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    I'm not gonna lie this is pretty hot (reading Aella's tweets again lol):

    society is slowly turning me into the porn joker
    the harder u try to shame me the more people i bang
    yea watch me go, in my own house bangin ppl i enjoy banging. watch me contribute to the downfall of society. having a great time, a week-long afterglow and affection for my sex partners. by talking about the things i enjoy publicly and without shame im gonna make rome burn
    maybe a society that can be sent into angry paroxysms by the fact that i dare to live without shame is a society that *should* burn
    maybe i *should* be a threat to your way of life and norms and everything you love. maybe your wives should be happier than they are, maybe they should be sluts too. maybe seeing me having a great time will make them envious. maybe you should have been better at fucking her.
    (then obviously I fell down several rabbit holes because one does not read tweets from certain accounts without doing that.)

    Also because I like to add musical references constantly this is the closest thing to a musical subtext/track for this post lol:



    This was a response to that or quoting part of it from someone else:

    i think we are experiencing a resurgence of repressive sexual values for a few reasons:

    [...]

    3. male sexuality still isn't very liberated. female sexuality has been liberated very hard in the USA. women, their faces & bodies, their sexuality, and their words are now celebrated and plastered EVERYWHERE in america (at least, in the mainstream). modern woman, who seems to be able to do no wrong, has been elevated to a kind of superwoman status.

    however, what are men?

    lame, macho (bad), toxic masculine, pathetic, sophomoric, lazy, childish, underdeveloped, "needs therapy". they are largely either just "regular guys", or awful. not many "good men" out there.

    that's my take. what's the solution?:

    instead of attacking women and trying to bring them "back down" to some previous level, we need a similar liberation kind of movement for males, in order to elevate them to superman status as well.
    We've been over this a miserable little pile of secrets.

    imagine exploring, talking about, and being open about male sexual fantasies, desires, and fetishes again (we used to be, let's bring it back. it's not zero sum or either/or in terms of male OR female sexuality being celebrated)

    imagine good looking & attractive men being as thirsted over as the hottest girls (already happening in some circles, look at male kpop)

    if this seems odd to you, i will just say that from the POV of a lot of males, we feel completely boxed in. not that we want to be more feminine or something, or that we wish we could cry but it's shamed, but that we feel like everything that we naturally are is wrong, and don't see a way to fully self-actualize into the hottest, most badass versions of ourselves, that isn't seen as a complete joke

    anyway, just my 2cents and one of my dreams. i've been working on ways to figure this out in a way.
    Yeah this relates to a post I was going to make yesterday but this forum was down. I can only think about my own sexuality which is atypical but I don't think most guys are in any way interested in being attractive to someone like me (and there are women with similar sexualities,) and even actively find my sexuality damaging to them in some way and I find their attempts to insist I should want to be with a stereotypically masculine guy annoying (was actually reading a quora thread where every comment was basically doing that when talking about how men have become more feminine or something,) and it just makes me think of conversion therapy so at a bit of a stalemate there.

    I also don't think most women are actually all that comfortable being sexually aggressive or talking about their sexual interests etc. When I was growing up teenage girls wouldn't even admit to maturbating and I'm 32 so not super young but it also wasn't that long ago. I live in the UK though which is an incredibly repressed country in general. Not the US.

    I don't know what they mean by talking about male fantasies/fetishes. You mean try to like them? Because that will never happen or vice versa in most cases (cause most people are horrified by sexualities that aren't compatible with their own,) but men are open enough online and it's not hard to find people talking about that stuff. I mean this isn't some new 'backlash to female sexuality.' It's been going on for thousands of years or longer but it's just more obvious with social media atm. Lots of women have always been disgusted by male sexuality and also engage in slut shaming behaviour with other women for competitive reasons (and because it works,) and many men are disgusted by promiscuous women because of their madonna/whore complex basically.

    So yeah this was the thing I was going to post lol (also something else tangentially related but yeah) I was reading the comments of this guy whose audio porn I 'use':

    Gosh, you really know what you're doing, don't you?

    That?s what I thought when I listened to this, this guy knows what he's doing.

    Good job !! It's nice of you to make these.
    Lol sometimes I stumble on someone and think the same thing like 'they really know how to appeal to that target audience.' Sometimes even if I'm not into them it's interesting in an 'academic' sense.

    In this case I personally find this guy's audios hot and notice he pays a lot of attention to audience feedback so it makes sense.

    For me though although that audio was really good cause I really like corruption (so have gone back to it multiple times,) it was actually this other one where he's playing a guy who does camming in the audio and he's seducing his shy roommate who watches his streams and there's pegging, he talks about the listener getting him pregnant, talks about how he'll think about them while doing streaming stuff, calls himself a [BEEP] after talking about wanting the listener to get him pregnant, calls himself a bunny. Then he's like 'this is much better than fucking myself for some guy named [random username.]' Not everything in that audio worked for me personally but it's impressive that he fit so many things I find hot and that are generally very niche and not popular into such a short space of time. Of course it's not that weird and mostly just the gender thing that makes it unusual but even so it's quite hard to find.

    Of course it helps that his voice is cute and sort of femme-ish too.

    Also he doesn't even do any of the patreon stuff other people on that level do (who probably include less of my kinks really,) like just has a ko-fi donation link which doesn't seem to work anymore it seems since I clicked on it. So basically he's really good and doing this for free. Like a public service.

    It's like that time before where I was listening to some other guy's audio and he just randomly mentioned he was wearing glasses and I was like 'omg how did you know?' actually two audios I found like that from different guys but in one it was just completely unnecessary for him to bring that up and not part of the plot. That's just a coincidence I know (and also lots of people are into glasses,) lol but still.

    And yeah when I was writing the above I was also thinking about how it is more impressive if guys seem to know what they're doing in this area because the idea of a guy making audio porn and then actually taking notes on how to improve is insane to me culturally. Like the vast majority of men don't seem to read erotica, fanfiction, or have any interest in genres that are popular with women. Unless it becomes big at the box office like 50 shades of grey which honestly wasn't porn and I've gone into my weird lens when thinking about that series before so not doing it again lol... (still never watched/read it.) But yeah basically men are very siloed and don't seem very good at figuring out how to appeal to women and perhaps that's 'by design' for evo-psych reasons who knows.

    The kind of posts I read online are essentially often from conservative guys and so it's sort of like they devalue anything feminine people are into (sexually, non sexually, just anything that doesn't overlap with their own interests,) they have no interest in being attractive according to any standards but their own and I'm not going to complain about that because it's the same for most people in modern society but then they also insist that you're lying if you're into stuff that goes against their ego ideal which is annoying as fuck. Even if they're right in general exceptions still exist. There's also the implication that you're damaging men by having the desires that you have. Destroying civilisation etc.

    Sometimes it just hits me. Why do I have to exist in this reality?

    My version of Aella's tweets is just like 'OK then bye *gets off to audio porn with submissive guys hours later.*'

    The other thing I was writing about. I shouldn't post this. Because it's cringe and tmi and technically I was saved from impulsively posting this. But then I read a bunch of quora posts accidentally while searching for something else yesterday and I'm honestly feeling like Aella but for entirely different reasons. Reading all of this stuff constantly.

    I'm glad/not glad we're seeing the exact same thing so I know I'm not alone in this cursed bubble/timeline but she also gets an insane amount of conservatives coming at her and part of that is because of the social circles she runs in. The upper middle class white intelligentsia are all fairly sex negative now (exaggeration OK.) But also kind of support men having harems or something adjacent - Elon Musk. Or at least overlook this. On the other hand it's very difficult to build a significant following online and not be hated regardless if you are deemed imperfect in anyway. Because of how social media works.

    But just the comments like this. It gets pretty insane and I notice them often:

    Maybe you should stop being a degenerate hole.
    If being a [BEEP] makes you happy you are so damaged and beyond repair.
    Also I disagree with her on a bunch of stuff. The reaction from a lot of people is still insane. But she does post a lot of controversial polls etc and I'm just immune to most of that. I also wouldn't really trust her 100% either (or anyone in that general circle,) but the people who disagree with her are more obnoxious.

    It seems like someone she was friends with was judging her or something inspiring a lot of tweets etc because she created some form for a gangbang for her birthday (pretty sure it's not the first time she's done this anyway lol.) This doesn't surprise me at all because I'm aware of the circles she runs in and what's been happening to them over the past several years. It's a very weird mix of people in a kind of transitory moral and cultural state. Also cult-adj. I used to talk on discord to some people who are part of that wider 'network.' Daily actually at one point. It's hard to label because there are kind of lots of vague overlapping groups. I guess 'post-rationalists.' Some people use the label 'tpot' for the people on twitter. TESCREAL. Whatever.

    I am a simple lurker, but there is a peculiar right wing/reactionary contingent in tpot, which some people just kinda ignore, and I feel like it's only a matter of time before that becomes uh?tricky
    Many such cases. It's much crazier than the TV show Silicon Valley honestly.

    It's funny that a repeated response to this is that they get these tweets every 3-6 months haha and yeah this one I stumbled on isn't the first one like this I've seen.

    Namely, there's a somewhat prominent anti-trans person and given how transphobia gives you brainworms,,, yeah
    Oh god. That is only the tip of the iceberg.

    i understand you may not have been around for a very long time but tpot basically grew out of neoreactionary intellectualism. the 'contingent' you're talking about have been around for years before the label of tpot even existed
    I think it grew out of the rationalist community and neoreaction grew out of the rationalist community as well. There's a very bizarre syncretism of all these ideas and groups. If Nazi femboys exist for real they're definitely part of that lol. Like consider this article I just found:

    https://americanmind.org/salvo/camp-...make-soft-men/

    I can't copy and paste all of it obviously but:

    This article is an observation about what's happening to men.
    It covers a mysterious event called Vibecamp, popular among the tech elite, that was held in June in rural Maryland. Lower in profile than its nearest analogue, the annual Burning Man festival, Vibecamp is probably also more revealing when it comes to a certain coterie of high-status but directionless males. I need to say clearly that this should not be read as a condemnation of Vibecamp or the people who participate in it. I spent less than 24 hours there before allowing myself to be led away.

    Plenty of think pieces lament lowering sperm counts, estrogenic microplastics, loneliness statistics, suicide rates, and atrophying vitality in the dating sphere. "What's the Matter With Men?" asks the New Yorker, "The Crisis of Men and Boys," shouts the New York Times, "Men are Lost," warns the Washington Post, "The Crisis Over American Men Is Really Code for Something Else," informs Politico, all while doing their level best to excise and alienate actual men, or at least the ones who try to act like men.

    Rarely is any reporting about men done on the ground. There are barely any straight male reporters left, and the few that remain are blindly left-wing, which is to say suspicious of and upset at boys being boys. We don?t actually see what alienated, porn-addicted, feminized men look like, or how exactly the angry high-T ones get excluded and undermined. To do so would give a face to a threat--rather like, God forbid, trying to understand other people?s wrongthink.
    This sucks because the ?50s-?80s greatness period of American magazine reporting essentially amounted to a protracted exploration of masculinity by and about odd, unstable, and difficult men. It mapped to the same greatness period in American film. Mailer, Thompson, and Wolfe were the Coppola, Kubrick, and Friedkin of words, painting naked male aggression as an indispensable and inescapable primal force. Even the gay ones, e.g., Capote, reported back the authentic details, good or bad, in their juiciest and most honest form.
    I?m on the way to Vibecamp: Burning Man for nerds. There will be 800 of them, mostly men, and seemingly more transsexuals than women. The celebrity prostitute Aella will excite them on stage with frank counterfactuals about Hitler. There will be frank discussions about HBD (human bio-diversity), and frank attempts to fight, dance, and exercise. There will be horrible food. Mushroom chocolates and ketamine will be the weapons of the day.
    He's part of TPOT. TPOT stands for This Part of Twitter, a designation covering the Rationalists and Effective Altruists who occupy the opposing horseshoe tong from the Dissident Right, a short but meaningful chasm between "people who care about others" and "people who care about beauty." Effective Altruists believe in extreme utilitarianism and the duty to maximize the good. They love to consider abstract calculations about the utility of starving Africa versus your morning latte. They?re drenched in therapy speak and feminized expressivism.
    OK I was skim reading this and bunny boy wasn't what I hoped just a guy with a bunny plushie.

    Several hours later, I?m drinking G&Ts and sweating and tweeting about going to Vibecamp. Bunny boy has graciously retracted the window shade so I can stare down. The fractal arteries of the Mid-Atlantic spread out below, the trees like little green broccolis. I love this part of the country. There's something American about it.
    The Neoreactionary cabin: a ring of bunks in a room, all but one of them full of us thought criminals, one errant Googler stuck in the last bed in the corner, next to mine. In its defense, Vibecamp does not discriminate on ideological bases--Rationalists necessarily do not believe in censorship because it undermines the fullness of information (hence the frank discussions of Hitler and HBD). On the application to attend, there was an option to select "based" as an adjective to describe yourself. I have to imagine, however, that this also came from the exiled original founder.
    Assuming the transsexual is a lefty/rationalist (he doesn?t really do much besides make occasional Gen Z noises and pop culture references), the group in the Jeep learns that we?re a perfectly divided foursome: two Vitalists (brainy post-right) two Rationalists (brainy post-left). The kid excitedly explains Yarvinism and I back him up, so the other two enter passive curiosity mode, retreating to short sighs of encouragement.
    On a plane on the way back, I sit next to two skinny, nerdy 20 something brunettes, a boy and a girl of almost identical pale, pimpled complexion, both with tight black masks on, the kind with additional inner white lining. They seem like they?re coming from Vibecamp, but I don?t know for sure. They don?t speak the entire flight. The second he sits down, the boy pulls out a Nintendo DS and starts playing, shoulders rigid, arms frozen at perfect right angles. He wears a black baseball cap that reads "Let the Fish Who Thinks He Knows No Fear Look Well Upon My Face,? an inside joke among fishermen and adopted by gamer nerds (it's in a Mountain Goats song). He's really clutching his DS, holding it awkwardly upright now, engrossed for hours. I wonder to myself, how long can he possibly hold the position without getting tired? Finally he slouches over, relaxes a bit, puts the game away. A relief I relax too. Maybe he's just ultra competitive, had to finish a level or something. But no. He reaches back down into his bag, digs around a bit, and pulls out his knitting.
    I love that this article just finishes there. Oh my god. HE PULLED OUT KNITTING NO.

    I'm definitely picturing this tbh:



    Also yeah there were lots of trans and non-binary people who came from my uni course and the other similar one too (related to game development,) it's weird how the pattern isn't just American. Also only one person was out as trans when I was at uni.

    Anyway I think she has mentioned before being somewhat aware of this but obviously not enough:

    idc honestly but you are too smart to feign surprise aella. you've built a life strategy on saying and doing what most people consider dumb/evil/etc. and you have your earthly rewards. you can't also act confused about why people dislike you!
    It's not feigned! In this case it was someone I thought was a friend. Very surprised.
    well then you still have a lot of updating to do. you should assume that, in the end, every single person will hate what you do with your life and your body, and it will be a miracle if there's one person who doesn't. if your rationality isn't strong enough to update on this now, and or your self-confidence is not strong enough to tolerate this likelihood, then you should have enough humility to reconsider the life you have chosen. I always thought that you knew exactly what you were doing, and were boldly prepared for the consequences, but if you are still genuinely surprised that someone hates what you?re doing with your life and body, then it seems that you?re really deeply miscalculating on the fundamentals.
    I was surprised that a friend does. Generally my friends are pretty accepting. I've been a sex worker for ten years, and the sex positive community is pretty great. Hence my surprise.
    Oh it's that guy? (Below.) Doesn't really surprise me because again seems to be part of that social milieu. Also at some point his wife blocked me without me interacting with her at all I guess because I've responded to some of his tweets before and she didn't like what I said lol. He hasn't blocked me though.

    no, the gangbang responses are not public. not sure why people would lie about that. i wonder what could possibly incentivize lying about this.
    Since you?re blocked, here?s a screenshot of him saying how it happened


    Didn't care to find out more but cared enough to tell everyone
    This has to be Aella-related
    No it's related to the guy who was just implicated
    oh no it was aella related

    or whatever

    who cares

    It's honestly this circle that made me realise how so many nerds are really just insufferable dickheads. And even my brother at one point expressed some dissatisfaction with certain types of people for similar reasons at one point a few years ago. I mean they're not all like that but there's this weird confluence of different subgroups and some of them are more sex-negative and 'pronatalist,' very judgmental. Etc.

    I randomly met her once (in a decidedly gangbangless context), and she seemed very nice. I don?t know what else to say about that whole situation.
    she is very nice i just wish everyone would grow up
    Apparently he posted this years ago:

    also cranky I wasn't invited to an orgy tho

    gonna just coffee and sulk
    this actually isn't relevant at all i just thought it was funny
    It is very funny.

    OK, wtf is happening in tpot?
    i issued a law
    Honestly this guy sounds like he's shitposting but he blocked her and it's impossible to know:

    none of this would have happened if you people stopped having casual sex

    im sorry but this is just good advice

    im declaring a sex ban

    if your married? sure. have sex with your spouse

    the rest of you cannot be trusted not to hurt yourself or others

    thats just how it is

    it was with good reason that our ancestors outlawed tomfoolery

    and be real

    we have no way of effectively policing it and never will

    if you want a "safe community" this is how we get it

    well: i have heard the cries of the People
    This actually went on for a bunch more tweets but only copied part of it.

    no one's more psyoped than the upper middle class and the real class war is being conducted against us by fading government organizations losing relevance and clout and trying to drag us down with them
    95% of weird lifestyle [BEEP] in the bay area is CIA driven and has been for more than half a century

    entire city is gitd
    Lol OK.

    Anyway (I wrote this yesterday. Haven't really read through it so will probably regret that at some point and I feel like it's also not thorough. This isn't talking about everything I'm into or have ever been into basically. I have this thing where if I start talking about something like this I want to include everything partly because because of some kind of completionist ocd-like thing with listing anything I like and things like that, but also partly because even if it's just a forum post on a half dead forum someone might potentially read it and if they can't form a complete accurate image of me then that might be misleading or lying almost and that's an incredibly insane way of thinking based on how insane the internet often is and also fairly narcissistic, but yeah):

    I've been contemplating what the common thread in a bunch of my fetishism interests is. Obviously some are entirely related but there are some that seem to follow similar patterns.

    Recently I found an audio thing where a guy is pretending he's been abducted and locked in this room where things are passed to him through some kind of hatch and then the listener is communicating with him using like a negative and affirmative beeping sound. Then he is basically conditioned gradually via this behaviour and an aphrodisiac put in his water into being a hypersexual 'camwhore' and starts to find the idea of tons of people watching him hot and does nothing but get off for others enjoyment.

    So it sometimes takes me a long while to get off but this is an example of something I can get off to very quickly I'd I want to (but edging I'd better.)

    Some other similar examples are guys being turned gay, women being turned into sex workers, men too really. I liked this line about a prince 'whoring himself out to common people' and he had this female Knight who his dad hired because he got robbed and he was teasing her about it and how he knew she was watching him. Then she forces him into having sex but he gets into it quickly. Too quickly to fit onto the theme I'm talking about where it's more gradual and starts with greater disgust.

    I like people being feminised (don't think it's enough on it's own though without sexual stuff happening alongside,) religious people being corrupted. I like straight to bisexual/lesbian conversion stuff but it's not as arousing.

    I was thinking again about the thing the transwoman was talking about with lesbian women or afab trans people being dominated by 'incel stereotype trans women' and converted to heterosexuality and trad roles and I think while that fantasy is unappealing some kind of lesbian feminisation thing which emphasises female/feminine power but with a femboy + intercourse/could be. Years ago I likes this audio where an all female goddess cult with cis women abducted this guy and pegged him and forced him to give head etc and then worship their goddess so that's the vibe so femdom basically.

    Although a lot of these fantasies involve reversing power dynamics from a cultural stereotype pov - I don't like lesbian to straight or gay male to straight (ignoring that some people think trans women count as straight they don't in my head even femboys are ambiguous) - some such as the abducted guy don't and I've also liked bimbofication stuff where guys are dominant probably mostly because of the sex acts (also have an impregnation fetish) Years ago I liked this audio where a guy gets kidnapped by an all female goddess cult of cis women and then he gets pegged etc and that's the kind of vibe. Femdom basically.

    Another thing I liked recently was an audio by the same person who made the goddess cult one years ago which is more based on the current culture war and this one I've used a lot over recent months. So it involves a soldier being feminised and turned into a sex slave be a female scientist I guess working for the rival army. It's implied their side are pretty much the pro-androgyny pro-feminine men side of the culture war when she says that he's the only soldier it worked on because the others believed their propaganda about men too much. It is however more malicious and a bit degrading then I personally like from a dom pov also not that into physical gender transformation really (though he kept his dick but adding breasts is irrelevant to me maybe even a slight turn off sometimes, yes I like breasts in the contexts I like them in lol not if someone is a transformed cis guy. Very particular,) but I'm not the target audience in the first place it's created for submissive guys lol.

    I often think about the time Jordan Peterson complained that 'you have a sex goddess in your head and she's possessed you and you're doing her bidding' which I find offensive given my Satanic tendencies because I am God. (Kind of.) We're all God. (I don't mean that seriously but also I kind of do. I mean I would never seriously adopt anything from Christianity cause it's like Slaanesh is right there but you get me. No nobody gets me that's part of the problem.) Political discourse now is so unbelievably fucked lol and ancient. Think we're a decade away from exorcisms coming back into fashion or something.



    We're going to talk about sex some today because that's all over the place. Desire, estrangement from, and fascination with sex today have to do with Freud?
    That sentence made me lol too.

    It has to do with what Freud observed and Freud was correct in that sex is a dominating force. Neitzsche said every drive attempts to philosophise in it's spirit. Brilliant aphorism. He was really something and when the world collapses into materialist atheism lets say it's highly likely that sex will arise as the dominant goddess? Likely goddess. It's likely on the feminine side more accurately if you think about it historically. Now did Freud bring that about? Partly because Freud made the case that there was no metaphysical reality there were biological realities and that the prime biological reality was that of sex and so he laid some of the groundwork for some of those metaphysical claims. But to speak in Freud's defense even though he believed that sex was a dominating force it isn't clear that he believed that it should be. Now if you pushed Freud and what he thought should be the pinnacle of the moral hierarchy he would say something like the ability to work and play.
    Pops into my head a lot lol. It's very entertaining to me.

    Also this is one of my special interests in general. I'm quite fascinated by everyone'satypical sexual stuff alongside my interest in androgyny. So it's as simple as undiagnosed autism I think.

    In an alternate universe where I was also a genius maybe I'd do something more useful like forensic psychology or something but it seems like a bad idea for a vaguely bisexual person (Spencer Reid, Harley Quinn.) Obviously TV and comics are reality.

    That video also reveals the sexual neuroticism and dislike of their own sexuality that a lot of men have. I mean most of the historical discourse about why women are evil is because they're seen as tempting them because they struggle with self control. All people have neuroticism about sex because Humans are fucking weird, but men seem more likely to have this kind of personal relationship with it. Rad fems just agree with them that male sexuality must be controlled lol. They have a complete lack of neuroticism about their own sexuality as predatory because the ideology supposes that only males can be predatory. Except whatever Germaine Greer was doing in her book about teenage boys lol.... Still no neuroticism/fear about that. And most people don't care that much about female teachers going after male students either for a similar reason.

    Radfems do share the general fear and disgust a lot of masculine people have with not wanting to be sexually submissive (it's a bit more than that obviously they've been dealing with like psychopathic and manosphere type guys for generations. It's not a coincidence that many early rad fems were ex-Christians. But to reduce it to one word - fear/dislike of being submissive yeah.) What's her name... Andrea Dworkin ended up marrying a guy who identified as gay before they got together.

    I find both of these viewpoints relatable because I find my own attraction damaging to other people (especially men I've worried about that more I think over the years because my general preference is for men not so much sexually but romantically I guess,) but I also dislike rightoid men (clearly lol. I'm going to keep calling them that too it describes a certain subset of right wing political manosphere people I come across often online. Not so much Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro who are just conservative.)

    I think a lot of lesbian women think that their fear that they are predatory is somehow unique to female gynephiles and because of the historical trend of painting gynephilic women as predatory which is so weird because no not in the modern era at least. Not every guy is a dudebro and men are also portrayed as being predatory.

    I think with cis men it's because they have to deal with much higher testosterone. I dunno whether trans men change to this way of thinking typically later. Some are so freaked out they just go off testosterone and become anti trans like one person who felt their sadistic impulses were out of control. (And seemed to assume that they didn't have those before taking testosterone. I'm uh very sceptical they had no idea because *gestures to my entire post* probably they just found certain thoughts more noticeable with random strangers compared to before. Because that never happens to me with random strangers on public transport or whatever.) Some commit sexual crimes, but obviously neither of those groups make up the majority of trans people who go on testosterone, and are not purely a response to going on testosterone since this doesn't happen most of the time. And at any rate trans men don't commit more crimes than cis men or trans women.

    I think it's important to note the sexuality of trans and cis women commiting crimes and of all people when doing research or posting statistics. Because I doubt purely androphilic trans women commit many crimes violent or otherwise but there are more gynephilic trans women. I think like 60% in some surveys. I think androphilic trans women might have a lower rate than even cis straight women if you remove prostitution (which trans women are often involved in.) I have seen some research which points in this direction but there is very little.

    My hypothesis for why this is is that firstly a lot of criminal behaviour is inspired by male competition which androphilic trans women are the most removed from (assuming they are purely androphilic results in research get messed up because of the gradations in sexuality.) Cis straight women are sexually fluid and compete with men more than androphilic trans women seem to in modern culture and straight trans women are less sexually fluid on average than cis straight women (but there are exceptions.) Cis lesbian and bisexual women have a higher crime and violent crime rate than cis straight women.

    Then this is further complicated by the fact that at least in some research bisexual women and men's crime rate is higher than lesbian women and straight men respectively (despite both being more gynephilic and presumably more involved in that competition.) I think that's because people with ambiguous identities have additional complications as I've said many times now lol. So yeah you see similar patterns in some research with mixed race and non-binary people having greater poverty, mental health issues, substance abuse issues, than mono groups they overlap with, which also contribute to criminal behaviour. I think this is often explained with 'bisexual and non-binary people aren't real and crazy' but then what's going on with biracial people you know? It seems like there's a pattern there with psychological identity that nobody's bothered to research yet.

    So another thing which overlaps with that competition is that I think most sexual crimes might be deviations from basic gynephilia and involve paraphilic interests that happen when people are poorly socialised and/or low status. In rare cases you get people who are androphilic and have similar fetishes that are usually directed at women but have been directed at men instead (like Jeffrey Dahmer,) but it seems to be some kind of androgynous fetish most of the time where the underlying tendency was probably originally part of gynephilia and they just start eroticising twinks or trans people or something. Sometimes this is more obvious than other times. I think even Jeffrey Dahmer often went after young guys but I don't know if it was exclusive.

    Cis straight men will potentially go after teenage boys, or anyone who looks sufficiently feminine or young if they're in an environment with no cis women like prison. Also in certain cultures where it's considered a social norm. I think this is because cis straight male sexuality eroticises both femininity and neoteny.

    It's obviously more complicated if you're a female gynephile or male androphile and definitely if you're bisexual... Because multiple sexualities are lumped together with different origins eg: a woman who just eroticises butch lesbians and trans men almost exclusively would probably consider herself to be a lesbian but her sexuality is most likely just a variation of androphilia with an exclusive genital preference there are some women with the same sexual preference but who are into cis guys and consider themselves to be straight. Likewise there are lesbian women who like feminine cis women and are also into femboys and straight men with the same sexuality. You could probably say most of these people are bisexual I guess. They often don't label themselves that way and I'm more interested in the underlying sexological phenomenon.

    Also being sexually aroused by femme women makes sense for all women according to some evo-psych theories like how women often live in groups while guys leave for various reasons and so they get bored and lonely and interact sexually and women who don't do that might be rejected or the alternative 'harem' thing where it helped women bond in that environment. There's also the possibility that traits that don't cause issues for one sex is just shared. So female gynephilia doesn't really cause issues especially since women are less assertive and socially dominant so it wasn't selected against. This is kind of backed up by how people don't seem to take it seriously at all unlike male androphilia which is considered threatening.

    There still seem to be lots of different sexual behaviours and desires with different origins and sometimes you can even have multiple at the same time. Like female gynephilic preferences alongside male gynephilic preferences (stereotypically speaking obviously. There are differences that these days people call 'male' and 'female' gaze.)

    But this is just my own hypothesis based on everything I've read and I'd like to see more research exploring this especially the part about gynephilia and male competition. The stuff about fetishes and 'base sexuality' is really complicated and it's really hard to get any kind of conclusion because of how complex Human sexuality is and trying to figure out the origin of certain fetishes etc is way more difficult than simply noting if there's a correlation between certain forms of competition and gynephilia in general and criminal behaviour.

    On the other hand in male + female relationships when domestic violence is initiated by just one person and not mutual it's usually the woman in the relationship. If we assume those women are straight (and they might not be, that would be interesting to research again.) This suggests that some violent behaviour is at least presently more common for women but taken less seriously because they are less physically strong.

    But there are other forms of violent and sexual criminal behaviour which is still much more common for men to commit but again gynephilic men. And even though gynephilic women have a greater rate of violence etc compared to androphilic people it's still lower than gynephilic men I believe. Except the violent crime rate among prisoners is equivalent. I don't know whether that includes sexual crimes or not.

    I love this song so much (imagine if I ever stayed on one topic):



    A good impression
    Of myself
    Not much to conceal
    I'm saying nothing
    But I'm saying
    Nothing with feel

    I simply am not here
    No way I...
    Shut up, be happy
    Stop whining, please


    I'm so sad that I only got to see Porcupine Tree live once. I've seen Steven Wilson live four times as well and they sometimes play Porcupine Tree songs live but still.

    It's the inefficient way people talk about this topic and the fact that it's become hugely influential in political discourse. They are focussing more on sex than sexuality and personality and I think that's a mistake.

    You know like how Greta Thunberg is with the environment and climate change? Yeah this is my version of that. Except I'm not very assertive and I'm not being pushed by the mainstream media which is good for everyone else probably lol.

    So back to me and my fetish(es) thing I like guys being turned into housewives maybe that's more intimate and romantic than sexual though. I liked something with a guy who was baking and then his wife has kitchen sex with him by touching him from behind. I like manual sex acts a lot. If I'm self inserting then I don't like stuff that emphasise or involves breasts. But if I can separate myself then I like breasts but it's easier visually than in fiction I've found for some weird reason. Also if it's a description like someone in a tight shirt that's fine, I've looked up photos of women with big breasts and bookmarked some photo of a woman with a t-shirt talking about her clit being pierced (ironically that was a trans woman and I don't think she'd had surgery but still hot t-shirt,) but as soon as someone starts playing with someone's breasts in a story or talking about it in audio I think about my own and dislike that. So that's weird because I don't do that with other sex acts necessarily even if the audio is talking to the listener (which it almost always is) I'm still often more voyeuristic.

    Also liked this like in a story I read a while ago where the woman asks if she can be some guy's housewife scientist though the overall story was more bimbofication themed I also have a thing about nerds so that combination was weirdly hot.

    Speaking of nerds I also like stuff where nerdy guys who are sexually unsuccessful dominate other people but I also like stuff where they're arrogant and get dominated by women. Nerds are traditionally low status but not really low status in modern society because our lives are kind of ruled by tech so that archetype exists in a weird ambiguous space.

    The thing with a bunch of these though is that I also have clothing fetishism that get incorporated into them so that would have to be separated too like women wearing miniskirts and no underwear, glasses and various other things. I like descriptions of what people are wearing. I have this image bookmarked of a woman in short shorts that are ripped and she has a legend of Zelda tattoo.

    because women aren't visual 😐

    Yes I am non-binary but everything I do is as a man and a woman. These are the rules my brain decided.

    So yeah the power dynamics are all over the place. I don't like people being made more masculine generally at least not sexually. Because that's seen as the default probably. There's a kind of power bottom 'oh this is your first time topping? Sort of dynamic which can be nice but again more in an affirming way then arousing. Someone becoming super jacked and shaving off their head does nothing for me. In both a fetish and everyday attraction sense but for a brief period as a teenager when my sexuality was a tad more diverse I liked the idea of people being g turned into super mutants from Fallout 3 against their will and used that as a sexual fantasy closest I've gotten to enjoying forced masc. Doesn't work for me now either. That's probably the most cis gay male fetish interest I ever had haha.

    Often have fantasy themed romantic and sexual interests especially as a teenager and would come up with them myself mostly I could actually get off to daydreams till some point in my 20s.. I find it kind of comical when people blame porn/erotica when I came up with such insane stuff on my own back in the day.

    I blame childhood cartoons since I was always fascinated by certain themes.

    I can't really figure out why some stuff works and some stuff doesn't even if it seems to fit the theme. What is the kind of core feature is what I'm wondering or is it just pure chaos?

    It feels like there's a pattern though that eludes me.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Lol I just realised something because of this (he's not calling himself an androphile now because he's 'transcended the sexuality' now but that's not the point or overly relevant to my post):

    Jack Donovan - a 42-year-old skinhead icon and right-wing extremist lived the gay life once. It was in the 1990s, after he left his parents blue-collar home in rural Pennsylvania to study fine art in New York, when he danced go-go in gay clubs, hung out with drag queens, and marched for gay pride. But then he dropped out, learned how to use tools and work as a manual laborer, studied MMA, and decided he wasn't gay just "an unrepentant masculinist."

    "I am not gay because the word gay connotes so much more than same-sex desire," Donovan announced, under a pseudonym, on the first page of 2006?s Androphilia: A Manifesto: Rejecting the Gay Identity, Reclaiming Masculinity (echoing, probably unintentionally, the speech Tony Kushner wrote for Roy Cohn in Angels in America). ?The word gay describes a whole cultural and political movement that promotes anti-male feminism, victim mentality, and leftist politics.? He appropriated a new term, androphile, to describe a man whose love of masculinity includes sex with other men.

    Gay men are remarkably prominent -- if not exactly abundant -- in the alt-right universe. Take the infamous Milo Yiannopoulos, who powered a meteoric rise and fall on the sheer cognitive dissonance between his flamboyant self-presentation and callous politics. (When Out magazine profiled Milo, the story's writer Chadwick Moore "came out as a conservative.") Or artist turned reporter Lucian Wintrich, who joined the White House press corps when Trump-cheering blog Gateway Pundit (edited by a gay man) received its first credential. But even those men seem relatively mainstream when you compare them with Donovan, who has contributed to "dapper white nationalist" (and friend) Richard Spencer?s journal, advocates for a form of "anarcho-fascism," and founded a chapter of a masculinist "tribe" called the Wolves of Vinland, which the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies as a hate group. (One member recently served time for burning down a historically black church.) Which makes sense when he shows me photos from their neopagan fight-club rituals, which sometimes involve nooses.
    "So are you a Nazi skinhead manual laborer Khorne fight club gay (American,) or a Clive Barker The priest (Pinhead,) BDSM club Slaanesh Throbbing Gristle androgynous gay (British.)"

    Of course 40k is British as a whole but still.

    Milo and Katie Hopkins kind of bridge the gap. Yes Katie Hopkins.

    What is this suit:



    Like a Disney villain. Literally genetically female Milo. Or vice versa. OK not literally literally although... I haven't seen a DNA test.

    Also I guess there's "Does crafts and buys a cardigan and runs off to live in the country gay. Definitely owns a cat." Who are either 30+ year old gay men or lesbian women.

    And Patrick Bateman + Peter Thiel etc.

    My friend just sent me this lol:

    Apparently some US politicians are angry about Green Day bringing politics into their music 🙄
    Is it 2005 again already?



    Best concert of my life. Although it's a close tie with the ending of the Porcupine Tree concert.

    American Idiot was never my favourite song though.

    I was in that crowd. My first ever gig, 15 years old, full of angst and loving every fucking minute of it. One of my best memories.
    Hah same but I was 14. Well I was at one of the two dates (there were two there back to back,) and they recorded both of them so it's hard to know which footage is from which.

    Is it kind of old news to write song lyrics about Trump? Yes write about twitter fascists etc. Is it annoying a lot of really annoying people? Yes.

    Cancels itself out.

    I bet they don't even know about this song:



    Started at the age of four
    My mother went to the grocery store
    Went sneaking through her bedroom door
    To find something in a size four

    Sugar and spice and everything nice wasn't made for only girls
    GI Joe in panty hose
    Is making room for the one and only

    King for a day, princess by dawn
    King for a day in a leather thong
    King for a day, princess by dawn

    Just wait 'til all the guys get a load of me
    My daddy threw me in therapy
    He thinks I'm not a real man
    Who put the drag in the drag queen?
    Don't knock it until you've tried it


    Musk accused the band of going "from raging against the machine to milquetoastedly raging for it."
    You mean to say they had really transparent values the entire time and weren't just mindlessly raging and being contrarian for the sake of it? Who would have thought?

    I get it must be confusing for Musk he switches from Democrats to Republicans depending on who likes him more and whether his teenage kid comes out as trans and disowns him lol.

    Also the democrat and Republican parties are both useless when it comes to most things except one party is less anti-trans and not in favour of outlawing abortion.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Quote Grimes
    I'm called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great
    No you're not a working class man. You are called a Nazi because you hang out with post-rationalists who are into HBD, IQ, eugenics etc.

    Quote Grimes
    I'm so gay I'm utterly cancelled by the gay community for my deep unrelenting love of aircraft because my deepest truth is that I am a middle aged white man. Ill "come out" whenever this become tolerable to the gay community but l don't rly believe in gender or orientation or anything like that if I'm being honest. Being alive and loving humans seems fine to me
    Well you're still not working class.

    are you coming out
    I actually don't think she could come out if she wanted to anyway because of her ingroup and the image she's trying to project + the power and influence she's trying to keep.

    i wasn't paying attention when everyone was dunking on this tweet earlier and figured it was just some red scare adjacent gay guy but the fact that it?s from grimes makes it funnier (worse)
    Actually this tweet makes it funnier.

    i called it,,,

    What is happening. Also CYRUS DIDN'T BUILD THE FIRST EMPIRE


    I dunno. I'm just here because as I said:

    Oh wait I removed that part of my other post. Well the general chaos of everything is better than TV most of the time. Especially the part where the Russian government dislikes The Sims and wants to make their own life simulation game now. I'm pretty proud to have been a small part of that big picture.



    Lol. She knows how to manipulate twitter I'll give her that.

    [QUOTE]

    I haven't looked into Cyrus the Great but I think someone annoying on twitter has an avatar of that guy which doesn't automatically endear him to me.

    I like that Murasaki Shikibu sort of invented bishounen characters. But only really in fiction.

    The problem is that the idea of whiteness is a social construct created to and popularised for the purpose of upholding racist hierarchy. So when you say you "appreciate white culture" people are going to reasonably assume you're being racist.
    I think that's fair. There are many European cultures. White culture isn't really a thing.

    Then what culture is a white person whose family has been in the US for seven generations and has a mix of European background? If you believe there is an American black culture then you can't say there isn't an American white culture
    American culture. But Americans don't have much of a culture. That's part of your problem I suppose.

    when you take pride in "white culture", how much of it is "white" as opposed to "german" or "italian" or "british" or "american"?

    if fairly little, then why is it "white" that makes you proud?
    Would you deconstruct nonWhite countries this way? No? Then cut the crap.
    Obviously. When people are incapable of doing that it's only because they have a really limited cultural knowledge of many countries. China and Thailand are very different. Even China and Japan are very different.

    What is the white culture?
    Greece
    *exhales slowly*

    If you try to define white as a culture without resorting to stuff that's based on various European countries or Christianity (which didn't even start off as a European religion,) what you're left with is a bunch of really bland nothing from the 20th century and North America. Ugg boots and pumpkin spice latte, being a skinhead, posting about how white people are an endangered species and complaining about hair dye and Jewish people on social media. That's it off the top of my head.

    Wow what an amazing culture you have. I think I'll be a white European instead. There is literally more substance to being a goth (the subculture,) then white.

    You might want to stop complaining about hair dye and genderfluid people and Jewish people too because this is the best thing that ever happened to your people:



    Who can forget the great Cyrus, king of the browns
    Yeah.

    Hilarious.

    I think this person is confusing Sargon with Cyrus
    I like how Sargon worshipped an androgynous sky goddess who changed people's sex. Not even chthonic.

    Am I interested in throwing a bone to the people who obsess about white culture like it's important? No actually. It's a physical phenotype. Clearly your bland materialist US culture isn't working for you. But you have deserts with cacti - do you know how important that is? There are no cacti in the Sahara because of the low water availability. So unless someone plants some in a garden or something it's just an endless sea of sand when you head away from civilisation. Like being in the middle of the ocean. Not a vibe imo.



    "Oh good a desert planet completely devoid of life. [...] Why would we pick anything else? We have everything we need here all this sand and bones. Hey let's see what's over this dune. Oh look. Sand."

    And you have some weird stories about aliens and TOOL. There you go a culture + religion.



    Canadians you have (among other things,) Rush, 2023's sexiest man of the year according to me (1970s-early 1980s Geddy Lee,) and a cool flag so what more do you want? Most flags are just [BEEP] imo. Not a big fan of flags but this is pretty good as flags go:



    Much better than the UK, English, Scottish and Northern Irish flags. Not the Welsh flag though. That has a dragon on it. And I don't like how it looks but it's a fucking dragon so.

    As for Europeans doing this. Why? Is it because you have a raceplay cuckold fetish? I bet you have a raceplay cuckold fetish.

    It's their complete lack of creativity and magical thinking that leads them to do this.

    You are not from there, you cannot speak the language nor have any ties to the traditions of the Greek; that is what culture entails. You people are patriots, celebrate the 4th of July and bastardise a few European traditions that you like. That?s your white culture, lol.
    You are making it worse. I'm telling you it's all about the cacti and aliens. Which makes sense because culture is supposed to be built around landscapes and some kind of magical story and since you kind of decimated the native culture you now have to start over and you can't really cut corners.

    Honestly Twilight is better than whatever you guys are doing.

    New Orleans is also a more interesting melting pot.

    But the alien thing is the most racially neutral. So you should lean into that.

    Also I was talking about aliens yesterday and then right after noticed my Windows start bar had a whole alien thing going on which was... Weird timing.

    For those binge-watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy this holiday season:

    Which character makes you feel the most moral disgust?

    Gollum
    Grima Wormtongue
    Denethor, of Gondor
    Other/Just show results
    This post is already closed? They tweeted this like 2 days ago.... Denethor. Slightly more people voted for Wormtongue though.

    Saruman engages in the greatest betrayal in the Third Age. Denethor isn't a villain in the books. Just loses hope. Also prefer a son who isn't like himself to one who is.
    Yeah I suppose. But we're also talking about the movies and I've found myself comparing real people to movie Denethor more often over the years than any other character.

    I also really like that Goya painting (Saturn Devouring His Son.) Has a similar but more powerful impact.
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    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Consciousness has no mass. It's without an edge - infinite - void.

    My New Years resolution is to play guitar every day. I need to find new songs to play too. I learned how to play by playing along to 311 songs. I didn't really like their newer albums, so I never learned those songs. From Music to Don't Tread On Me, I know how to play most of their songs. I listen to a lot of unknown/indie stuff that nobody makes tabs of so I can never learn those. I suck at figuring out songs, so yeah. Maybe I'm not a lost talent after all. Depression took away my desire for playing away. I miss that passion from when I first started playing. I would throw on a CD and play along to the whole albums. I even had a 311 DVD: 311 Day in New Orleans. I would play along to that too.

    I wonder what having a normal brain would be like.
    "When I know that I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I know that I am everything, that is love. Between the two my life moves." - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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    I miss pre-Elon Musk Twitter. It was like being in a living room with live reactions from everyone, it was so fun during sporting events or when something big was going on. Now it's way too toxic to use.

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    Uh this post is all very controversial.

    This colour scheme and the key and everything is so confusing. I spent ages figuring things out.



    Cause I assumed non-binary was divided into afab and amab and then they might use the same colour for trans men for afab non-binary people given the 'male non-binary' and 'female non-binary' thing in a follow up comment. Doing this doesn't necessarily make sense sexologically though in fact not separating by sexuality doesn't make sense sexologically. But then also the key just uses man and woman. So then is 'man' amab non-binary people in this chart? Which is the same colour as for trans men?

    This description helped a little:

    Interestingly, cis, gay males, and transwomen reported the lowest rates of pedophilia (transwomen at lower rates than cis men!). Bisexual and nonbinary males reported the highest rates.
    Whereas transmen had the highest rates compared to enby females.
    It's interesting that AMABs have the highest 3, and of the AFABs it's transmen who come in 4th 🤔
    Is that second chart actually classifying by birth sex? Surprising that in both cases enbies are an extreme rather than being in the middle.
    The effect is very confusing. There's also a lot of non-binary people with similar sexualities to trans men. I really think you have to seperate by sexual orientation as well as gender.

    In my data, everything weird correlates with each other. Trans, poly, queer, mental health, bmi - all abnormality correlates with greater fetishism across the board.

    So yeah, all these things also correlate with increased interest in pedophilia.
    I don't really get the non-binary results then. Afab non-binary is lower than even for cis women which seems sus to me. Unless the cis woman sample was less straight.

    But I feel like her other surveys picked up on something sort of similar with [BEEP] women and non-binary people (moreso [BEEP] women from what I remember in the other survey,) where there seemed to be some emphasis on picking options that were the opposite of what straight guys would pick. And again straight women were more masculine. Which I think is honestly ideological and on purpose. And it's also not found by a lot of other research.

    On the other hand though there are a bunch of asexual non-binary people and maybe there were just more people adj to that in this sample.

    Also another thing is some afab non-binary people unfortunately look very young if they don't go on testosterone. Actually a lot of trans guys do too before transition. There's some kind of phenotype this doctor picked up on. For some reason he decided to put it all in fantasy terms which is... A choice I guess. I mean I'm not saying I didn't internalise this from culture somehow as well....

    I mean, we all kind of subconsciously know this right? How many pre-HRT FTMs do you see that look like fucking Barbie? Almost zero. The overwhelming majority of them fall into two categories. What I call "pixie" type transgender men, who are about 4'10 to 5'3 and never really weigh more than 125 lb. They show up with short cropped hair and sort of have the look of an effeminate teenage boy. They often look younger than their stated age. They are usually attracted more to women with some degree of bisexual leaning, and after starting HRT, they generally become gay trans men. I often state that they were gay before and they are gay after. They rarely have abnormal androgens.
    which might attract people again who are into teenage boys but this survey was about prepubescent kids and I don't think most adult females look within that age range so probably not relevant here.

    Also not a fan of this or being infantilised.

    Creepily accurate again...

    Edit: If you've been linked to this thread because you have one or more of the below things or they are common in your family, you might have a new syndrome that we are coining "Meyer-Powers" syndrome. If you do, you may benefit from treatment of it, which is discussed in the linked article.

    **Elevated Serum Homocysteine Levels, ADHD, Autism Spectrum Disorder, Hypermobile joints (often also have flat feet), "Fibromyalgia" (I hate this diagnosis name but basically unexplained pain issues) Hashimoto's thyroiditis, IBS / Inflammatory GI issues, Queerness (gender or sexual orientation), migraine headache (mostly XX humans). Non-gender normative behavior, Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia (hormonal disruption, hirsutism, or passing out when standing up / "POTS", high resting heart rate, poor stress tolerance), PTSD, Bipolar/Schizo/depression (burnout type), Generalized Anxiety, Eczema, Severe acne in natal females (PCOS), Mast Cell Issues / Allergies, Myopia (negative glasses prescription), Increased Intelligence, Genetic mutations in MTHFR or MTR/R, Irritable Bladder or IC (acidic urine typically, gets up a lot at night to urinate), Spider veins (especially at the base of the neck posteriorly/upper back as well as "cherry hemangiomas". "Translucent" skin with easily visible vasculature.

    In terms of body habitus, the skinny low muscular ones tend to look like LOTR elves. They have high angular facial features and even somewhat look like a pointed ear. The lesbians that come out as transgender men that look like little pixies, they start on testosterone and suddenly become gay transgender men are this type 1 phenotype, the tall spindly 6'4 transgender woman with no muscle mass will have an absolutely enormous Adam's apple, and significantly above average length penis is the same variant but in MTF.

    The stocky, thick, large breasted, big butted humans that look like they have a lot of cortisol circulating tend to look almost like dwarves from LOTR. Wider more round faces. This is a different subtype, and the lesbians that come out as FTM in this subtype remain attracted to women. Additionally they end up with better vocal development related to slowly transitioning on their own with elevated androgens throughout their life prior to starting full FTM HRT. The gay men of this subtype that have the elevated DHT end up having an early puberty, have a short, thicker penis, are short in height, Have male pattern baldness, and basically look like Burl Ives. They often have a very brassy voice that sounds similar in timbre to many transgender men who were started on testosterone too rapidly and end up ossifying their larynx before normal vocal development can occur (which creates that brassy transgender man voice that makes them sound like a gay man). You can replicate this voice style by compressing your larynx while you speak and you'll understand what I mean.
    Personality effects: Interest in fantasy worlds / gaming, "Nerd culture" (Star trek/wars/Dr who) Otakus/Anime, Ren Faire, Non-traditional relationship structures, BDSM interest. ( I think all of this personality stuff is related to these people being faintly dissociated all the time, often related to VDR/COMT/MAO mutations amplified by MTHFR defects.) Thus, the idea of "other realities" is quite easy for their brains to accept, hence the interest in these common topics.

    The exception of this is the autism, which I suspect is related to perinatal estradiol levels which are effectively driven by maternal reactions to heavy folate supplementation in prenatal vitamins affecting women with MTHFR deficiencies different than other cisgender women. In short, the reason for autism is the same reason for being transgender but they are not directly genetically linked. They are both an effect caused by underlying hormonal enzyme mutations or perinatal hormonal disruption.
    Uh I recently went back to reading Star Trek fanfiction lol......

    See my recent post on this which is my theory of why autism has become so prevalent since 1991 and the direct association between autism and increasing perinatal folic acid use as well as the complete inverse proportionality between spina bifida rates and autism rates in the entire world.
    Is it not partly increased rate of diagnoses though? And also I think there are certain things about modern culture which might mean it's being selected for. Eg: tech is very high status atm.

    Dr. Powers' crazy conjecture on the cause of Autism Spectrum Disorder (and possibly dysphoria/queerness). Guess what, its folic acid too.

    EDIT: I am aware this may sound like lunacy on a first read, so I have added published sources to the bottom that each support pieces of this theory, but not the entire theory itself. Feel free to read those first if you want some base knowledge.


    PS: I DO NOT ADVISE NOT GIVING FOLIC ACID AS A PRENATAL VITAMIN OR DURING PREGNANCY DUE TO THIS TOTALLY UNPROVEN CONJECTURE. I STILL GIVE IT TO ALL PREGNANT PATIENTS IN THE PRACTICE AS WELL AS ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BECOME PREGNANT.
    Oh good lol.

    I mean I hadn't made connections with a bunch of the stuff listed and yet a bunch of these things do run in my family even when I'm not personally affected like migraines don't have those but my mum struggled with them in her 40s and my brother has struggled with them over the past couple of years or so, and can think of other anecdotal people like that too... Also my dad has IBS and digestive issues (I believe these generally run in families with anxiety disorders...? Feel like I read something about that before,) last time I went to the doctors they pointed out I had a high resting heart rate (but you know doctors freak me out and my generalised anxiety was really bad during that period.) ADHD and autistic traits in me and also in my family members, and anxiety disorders, fantasy interests and I know more generally software dev + game dev backgrounds + other creative fields etc are associated because several people I went to uni with came out as trans but they were all amab I was the only afab person. My brother has also known a bunch of amab but not afab trans people. A bunch of this is probably fairly generic though as well. Also other stuff I'm feeling lazy and not going through everything listed one by one.

    I'm really not intelligent though lol and I'm a bit mentally slow I think.

    And some of this stuff isn't just in Western culture now it's a historical role thing so I wouldn't put it all down to anything recent because there's historical evidence of a lot of it this going further back like hundreds of years.

    Not everyone who has the syndrome will have all aspects of it. But many people have multiple things. I myself have many of the things and I also have the same genetic mutations in MTHFR and MTR/R but no gender issues. My dad has hashimoto's and aromatase excess and both parents gave me MTHFR variants.

    In short, these methylation based genetic mutations act as a magnifying glass on already underlying mild mutations which otherwise might have been clinically silent.

    Lastly the other areas in which we often see abnormalities are in the COMT, MAO, VDR, SHMT, CBS, BHMT and AHCY genes which also add to the overall neuroinflammation / generalized inflammatory picture.

    Oh and APOE4 variant appears a ton too.
    i fit into type 1 and i am bisexual as well. however i have a large preference for feminine people.

    POTS/massive need for salt IBS ridiculously tired when stressed STEM career hyper fixations on nerdy [BEEP] undiagnosed ADHD (i've learned coping mechanisms to compensate in educational/professional setting.) probably a little over average intelligence? i don't really have to try at most of my classes and A's or B's come very easy to me.

    my mother had lupus and eczema. i, too, had eczema flares but they went away when i started MTF HRT.

    i've noticed a massive QOL increase when i stick to an "anti-inflammatory" diet

    this is wild. thanks for your work.

    You know what's really interesting about you?

    You have this intriguing habit of being right. (And admitting when you don't yet have something worked out to your satisfaction.)

    And, caring.

    And, liking cats, especially interesting cats.


    If you'll excuse me, I'm headed for the vitamin section.
    Whoever this is sounds like me shitposting. I'm scared.

    ... But anyway. (Back to the pedophilia survey :') )

    Bi men are more pedophilic than gay men, but gay women are more pedophilic than bi women?? Weird.
    Bi women have some cultural overlap with (certain subgroups) of gay men and often seem to hang out together? That's all I've got. Or... It seems like there's a certain kind of sexuality that gynephiles have (not true ambiphiles,) where they're attracted to neoteny more and so men sometimes id as bisexual because they're attracted to women and teen boys this is prepubescent boys though which I guess is an extreme form. Would the equivalent group of lesbians not also id as bisexual though? Well I guess they might but since there are more women who id as bisexual that group wouldn't make up most bisexual women. It's probably that honestly.

    It's also weird because of this:

    Out of the ~600k responses to my survey, 8,962 people indicated sexual interest in children.
    Some findings:
    The mental illness most associated with pedophilia among males was schizophrenia (3x increase). For females, it was sociopathy (7.5x increase)
    1/
    Because other research finds this:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...91886921004177

    Research on the Dark Triad traits?psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and narcissism?reveals malevolent, transgressive, and self-centered aspects of personality. Little is known about the Dark Triad traits in individuals differing in sexual orientation, with some studies showing that non-heterosexual individuals have Dark Triad profiles resembling those of opposite-sex heterosexual individuals. In a cross-national sample (N = 4063; 1507 men, 2556 women; Mage = 24.78, SDage = 7.55; 90.58% heterosexual, 5.74% bisexual, 2.83% homosexual) collected online via student and snowball sampling, we found in sex-aggregated analyses that bisexuals and homosexuals were more Machiavellian than heterosexuals. Bisexuals were more psychopathic and narcissistic than heterosexuals. The only significant findings in within-sex comparisons showed that self-identified bisexual women scored higher on all Dark Triad traits than heterosexual women. The findings support the gender shift hypothesis of same-sex sexual attraction in bisexual women, but not in lesbians nor in men. The finding that bisexuals are the sexual orientation group with the most pronounced Dark Triad profiles is opposite to what would be predicted by the prosociality hypothesis of same-sex sexual attraction. The life history and minority stress implications of these findings are discussed as alternative hypotheses to the gender shift hypothesis.
    https://www.psypost.org/2018/03/bise...c-traits-50847

    Women who are not entirely straight or gay tend to have slightly higher levels of psychopathic traits and a more casual attitude towards sex, according to new research published in the journal Evolutionary Psychological Science. The study also provides more evidence that bisexuality is a distinct sexual orientation in women.

    ?I was mainly interested in this topic because certain patterns seemed to be accruing in the academic literature regarding bisexual individuals, and bisexual women in particular. Bisexual women differ in some important ways??such as personality, sex drive, and relative openness to casual sex??from both their heterosexual and their lesbian counterparts,? said Scott W. Semenyna of University of Lethbridge, the corresponding author of the study.
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    My friend just sent me this lol:

    Apparently some US politicians are angry about Green Day bringing politics into their music 🙄
    Is it 2005 again already?



    Best concert of my life. Although it's a close tie with the ending of the Porcupine Tree concert.

    American Idiot was never my favourite song though.

    I was in that crowd. My first ever gig, 15 years old, full of angst and loving every fucking minute of it. One of my best memories.
    Hah same but I was 14. Well I was at one of the two dates (there were two there back to back,) and they recorded both of them so it's hard to know which footage is from which.
    I've said this before probably but I think Insomniac is very underrated as a Green Day album. Also had the best album art.





    They were very important to me in high school and got me through a lot of hard times.

    Uh I expect conservatives to hate on them and any republican voters for obvious reasons. But the weird revisionism as though they didn't grow out of the bay area punk scene and the associated culture is dumb.

    If you took 90s Green Day and transported them today you'd call them woke but they wouldn't survive metoo either because they had dyed hair and the lead singer identifies as bisexual. They kiss each other on stage. There's one song where the lead singer masturbates (not in a way where he's exposed but in a way where it was very obvious to me what he was doing when I was 14 and I also wrote and read erotica about the band at the time.) They have songs about drag queens and cross dressing including in early childhood and songs about BDSM and masturbating and drugs and feminism.

    Some groups and individuals that try to self-identify as being a part of the punk subculture hold pro-Nazi or Fascist views, however, these Nazi/Fascist groups are rejected by almost all of the punk subculture. The belief that such views are opposed to the original ethos of the punk subculture, and its history, has led to internal conflicts and an active push against such views being considered part of punk subculture at all. Two examples of this are an incident during the 2016 American Music Awards, where the band Green Day chanted anti-racist and anti-fascist messages,[21] and an incident at a show by the Dropkick Murphys, when bassist and singer Ken Casey tackled an individual for giving a Nazi-style salute and later stated that Nazis are not welcome at a Dropkick Murphys show. Band member Tim Brennan later reaffirmed this sentiment.[22] The song "Nazi Punks [BEEP] Off" by hardcore punk band Dead Kennedys is a standout example.[23]
    A lot of well meaning people will promote open thought and acceptance of everyone because they're high in openness and they'll try to find ways to integrate people with radically fringe views including members of the far right. However whenever you do that the following problem occurs and defeats the purpose. And if you've never had certain experiences - or for some reason you haven't been online at all over the past 10 years because there's plenty of examples around - you might not understand why people are defensive.



    saw a locked mutual say this and it seems worthy of asking

    can someone explain why so many big tech tranhumanist characters are anti-trans? it seems a baffling case of contradictory doublethink. is it just leftover brainworms from their rw/fake libertarian phase?
    "if nature is unjust, change nature."
    "okay"
    "wait not in THAT way!"
    there's a growing overlap in the influential tech-progressive community with the neo-trad movement. I get a close-up look cause I'm a sex worker; I'm the one that gets barred from certain social groups because of my 'degeneracy', while others don't notice it's happening
    I've noticed this too. It leads to super weird places - people claiming to be trans humanists but are anti trans. Or people who say they are pronatalist but are against surrogacy or even IVF
    The 'pronatalists' who are against artificial wombs are another example.

    yeah but why tf is there such an overlap?

    on one hand, you have super scifi transhumanist tech, cyborg stuff, bio engineering, and other stuff looming behind the horizon

    and then, traditional, old school, essentialist, conservative, religion-based wonders

    makes no sense at all
    Nothing presses my "look, you can do whatever you want over on your lawn but get the hell off mine" button quite like the neo-trad movement.
    It's really awkward being a fringe member because I'm like 97% sure it's memetic but I'm insulated. It just makes no ideological sense, aside from it also being very not poggers.
    lol poggers but that seems to be the case.

    i grew up in an actually-really-trad culture; I thought women shouldn?t be allowed to vote, the expectation for my future was to definitely become a housewife, women weren?t allowed to hold religious authority over men, wives were explicitly expected to submit to husbands 1/

    I was told women were emotional, worse at leading, couldn?t make hard decisions. I was expected to go to college to find a husband (better than our friends, whose 22yo daughter was still at home cause she wasn?t allowed to be outside the physical headship of a man) 2/

    I had to be told I had a vagina, and only was told because I was going to start bleeding soon. I wasn?t told what sex was. I was forbidden from holding hands with a crush at age 16 (which I obeyed). I was expected to have my first kiss at the wedding altar. 3/

    Sex with your husband was considered to be your duty. If a husband cheated this was bad, but also a side eye was given to the wife - did she uphold her side of the sex bargain? My mom told me she had sex *every day* for *decades* because of duty, not pleasure. 4/

    I internalized this so much that it took me years to start processing that I could have actual sexual desire that contradicted the man i was with; once I banged a guy where the penetration really hurt, and I hid that anything was wrong at all because sex wasn?t ?for me.? 5/
    I started secretly masturbating at age 14 and felt real guilty. I tried to research how much of a sin it was, to figure out how to handle my urges without committing lust. Every single resource I found was for boys; I couldn't find a single thing about female masturbation. 6/
    I am absolutely down for discussions about the downsides of progressive sex culture. I'd love to figure out how to mitigate it, to make people not feel pressured, to support and protect the role of wives and mothers. I think this is important and good. 16

    But as soon as it carries a hint of that old oppression, I'm out. I know exactly how they used to justify the bad, that sense of moral superiority. Your ability to enjoy finger-shaking from this trad [BEEP] is born out of privilege of never having to go through what I did. 17/
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    I'm reading more posts on that doctor's subreddit and he just went off on a long rant about transmedicalist crap and blaming some afab people who use certain pronouns for the culture war backlash which is quite misogynistic. He's just regurgitating misogynistic rhetoric about some trans masc people. But tbh his description sounded kind of like he was complaining about people who post lots of images of themselves + online sex workers which was telling lol he highlighted people who 'have their tits out on social media.' It's the same energy as dismissing bisexual women which of course a lot of them are anyway or otherwise [BEEP] even if you don't believe they are actually trans in any way but he calls them spicy straight. It's also pretty unprofessional but a lot of what he posts comes across that way anyway like referring to trans guys as 'tinkerbell' etc. I think he's autistic so he's saying stupid [BEEP] a lot. But like people are pretty desperate and the bar is in hell. I think he has a lot of interesting insights but yeah fucking ridiculous.

    Actually I have read a bunch of stuff he said before a while back but now there's more I guess (plus I forgot stuff,) so that's great.

    He doesn't seem to be a psychologist or therapist (or is poor at that,) so he's also completely ignoring that entire side of things.

    We have our first report of an adult patient with multiple methylation defects that started on B-Right while stopping hormones due to a high clot risk infection. While off HRT, Dysphoria resolved.
    Regardless, I wanted to put this out there, and the patient has multiple known MTHFR defects. I will continue to report if we have more evidence of this with further cases. I don't think that this is going to be a panacea for gender dysphoria, but similarly to how I have seen some of my lesbian patients shift to bisexuality with treatment, this may be an option for someone who feels sort of non-binary or has only mild gender dysphoria. No lesbians have become straight so far, but there has been a notable change in orientation in many of them. I think this will be much the same in that there may be some shifting of gender identity if the patient undergoes treatment while not on HRT, I doubt that someone with severe dysphoria will suddenly feel nothing when the methylation defects are treated.
    He keeps talking about 'lesbian' patients with no detail about what that treatment is for. Are they trans and on hrt and he's using this word pre-trans? Apparently they signed up for the treatment. Conversion therapy is illegal in several states .. Not necessarily where he works though. Think he's based in Michigan?

    I hope he's clear about his observations it seems he might be but I genuinely don't know what he's doing here:

    We already seen multiple cases of lesbians becoming bisexual on treatment. It happened to a best friend of mine. So it's not particularly shocking.

    We have not seen a single case of a gay male becoming bisexual on treatment.
    The problem isn't the theory, its the way he shares observations. n=1 is not compelling evidence, and he should REALLY keep it to himself until he has a larger sample size. Claiming that he may have cured "mild" GD and lesbianism (lol) because one patient felt better on b-vitamins is not sound science, and could be profoundly dangerous in the short term.
    The total amount of people that have told me they experienced a reduction in dysphoria with treatment is around 20 now. Total. Its not even a majority of the MPS patients. It only happens to some of them. It tends to be noted by those with less severe gender dysphoria, and almost always in those not yet on HRT. Being on HRT seems to prevent this GD improvement in most cases for MTF. We've seen it happen now a few times in FTM on T, and those cases are getting really sad. As an example, one of the patients transitioned 7 years ago, had top surgery, and now suddenly feels they have made a terrible mistake in transitioning. This is a patient who also was being treated for another condition and was given progesterone, which may also have contributed to this.

    I'd say the amount of lesbians and bisexual women who notice a shift towards straightness on the treatment is considerably greater. That's damn near half. It happened to one of my best friends who is an emergency medicine physician, and an extremely introspective person (and lesbian). I very much trusted her when she told me she saw this slowly happening over 6 months. She was one of the first reports, and she now feels completely bisexual. Its unclear if this would revert if she stopped the meds. She hasn't tried as she feels better on them overall.

    We're unsure as to exactly why this happens, but there are enough people commenting on various posts on this sub that you can prob find a few to talk to. One just posted in the past few days about it.
    Again what was he treating his lesbian best friend for? Or did she just feel like experimenting? Also why would agree to that if you've already had surgery? Then it just becomes stupid.

    This person got very angry:

    Wow. So you're essentially saying you've "cured" a person of being trans? In other words, eliminated a trans person.

    I won't even get started on the whole truscum/tucute comment. But in short it?s a fucked up thing to say as a cis person who has no real understanding of what it feels like to be trans. So you gave yourself "dysphoria" by using estrogen cream for a few days. Cute story! All the while knowing that you?re a man and that it would be easily reversible. You have no fucking idea what it?s like to be born this way and to grow up feeling like no future awaits you, and treated by society like a disease. Oh but you?re on the spectrum? Boo fucking hoo. Cry me some more white cishetero tears from the office of your successful medical practice built off the backs of a vulnerable community. Your autistic hyper focus made you more apt to excel in medicine therefore securing you a higher social status. But sure tell me more about how if a trans person manages to get even a moments respite from feeling existential dread that they?re not really trans and just some caricature of an anime loving pervert. I guess I did get started after all.
    i just wish you wouldn't make comments that infer that you can change someone's sexuality or cure dysphoria, without extraordinary evidence for such an extraordinary claim. anecdotes about what some patients said isn't enough evidence, in my opinion. i think that this is outside the scope of your field of expertise. i admit that you may see things, or may be told things by your patients, but you are not a psychologist or sex therapist or anything related to any kind of training on these issues which go well beyond biology. biology is only one factor in sexuality, as you admit when you say "this may be an option for someone who feels sort of non-binary or has only mild gender dysphoria". if it only works on milder cases, how do you define "mild"? are you now qualified to evaluate this? last you said, you refer people out to a therapist to get letters for HRT.
    It's always made me very uncomfortable. But I think there's some research suggesting that anyway but the end result seems unpredictable.

    Also these kind of attitudes below are another reason why I've never tried to pursue treatment ot therapy here I don't really want to be dealing with judgmental clueless doctors who don't understand people like me at all anyway.

    Ironically people will call me transphobic for saying this about these tucutes, but at the same time, actual transgender people, who have gone through transition, dealt with the establishment, had to deal with gatekeeping, they will understand what I mean. Tucutes are a poison to transgender rights and I said this years ago, I was crucified for it then and canceled, and it has done nothing but become ever more true every year. Their existence will result in loss of rights, loss of medical coverage, and further misery for real transgender people. I said this years ago, it's already come true, but it will just become even more true if this trend continues.

    I'm sure someone will be mad about me saying this now, but ultimately, I don't really care, I see my patients losing their rights to even get their medicine. It is now a felony for me in some states to do something that I did last year without any problems at all. Trans people want to pretend like these bad actors in the community are not the reason why that's happening, but to people that don't know transgender people, the only time that they interact with them is when they read about them in the newspaper, those people? They are easily swayed by the #hehim theyfab to think being trans is some fad or worse.

    Basically, yes, the conservative right has it out for transgender people, but the people loading bullets in their magazines are the tucutes. If this is not recognized, and something done about it, things will get even worse. Mark my words. I said this years ago, was called all kinds of names, and it has come true exactly as I said it would.

    I predicted Bitcoin, I told my patients about the pandemic 4 months before anybody knew [BEEP] about it. I am really good at looking at a situation and seeing how it's going to play out in the future and you can save this comment that if the transgender umbrella continues to grow ever larger, transgender people will be stripped of even more rights.
    For rights being taken away, it's awful. There's no good reason why we shouldn't have the same rights as everyone else. People without gender dysphoria aren't the reason this is happening though. If someone only accepts you if you act a certain way and conform to their ideas they don't accept you. I don't think that if people without gender dysphoria disappeared that the genocide would stop, I don't know if republicans would even notice. I think they just see us as degenerates to be punished. Kicking parts of the community out to appease fascists is a meaningless sacrifice, they'll just keep going. They hate all of us, not just the "weird" ones. Fascists always need an enemy. You can kind of already see this with how they are attacking gay people and gay rights. I've seen people say that the rest of the LGBT community needs to stop supporting trans people because we're dragging them down. What we should be doing is joining together in solidarity and doing community building.

    One last thing is that when people identify as transgender it's no small thing. People who don't experience gender dysphoria might not have the associated negative feelings, but by just identifying as trans they are going to experience discrimination and bigotry. If there are people identifying as trans for "clout" I think the number is so relatively small as to be insignificant. Also, I'd rather have people see being trans as something unique and interesting than people see being trans as disgusting and scorned.
    Yep pretty much. Most don't care and people want to get rid of the entire trans community.

    This and the way he frames it upsets me honestly. Maybe they were OK with the change later:

    Listen, I had an FTM patient flip out at me in the exam room when I suggested that they may experience a change in their sexual orientation.

    They told me to "go [BEEP] myself" when I said that they may find themselves attracted to men after starting on HRT. They fit the phenotype of the kind of person that I would expect to have this change based on my clinical experience. They told me that dudes were disgusting, they were only into women, and that they would never change.

    I expected to see them 3 months later. They showed up 6 weeks later telling me, "I need to go on prep, I fucked four dudes since I last saw you".

    So when you get all upset here and tell me about how there's social factors and so on. This person started on testosterone and in the span of six weeks experienced a massive change in their sexual orientation. This is the benefit of clinical experience. I have thousands of transgender people that I have seen over 10 years and you have zero. You telling me that you and your friends didn't change your sexual orientation is a drop in the bucket compared to my clinical experience.

    Regardless, this is just what I see. I have seen it occur countless times, and there will be plenty of people here that will verify they experience changes in their sexual orientation after starting HRT. This patient had far too short of a time on testosterone to possibly be due to social causes. The chemical in their mind did it nearly instantaneously.
    ^ another thing that bothers me is that consistently in his posts about the phenotype thing he says his patients 'turn gay' not just that they become attracted to men so they lose attraction to women? While comparing them to pixies and tinkerbell and [BEEP] like that:

    What I find is that the trans men that show up on day one being rather hirsute and masculinized already due to some androgen excess condition tend to end up with the deepest and most masculine sounding voices.

    Those that show up with effectively zero masculinization day one often do not and end up with nasal or brassy voices that aren't quite masculine or feminine. (Incidentally, these also tend to sometimes be part of the group I refer to as the "tinkerbell trans man" phenotype. They are thin, short, and 100lbs soaking wet and attracted usually only to women. Post T they are more or almost completely male attracted. They show up looking like lesbian tinkerbell on day zero and two years later are a gay man. )
    Okay, so just as an example, I often have joked about the FTM Helga to Tinkerbell scale. Now, that is part of the theory as the Tinkerbell's being type 1 and the Helga's being type 2.

    For years I called it the Helga to Tinkerbell scale As I really didn't have a better way of explaining why I had two different groups of transgender men.

    Before transitioning, they basically almost always fell into one of two categories (but obviously there are straight and bisexual outliers)

    A tiny, pixie, ADHD lesbian who says that they want to transition. They often have hypermobile joints, autism spectrum disorder, and a multitude of other health issues. They look like a literal elf.

    A Helga, a big, thick, stocky, earthy woman with large breasts. They look like they would be a female dwarf in World of Warcraft. (Exaggeration, but that's the category that you would sort them in given the choice)

    Type 1 starts on testosterone and typically within 6 months, develops an attraction to men, sometimes, this becomes the dominant or only attraction. They go from being a lesbian to a gay man.
    I mean, we all kind of subconsciously know this right? How many pre-HRT FTMs do you see that look like fucking Barbie? Almost zero. The overwhelming majority of them fall into two categories. What I call "pixie" type transgender men, who are about 4'10 to 5'3 and never really weigh more than 125 lb. They show up with short cropped hair and sort of have the look of an effeminate teenage boy. They often look younger than their stated age. They are usually attracted more to women with some degree of bisexual leaning, and after starting HRT, they generally become gay trans men. I often state that they were gay before and they are gay after. They rarely have abnormal androgens.

    The other subset tends to be the stocky masc trans man. They come in like "Helga", a very muscular or thick bodied and masculine-looking person right at baseline. They often have a hairy upper lip or some degree of hirsutism and acne. They look like they have been on testosterone for a while already. They are usually attracted exclusively to women and previously identified as masculine presenting lesbians. They transition and tend to stay attracted only to women.

    Not everybody falls in these two categories, but I'd say that this catches about 80% of my patients.
    He also cites this which is out of date:

    It's not though. This is well documented in cisgender women. Birth control in particular causes them to be more attracted to more feminine shaped faces. Not on birth control they tend to be attracted to more masculine faces.

    So this is not a transgender limited thing. It's just a human thing. That's not to say that there's going to be some massive inversion of sexual orientation, but often I see shifts in my patients that are cisgender or transgender.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6328097/

    Previous research has suggested that women using oral contraceptives show weaker preferences for masculine men than do women not using oral contraceptives. Such research would be consistent with the hypothesis that steroid hormones influence women's preferences for masculine men. Recent large-scale longitudinal studies, however, have found limited evidence linking steroid hormones to masculinity preferences. Given the relatively small samples used in previous studies investigating putative associations between masculinity preferences and oral contraceptive use, we compared the facial masculinity preferences of women using oral contraceptives and women not using oral contraceptives in a large online sample of 6482 heterosexual women. We found no evidence that women using oral contraceptives had weaker preferences for male facial masculinity than did women not using oral contraceptives. These findings add to a growing literature suggesting that links between reproductive hormones and preferences are more limited than previously proposed.
    In terms of body habitus, the skinny low muscular ones tend to look like LOTR elves. They have high angular facial features and even somewhat look like a pointed ear. The lesbians that come out as transgender men that look like little pixies, they start on testosterone and suddenly become gay transgender men are this type 1 phenotype, the tall spindly 6'4 transgender woman with no muscle mass will have an absolutely enormous Adam's apple, and significantly above average length penis is the same variant but in MTF.
    Neotenic and small + skinny sure. The pointed ears thing is too much. Honestly thing he might be hallucinating at that point. I do like elves and elf like beings though personally but this is still dumb and makes it more difficult to take him seriously even though I have seen similar patterns and I think a lot of people have.

    Personality effects: Interest in fantasy worlds / gaming, "Nerd culture" (Star trek/wars/Dr who) Otakus/Anime, Ren Faire, Non-traditional relationship structures, BDSM interest. ( I think all of this personality stuff is related to these people being faintly dissociated all the time, often related to VDR/COMT/MAO mutations amplified by MTHFR defects.) Thus, the idea of "other realities" is quite easy for their brains to accept, hence the interest in these common topics.
    There is also a specific sub phenotype of transgender men that I see this with rather often. They previously identify as lesbians, they then decide that they are a transgender man and they have a male gender identity, they come in for treatment, are attracted only to women, and then after approximately a few months on testosterone, they are attracted only to men.

    These people tend to be short, have angular facial features, be thin, and generally I would describe them as a "Tinkerbell" type human.

    I have never seen this happen in my transgender men who are the type that have high aromatase activity, larger lips, curvy, larger breasts, tend to be heavier. It's almost exclusive to the little pixie types that see this inversion of their sexual orientation.
    As I said it's ridiculous. Also I mostly fit into this physical phenotype and it's annoying always looking so neotenic but I don't have angular facial features and I'm attracted to men. There's another YouTuber I follow who has a similar sexuality in the UK like borderline-asexual likes androgynous guys and talked in the past about being sexually into women but I think they've gone back and forth about that (also deleted some older videos where they talked about that and also how they wanted a dick etc. They can't really enjoy anything sexual if it's not from a male pov.) They also haven't medically transitioned and are in their late 30s. They also have ADHD and autism and basically fit his profile except for the part about being mostly into women and he also posts lots of photos of himself on Instagram. Also in the past most trans men who transitioned who weren't exclusively into women were into androgynous guys so that actually used to be the norm shown in research.

    So he'd just accuse that YouTuber of being 'tucute' and a completely different thing because of the social media posts but he clearly fits perfectly into the pattern he noticed he just has less physical dysphoria and hasn't medically transitioned (for many reasons he's gone into,) but he still IDs as a trans guy and genderfluid. And this really annoys me. Because yeah you can predict this but it's a spectrum for most people. I won't post out non-trans examples (I mean I have before though lol,) but I can and they usually have signs of not being entirely happy with their physical sex etc too + not identifying fully with their gender without using certain labels, and fit the profile to varying degrees. Sometimes they're taller than average but still skinny and fit the rest of the physical + psychological profile.

    And you're acting like it's an entirely different phenomenon and that people being honest but not medically transitioning is somehow the problem instead of people being bigoted against trans and gender non-conforming people. Convenient for you I guess since you make money off them doing one of these two things. So they should just stay closeted and not talk about how they feel online or medically transition?

    In fact he kind of says this in a different post:

    Not everyone who has the syndrome will have all aspects of it. But many people have multiple things. I myself have many of the things and I also have the same genetic mutations in MTHFR and MTR/R but no gender issues. My dad has hashimoto's and aromatase excess and both parents gave me MTHFR variants.

    In short, these methylation based genetic mutations act as a magnifying glass on already underlying mild mutations which otherwise might have been clinically silent.

    Lastly the other areas in which we often see abnormalities are in the COMT, MAO, VDR, SHMT, CBS, BHMT and AHCY genes which also add to the overall neuroinflammation / generalized inflammatory picture.

    Oh and APOE4 variant appears a ton too.
    But ignores it anyway to [BEEP] on people in the trans community who for whatever reason decide to not medically transition (and there are often complex and multiple reasons for why they don't especially in this cultural climate,) and post openly online without being closeted.

    How about this,

    I don't think that AFabs that wear female clothing, dress provocatively, and hang their boobs out on their only fans, but put #hehim in their profile because they don't shave their armpits are trans.

    People like that are literally annihilating the movement. They are an embarrassment, and they are effectively diluting what once was a defensible medical position. They make a mockery of someone else's suffering, and I literally can't stand them.

    They are not the same as somebody who just doesn't have severe gender dysphoria but feels better presenting as another gender than the one they were assigned. I can tolerate that. It's not like if you don't have gender dysphoria, you can't possibly be transgender. Though admittedly, those should be exception cases. The word transgender means someone who has a gender identity that is not congruent with the sex that they were assigned at birth. Because of that incongruence, they have a medical problem, and we treat it medically.

    If someone doesn't have a medical problem, they don't have dysphoria, and they don't need to take hormones because they have no dysphoria or desire to change their body, they are not transgender. Call them some other word, but they are not transitioning from one gender to another.

    But this #hehim spicy straight girl? They and worse are who have been welcomed under the ever-increasing in size trans umbrella, and I think that it will be to the detriment of all transgender people to continue to tolerate that. I did not believe the gender is a fashion accessory, and I don't think pretending to be the same as someone suffering from true gender dysphoria, should be something that someone puts on for attention.
    In this post he makes the case that it's sort of OK if you don't medically transition (but really you should,) and does the thing I mentioned where he is essentially shitting on sex workers and promiscuous afab people. The fact that he only calls out afab people and not trans women and amab non-binary people who don't medically transition which you can find plenty of examples of as well actually, is really telling of the misogynistic anti-femme promiscuity cultural norm.

    And technically he might accept me (only just,) since I am not someone who does this. But I'm pretty tired of medical professionals deciding which [BEEP] people are and aren't 'real.' The misogyny of it all. And the clear aversion to sex workers and female promiscuity that underpins a lot of this.

    [BEEP] you.

    I use estrogen cream on my face once a week to make myself look younger, and I saw someone the other day call somebody like me Cis+. As if, using some topical cream could almost classify me as transgender. It's ridiculous. I am very much happy about being a man in today's society, what happens to women is absolutely atrocious, and I wouldn't wish that on anybody, especially myself.
    Don't care. You're not even an afab trans person or a trained psychologist who understands gender identity so you can [BEEP] off and stop projecting how you feel onto afab trans people.

    Obviously you are not trans and people calling you trans are dumb.

    I honestly don't know how to even respond to this. I disagree with what you've said and there are only two quick things I want to say.

    Unless you have data to back up your claims it's just anecdotal, you can't possibly know what's going on in someone's head. I think that it's possible you're making a lot of incorrect assumptions.

    As for rights being stripped away, I think your anger is misplaced. I tend to think that we should focus our attention on the people in power actually doing the harm, instead of blaming victims.

    You've mentioned elsewhere that while you work with trans people you'll never be part of the community, just adjacent to it. I think this is one of the times that reaching out and accepting that there are things to learn might be helpful. If you're interested in talking more feel free to shoot me a message.
    This all just seems kinda ethically careless.

    As of right now trans people are very much so being persecuted in the US, and you making a point out of seeing whether you can "untrans" someone through medical intervention comes off as a threat more so than an aid. I just think you need to at least try and show more care towards our current political climate. I'd hate to think what this information, regardless of how high or low the success rate is, could do if it were to end up in the wrong hands. It's not like there's that much else needed for the other shoe to drop at this point.

    When it comes to this "hormones can change your sexuality" talk; how can we know for sure whether or not finally being on hormones isn't what's helping people get to know themselves better? Besides it's also not guaranteed they do change anything. Certainly didn't for me. Not to say I?m the arbiter of what can and cannot happen due to HRT, but to be fair neither are you. Whether you wanna believe that or not ahahahh.

    You might be a trained medical professional who's gotten to treat a great deal of trans people, but you?re still a cis man that won?t be anywhere near as negatively impacted by even just the notion of "a magical pill to make these transgressive transvestites normal hallelujah!" as us. So I beg of you to please try and consider the implications of this. Maybe some things are better off left not pursued. At least until things get better for us, maybe?
    I haven't slept in like 24 hours so it was probably the last thing I should have read really.

    I wonder if male identities have a tendency to reject or supress male attraction? Nah 🙄
    Yes they do and I think that influences things. He doesn't seem to account for that. But losing sexual fluidity is something I'd worry about.

    I very much understand that.

    I understand how the community feels right now, because I'm currently dealing with what states I can legally practice in despite having a license in that state.
    Evidently you really don't lol.

    There are people who lurk here, who perhaps cannot transition right now for whatever reason, and this could be something they could try and see if it would help them.
    No thanks.

    Rhetoric

    What if gender dysphoria isn't the end all be all of being trans?

    I'm pretty sure you don't think that way, but your framing sort of makes it feel that way. I think a there's a lot of anxiety around whether or not the patient chose to detransition, afterwards, since transition can have benefits beyond alleviating dysphoria. Had I taken methylated B vitamin supplements before starting to transition, my ADHD would still be barely manageable (estrogen made it so much better). It also wouldn't erase the experience of growing up with gender dysphoria and I would probably still find it hard to socially integrate as a man.

    The rest of this will mostly be critique of the post, with the intent of helping write future posts such that they don't receive the same backlash.

    It would help if you included specifics about which aspects of their GD resolved. Being dysphoric about your body is one thing, but dysphoria surrounding social roles feels a lot more core to many of our identities. If they were a relatively well-integrated guy, pre-transition, it might change how people see this, but we don't know that.
    Yeah.

    I've been investigating more and this person's history with doctors sounds terrible:

    I had a very bad stretch of doctors before Dr. Powers. One sexually assaulted me, two blamed all my other health issues on HRT, one kept me on such a low dose of estrogen and high dose of sprio, that I think it fucked up my breast growth permanently.

    I honestly hope I die before Dr. Powers retires because I do not want to deal with trying to find another PCP ever again in my life. The man listens to me, and he gave me results that I did not have before him.

    I had to go through many years of hell to find a good doctor, and I?m not going to give that up for anything.
    his method is just "fuck around and find out", he has not published a single paper or study of any kind, and his methods are questionable at best, do not trust anything he says.
    It seems incredibly experimental which is fine if he informs people I guess and illegal if he doesn't.

    A cisgender doctor, Dr Will Powers, is silencing transfeminine people who criticize him by threatening legal action. This comes on the heels of numerous statements where he aligned himself with gatekeeping and racism (see below). Can cis professionals be trusted?
    I decided no being generally risk averse.





    He's actually said worse stuff on his subreddit.

    let me just say its VERY funny how that one doctor with some noticeable megalomaniacal tendencies is literally named dr. will powers
    Lol yeah a bit.

    Idk he has pretty crackpot views on trans men so I?ve never thought highly of him. 🤷
    The only people I can really see praising him are trans women tbh except there was some website and I don't know all the details but they criticised him and then he threatened legal action against them apparently.

    Some people have linked some stuff.

    Someone posted a long thread but the gist was this:

    Hi, I watched your 5/2019 Youtube presentation and you talked about aggression in FTM patients. I would agree that T has a relationship to aggression but I think it's highly exaggerated in most people. In terms of being angry--why would that be linked to T? Anger is an emotion, it's a response to a circumstance, or maybe to your thoughts about a circumstance. I was a very, VERY angry person for years. On T I became much calmer. And I have talked to a lot of FTMs online who said they got calmer on T.

    I became somewhat more decisive (I feel like my executive functioning improved--side note I think it's interesting what you said about problems with 0 T because when I was young a dermatologist suspected PCOS and tested my test levels and they came back 0 at that time--I had major depression from 13 years old until several months on HRT in my 30s, after about 1 year I went off mood stabilizers successfully), and I was a bit better about defending my boundaries. But defending my boundaries may have come about because T boosted my self esteem as it reduced my dysphoria.
    He responded this:

    Wow, that was really long and involved.

    yeah, I don't know man, I've just seen people start on testosterone and then beat up their girlfriend for the first time. So yeah....

    That being said, I have PTSD and that [BEEP] is weird. So who knows. I don't even hope to understand my own condition. Such random things set It off.
    Great. But I'm still not convinced t has a large impact.

    Ftm here, I've always had really bad anger issues, grew up in a toxic abusive home (two, actually) always moving, bad neighborhoods half the time, always got in fights at school, did some stuff I really am not too proud of. When I got on T, my anger got way less out of control. Sure, I still experience anger in a visceral way, I still yell, but it stops there. I haven't physically hurt someone in a long time.
    I've heard this from someone else I used to talk to. I think it came up because I can also get very angry (not to the point of violence, not since I was a kid.) They said they actually chilled out a lot more after going on t.

    So if he thinks that T makes all men hyper aggressive, and seems to not want to "ruin" those poor little girls (let me give a trans teen a T inhibitor and suddenly they say they're cis??), and now thinks non binary trans persons aren't trans... are the only legitimate trans folks to him trans women? Is that why they defend him so much?
    Lol many such cases.

    It seems like he's willing to treat many people regardless from what I heard but I don't know if that extends to some of the non-binary people he was talking about and his view of them was clearly based on social media like 'posting pictures with their tits out' etc.

    That's definitely an interesting study but as someone who's known they identified as the opposite sex since early ages it does make me a bit uncomfortable from the thought of taking antiandrogebs and identifying as a butch women rather than a trans male. A male is part of my personality and who I am. It seems wild that some of the cases you encountered had the opposite effect on transgender teenagers.
    Yeah he just hasn't addressed this aspect at all from what I've seen in any posts I've read.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    'Based feminism?' Oh that's cringe.

    Maybe I'll watch this later. So I can get pissed off over and over lol. That's a sane thing to do. I'm more interested in the debate she had with Aella now except that Aella said a while ago that she didn't think it went well. That's not surprising because it's hard to 'win' against people with this personality type and class background from the UK. That's what Jordan Peterson was talking about when he talked about British female journalists with that guy from The Telegraph only they limited it to left wing female journalists. End of this video:



    Interviewer: It's interesting because these are British I don't know if that's relevant-

    Jordan Peterson: it's relevant

    Interviewer: left wing, female journalists. Who will really grill you and go for you and people found watching those interviews entertaining, interesting and they went hugely viral. [...]

    Jordan Peterson: It's extremely interesting all of that and it isn't irrelevant that they're British at all because of your- there's a particular viciousness about British journalists that's quite unique and it's not all bad but some of it's bad.

    I never watched the Aella and Louise debate at the time. I stumbled on what I think is a clip from the 'based feminism' video on twitter yesterday though. It was quite annoying as per usual.

    Quote from the clip:

    So men are more likely to seek out casual sex with women they don't have any intention of actually leaving their wives for, whereas women tend to look for lifeboats. So they'll look for a man who actually they really want to marry and indeed, women will tend to want casual sex with men who have all the same qualities that they'd look for in a husband. Whereas men have this twin track thing, where they have the marriageable women and they have the fun women.
    I'm not romantically attracted to 99.9% of the women I find sexually arousing or attractive and I'm genetically female. I bring this up a lot because these people's entire model for sorting Human psychology and sexuality is based on sex. So you have 'female sexuality' OK which one?

    Also obviously if you're having casual sex with men you don't do it with people you're romantically attracted to. Some people who have casual sex shouldn't have casual sex but that's a different issue. I also think women find it more difficult to have casual sex with men than with women. At that point it's not very difficult to process. If you don't find most men that attractive then that creates a scarcity mentality.

    Another thing is if you have sexual fetishes then casual sex can be fine.

    And the tragedy of women not really understanding male sexuality, because we lie about it all the time is that women don't know this.
    Again I don't think anyone is confused about this. Especially bisexual or sexually fluid women. FOR FUCKS SAKE LOUISE THEY DON'T CARE.

    God I'm always like this quote I read recently from The Sims 4 reddit thread:

    idk why but i always manage to forget its not the norm to be bisexual 😭 it just makes sense to me
    I mean yeah, it's my nature so it's easy for me to slip into "this is the norm," but the reality is it's not and I usually get knocked out of it when a straight woman says something out of pocket lmao
    Not because it makes sense to me but just because research shows women are more sexually fluid. So it's confusing to me that many women aren't aware of this.

    She's so painfully straight and cisgender that it actually hurts.

    I mean I wouldn't care if she wasn't like:

    I think we should sex segregate education more
    And things like that.

    Im so glad that there's finally feminist content that takes evolutionary biology seriously
    Oh my god. They're just conservatives.

    TIL that one of these women had their internet censored, never swore, spent 5 nights a week studying the Bible, and went to church 3 times a week while growing up, and the other is Louise Perry.
    Yeah it's funny. She finds it funny too and brought up the irony a while ago. Was trying to find that tweet but couldn't and coincidentally found this:

    like sure, you could make an argument that maybe some girls think that it's worth paying the cultural costs if they're gonna make 100k/month, and they overestimate the likelihood of making 100k/month; but my guess is this prob rarely happens. But to the extent that it does -

    then the issue should be like "when you sign up for onlyfans, you should get a message letting you know what the average person earns per amount of effort" - make sure that ppl have a realistic sense of what they can expect to earn in exchange for their reputational sacrifice

    but i *don't* buy that women are somehow oblivious to how much normie men aren't gonna want to wife them anymore. I started sex work at 20 years old, and this was a big conversation among everyone I knew at that time. we were HYPER aware.
    Obviously right? How stupid does she think working class women are? The absolute patronising upper middle class nonsense of it all.



    This guy is kind of boring and didn't really want to listen to him lol *skipping ahead* Oh this isn't even the debate video it's just this guy's review of it lol!



    This clash isn't happening inside the modern feminist movement really (the host says that in the video near the beginning.) I mean Louise Perry is a conservative who calls herself a feminist for PR/branding reasons, and Aella is sex positive but not a feminist. Neither of these people would be seen as feminists really by most feminists and I'm sure Aella wouldn't self identify as one.

    But feminism to some people is pretty much anyone who disagrees with all the opinions of conservative men so that's everyone besides them really lol. Sort of like how woke now includes builders who like to talk about history. Given history is often seen as a right wing male thing that was... Ridiculous. Of course 'woke' also doubles as the new term for 'fag/gay' in contexts like this so that's what they were saying in that Daily Mail article like it was unmasculine to talk about history which is really dumb I doubt they even believe that just rage bait. (And yeah even the idea of being interested in history is now politicised and tribal that's how insane the cold civil war is.)

    My brother brought up this headline the other day lol and I instantly knew what he was talking about as he was trying to remember what it was. He was just like 'and there was this ridiculous headline' and I knew exactly what he was talking about lol. Because it was insane. So history is both a far right and woke activity. Like gaming. And I guess watching sports? I saw conservatives complaining about that before a year ago or so. They solved the 'is e-sports and gamers gay/woke/feminine?' Question by just deciding watching any sports is gay/feminine/woke. I'm glad everyone online and in the media is insane now.

    Her argument at 20:00 is monstrous. Women being circumstantially forced into sex "work" is "an opportunity for the poor." How can someone say so much without hearing their own words?
    Not really. A lot of working class people and even whatever's left of the middle class have boring jobs they hate and not interesting careers (assuming they have a job and/or aren't doing something criminal. Of course depending on where you live prostitution might be criminal lol...) If they're OK with sex work or enjoy sex in general and can make comparably more money doing it it makes a lot of sense. The biggest argument against it really is the std risk but the moral + projection stuff is just dumb.

    If someone is forced into doing it due to sexual slavery or finds the idea traumatic then they shouldn't be doing it though.

    Unfortunately at this point in history I would say that's unlikely that they would make significantly more money. Everyone just uses porn and only fans and only a minority of people make any decent money doing that I assume because the market is flooded unlike with irl prostitution/escort work which less people are willing to do. I'd actually suggest YouTube over something like onlyfans in this culture unless you're a radical and want to do it for culture war reasons because people lose their job for working on onlyfans and if you're only making 'beer money' you can also make small amounts of money reasonably easily on YouTube ime (and then won't lose your job as long as you don't say controversial things lol. Very easy to lose your job in this culture.) But it will take about 1-6 months and depends on your content/niche. Money is allergic to me though so if I can do it pretty much anyone can I reckon.

    Also AI is going to take over most of this stuff soon and you may or may not be able to figure out a way to use that to make money.

    Things continuously get worse for working class people, inequality in the US and UK has increased continuously since about the 1970s, and the system is collapsing. More obvious news at 11.

    Speaking of getting fired. If the universities are really so liberal now why did some guy get fired because of his porn career:

    Joe Gow, the chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse, was fired after his porn career with his wife came to light.
    Gow's pornographic double life was a secret hiding in plain sight. In various interviews with The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and local TV stations, Gow said he and his wife have made adult content for more than a decade, initially for their own private purposes, and anonymously penned two books about their sex life.
    Nobody who is actually liberal would give a [BEEP] about this.

    Gow took heavy criticism in 2018 for inviting porn actor Nina Hartley to speak at UW-La Crosse. He paid her $5,000 out of student fees to appear. Ray Cross, then UW system president, reprimanded him and the regents refused to give him a raise that year. Gow said then that he was exercising the system?s free speech policies.
    US Conservatives only dislike US academia because it's often pro-trans and pro left-wing economics. It's actually an amalgamation of beliefs though.

    Anyway quoting stuff from this debate:

    We suffer all the negative consequences of hormonal birth control.
    I don't lol never been on it. Shockingly it's not a given that because you have female body you will have to go on hormonal birth control.

    I actually think people should do non-piv sex more, use condoms, legalise abortion and have abortions if they're worried about hormonal birth control if they get pregnant. There are also non hormonal options now besides condoms but there can be downsides to that too. You can also just choose not to have sex if that's your prerogative while not shaming people.

    I think you should use that shaming energy to shame fuckboys like Andrew Tate and in general psychopathic conservative men who have lots of casual sex. Because they have annoying personalities and conservative views about women and gender roles, and hypocritical standards all of which irritates me.

    I don't really do casual sex, intercourse or sex in general these days out of a combination of personal preference, laziness and avoiding relationships due to mental health + personal life stuff, but you make me want to do the opposite of everything you say Louise every time you open up your mouth. So thinking about it probably don't talk to Andrew Tate etc either. Wait she just mentioned buying porn I could do that. And I might if that one guy ever reduces his patreon fee from 8 pounds to 2 pounds and posts something I'm a bit more interested in. But actually a lot of pornographic content online is free.

    I'm not the type to pay for onlyfans because if I want to see naked women I can google etc and they don't necessarily have to be naked I have some bookmarked images where they're not, and I like to read free erotica while I look at images sometimes (but I'm in my audio porn phase for the most part right now.) I even used to use softcore porn from YouTube during one period of my life when I was really into Asian guys and stumbled on a bunch of Korean porn. In the end it wasn't even really about the guys or how they were Asian though. It's amazing what I've managed to work with at different points in my life (I even used to use my imagination,) and as for guys who I might have a specific attraction to they're few and far between these days + not on onlyfans and some of them would require a time machine. So I just use non sexual gifs and photos of them instead. Or sort of non sexual sometimes. He didn't need to be dressed that way you know what I'm saying?



    I've posted this gif so many times now that it probably should be a criminal offence.

    I think I'm probably going to decide that making AI porn of him (or whoever I'm into when/if that becomes a realistic + cheap + easy option,) would be unethical which is going to really suck. Even more than deciding writing/reading real person fanfiction is unethical. Does it even matter if I still get off using photos of people and post about it on this forum + I've slipped up a few times reading real person fanfic in my 20s + I'm still looking from time to time at that one comic someone made on Tumblr which had female Steven Wilson and was clearly softcore feminisation porn? In a sense it's not really him because it's a drawing and they changed his name and he was female-ish and I'm into that sort of thing regardless but they drew him in a hot way with the long hair and glasses. I have very arbitrary ethical standards. But I haven't murdered anyone. I'll just set the bar really low lol. There are people who think killing is better than what I've talked about here.

    They (conservatives,) should be really into people having fetishes since they often give people options besides piv, but they're not because they're prudes about non vanilla sex, and want people to reproduce and have tons of kids. But I don't want to get pregnant I just want to move to an alternate reality where I don't have to feel guilty for any of the stuff I mentioned and where artificial wombs exist and are fully functional and all the guys look like this (or look in some other way I can find hot):



    But instead I'm stuck here and Steven Wilson also cut his hair recently but it's fine. 😒 (No really it's fine lol. It's his hair he can do what he likes.) I lost attraction to him around 2015 anyway (initially I was attracted to some photos I saw of him in 2013-2014 or something because he reminded me of an old crush I had but I've said this many times,) or I was more focussed on other guys from around 2015-2016 onwards until I started looking at old videos and images of him again recently over the past year or two. He had a really great body (and then also the hair obviously):







    so hot.

    What was she saying? Oh yes cis men like porn more.

    "Even though there are plenty of exceptions to this rule at the population level-"

    Don't read my mind.

    Also why don't they ever talk about sexual stuff women are more into (on average?) I hope they will go into this in this video at some point. But when you say that men consume more porn you're just thinking/talking about video content. You're not thinking of all the porn women are creating and consuming constantly. They actually sometimes get imprisoned for writing certain things in China for 10+ years. It's not just that men are more sexually motivated because they consume porn and women don't there's a lot of women who consume tons of porn and also romantic stuff with sexual content included, just not video porn.

    "And then you have men who behave like lesbians in their everyday life."

    Playing into the sexless lesbian stereotype.

    Louise on behalf of myself, Contrapoints, Camille Paglia, probably other people. I'm going to need you to [BEEP] off. It's not fun. No one (who is at least slightly trans it seems lol,) enjoys it. It's like being castrated.

    Quote Contrapoints
    If you browse lesbian forums you'll see a lot of posts like this.

    quoting: 'Feel like a bad feminist for having explicitly gay thoughts. I see a woman and I'm like damn... and then I have gay thoughts and then I'm like... She's not an object stop and then I'm like. I am gay this is how my brain works and the cycle continues.'

    There's this feeling that comes up that sexual interest that sexual interest in women is inherently in conflict with feminism and with respect for women.
    I love how feminists invented the Madonna/whore complex for women hahaha.

    I think it's more difficult if you're sexually aroused by women but not romantically attracted to them. Which is common for bisexual women and according to research is the default state for straight women because they're aroused by women too just with a lower sex drive it seems than bisexual women. There's a kind of projected guilt I think that many women do on to men because they feel bad that they see women as sexual objects and can't romantically connect to them like they can to men. But this is just a hypothesis. Mostly as I refuse to believe that straight women aren't self aware on some level about the arousal that shows up in every research paper. OK there might be a few exceptions around but seems like the vast majority of women are sexually aroused by other women and that's going to have an impact on this topic surely.

    Of course a lot of people conclude that this attraction and arousal is just because of the media which influences people to find women more attractive or arousing. This is hilarious but also low-key homophobic and irritating at the same time. It's kind of a talking point homophobes and transphobes use a lot to argue against these things. Also an explanation used by feminists for why women tend to think women are more aesthetically attractive. But somehow this works on 0 gay men exposed to the same media (even aesthetically in some surveys yes - gay men show up as the only people who on average think men are more aesthetically attractive in general of course. I'm not sure the gay men who love female media would agree though.. But that's just a hypothesis. I mean the super fans of female pop stars... I'm sorry but it's not the music. *ducks down while searching for/avoiding random swifties and the other cults,* I mean the music is fine and they're often good singers and some are better musicians than others and in some cases their better music is even underrated compared to the stuff that gets popular, but still it's mostly about the image) I think the men I'm into are more aesthetically attractive actually. That's why most people I want to look like are slightly-moderately looking slim androgynous guys lol and I was attracted to most of them although not them:





    Kind of over it (dunno actually still pretty cool,) but this was the vibe for 2023. Obviously I've always thought sunglasses were cool.

    I like how they look like Eldritch (Andrew Eldritch now that I think about it but I meant eldritch eldritch like some cryptid/demonic energy,) cyberpunk Anna Wintour Roman statue.

    ...Then I could say women after aesthetic guys, but clearly I don't mean all women. Are unattractive women or men more unattractive in my mind? I don't know honestly. I think it's close. Women have long hair more often so might give them a slight edge? Otherwise probably equal.

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    There's an SNL sketch contrasting a parody reality show for gay men with a parody reality show for gay women. Here it is again men like bodies women like emotions. I guess you have to concede that there is some truth to the stereotypes. But to be fair I think that middle aged gay men probably act a lot more 'like lesbians' I dunno this prejudice is something that I internally struggle with. I don't rationally endorse this but I sort of feel in my bones that men desire more intensely and I think to some extent I actually envy gay men for what I perceive as their enlarged sexual desire and enjoyment. That's kind of a me problem it's probably more of an issue for therapy and not for YouTube content.

    But OK to the extent that the stereotypes are true why? Well my theory is that it's largely because women have more anxiety and guilt around gazing, visual pleasure, and objectification.
    Nope and Camille Paglia was going on about that for decades before you. But you know that because I know she's familiar with her.

    She talked about this tons. I think it was a major conflict in her life up until the 2010s and modern culture war which she got involved with for about 5 minutes before disappearing, but I cba to find all the quotes so:

    "Gay men are guardians of the masculine impulse. To have anonymous sex in a dark alleyway is to pay homage to the dream of male freedom. The unknown stranger is a wandering pagan god. The altar, as in pre-history, is anywhere you kneel." - Camille Paglia

    "When I meet gay men anywhere in the world, there is a spontaneity and a spirit of fun and mischief that lesbians seem incapable of." - Camille Paglia

    "Gay men may seek sex without emotion; lesbians often end up in emotion without sex." - Camille Paglia

    I was really trying to find a quote where she specifically brings up how she thinks lesbian porn is sexless and boring or the porn lesbians make I think? Can't find it though.

    Camille's back. She thinks that feminists can learn a thing or two from drag queens and prostitutes ("the ultimate liberated woman") - the vamp female and the tramp female. As we'd expect from Paglia, she finds a number of ancient and archaic precedents - from temple prostitutes to the emasculated priests of Attis dressed in women's garb. Yet she also admires the streetwalkers in her hometown of Philadelphia (they are "goddesses"), and spends quality time with the New York drag queen Glennda Orgasm. Paglia doesn't, as earlier feminists did, think of drag queens as a grotesque parody and mockery of the female self. She thinks them guardians of a sacred flame with the same bitchy but vulnerable quality of those camped up actresses, like Elizabeth Taylor, whom Paglia so envies and admires. Drag queens have preserved the idea of women as "dominatrix of the universe"; Paglia goes so far as to claim that she has "learnt how to be a woman" from these men masquerading as film stars.
    No you really didn't. But I get it. That's why I like Slaanesh.

    Paglia's enemies are still the puritans, the "unholy alliance" of the politically correct with the far right. She especially loathes the "tenured radicals" of the campus, who, bereft of real power, police language instead. She saves most of her bile for the anti-pornographers. "I'm an extreme advocate of the most lurid forms of pornography," she enthuses in the essay No Law in the Arena - by far her most substantial work since Sexual Personae, and one which might well prove a new rallying cry for sexual dissidents of all kinds. For she is a sexual dissident first, and a feminist second.
    It's annoying right? When you're already inhibited to have that message shoved at you constantly by concern trolling straight women with ulterior motives.

    Everything she says and does makes a bit more sense if you consider it comes (at least partly,) from a place of envy/admiration but there's also the fact that she likes being edgy and trolling people but the former thing influences her as well I'm pretty sure. It's a very different kind of envy from the envy that straight feminist women have regarding male status or other achievements in science etc. But her envy is about heterosexual sexuality I guess? Like she can't be this liberated femme porn star dominatrix kind of deal manipulating men cause her sexuality + personality doesn't fit with that (not that anyone can past a certain age,) but she also can't have the sexuality/sex drive of a gay man. So she has none of the power and none of the enjoyment. Unless she goes on testosterone. Maybe not even then but generally then. Statistically that would probably work. I don't know if she know this though but I think it inspires a lot of what she's saying. Also she couldn't really attract sex partners from what she's said most of the time. I get this very much.

    The thing is though a lot of guys aren't in a much better position because it's not like most of them can get casual sex and they're not that inspired to do so at this point in history. But that's why she talked more about gay men in the past.

    Also I think her misogyny is excessive and somewhat defeatist. It seems to come from a defeatist/blackpill attitude. Compared to Aella's approach which is like:

    i kinda view the ideal world as one where everyone is having a lot of sex with each other, but women have this lizardbrain-installed gate that makes sure she can't enjoy having casual sex that much. I hope in the glorious transhumanist future we figure out how to fix this!
    That's an improvement though right?

    Apparently she's done this several times I was just looking for one specific tweet:

    How bad is it to experiment with microdosing testosterone? Any reason I shouldn't do this?
    Why do you want to microdose random drugs? Where would you get the testosterone from?
    From you obviously.

    I'm not really into that but I think that would be fun to play with someone who is. Maybe. Sort of like how I'm not into period stuff but I appreciate period fetishists.

    I should probably stop turning everything into some kind of emasculation or feminisation kink scenario. I also don't remember the gender of the person who wrote that tweet lol (or didn't notice in the first place anyway and just assumed male.) Either way though I guess.

    A fascinating description from a trans friend of mine about their experience starting testosterone - shortly after giving birth, for extra fun contrast.

    Testosterone sounds amazing, no wonder women are so unhappy. I'm super curious about microdosing it

    I'm not going to lie to you. The backlash to this was very entertaining. This is another reason I like her so much despite my many disagreements with some of her opinions.

    Obviously you shouldn't form an opinion about that based off of 1 anecdote about one person's initial experience though. I think results are pretty mixed, there are pros and cons and also overtime if you microdose you'll get the same effects as if you don't microdose so... It's like Flowers for Algernon at best you can't keep doing it and you'll probably have to get laser hair removal. Other boring things that are detracting from the post.



    This isn't my aesthetic actually but I like this song.

    Why is this video age restricted? Am I missing something? There's no nudity and I don't think any swearing? It's just a kind of weird video. And it's got the whole 1990s-2000 gold paint + surrealism + religious symbolism + purple vivid blue sky + that kind of colour scheme vibe like many others (a bunch of them also used tree and plant aesthetics):













    There are many more with this vibe but I don't remember them all now. I made a post about this on another forum before lol.

    The conspiracy against femdoms continues. This is the video:



    Edit: Also yeah I got very distracted/stopped watching the video after Louise Perry said the line about how men vary more in their sociosexual orientation (allegedly,) and some men are 'basically like lesbians.' Will probably go back to it eventually at some point.

    YouTube adverts over the past several months:

    pregnancy tests

    British armed forces ads.

    I really feel like you know me. /s

    (yeah there have been a bunch of other things but those two just amuse me.)
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Did I just see a meme with a weird looking soldier with a lapel pin of a pair of red panties?

    I don't think I'd want to see ANY soldier with a red panties lapel pin. That's not a badge of honor.

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    I find research on sexology and trans people interesting and since I along with many people have noticed many things anecdotally (and sometimes in research,) like the higher rate of autism, ADHD, fantasy interests, certain career and university subject backgrounds, sexual interests, certain physical features, and other physical conditions even - it's interesting to see that explored.

    However I also sort of feel like if fascists get back into power (the full blown kind it's bad enough as it is,) they're going to use this to start sticking people in concentration camps again and use research like this to do this. I suppose... If people notice things anecdotally they'd do it anyway though. But if you've had your genetics tested than they could get access to that.

    I can also see them potentially teaming up with the conspiracy magical thinking types like Alex Jones who are convinced alien elf pedophile vampire demons etc are real and are living among us (or there are hybrids,) on Earth.... This is the same kind of thing people see when they do dmt and hallucinogens because those drugs overlap with the experience of magical thinking. Of course he has an answer for that I suppose lol:





    'I have not taken it [dmt] for obvious reasons'

    Because your brain works that way by default? xD

    I just keep thinking about how much mythology brings up elves and fairies and stuff and that doctor keeps using it as a metaphor, also how 'fairy' is a slur for gay men:

    There are various reasons given for the fairies' penchant for stealing human children. Some tales imply that the young mortals are destined for lives as servants or slaves, or are kept (in the manner of pets) for the amusement of their fairy masters. Some stories (in echo of the folk ballad Tam Lin) suggest a darker purpose: that the faeries must pay a tithe of blood to the devil every seven years, and prefer to pay with mortal blood rather than blood of their own. In some traditions, however, it's simply the beauty of the children that attracts the fairies, who also kidnap pretty young women, artists, and musicians. The ability of fairies to procreate is a debatable issue in fairy lore. Some stories maintain that the fairies do procreate, though not as often as humans. By occasionally interbreeding with mortals and claiming mortal babes as their own, they bring new blood into Fairyland and keep their bloodlines strong. Other tales suggest that they cannot breed, or do so with such rarity that jealousy of human fertility is the motive behind child-theft.
    Doesn't this describe the way a lot of people talk about trans and sometimes left wing people more generally in the current culture war?

    Really when you listen to Alex Jones speak a lot of what he says and other conspiracy theorists too is just drawing from the same framework as fairies etc from European folklore. Pretty sure at one point on Joe Rogan he said that 'some of the aliens are good and some bad.'

    "The Irish believe that the fairies are the fallen angels who were cast down by the Lord God out of heaven for their sinful pride. And some fell into the sea, some on the dry land, and some fell deep down into hell. But the fairies of the earth and the sea are mostly gentle and beautiful creatures, who will do no harm if they are let alone" (3)

    [...]

    Lady Wilde?s "gentle and beautiful creatures" seem a long way from the warriors of the s?d at Cruachan. Many folktales do not regard them as gentle either. The title daoine maithe, "good people", is given to them to guard against accidental offence. However, not all fairy lore can be directly attributed to the De Danann. There is limited evidence to indicate that the De Danann were worshiped in the Classical manner. Continental imports, (our "shiny foreigners"), such as Lugh are another matter. Roman influence was greater in Britain and on the Continent but largely absent in Ireland and this seems to have made a difference. There Some late charms and prayers calling upon occasional D? Danann characters can be identified, and at least one, Gobniu, has achieved canonisation as St Goban. But these charms give them equivalence to saints rather than to gods.
    There's also a song about this:



    Hollow Hills are scattered all over the landscapes of The United Kingdom, Ireland and other places in Continental Europe. These Hollow Hills are chambered burial mounds. They are also sometimes called barrows, passage tombs, fairy mounds or chambered cairns.

    It is said that ancient peoples often thought that these mounds were a place between this world and the other world. It was thought that the gods or ancestors resided in these mounds and this was a place to meet with and honour them.

    In Irish mythology they are thought to be the remains of the underground kingdom. In the Lebor Gabala Erenn (The Book of Invasions), the Tuatha De Danann (The People of the Goddess Danu) were defeated in battle by the Milesians. As part of the terms of the battle, the Tuatha De Danann agreed to dwell underground in the mounds that can be found all over the Irish landscape.
    I don't know if there's any truth to this most likely not since it seems like some kind of folklore in itself but some people claim that fairy stories came from neanderthal and other almost-Human species that have died out. I think a bunch of inspiration also came from hallucinogens probably.

    Also the Nazis were very into occultism but I haven't explored that fully that's just something I'm loosely aware of. Maybe should look into it more to compare to what's happening now. Alex Jones is not a fan of the Nazis but he believes that Nazis were communicating with aliens and that 'aliens walk among us.'



    Seems to me that Alex just snorted a load of coke and watched Captain America First Avenger and repeat
    Lol yeah a lot of what he comes out with is just knock off Marvel plotlines mixed with mythology/folklore and people's DMT experiences (hallucinogens probably inspired some mythology and folklore.)

    Someone who was actually born in Nazi Germany said a while back that there's no doubt in his mind that what's happening to trans people in the US is a genocide. I don't remember his name though so I'm not sure if I can find that now. I saw a clip of him saying it on twitter and found his YouTube channel later on.

    More worryingly this webpage about this syndrome has a section about Ashkenazi Jewish people:

    https://kate.meyerhome.net/blog/2023...enore-syndrome

    MTHFR alleles and Ashkenazi Jews with 21-OHD

    The following is interesting and suggests further study, but by itself doesn?t result in any conclusions.

    Ashkenazi Jews have the highest amount of 21-OHD at 1:27 https://doi.org/10.1210/jc.2006-1645 A noteworthy quote from the paper: ?Interestingly, whereas the prevalence of NC21OHD (Non-classical 21-hydroxylase deficiency) in Ashkenazi Jews is high, there is no increased prevalence of the severe classical form of 21-OHD in this population? Searching for a study with MTHFR https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10494095/ "The rate of C677T among the Ashkenazi Jewish alleles was 47.7% as compared to 28.7% among the alleles from the non-Jewish population." And another study on the prevalence of APO e4 allele in Israeli ethnic groups https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10955124/
    So I went to the subreddit and noticed some discussion:

    It's not hard to see why my skin is falling apart. The more you read down the list, the worse it gets. I have heds, pots, mthfr, am Ashkenazi, bisexual. I fit Meyers powers syndrome probably very well. There are obviously some smart people on this forum who know about genes involved in hormones. I have my whole genome sequencing. If anyone is willing to look through the snps for things that might affect cell to cell adhesion, hormone metabolism. My skin cells are basically just dying and seperating. My high dht post dutasteride, finastride and minoxidil are in my last post. No idea baseline for any hormones previous. Here are the resulting categories from the study attached. You have to open it to see all of the categories. If anyone is willing to help me while I wait for an appointment please dm me.
    And of course those in the transgender community should have a higher chance of getting Alzheimer's Sex and gender differences in risk scores for dementia and Alzheimer's disease among cisgender, transgender, and non-binary adults You can also look across the LGBTQ as well as some ethnicity overlaps and see fun correlations such as with Ashkenazi Jews.

    [...]

    Gender dysphoria, the entire LGBT, and Alzheimer's are all very intimately and obviously tied together once someone shines a light on the system as a whole.
    I find this very depressing because it's nice to understand yourself more, but not nice to be persecuted. I don't trust doctors with anything like this... Even if they don't advocate for that eventually various diagnoses can be used against you unfortunately.

    Bear in mind that there are books being published right now like that one by Edward Dutton 'spiteful mutants' and a book about judging people based on physical phenotype... I think his conclusions about the traits associated with his disliked groups (which includes LGBT+ people,) are often the opposite though so with enough 'noise' that becomes less of a problem potentially.

    Alex Jones Claims Aliens Want to Make Humans Into 'Cyborg Slaves of Satan'
    "I declare this July 4, 2022, to be a declaration of independence against the alien force on this planet today," Jones said. "[Aliens] are waging war against humans and their biology and our future. That is attempting to exterminate the majority of us and force the minority that is left to merge with AI computers and become cyborg slaves of Satan."
    You don't have to do anything. The point is individual control. Well at least for most people. You can tap out if things are moving too fast for you. Just like how Amish people live without most technology. I think he knows this though but he can't get away from it like an addiction so he doesn't feel in control. I mean he has videos talking about how people should be in nature etc and I think there was a paper suggesting that being in nature reduces schizophrenia symptoms. It's pretty important in general being raised in an urban environment increases mental health issues. One advantage to living where I do is I can walk into the countryside in 15 minutes if I want to but I can also get a train to London and be there in like 45-50 minutes maybe on a fast train and that includes time spent walking to station (well you know if trains weren't stupidly expensive.) Of course that doesn't matter if you don't leave the house much xD

    I see this thought process leaking in more low key ways into mainstream thought. Jordan Peterson uses similar rhetoric but watered down a bit you know he talks about sex workers merging with machines, people merging with machines, demonic machine-Human hybrids, people being controlled by sex goddesses and things like that there's then this network of thought where people connect androgynous sex goddesses (similar to inanna,) drag queens, Slaanesh, female sex workers etc together and criticise those groups of people, and then these ideas kind of spread getting more watered down so the magical thinking is mostly removed (though I don't know how long that's going to last with the way things are going,) but the bigotry is still there. There's a film clip and I'm not sure what film it's from.. Oh wait found it I thought it was a young Ryan Gosling:

    Daniel Balint (Ryan Gosling) is a yeshiva-educated young Jewish man in New York who rejects his heritage and chooses to become a neo-Nazi skinhead.


    This is actually what fascists believe. They connect femininity and atypical sexualities in men or amab people with being Jewish. Lots of people follow the same ideology though without including Jewish people and just go after feminine men and trans women. And even though this is bullshit you can tell the film is also framing the sexual stuff as a good thing since you're not supposed to agree with Gosling's character. But when fascists take this clip they're like 'this is true and it's bad.'

    Also obviously most of these traits like having wanderlust and not identifying with the nation you live in are incredibly common. Describes most millennials really and most aren't Jewish... Like a lot of that stuff applies to me and I'm not Jewish afaik. (If I am it's must be an inconsequentially small part as I don't know about it.) My family background is a mixture of white European stuff and my families religious background is Catholic. I'd guess that if you're any kind of minority group or have a mixed heritage you might find it more difficult to identify with nationalism and the country you live in. I certainly did growing up. I always wanted to move somewhere else when I was younger, but then some people go the opposite direction. My dad is pretty nationalistic and his mum wasn't born or raised in the UK.

    Some members of the far right think being Jewish is a kind of 'spiritual/personality thing' I think Evola argued that:

    Evola's antisemitism did not emphasise the Nazi conception of Jews as "representatives of a biological race", but rather as "the carriers of a world view, a way of being and thinking--simply put, a spirit--that corresponded to the 'worst' and 'most decadent' features of modernity: democracy, egalitarianism and materialism", Wolff writes.
    But the common thread is that they don't like the traits they sometimes ascribe to being Jewish and think people with those traits are evil and that's mostly what I want people to unpack. Because it's one thing to just say 'well it's not Jewish people, there are actually lots of evil people. It's just a way of thinking.' Then you remove Jewish people from your bigotry (at least in an essentialised way,) but your bigotry remains.

    "The Jew is essentially female."
    Finally some truth on YouTube.
    I wonder what Ryan Gosling was thinking when he was spouting all this knowledge. Did he think It was just for the movie or did he actually understand all the truth relative to his statements?
    It's an interesting portrayal of a self hating minority character of which there are many today but if I actually watched the whole film I think I'd still probably prefer Final Fantasy VII. We don't have Cloud.

    Of course you have figures like Candace Owens. You also have that guy from vibecamp:

    This is not to say that I'm an example of manliness. In many ways, I'm more feminine than most of my cohort, even the apologetic progressive ones (and particularly the ultra-competitive gay ones). But that's also why I can see this better than most. Because I started as soft as they come.

    Besides physical weaknesses (extremely severe asthma) and beyond environmental factors (being the only child of ultra-progressive theater academics), gentleness and uncompetitiveness came to me naturally. As a child, I thought of myself as an angel. For Halloween one year, I asked my parents for an angel costume, which they of course eagerly obliged. I felt pure benevolence toward my fellow children. One of my earliest memories is sitting in the lap of the one black kid at my elite Chicago private school, a fat boy, and I felt overwhelmed by love and pity toward him. During theater class, I laid on the floor in a cross position and felt like the messiah. I told people I had ESP.

    Over time the angel fell to earth, trampled as we all are by the unfairness of life. My parents moved us to Evanston and sent me to a public school. We lived on the poorer side of town, and nearly all my friends were black. At first I refused to fight, but over time I learned that memories of one's own cowardice hurt more than bruises. Scales grew.

    Later, I went to a college known for rich Jewish kids. I joined the harshest fraternity and slept on a floor covered with sticky beer and glass shards for seven straight days. I was mocked for theatrical mannerisms; the brothers called me "thespian." The self-regard bled out. I learned to interpret my feelings of uniqueness as narcissism, and to hate them when I perceived them in others. I learned to turn off the tender worry and to allow pure molten fury to take over. The softness morphed, slowly and over many years, into hardness.

    To our fat, weak, feminine world, the above will read as sad or tragic. Therapy speak has no word for "good trauma." But I don't see it that way. I see it as beautiful. Muscle grows from damage, not vice versa. Hardening the softness is what it means to grow up.
    Tweets from his twitter account:

    I've been saying for years that liberal "cultural" Jewish organizations are going to one day soon go too far in threatening and harassing people who disagree with them, and the good Jews among us will be the ones who pay the price, as has always happened over and over again in history.

    [...]

    The only answer here in my view is for "cultural Jews" to either stop pretending to be Jewish and accept their whiteness or to accept their religion and study the Torah, which is what God wants them to do instead of shilling for transgender surgery and open borders. Study Torah. This is the answer.
    Wtf is a 'cultural Jew?' Exactly.

    It really does boil down to a belief that we are, as @0x49fa98
    says, a semi omnipotent hivemind.

    Bro--do you realize that the most deracinated people on earth are Jewish AWFLs? My cousins married random LinkedIn minorities, obvious gentile gays, or are now trans. Everything whites suffer from Jews also suffer from; perhaps even worse.
    That guy he's mentioning in bold I've been blocked by him on one account lol. He's quite insane and has a HP Lovecraft avatar. I believe I was blocked by him after responding to his tweets about how all women should be castrated or something. I don't remember the details now since it's been a long while but he's a misogynist attention whore/troll (though also racist etc,) and if you search his tweets it's not hard to find that lol:

    I don?t give a [BEEP] about jews. They really aren't that important

    By building them up as the ultimate evil, you are feeding into their group narcissism and worse, you're letting women off the hook

    Women are the font of all evil in the world, and jews are just their puppets
    The funny thing about this is that he complains about simps but then claims that women have all the power in the world and are the most important people. It might be on purpose. If not it's kind of a classic mistake.

    Fascists decided to continue hating on Jewish people obviously:

    This just makes you sound even more jewish and now gay too, like the rest of your clique.
    This post exemplifies the subversive nature of Bronze Age Pervert and his associates, they want to redirect you from racial consciousness to misogyny.

    "Zero HP Lovecraft" is probably a Jew and wants White men to redirect their antisemitism onto White women to get the heat off his tribe and encourage maladaptive sexual behaviours that stop you from breeding.
    And then you know a bunch of tweets about Jewish people being women and/or feminine

    Women wish to ruin everything. No matter what it is, no matter how healthy or good, women will take your best instincts and turn them into a millstone around your neck.
    Then why are you married? Doesn't your wife ruin everything?
    yes but I love her in spite of this
    Does she not contribute to your life at all? What's the point of marriage then lol
    of course she does? Why do people think in such a silly, reductive way?
    He said women ruin everything I don't know why he's confused about the reaction. Or maybe this is just him admitting he's a masochist so it's kind of a paradox.

    "You're not allowed to go to Mars. Maybe if you do your chores I'll think about it"

    HP Lovecraft guy:

    every day I think I can't hate women more and they find a new way. Twitter is progressive overload for misogyny
    I'm leaning into the theory that white women might have been the leading cause for the Age of Exploration, and not in any way they would be proud of.

    "To hell with 'em lads. Lets load up the ship. We'll find treasure or sail off the world looking for it."
    "we need to find some nicer women"
    Lol. But that is something to be proud of actually. Imagine being 'cucked' enough to put up with you guys.

    It's amazing how many guys will nod along with my racism, my fat-shaming, my (justified) dislike of homo- and transexuals, but then I say something mean about women and they turn into screeching concern-trolling shitlibs

    Most men longhouse themselves
    It's more fun to antagonize women on twitter than blacks but I like to give everyone a turn
    He can't take it though. That's why he blocked me lol. Or maybe this is why:

    I can't really pick a favorite. Trans-"phobia" is the least fun but the most popular and necessary
    They should be mercilessly mocked and bullied, but just gawking and clutching pearls does nothing. They and their sympathizers have infiltrated the highest levels of corporations and governments and there?s really nothing funny about it
    Either way. I'm not really clear about being non-binary or my gender in that twitter profile (as in there's nothing about it in my bio also no pronouns etc,) and I tweet about various topics but often trans stuff, and my avatar is more masculine.

    I don't play warhammer but I admire how deeply engineered it is to prevent any possibility of female infiltration
    Odd given that I do know women who play Warhammer
    It really isn't they're just sleeping on Slaanesh. I once photoshopped tyranids pink and glittery to mess with my ex when we were in a relationship. I started the invasion. This was before I knew Slaanesh existed too which makes it funnier. Actually no I guess I'd heard his name then but I only heard her referred to using female pronouns and I think heard he was basically some hypersexual + bdsm being (which is reductive,) and no other details. I mean that's what everyone remembers/stands out but that's not really the point. He likes pink though.

    Its sacred number is six and the colours associated with Slaanesh are riotous purples, pinks and black.
    I was thinking of starting a Slaanesh army. I know slaanesh main color scheme is pink and black, but just asking to male slaanesh players, does anyone make fun of you when you have a army painted pink? I just wanted to ask this before I started a slaanesh army. Also are there any other ways of painting slaanesh besides pink and purple? Thx!
    As I said. I probably relate to Tzeentch more though anyway. Like this:

    Slaanesh: You get where you're going, but now that you're there, you decide that further down the road looks even better.

    Tzeentch: You aren't ready to leave yet. You gotta make sure you're packed, and there's gas in the car, and you've gotta check the weather at your destination, and what if a meteor strikes, and have you packed a life-raft for your overland trip and...

    Nurgle: Why bother? Here is surely just as good as over there, so lets just sit here.

    Khorne: Who cares where you're going? Kill everyone.
    That's reductive too but made me laugh.

    The warhammer comment was in response to some trans guy who posted a video of himself complaining about men's toilets. Tbh his complaints were weird like he started off saying that it's so boring in the men's toilets where he works (lack of plants, soap etc,) then said he complained to male coworkers who said 'that's just how it is. It's boring to be a man' then he said 'we don't have to accept that I've been on the other side. Colourless misery doesn't have to be a secondary sex characteristic.' Honestly has never really been on my mind when using a public toilet in general. I want to get in and out as quickly as possible. Although my mum said one of her friends takes photos of public restrooms so apparently that's a thing some people do now.

    Anyway HP Lovecraft guy and others took offence 'women are invading our spaces' and someone else responded:

    Very Jewish tbh
    Like clockwork everytime someone says something feminine.

    Maletroons are better at this than femtroons
    The maletroon closely observes the female in her spaces to learn her habits and better emulate her, to become more like a women himself
    The femtroon doesn't have the selfawareness to attempt this and just wants the space changed
    they expose their erections though
    They need to to see how women react when exposed to different stimuli, so that they can learn what to do in the same situation
    Femtroons consistently fail at emulating men because their female brains never thinks of doing things like this, only of making others more female
    Trans women are not necessarily more feminine which is what they're getting at. Also it's much easier to fail at being a man and then be considered a woman then the reverse obviously. People are doing this constantly with entire races of men.

    But also wait until they realise feminising men is a common kink I think especially for afab trans people.

    HP Lovecraft guy already knows I'm sure.

    I AM NOT A FAN OF WOMEN.
    That guy (not HP Lovecraft guy someone else,) typed it in all caps so you know it's serious.

    The favorite pastime of "trans men" is to lecture actual men about how theirs is a fake & toxic kind of masculinity & that transmen - i.e. women who've been on testosterone for a couple of months - can teach men a better, more sensitive way of being REAL men. They're insufferable
    Tbf they got that idea from cis women. Liberal cis women are replacing you with trans men now.

    My favourite pass times are actually listening to music, posting a running commentary of all my thoughts and rarely interacting with people, playing certain video games, daydreaming, going to concerts, going on long walks rarely, and porn stuff. I also make YouTube videos about surreal gaming stuff etc but that's not really a pass time but something I should be spending more time doing.

    And pretending I manipulated Ben Shapiro into watching the Barbie film to get my attention which on a collective level I/we did I guess. Same with the Russian government freaking out about The Sims.

    I bet you ftm transsexuals never think about Ancient Rome
    What if they think about Elegabalus? I know he was trying to be a woman, but still probably 1 in a 1000 think about Elegabalus.
    Elagabalus stans weepin rn
    I think about Elagabalus a lot. Especially this which is probably a lie:

    In a banqueting-room with a reversible ceiling he once buried his guests in violets and other flowers, so that some were actually smothered to death, being unable to crawl out to the top.[4]
    And how he prostituted himself to commoners etc.

    The Vestals were unlike any other public priesthood. They were chosen before puberty from a number of suitable candidates, freed from any legal ties and obligations to their birth family, and enrolled in Vesta's priestly college of six priestesses. They were supervised by a senior vestal but chosen and governed by Rome's leading male priest, the Pontifex maximus; in the Imperial era, this meant the emperor.
    Severa was a Vestal Virgin and, as such, her marriage to Elagabalus in late 220 was the cause of enormous controversy - traditionally, the punishment for breaking the thirty-year vow of celibacy was death by being buried alive.[1] Elagabalus is believed to have had religious reasons for marrying Severa - he himself was a follower of the eastern sun god El-Gabal, and when marrying himself to Severa, he also conducted a symbolic marriage of his god to Vesta.[2]
    It's a little weird because he didn't have long hair in the statue images I've seen and I'm not sure that's quite worth risking being buried alive when you're a repressed trans guy + you have to wonder if he even bottoms for women or just men I can't imagine he did which is so underwhelming and again not worth getting buried alive. Tbh nothing is worth getting buried alive. Absolutely nothing is known about her story since a lot of stuff is just exaggerated or straight up lies from enemies etc even most of the stuff about him is probably lies. So I might as well make it up. In most cultures women who go along with that kind of role are often people who are or would be GNC, lesbians, asexual, non-binary, trans guys etc. Depending on the culture/time period etc. Tbh most trans guys would just try to live stealth as male but if you can't pull that off but you're some other shade of [BEEP] then some people would go for that (same with Balkan sworn virgins and joining the catholic church etc.) You have to be a particular kind of person really to go along with these kind of rules even considering the perks:

    If you'd been paying attention, I mentioned that a Vestal Virgin was chosen. Ah! Up until now, nothing about the life of a Vestal virgin seems appealing. It seems like a sacrifice of your will to save your skin. But Licinia's story sheds some light on the privileges that a Vestal virgin enjoyed and the power that came with it.

    Unlike other women in Ancient Rome, the Vestals were emancipated from their family's patriarchal power and had the right to own property by themselves. They could make their own wills and could also give evidence in a court of law without taking an oath.

    Well, they had all these perks but the price?- 30 years of enforced Chastity and if found guilty of breaking her vow, she would be buried alive since it was forbidden to shed the blood of a Vestal Virgin.
    Eventually I guess people got tired of being told they can't have sex though. But the sexual revolution didn't fix the problem and so now we're working on destroying nature instead because gay men seem to be having more fun, and Louise Perry is not amused. Wooo.

    This is a good time to live though because you have all the images + gifs etc of cute guys + audio porn. Back then well probably not I'm not checking dates and if you lived in ancient Greece you just had to ask Sappho to write you some poem and Adonis didn't have long hair either I don't think. Why even get out of bed? I think that's why she chucked herself off a cliff tbh.

    Uh in my early 20s I almost read Meditations (by Marcus Aurelius,) but I don't like to read so I think I just read quotes and watched some videos about stoicism. It's important to note that the only reason I almost did that was because I was very into Spock in the Star Trek reboot films.

    no they're busy fapping to ancient greece
    they're really into ancient Greece from my minimal interaction
    =D

    I'm actually not a transsexual though. Also I don't really think about ancient Greece besides Sappho and greek mythology and Plato's 5 regimes. I haven't read Republic obviously. I'll think about anything if it's referenced in a song but I actually was reading about that before this song:



    I liked contrasting that with modern Anglosphere politics at one point I guess in 2016-2017 or something. This song came out in 2018 and it was before then but not long before then. The only reason I know about Boudica (and the many different ways people spell that name,) is because of Enya:



    That's tangentially related to the Roman empire too I guess. I think about her a lot.

    Someone dug up this. Definitely needs more pixels:



    I prefer to think about non-binary and androgynous figures even though they are always typecast as being trans women. Or women. In the same way Jewish people are considered women. I don't really let myself feel sad because masculinity is a purity cult so you can't really win. That's why Slaanesh and Khorne hate each other.

    I had the same thought

    Then I wondered "what does that say about guys who also don?t think about Rome?"
    You neurotically wondered if trans guys think about ancient Rome? I think you're the only people who have ever thought anything about trans guys. Besides the 2 trans women I stumbled on who had a thing for trans guys (but it was more like any trans masc people I guess and some androgynous women.)

    I don't think about Rome wtf is this meme
    You're a trans guy now.

    My brother was talking about this meme the other day actually lol.

    ...

    In terms of body habitus, the skinny low muscular ones tend to look like LOTR elves. They have high angular facial features and even somewhat look like a pointed ear. The lesbians that come out as transgender men that look like little pixies, they start on testosterone and suddenly become gay transgender men are this type 1 phenotype, the tall spindly 6'4 transgender woman with no muscle mass will have an absolutely enormous Adam's apple, and significantly above average length penis is the same variant but in MTF.
    You should see the Facebook post on my practice Facebook page where I include the part about coding and IT and fantasy as well as part of the differential lol.

    I think these people live in a state of being faintly dissociated all the time. They are not as locked into their mech as normies. As a result they're sort of aware of the fact that they're piloting a body around a reality. The concept of a fantasy reality that is different from this one is not implausible to their brain. As a result, fiction media tends to appeal to them a lot more, as does order and structure of things. Hence the trope of the MTF IT Admin / Coder.

    Have you ever noticed the like rural straight dude at the bar's response to dungeons and dragons? "What is all this stupid goblins and elves and shit. It's pointless, it's dumb, it's not even real".

    They're just a different phenotype, and they're locked more into the matrix. They can't really envision anything beyond this one, and subsequently, are unaware of the fact that they're piloting a meat sack.

    I really do think these differences in perception of reality and fantasy and coding and so on are all genetic. I'm trying to elucidate specifically what genes.
    It's fun until it's not I guess.

    This is a really insane timeline. Except I have this feeling that we keep repeating it.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I probably just need a nap lol

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    I remember seeing this video and thought it was weird. The peoples eyes and the contortions.....scary.

    What stood out to me most is the action that is also a play on words..... At 2:32, it is clearly a "Barbie-cue" hahaha.

    Don't try this at home, kidz!

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