Now and then I just look at memes like this and think about how if we survive as a species and if the education system survives (hopefully not in it's current form at least,) one day someone's going to be looking at stuff like this in some kind of history class.
There's something about that wojak that really cracks me up. (I think it's called 'art hoe' wojak originally? I dunno) It has this kind of like cute-evil vibe. I've seen it in like those Ukraine war memes with the they/them army stuff as well lol a while back.
Also this was posted on reddit and there were lots of comments about 'Emily's' I guess that's one of those names like Chad, Stacy and Karen etc but I've never heard anyone use this anywhere else yet there are several comments about it:
People were more intuitive in the past and it was an obvious and available construct for metaphor. The organization scheme has been used throughout cultures, religions, and languages.
The idea of some celestial "first mover" that seeded the universe clearly brings up masculine characteristics unless you're intentionally dense (a common malady today). Thus you get "He", "Father" or "Le Dieu".
The entity being seeded and incubating life naturally lends itself to "Mother Earth" or "La Terre".
In Asia Yin is a symbol of earth, femaleness, darkness, passivity, and absorption.
Yang is conceived of as heaven, maleness, light, activity, and penetration. Based asians got it.
Brain damaged Emilies trained to see offense in everything scream that this is some hateful patriarchal plot crafted to oppress women. When in reality if you talked to any of these people it probably just...made sense (something in rare supply today).
Young wordcels like to use computer terminology which is more gender neutral. But even there you could see how Le Bootloader and La Desktop as metaphor feel pretty natural.UCC is basically an Emily support group for 50 year old lesbiansGod identifies as male and anyone stating otherwise is misgendering him.
Use this against Emily'sBased and Emily hack pilledWtf is an Emily? First of all great name love that name. Emily The Strange. This song:Imagine believing in a supreme creator of the universe, but also being arrogant enough to tell it how to properly call itself, sasuga Emily sama.
Great. Very goth.
Secondly. I'm guessing some kind of progressive woman, 4chan and adj communities already have slurs for afab non-binary people - theyfab (though that's spread further now,) but that's more in-community like /tttt/ then outside.
I don't like Christianity so I wouldn't be trying to do that myself 'nah you can keep him lol' (there was the Jesus/Satan fanfiction era and I also think my personal headcannon of Satan is more cool, but putting these things aside,) but taking over other domains is ironically a very Ishtar/Inanna thing to do. And she was an androgynous sky goddess lol which makes that comment about the Sky/Earth dichotomy even funnier. She failed in trying to take over her sister Ereshkigal's realm in the underworld though. Many such cases. That's a difficult one. Someone should definitely make a video game about this. There is some overlap between Lucifer's story and Inanna and Persephone and then also Aphrodite.
Also when they make this a video game they should make it part of The God of War series. Not because I feel that's in any way necessary and I personally think it should be a new game series. But I think they should do this just to piss off all the obnoxious gamers that freak out massively like this:
Everytime something happens regarding character's gender, race etc. Or even just having a pronoun option during a character creation screen.
Oh no I'm not 'woke' on principle. I'm 'woke' because their overreaction is hilarious and irritating.
That being said he's only doing it because it gets him tons of views. It's unlikely that he's this mad all the time - and even if he is he's recording himself for views + money. This is a template that started far before him like this guy and his brother from way back in 2009:
Obviously most of these people need therapy. You can tell the guy above is mentally ill. I think a lot of the people who end up in these videos are autistic or have ADHD or BPD. Then some also struggle with addictions but I think video game addictions are secondary to other mental health issues and ADHD most of the time because it's not a chemical addiction so it's not a real addiction in the classic sense.
Coppercab was always angry in their videos and nobody knew if they were acting or not:
Ginger guys actually get tons of [BEEP] though in real life so that's more understandable than freaking out over a video game at least.
Apparently I wasn't up to date on some lore and coppercab came out as a trans woman (which people took seriously,) then went off hrt because of heart problems (which would be fine except see everything that follows,) and later seems to be some kind of gym bro who threatened Gavin Mcinnes though honestly that's somewhat understandable too since Gavin McInnes is a huge [BEEP] who likes to get into fights himself.
I get Oly London vibes from coppercab but a bit less politically involved. I don't know if they still id as trans or not I can't find info. Also obviously they have a history in gaming content incl. Runescape. And claims to be in a relationship with their half-sister:
On February 14, 2020, Michael revealed on Twitter that he and his half-sister Aubrey are in a relationship, claiming they hardly grew up together as Aubrey was raised by her mother and stepfather in Kansas while Michael grew up in Georgia.I come across so many fights like that honestly.Did you catch the fight between Gavin McInnes and Coppercab?
It's rare to watch a fight where I want both sides to lose
Alex Jones of course started to do this. He's always freaking out:
At a certain point people started to politicise this as with everything and it became a bigger issue. The weird thing about Alex Jones is he acts like this all the time as a rhetorical strategy and is popular with right wing figures, but when feminists or trans people act the same way it's considered cringe.
Obviously Alex Jones is still niche but he's managed to accrue a pretty large audience for his political agenda, gets on Joe Rogan.. A lot of people take him seriously even if most don't and his ideas also spread further than those who are devoted fans. When trans people or feminists do this kind of thing on camera it gets considered bad optics and that's among ingroup people. Though it's understandable how people get pissed off now and then.
I'm reading [BEEP] face. Classic.
What she's saying in this clip isn't even unreasonable really like if you remove the ideological language what she's basically saying is prison rape is bad, joking about prison rape belittles the issue culturally, and she doesn't want men to have to pay alimony but it was set up because women earn less because they prioritise domestic duties historically over professional goals + earning potential.
I think there are some other factors too like women being more agreeable on average so they don't tend to negotiate as high salaries and it's also possible that if they did they'd be judged for displaying those personality traits more. In research white women in the US (yes specifically white women,) are judged as ruthless and have a penalty for displaying signs of dominance even when they have high competence which must additionally disincentivise that behaviour for a lot of white women.
On the other hand I think I've heard that women in their 20s earn more than men in their 20s. I think it should only really apply in situations where a woman has below a certain amount of money to live off, like if they end up in poverty because they were a housewife. Some people have attempted to calculate how much housewives should earn though based on how much people doing similar jobs earn and it's quite a bit. Some figures I've seen are like:
$120,900 (62,590 pounds)
There is obviously a huge issue with basically devaluing every traditional female role economically. I suppose the right wing counter argument would be something like 'well women shouldn't be getting divorced, and this is only an issue if you get divorced.'
But yeah she's just yelling everything and really angry so people don't listen (because she's not Alex Jones.) Though of course Alex Jones rambling about dark matter but not really talking about dark matter at all in the physics sense but something entirely different, pedophilic vampire demon aliens and so on... Isn't more reasonable. Honestly he started talking about gravity and dark matter but in a way that made no sense. It was the most insane thing I'd ever listened to in terms of like a ratio of how highly he's regarded (like why is he on this podcast,) vs the insanity and accuracy of what he is saying. Not sure I can find that hilarious Joe Rogan interview clip now... This is one clip with some insane stuff either way:
And I say this as someone who probably understands him better than most as my thought patterns have many schizoid and archetypal tendencies.
Most of what he's saying is insane the only accurate points are like 'people are demoralised now and often don't want kids' everything else he says is just insane. And yet the comments are mostly agreeing with him and saying things like 'he's 70% correct.' Nope!
I'm searching this subreddit to try and figure the Emily thing out.
For the last time Emily, an upside cross is not "satanic" no matter what you think.We have found the male version of Emily - I present to you: EmilioWell it is dumb.Anyone have a wojak for Emily?
Me when Emily says school is dumb and we should get rid of maths class
[then he's put a dot in the far right authoritarian section of the political compass meme]
I think it's basically just a progressive person or something because this is the political compass subreddit.
I don't think it is but I can understand how people get to this conclusion when twitter is full of retarded rationalists and rationalist-adj people turning shaperotater and wordcel into some kind of culture war battle. That includes Jordan Peterson who jumped on that (I stumbled on this again in that article I was reading yesterday lol):Math is hard guys. Therefore racist and a tool of white imperialism.
That last one is currently being debated seriously on my campus
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkpq...shape-rotators
It's funny because he's a 'wordcel.' Based on the definition. Someone pointed that out elsewhere lol.
Like it's insane but not as insane as people think when you consider the hell that is social media where everyone especially teenagers spend most of their time. It's also a proxy war for the greater gender war.
I mean it's still very insane but it's an insanity that was 100% caused by... As this is the political compass subreddit where only 4 squares exist - yellow lib right wing ephebophilia square men.
Here's the thing when you demonise every feminine trait and skill in society and devalue those subjects and roles economically in a culture where everyone is competing economically. Feminine people disregard them and/or work on destroying your [BEEP] instead. It's much more fun. And you don't disagree since you all want to die in a war anyway.
Also a big section of the culture war 'began' in the US humanities (not the race part obviously that's a working class thing,) so I think that should be taken seriously and not treated as coincidence.
Back to reddit for a second:In a long essay about the origins of the terms, the prolific Twitter shitposter roon claimed to have invented the term wordcel on in October of 2021 while engaging in a discourse battle online.
"To the best of my knowledge, I coined the word in the heat of battle with another prodigious schizoposter (Mr. @Logo_Daedalus, whom I feel no animosity towards), and he became a kind of ur-example archetypal figure in the wordcel sphere,? roon said in their essay. "A deep yet largely unintelligible expert in the humanities, history and philosophy, his verbal abstractions have led him quite far from the base reality we share. While some of these types will become presidents, poets, priests, the vast majority will live and die producing little value, chasing down rhetorical dead-ends, with their scholarship forgotten. This is the central tragedy of the wordcel."
The shape rotator, too, is a common archetype of the online world. This is a person who can do their taxes in a breezy afternoon but struggles to make eye contact during dinner. 'They may be very good at details and bad at seeing the bigger picture,' roon wrote. 'The demarcation isn?t just between STEM and humanities?you will absolutely find wordcels in the STEM domain' rather, it's about modes of thinking. It's about realism, thing-orientation over people-orientation, and investigative grounding in the tangible world.'
Actually the nerds are often highly competitive assholes if you spend quite a bit of time with them - and I have irl and online - you'll notice. So if you were going to get stuck on some idea like this that would have made more sense then 'maths itself is imperialist.' No the people are assholes. The people are always assholes. Not all of them but like a bunch and I think that realisation is probably off putting to a lot of people who have a stereotype of certain groups being 'not like jocks (tm.)' I'm pretty sure this is why BAP hates nerds. And he even has a degree from MIT in mathematics lol. Then again given the ambiguity of the term it's never clear who he means and I don't think he means the nerds that these - mostly women - dislike. I think he just means any 'soft' guys who are into nerdy subcultural interests (which are varied and technically many would fall under the definition of 'wordcel' since in order to create fiction like Tolkien or other fantasy universes you have to have high verbal intelligence obviously. So that's a bit ironic.)Of course, this is what they say (sort of). What they actually think is presumably "hmm women are typically not represented in groups that require high mathematical acumen. That means that they must be being excluded. What's that? the nerds would happily hire a woman? Well then, the math itself must be oppressive. Didn't those guys that wear dresses from the desert invent a bunch of math? I bet that?s woke, let's teach that instead"
This then devolved from wanting to replace 'western math' with legitimate mathematics from different places and cultures that all works together because it's FUCKING MATH and it's all taught, obviously, to wanting to teach non-mathematical (non-scientific) principles as valid alternatives used to understand the nature of the universe. This is how we got to the video of those morons in a US college claiming that shamans in Africa can call down lightning and science can't explain it. Spoiler; Shaman can't learn Thunderbolt. It didn't happen.
TLDR; libleft bad, math good, wall of text, [BEEP] Arts majors
Part of the reason no one's having sex now is that nerds in uni used to have sex with weird artsy girls who read a lot and dyed their hair but now those girls 'Emily' if you will hate nerds and want to destroy them lol.
Venture capitalist. That makes sense. And I was right! Yellow square lol.Quick, how many cubes can you rotate in your brain? If you're struggling to even form the image of a cube in your mind, let alone rotate it, then I'm sorry to say that you're not a shape rotator. You are, in fact, probably a wordcel. If you have no idea what wordcel and shape rotators are, I will explain it to you, and I'm sorry your curiosity has brought you to this article.
At its base, the dichotomy is simple. Wordcels are people who are good with words. Shape rotators are people who are good with math and abstract thought. Use of the terms has skyrocketed online in the past few months, and especially in the last few days.
The term shape rotator has been floating around online for a few years now. The term wordcel has been around less than a year. You're hearing about them now thanks to a venture capitalist and a Washington Post reporter.
On Feb. 2, Netscape co-founder turned venture capitalist Marc Andreessen tweeted what was, to most, incomprehensible gibberish.
I'm annoyed that they're still trying to pretend this isn't a gender war when we see can see what's happening:Washington Post technology and culture columnist Taylor Lorenz screencapped Andreessen's tweet and shared it with her followers. This set off a chain reaction that elevated the terms "wordcel" and "shape rotator" into the mainstream, elevating an extremely online dichotomy into a confusing and terrible new front in our horrifying culture wars.
Much of America's culture war can be cynically flattened and viewed through the lens of these two words; "woke" wordcels live in the land of philosophy and books and liberal colleges, clinging to ideals espoused in their precious books, tweeting about Wordle, while shape rotators are out here coding, building businesses, doing engineering, etc. etc.
I think there's some taboo on admitting this but admitting it is the first step.
My degree was in games art, though I wasn't good at that subject and my sixth form tutor assumed I would study computer science but I didn't because I'm retarded. I was probably better at programming which I studied before then but I'm not good at maths and had a bad maths teacher for years (I learnt more in the few months in sixth form when I re-took GCSE maths then I did in high school, but ultimately it's still not my thing.) Now I mostly kill people and do other weird things in video games for YouTube... I don't know where that fits in but I don't think it does lol.
Some of us are bad at everything! I do think I'm more of a wordcel though overall.
Nick Land had something to say about the coming revenge of the nerds political thing back in 2014 (deleted that site now):
https://web.archive.org/web/20140329...-of-the-nerds/
It's worth noting that Nick Land is also a horror fiction writer lol and it often shows. I really liked the piece he wrote for his old blog about the mermaids. The girl was scared of mermaids and had mermaid paintings all over her walls and part of the fear was in wanting to be a mermaid and the ambiguity with being part Human and part fish. So great symbolically and applies to many people now with various things (reminds me of Jordan Peterson too with how he has communist paintings all over his walls,) but no can't get sidetracked.Increasingly, there are only two basic human types populating this planet. There are autistic nerds, who alone are capable of participating effectively in the advanced technological processes that characterize the emerging economy, and there is everybody else. For everybody else, this situation is uncomfortable. The nerds are steadily finding ways to do all the things ordinary and sub-ordinary people do, more efficiently and economically, by programming machines. Only the nerds have any understanding of how this works, and -- until generalized machine intelligences arrive to keep them company -- only they will.
The masses only know three things:
(a) They want the cool stuff the nerds are creating
(b) They don?t have anything much to offer in exchange for it
(c) They aren?t remotely happy about that
Politics across the spectrum is being pulled apart by the socio-economic fission. From Neo-Marxists to Neoreactionaries, there is a reasonably lucid understanding that nerd competence is the only economic resource that matters much anymore, while the swelling grievance of preponderant obsolescing humanity is an irresistible pander-magnet. What to do? Win over the nerds, and run the world (from the machinic back-end)? Or demagogue the masses, and ride its tsunami of resentment to political power? Either defend the nerds against the masses, or help the masses to put the nerds in their place. That?s the dilemma. Empty ?third-way? chatter can be expected, as always, but the real agenda will be Boolean, and insultingly easy to decode.
Look and it's unmistakable, everywhere. The asymmetry is especially notable.
For the autistic nerds, the social relations that matter are those among themselves -- the productive networks which are their model for final-phase human culture in general -- along with the ever more intricate connections they enter into with technological machines. From pretty much everybody else -- whether psycho-sadistic girls, or extractive mobs and tyrannical politicians -- they expect nothing except social torture, parasitism, and bullying, mixed up with some menial services that the machines of tomorrow will do better. Their tendency is to find a way to flee.
For the rest of humanity, exposed ever more clearly as a kind of needy detritus, bullying is all that's left. If they can't find a way to pocket the nerds? lunch-money, they won't be getting anything to eat. From this perspective, an escaping nerd is far more of an intolerable aggression than a policeman?s boot in the teeth. There's only one popular politics at the end of the road, and that's cage the nerds. Find a formulation for this which sounds both convincing and kinda-sorta reasonable, and the red carpet to power is rolled out before your feet.
Which is it going to be? Starve the masses or enslave the nerds? There's no way this doesn't get incredibly ugly.
From the Outside in perspective, the fast track to realism on all this is to stop pretending that anybody other than nerds has anything much to offer the future. (Completely devoid of autistic nerd competences ourselves, the detachment from which we speak is impeccable.) This harsh-realist short-cut eliminates all the time-wasting on ?special? things non-nerds can do ? which somehow always end up being closely related to the task of governance (and that, as we have seen, reduces ultimately to intimidating nerds). ?OK, you?re not a nerd, but you?re special.? We?ve all heard that before.
Even without being an autistic nerd, one can be gifted with some modest measure of intelligence ? enough in any case to realize: "History's shaping itself into some nightmarish nerd-revenge narrative." It doesn't even take an artificial super-intelligence to understand why that should be.
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...9;Culture_Wars'
I'm not sure it's a 'crisis of masculinity' research paper I just found. I think some people are just assholes.This paper is longform commentary and analysis of Angela Nagle's recent work Kill All Normies Online culture wars from 4chan and Tumblr to Trump and the alt-right. It explores the work's relevance to 'Extreme Masculinties', and places it within the context of the contemporary poltiical situation. The work's main thesis on the aesthetic and libidinal forms and characteristics of the 'Alt-Right' are heavily interrogated and placed within the historical context of previous 'crises' in masculinity. This analysis proceeds to further explore the existence of this contemporary crisis through the broader spectrum of identity politics, and its problematic ideological conflicts and consequences.
Nerds can be cute if they're not really egotistical. You know like everyone. Lol. I like musicians because they usually have positive nerd qualities with positive artistic qualities. And long hair. I mean musicians are usually creative and can be good at lyrics although in practice they're often not and I think that's because people who are good at making music are also usually good at maths. So they're not 'wordcels' but usually they find someone who is to write their lyrics or someone who can do both. Like Neil Peart wrote the lyrics for Rush because Geddy and Alex weren't interested in doing that but he's also a good drummer.
I guess Steven Wilson is pretty good at writing lyrics because I assume he wrote most of the later ones and they are good - interesting fictional concepts etc - but the early ones that were more fantastical and read like freewriting (you know my post before, I don't know why everyone's freewriting ends up similar it's freaky. I used to do that too so I know,) he didn't write those. I think. Unless he's lying because he's embarrassed by them which is a possibility but no I think he probably didn't.
I've been sidetracked though.
I don't... Think this is the answer I'm looking for.Emily is a living ignition weapon that was made by dissolving a person who could be dissolved and made into a ignition weapon. Emily is essentially a data bank that collects and stores information by answering and asking questions. Rachel use Emily to manipulate fate by feeding Emily information. You know that thing Zahard spent several tens of thousands of years learning how to do but just barely scratching the surface. Rachel does that using Emily but better in literally every way.
OK I think this term is almost exclusive to the political compass reddit, hasn't made it onto twitter at least. And it seems to be someone left wing essentially but beyond that hard to say.
Emily's commentary on interracial relationships.
[Some meme I can't be bothered to reupload since reddit is annoying and won't let you easily get image links]
[Essentially the meme is like the 'emily' character reacting to three people describe their racial preferences in partners and she's annoyed at a a guy who rejected a girl because he was dating someone else and she said it's because she's black, she reacts positively to a woman who says she only dates black guys and then reacts negatively to a guy saying he's into everyone because it's 'objectifying women' So basically this is a strawperson who doesn't exist. Or an insane person that barely exists.]"stop objectifying women!"
thinks porn is empowering
Peak orange double think.OK maybe that's the point I dunno.Nah its more like their two different schools of thought that can't agree with each other. There are sex positive and sex negative fememisits. Usually, it's not one person. But emily is an amalgamation of opposing social ideas.
Jesus, that's a lot of straw.
Yeah.I mean the whole Emily meme thing is just to [BEEP] on what they think people on the left side agree on, when in reality it's like a few thousand people on Twitter. A lot of people on Reddit and Twitter seek out content to be outraged by to make them feel better because of their moral higher ground or something.
Man this is dumb. So much of everything is like this now lol. The Human brain is so easily high-jacked. But if it wasn't entertaining people wouldn't be doing this.Listen here lefty, the whole reason the Emily meme and orange sub quadrant exist is because the rest of us decided it was in fact unfair to lump you and libleft in with the crazies.
What more could you possibly ask for?
I've not seen this person though. Or at least there's an implication that these ideas are contradictory but they aren't. The people who are hardcore against men sexualising anyone might also be anti-racist and have the opinion that people are bad for having racial preferences because they're discriminatory.
This isn't politically correct but whatever:
Personally I don't care if people have preferences. Though I think if someone is interested in expanding their preferences they could try consuming different media because that sort of worked for me? Though not really. I think I was always sort of into Asian guys and guys with similar physical traits like some Hispanic and Native American guys or some guys who are 'racially ambiguous' from childhood/early teen years because I remember certain films etc... Just wasn't paying attention to them as much since I live in the West where most guys in media are still white. During periods where I was consuming more Asian media I was more into Asian + Eurasian guys.
It's much more difficult/nearly impossible for me to find black guys attractive (there are a few I thought were sort of cute in my life but even then not intense attraction,) and that probably is partly because of the particular guys I've known and their attitudes + negative stereotypes in the media etc + the association with hyper masculinity as someone who's not into that. Which is why I'm quite sympathetic to left wing black guys I see complaining about that stereotype on YouTube etc. Even though that contradicts the general hysteria about male feminisation from men in general:
But it works the other way around too the guys who fit that masculine edgy stereotype appeal to women who like hypermasculinity and edgy criminal vibes. But overall I think since it also encourages this kind of edgy criminal stereotype in order to appeal to those women, which is bad for black people because it perpetuates the persona... I don't think it's a plus even though insecure white guys think it is.
You can compare the kind of image black guys had in the past vs in the 90s and later (though it's probably starting to get better again I dunno,) and it's quite different:
Such a good song though:
You can see some guys had a more flamboyant image in the 80s regardless of what the song lyrics were about (also Michael Jackson but probably not the best example at this point lol....)
And there are retarded guys on social media who say things like this:
As I said before first of all white guys have metal and various non sexual/romantic genres of music and genres that don't appeal to women as much and secondly it's incredibly limiting for black guys to only have that one image in music.You notice this in music too. You got Chris Brown with "These hoes ain't loyal", Kanye with "Golddigger", Wash with "Can't trust thots", and the whole genre of [gangsta] rap. Meanwhile white dudes are only writing sappy love songs begging for attention or talking in very blue pill ways.
All I can say is as someone who is attracted to guys it turned me off big time.
Oh and I don't think people's image and their music etc has to be attractive to me I'm not video game guy those mentailities are dumb. I also can't really criticise people for leaning into some kind of edgy stereotype since I've always leaned into the kind of edgy-goth-bisexualish-alternative-non-binary-demon-witch-white femme persona (even before anyone was out as non-binary.) And I also think it's probably fun for some people, and makes them feel empowered. Also not everything everyone does is to be attractive to other people. I get that too. You know nobody finds it attractive but you're compelled to be that way anyway - we've all been there. But if that's the conversation and you expect me to be attracted than I'm going to give you some pointers at least lol. I also think some people are becoming a bit deluded because of porn etc on what is and isn't attractive which is bad if they're doing things not because they want to but because they think it's attractive and then it's not even attractive.
I also don't expect everyone to be into everyone. It does suck when no one's attracted to you though and sometimes it's for shitty reasons and they actually are racist or transphobic etc like when they're physically attracted to you but then decide they don't like you because you use pronouns and they spend all their time complaining about trans people obviously these things are connected but I don't care because it's mutual. I wouldn't want to date someone like that as we would be incompatible obviously.
But in general I don't think that's a moral thing because I don't think people have infinite control over their own preferences. There are some things they can do, but it's probably limited. I still probably prefer white people overall.
With most things I think it's pointless to go after individuals you have to change the incentive structure.