAMA’S FINEST MOONSHINE, IRONTHRONE’S CHAINSAW, BLUEFIRE’S TERRORIST THREAT, POWERFULL BULLY BLACK MAMBA, DIEHARD STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON, IRON CROSS MAIDEN’S REVOLUTION, VAUGH’S MR ASSASSIN, DELA CRUZ’ DUNGEON 5150, EBI’S THE JOKER, ODD JOB, CHAIN GANG SILVER, BROOKSVILLE SCARFACE, SIR SMOKE ALOT, BIG BOY BRICK, SACRY BLUE D L'EXL DES TITANS, SCORPION KENNELS PARIS HILTON, HATFIELD MONSTER MUTT, SHOGUN WARRIOR, ARNOLD THE TERMINATOR, CUTTHROAT KURUPTION, THE SAVAGE OF MOTOWN KENNELS, KING SABRE, DARKEST DAYS DRACO, BEAUTY OF THE BEAST, HMONG WARRIROR, BRINGING THE PAYNE not raise a single red flag with anyone?

I wasn't going to say it, but...

[Doseone]

This opinion might be a little bit controversial, but most humans don't deserve to live until old age. We kill so many animals, why do we think that we deserve long lives? Also, most people do very little to minimize human suffering. There are still people in the world dying of hunger/malnourishment. There are still people without access to clean water. Why do we think we deserve long/happy lives?

Actually, I take this back. Everyone deserves to live long/happy lives. Although it's not possible due to some people's brains being fucked up. Unless we come up with a way to fix people's brains, there is always going to be criminal behavior/chaos. Nobody truly deserves to suffer.

[Nyctophilia]

I think the most disgusting and heinous thing Jordan Peterson has ever said is that feminists have an unconscious desire for brutal male domination because they don't criticise Islamists or Islamic regimes. I was watching an interview with him where he said that. It sounds like something a very online misogynist would argue (they often argue feminists have a subconscious desire to be raped.) It's made my opinion of him much lower because it reminds me of various online anon idiots. But it's also just completely nonsensical as feminists don't agree with islamists even if they don't criticise them. And they don't criticise them due to some combination of fear, lack of relevance to their everyday life because they don't live in those countries, and in some cases ideologically placing them in a category that's considered vulnerable because they're a minority group in the West.

The more extreme feminists would castrate every man if they could (at least metaphorically, but if they're that extreme not just metaphorically honestly. I've heard some people argue in favour of that...) and that does include and even especially mean 'men like that.' But I'm sure they don't focus on distant targets they can't take down because they're not delusional and a better strategy would be convincing women in those countries to deal with problematic men not criticising those men. I mean what's criticising them going to do lol? 'Oh no the white women halfway across the world are mad at us... We will have to change now!" Lol no. You influence the women in those countries to take action.

That's also why they spend more time reporting on and writing papers about dissident gender related movements within foreign cultures. Like the nisu subculture in China. In China they'll do that and then the state will intervene by eg: shutting down fanfiction websites and going after obsessive kpop fans and kpop groups lol. Because they are a threat but it's difficult. Much harder to gain any traction in a conservative Islamic country but obviously there's been a lot of pushback in Iran recently which Western feminists have spoken about quite a bit actually but I think this might have been after the interview where he said that not 100% sure. I mean from the looks of it he's been saying similar stuff in several discussions since at least 2018 but the more recent video interview I was watching was from 2021.

It is not like feminists are agreed on the topic about 10 years ago there were a number of protests like this as well:



And the response from Western men was like this:

This is what happens to girls who grow up without proper father figures who love them

That is when reality hits.

Peace be upon my Muslim brothers. As a Christian, thank you for getting some hits in.

Quick to put the boots in weren't they? These women showed a heroic level of bravery here.

What bravery ? More like degeneracy.

Hahaha why did they kick her 😂 that took me by surprise

because their religion isn't inline with feminism ideology...

Feminist sick toxic

Jordan Peterson: See look! She's being brutally dominated just like she obviously wanted.

er I think they might be lesbians

Lol these comments.

Though I'm not a feminist since I don't agree fully with the ideology, I just enjoy the destruction of 'tyrannical/hegemonic masculinity' myself, or of men acting in service of it. Possibly too much. There has been a certain porn scenario recently involving a soldier being transformed + forced to convert to the opposite side + feminisation themes... 'You were just going to be canon fodder now we've made you into something way better.' 👀 Anyway...

Actually technically I had a semi-lucid dream related to that too (well maybe, that part was hazy in my memory when I wrote it down. I think the overall symbolism is still there regardless.)

I was watching TV (only it was more like being online,) and this guy he'd posted this image of himself with like four photos and saying that he was a virgin at the time all these photos were taken but not the last one.

And I was like 'WHAT THE **** YOU WERE A VIRGIN WHEN THE THIRD PHOTO WAS TAKEN BUT YOU'RE SO HOT' because he was like slim and had long black hair and was basically a hot goth.

So anyway then the guy appears and we end up in my room but then it's not entirely clear if he's into me or not and then I'm also unsure how we can have sex, and then I look at him and he has a beard and I'm like 'oh no' because I want to date the goth guy but now he has a beard. [...]

Then a bit later I have some kind of false awakening where I'm explaining this dream.

Only I didn't wake up and then at some point he was back and explaining that nobody liked him before and he met some guy in a park and changed his outlook (maybe he also joined the army but that's kind of vague in my memory.) Then he was successful with women. And then I guess because of the false awakening thing maybe it was semi lucid now it wasn't entirely because I don't think I knew I was dreaming, but I seemed to have more control. So after that I decided to alter the dream and try and convince him to wear a certain outfit that was inspired by a pornographic image I like where there's this goth person surrounded by dicks wearing fishnets and stilettos and a bikini (or something I dunno exactly,) and partly another image I had in mind (was some Loki fanart,) like two of them sort of combined, but he got really into the idea and got aroused.

While trying to find that dream I discovered this one from 2015 again lol:

Day 2 and getting worse:

I dreamt that I found out that this really great guy I went to uni with who I haven't spoken to in years that was really friendly and easy going, killed himself to avoid being killed by the US army for desertion because he couldn't take it anymore.

And I was like oh my god his girlfriend must feel awful (cause he's been in a relationship with this woman in real life for over half a decade now I guess)

I was really torn up about this in dream and then and this is odd as this has never happened before [username] you were there as one of your avatars I think, along with someone I used to watch on YouTube, turns out you both had to watch him die so sorry about that but then you both dissapeared,

and then I was in my kitchen and I was really upset and angry so I chucked this butter knife at the kitchen counter and it bent and was like what the **** is wrong with the US why would they do this!? and then [username 2] (Yeah I know we've barely ever talked even on this forum,) you were were in my kitchen as well and said something silly like 'Now you know how we (US citizens) feel all the time.'

Then cut to various scenes of sad people that I used to know and his mum standing in my old uni crying. Hugging a made up daughter.

So yeeeaaah. That's the last time I give you amunition by making a thread subconcious.

edit: I checked his facebook after this and he's ill. I'm totally psychic (not) if he dies now from a cold I will secretly blame myself forever. Stay strong guy I never spoke to much.

I've also had many dreams where guys I've been attracted to or recently had some romantic interaction with have been attacked or abducted etc. One time I was about to have a threesome with a famous musician and this woman who is in his live band, and then some men broke in and tied up the guy so I started to escape with the woman, but then I thought I had to go back and save him so I went back and opened the door to the room and he was tied up on this chair I think then I woke up before that went further. Many dreams where I'm trying to save someone but usually wake up before there's any conclusion. I think that was partly influenced by often wanting to help someone (specific) who I couldn't help. The precursor to some of these dreams was sexual or romantic so that's related too but it wasn't always. Also this will sound insane but I have a theory that some of that maybe dates back to playing Abe's Odyssey when I was a kid lol. But it's also just a subconscious millennial thing maybe because of the media:



Jordan Peterson is playing into that too lol when he insists that feminists in the West should save women all around the world. (Though I believe his motivation is more to get them to stop complaining about Western men.)

There was some really weird dynamic I noticed earlier today on twitter when I stumbled on some random discourse (this is tangentially related but takes a little while to get there.) I don't know fully what was going on or how it involved men at all but there was this woman I think who kept making false fundraisers and then some other woman had uploaded videos pointing out how she was fake etc and whether or not she was correct I don't know either because I don't know what's going on and someone compared this woman to justpearlythings which is never a good thing regardless - that really wasn't the interesting part.

The interesting part was that in response to whatever was happening for some reason a bunch of black men were commenting on how a white woman was protecting them. But they were doing it in a kind of trying to make black women jealous way again. Because on twitter black men and women are often at each other's throats in a way that mirrors white men and women. So sometimes I see the equivalent to what white western men do where they talk about how they're going to get an East Asian or Eastern European wife but with black guys talking about preferring white women, and black women doing the same with white guys sometimes too.

Uhhh ohhh white women are involved now.. it's going to get ugly here soon.

YT women protecting black men. Love to see it

YT always just makes me think of YouTube lol. YouTube women.

damn.. a white woman protecting black men before black women ??? OOF 😶

Crazy how it takes a white woman to protect black men

YT women are now protecting black men. Black women will cry and I love to see it. They will learn by force.

YT women protecting black men and the black women wonder why the black men hang with the YT women

I don't know why there's so many of these comments..

Some black women were annoyed with all the comments saying stuff like 'you're grown men why do you need a woman to protect you?'

Also some of the other stuff getting posted was really bad. Like a guy posted a bunch of tweets from various black woman to showcase how black women hate black men, and I'm not even going to talk about those tweets. It got dark.

Anyway this is kind of novel lol. And I'm very fascinated by the chaos of online discourse and tribalism at this point. Especially as it relates to sex and relationships. Oh no really someone is even making this argument in another twitter thread lol:

It's literally that whole stereotype that White women are submissive they're "trained" to be wives from a young age & Black women we are seen as independent don't want to be led we are raised in houses where we seen our mothers do it all so we don't like to be told what to do.

Said no else ever about white women lol.

I'm getting conflicting messages.



There's a meme made by some incel I guess where there's a drawing of a white guy with an East Asian (I think Chinese based on dress,) woman saying 'let's have lots of children' and a bunch of white women in some kind of crab pose holding black babies and a bubble saying 'autistic screeching' Then there's a caption saying 'the age of white women is over' lol.

I stumbled on that meme while trying to see if the meme image I ended up having to make myself already existed.

You all need Panacea because Jesus can't fix this nightmare.

Why do I keep staring at trainwrecks/the abyss? I don't know. I'd probably press the electrocution button at least once. Well maybe not - I'm less into physical pain lol.

Imitation of life
Like a koi in a frozen pond
Like a goldfish in a bowl
I don't want to hear you cry

The track's title comes from Douglas Sirk's 1959 film of the same name and is used as a metaphor for adolescence and adulthood.

Now I'm using it as a metaphor for the internet. Though black mirror still works best.

The millennial urge to post resonating song lyrics on Twitter like it?s MySpace, MSN or early 2000's Facebook.

*everywhere.

But yeah the thing I said about the vulnerable racial minority category. That's part of the appeal probably. For some white women. Like the 'white saviour complex.' I think that's mostly sexless but I also imagine this kind of thing appeals to anyone who likes raceplay and has a gender role reversal fantasy too.

I disagree with Jordan Peterson a lot and also think he's driven largely by his emotions and he said the piece about feminists in this weird, angry, resentful bitter way in the interview:



It actually reminds me of the voice he puts on when he's talked about male feminists and other left wing men he has issues with who he compared to rapist orangutans (which is up there actually again with his comments towards feminists.) He's scared of them too. He admitted that before. He actually said he finds 'sjw women' (for lack of a better term he didn't say feminists and it's possible he was talking about any leftist female activists really, and maybe even trans activists,) annoying but the men there made his 'blood run cold.'

But he might have just wanted to provoke feminists into action or something with that statement. Or to try and distract people from their focus on white Western men (most likely the latter.) Weirdly there's a part of the same interview (I think anyway) that someone clipped where he discusses how dangerous and threatening and devouring he finds feminists and similar women while later bringing up that point about thinking feminists subconsciously want to be brutally dominated:



Makes it seem more like a projection of his own desires in a sense. Especially as he's previously said he has no idea how you communicate with women past a certain point because violence is off the table (it isn't, but I guess it is in his moral code that a lot of but not all guys follow.) So basically he's scared of women. I don't blame him.

The comments on that lol:

I have thought this for years... It gives a strong impression that feminism is a purely western drive.

I agree, in recent years it seems that it has gotten more prominent in the west

Wtf did I just see

These idiots just ignoring feminists elsewhere too (these are the same guys who think all non Western women are submissive ahahaha,) and yet they do exist. I spoke to a Russian radical feminist online. Putin declared feminism an extremist ideology lol. Groups like [BEEP] Riot also exist/have existed, though a lot of these people have had to leave Russia and have been imprisoned etc. These guys don't mean feminist when they say feminism either because there's the ideology and self identity and then there's just dominant women who might have similar or overlapping thought patterns and it's annoying because these definitions are used interchangeably. Eg: by some definitions I would be considered a feminist and by some not. I think culturally we've somewhat separated trans people now though from feminism but the genetic female side of that still gets lumped into feminism sometimes and sometimes the entire movement is as well. Sometimes trans activists are considered men's rights activists as well which is even funnier.

The nisu phenomenon isn't technically feminism (in some sense it's the opposite,) but would be considered feminism by the standards of manosphere thinkers as it involves fucking with male gender roles and it exists in China. Also I think this approach is more successful as it's more subconscious and doesn't necessarily involve criticising people per se (more correct to say it doesn't have to but I'm sure some people do because people in general often criticise types of people that don't appeal to them):

When FiFi, a 21-year-old female college student, first joined a fandom at a younger age, she had a difficult time understanding why male idols were written as women in some works of fanfiction, she told The China Project. "Perhaps that's because back then I had a very fixed understanding of gender. I thought these fans were a bit crazy," she said.

Her mindset changed when she became a fan of Zheng Yunlong 郑云龙, a Chinese singer who shot to fame after appearing in the 2018 HunanTV reality show Super Vocal. FiFi cites two main reasons why she became Zheng?s nisu fan.

"First, he possesses feminine traits that sometimes are more obvious than his masculine traits. Second, his fans are really good at discovering these feminine traits and creating works based on them," she said.

"In 2018 and 2019, most nisu fans rejected the description that they were 'feminizing' male idols," Chow told The China Project. "But in 2021, following the ban on 'sissy men' on Chinese television, they embraced the label of 'feminization' because of the belief that femininity should not be seen as inferior."

I'm sure lots of stuff is happening underground in other cultures that I'm not aware of, and that most Western people aren't aware of.

The West is in denial about this (but I am seeing a gradual move towards acknowledging this,):





Even Jordan Peterson technically:



"And that could easily be one of the things that's fuelling at least some of the tension that's existed and exists now politically between men and women."

Actually no though. I'm sure it has little to do with the birth control pill as those effects haven't been replicated and I've never been on birth control myself.

But in general people here haven't tried to go after people doing this kind of thing yet and obviously conservatives don't have as much power here. Western conservatives go after men directly by criticising them for being feminine, weak etc, but it hasn't started fucking with eg: female and [BEEP] fandom stuff yet online. Do I care? Or do I just want more attractive guys with long hair? Hmm.

"I think nisu is like cosmetic surgery for male idols," Rachel, a 21-year-old college student, told The China Project. She was introduced to nisu three years ago and has been in love with it ever since. "Have you seen these photoshopped pictures of men with long hair? They make the men much more appealing by giving them beautiful feminine features."

The comments on the original Jordan Peterson interview I was watching that was over an hour lol:

I love Jordan P, but he comes so close to the problem and just doesn't follow through. The females are the problem 100%. but he still white knights for them. I understand that the man has to do this to maintain friendliness in the public eye, but how are the females ever going to get the message that they are the problem? A problem mind you that cannot be solved as far as I am concerned. I humbly as you all, is there anything you can say to a female about their behaviour?? You cannot even suggest to them they are even remotely wrong.

JORDAN AND HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OF BEING HUMAN AND RESPECT THAT YOU'RE A GOD MADE PERSON EITHER MAN ♂️ OR WOMAN FEMALE NOT... DEMONIC POSSESSION OF THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF WOKE TW∆TS AND CORRUPT PRACTICES OF THE HUMAN RACE...

OK.

I was blown away when I saw this was made in 1984. It's so 90s sounding. They were the future.

It's true.

[Heelsbythebridge]

I have a coworker who seems to obsess over my every email and messages me on the side about them. None of them even involve him, but I CC our general group email because others need visibility.

This department is really overstaffed with too much time on everyone's hands. I need a new job asap

[Doseone]

It's so obvious to me that no object can have subjective experience. Brains might create what we're conscious of, but not the consciousness itself. Consciousness is essentially non-physical/formless.

[Nyctophilia]

So apparently Jordan Peterson has had to have court ordered social media training because of his position:



I don't know how I feel about him being forced to go through social media training.

However.

I do think the way he interacts on social media particularly twitter when I was paying attention to his timeline there is pretty terrible and I think he should justify some of his comments like about Elliot Page being a narcissist which he obviously only said because he dislikes trans people and because Elliot spoke about his transition publicly. I don't get the impression that he's narcissistic at all. And Jordan seems to call everyone he disagrees with ideologically psychopaths and/or narcissists now.

I could very easily be convinced that I'm psychopathic and narcissistic at least to some degree and have been accused of this by trolls online before. My bully growing up also tried to convince me that she started self harming because other students accused her of bullying me and I didn't disagree with them. I've had a lot of people try to convince me or joke that I'm evil, bad etc throughout my life and I do think there are problematic traits that run in my family. But then on the other hand you're seen as edgy to self diagnose yet that's what he's doing and on a mass scale. He keeps talking about how being trans is a social contagion but then insists that 'there's a terrible female narcissism that's dominating our culture' and I've seen people comment on interviews where he's talking about narcissism saying 'I worry that I might be a narcissist.' So he's definitely influencing people that way.

I mean I understand it to a point with some figures it's kind of obvious that Andrew Tate is a narcissist for instance but eh. I don't consider everyone I disagree with ideologically to be a psychopathic narcissist and yet he seems to be getting to the point where he does especially when it comes to men actually.





To this day Elliot Page hasn't responded to him lol.

Apparently he keeps calling Trudeau a narcissist now but I haven't really been paying attention to him, and don't know much about him. I certainly wouldn't take his word for it at this point lol.

Also since he is a psychologist talking about people in this kind of 'they're evil' and dehumanising way (referring to people as robots and non-human etc,) like he does is really bad. Maybe not the profession for him.



Trying to find short clips since often his comments are in much longer videos I've managed with a bunch of them but uh here we go. He describes women on only fans as androids and machine-woman-hybrids because once again everyone exhibiting behaviour he dislikes is a robot. He's not a machine-Man hybrid though. Then he goes on to say they're psychopaths and narcissists again:



This is a serious problem for people who struggle with delusional disorders, schizotypy, or dissociation. YouTube is full of mentally ill people who are desperately trying to find ways to make money - INCLUDING YOU (the greatest irony of all lol. He also struggles with mental illness at the very least depression) - I'm sure Only Fans is not better.

'You're a psychopathic narcissistic machine-woman-hybrid android demon etc.'

Wow. Excellent. This is going to help people. Who are what does he often say 'are barely clinging to the edges of reality.'



'In my defence I don't do this anonymously.' Oh good then I guess what Andrew Tate is doing is perfectly fine. He's not anonymous either. Glad we cleared that up.



And when he goes on these long insulting tirades basically calling men the equivalent of crazy cat women it's very ironic because he had this to say to Olivia Wilde:



"Demonizing people for being lonesome and isolated is not exactly helpful."

Cannot make this level of hypocrisy up. 🤣