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    From what I've noticed here your OK if you don't question women rights in any way.

    It's basically a groundhog day scenario where the same point is brought up over and over but no workable solutions are allowed to be discussed.

    Afghanistan is actually putting solutions in place right now to increase the child production rates of its women but just even saying it would be a good idea to see if stripping women of rights improves the situation in that country will get you downvotes.

    A solution is a solution even if you don't like it. No amount of gaslighting can evade the truth.

    Basically this subreddit is very closed minded right now and is clamping down on freedom of thought which is really dissapointing.
    I think any civilisation that has to resort to that should collapse. Afghanistan's regime specifically should on priciple be overthrown by the women and transformed into a matriarchy. It won't be, but it should be.


    Perhaps wait for an opportunity when they're distracted with some kind of war, and then take power. That seems to be the blueprint:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_...tion_for_Peace

    In 2003 during the Second Liberian Civil War, Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace forced a meeting with President Charles Taylor and extracted a promise from him to attend peace talks in Ghana[6] to negotiate with the rebels from Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy and Movement for Democracy in Liberia. A delegation of Liberian women went to Ghana to continue to apply pressure on the warring factions during the peace process.[7]

    Two hundred women surrounded the room, dressed in white, dominating the conversation. Any time the negotiators tried to leave, the women threatened to take off all of their clothes. Enclosed in the room with the women, the men would try to jump out of the windows to escape their talk. But the women persisted, staging a sit in outside of the Presidential Palace. They blocked all the doors and windows and prevented anyone from leaving the peace talks without a resolution.

    The women of Liberia became a political force against violence and against their government. Their actions brought about an agreement during the stalled peace talks. As a result, the women were able to achieve peace in Liberia after a 14-year civil war and later helped bring to power the country's first female head of state, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf.[7] When President Ellen Sirleaf first came into office, she made women's rights one of her priorities. Her administration focused on the condition of women in Liberia and their needs.[8]

    Some of the changes she made involved: putting more women in office, establishing the Women's Legislative Caucus, a multiparty committee in the House of Representatives that ensures a gender-sensitive approach to the legislature, and creating The Inheritance Act, an act that made rights of inheritance for spouses of statutory and customary marriages. Under President Sirleaf, rape, a prominent weapon of war, was also made punishable with a maximum sentence of life in prison.[8]

    Not saying this is a matriarchy obviously I just think Islamist men deserve to be ruled in an authoritarine regime by women for at least a decade. But the above is also a decent goal.

    The leadership under the Taliban is unlikely to be very intelligent they're mostly depending on brute force so...


    Maybe this is useful? I feel like they'd actually believe you:


    Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace is a peace movement started in 2003 by women in Monrovia, Liberia, Africa, that worked to end the Second Liberian Civil War.[1] Organized by Crystal Roh Gawding and social workers Leymah Gbowee and Comfort Freeman, the movement began despite Liberia having extremely limited civil rights. Thousands of Muslim and Christian women from various classes mobilized their efforts, staged silent nonviolence protests that included a sex strike and the threat of a curse.
    Lol "If we force women to live traditional lives where they have no other options/alternatives they will live traditional lives."

    Groundbreaking stuff.

    My modest proposal.

    Let's put all men in work camps to support women and their babies. They can be the mindless drones to support the queen bees.

    No need to receive pay. No need to vote
    I think radfemhitler came up with something like this on twitter yeah lol.

    I mean "we're just discussing ideas right?"


    Actually some men liked radfemhitler's idea and seemed to think women wouldn't and would go insane without men. Personally I would create a regime where most guys are stuck doing feminine stuff because I'm actually evil.


    If I wanted to punish one of these guys I'd put them in the office of an all-female skincare company in Australia that makes cringy dance videos like this one they were all freaking out about before and claiming it was why Trump won... Even though it was in Australia:


    A small all-female australian skincare company posted a silly tiktok, it went viral and got a load of misogynistic discourse about how women should be subjugated
    I doubt I can find a clip on YT to embed so. It attracted the most insane 'longhouse discourse' accounts though.

    Tbh they're already mostly living their nightmares anyway.

    "Not a female majority work place. No NO NOOOOOO."


    All fun and games until they spend 5 people's yearly salaries for a team building activity that's just tarot reading and non-alcoholic drinks at a "witch hut" in downtown Chicago.
    ^ this is hilariously specific and I want it to be the title of an album or something.

    They shoudnt be allowed to do this in the work place. Should be at home tending to the house or at grown-up playgrounds running around and dancing and playing
    I feel sheer fear of having to listen to / be exposed to this kind of non-funny 'jokes' and giggles.
    And then having to have some kind of socially acceptable response. A nightmare. I think I would need to watch some good stand-up comedy clip just to recover.
    We must fight this eviI until it is eradicated.
    They are poisoning the blood of our country
    Because we all have to work with these types and they do absolutely nothing.
    Can we get the Glee generation out of politics now?
    Imagine being the IT support guy in that office aka the lone male.
    The IT support guy has programmer socks and a blahaj plushie though. Jokes that most people won't get.

    they're all on the pill and had at least 20 abortions between them
    Same ones who will report you to HR if they believe you looked at them wrong.
    These women can't pair bond stay far away
    Yeah exactly, please stop doing it. Something women don't seem to understand is that while straight women appreciate guys chopping wood or throwing stones or whatever, the female version is this. It's awful. It is painful to witness. Please keep it private.
    date men
    I agree. I have a gay fictional character who's like a hermit who lives alone in the woods and is very masculine who I think would be perfect for you.


    No the femininity and show tunes will be forced on you Charlie until morale improves:







    *takes notes*


    *lots of silly cute stuff*

    *lack of productivity/lots of socialising*

    *forced participation*

    *Megan Thee Stallion twirking*

    *Glee*

    *tiktok trend stuff*

    *esoteric witchy stuff. Astrology most likely*

    *non alcoholic drinks. Cocktails??? Fruity drinks*

    *glitter???*



    Of all the layers of Hell 😳
    I don't have their personality type and honestly wouldn't enjoy what they're doing either but I might have to reconsider.


    These women are the reason why Muslims hate us.
    I should hope so.


    It'sgonna be so wonderful not to see these any longer. The moment he won was Butler..when they tried to steal this great man from us.

    ...You think Trump is going to save you from cringy Australian social media content? Oh dear.


    When women are alone together they dorkiply. It's an old form of dorkish magic that's similar to multiplication but only it's 4 times stronger. Here you can see the dork magic is so powerful they went into an unbridled dorklust. A fugue state where they feel an in controllable urge to recite ancient dorkish incantations, in combination with an eastern magic spell called "tiktok", which is something far more darker and far more devilish indeed. Very few have found success quenching their dorklust, aye. I have heard tall tales that one might be able to break a spell such as this by casting a spell of "starting fake infidelity rumors about her friends"... Stay safe weary travelers.

    That's just funny.


    Well it's ironic when Western men get stuck in the military they tend to end up crossdressing, or watching MLP or Frozen. Many such cases.


    North Korean men end up watching porn in Ukraine hahaha. Allegedly (unproven but according to the if it's funny it's true rule, technically true.)





    I found this video on twitter and I like that I found it on YouTube just by searching basically the title of this video lol.


    It's giving Kino cigarette vibes:




    Oh that's Slowdive? The band with the aesthetic female singer/guitarist?








    Rachel Goswell. I just saw some photo of her once a long time ago which stuck in my head lol without bothering to ever listen to their music.....


    Yeah she's in this Drab Majesty song too:




    Her father taught her folk guitar songs from the age of seven, and she began studying classical guitar and music theory at age ten.[2] Goswell took classical guitar lessons along with childhood friend Neil Halstead, with whom she formed Slowdive in 1989.[3] She was influenced, from a singing point of view, by Siouxsie Sioux",[4] "it was [she] who made me want to be a singer."[5] Joni Mitchell, Iggy Pop and Nick Cave were her other favorite singers.[6] Goswell was also inspired by the Cocteau Twins; she discovered their music at 16 and "found myself immersed in the magic and wonder of their overall sound musically."[7] The songs that influenced her the most were: "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" by The Smiths, "92 Degrees" from Siouxsie and the Banshees' Tinderbox album, "Persephone" from Cocteau Twins' Treasure album and "River" by Joni Mitchell.[8]

    Not bad but I prefer Persephone by Dead Can Dance.


    I liked The Smiths song mostly because of the edgy lyrics when I first read them in someone's bio as a teenager lol:





    I like these songs more though (actually not sure I like all of them more. Well I like all of them):







    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SckD99B51IA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8v0JVJOA2Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGcNW9OQ3g0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I fell down another weird rabbit hole that I started investigating.

    what's the deal with "Miladys" and "Remilia"? specifically on twitter?

    i keep seeing people say these two words and i think Miladys are some sort of NFT but i cant really find what the sort of ideology is that is associated with it. most of the people with Milady profile pictures are like alt-right/general conservative/left with spirituality/esoteric vibes? i don't know how to explain it. by spirituality, i mean that subculture of people who eat raw meat, don't believe in sunscreen, avoid seed oils, and want traditional lifestyles. if you have no idea what subculture im talking about, you probably wouldn't be able to answer the question i guess. but if you're curious, click the link at the bottom for a large twitter account that conveys what i mean. its not just a twitter thing, though.

    im trying to really tell what kinda political vibes or if there are even political vibes (since ive seen so many political differences among posters) associated with this subculture and basically how it started? there are like probably 1000s of these accounts on twitter but i cant really find a good explanation of whats going on. a guy i followed on social media a few years ago has changed his whole social media presence to Remilia/esoteric stuff and reposts lots of people with Milady profile pictures. im just trying to tell what it means?

    [...]

    Yeah. I think the same. Though I also think it's fairly removed from the crowd you are thinking of but it all kind of jumbles together. And Remilia Scarlet is a character from Touhou but not seen any images of her specifically.


    https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11...ternet-person/

    Charlie's most infamous account was named "Miya Black Hearted Cyber Angel Baby" (@BPDGOD). He launched the character in 2017 as an experiment in depersonalized posting; his goal was to become the "most infamous thing on the network." The Miya character was known for elaborately canceling itself with the help of partner accounts, as if to make an obtuse commentary on mid-2010s cancel culture. Often, Miya played with obscure online philosophies by taking them to their logical extremes, taking aim at digital subcultures such as "pro-ana" (pro-anorexia) communities and transgender accelerationism.

    The effect was the internet encapsulated, the darkness of the deep web embodied by an eerie little girl.
    Despite Milady's reputation as a Gen Z project, the median attendee appeared to be a thirty-five-year-old man spaced out on some sort of drug. The couches by the stairs were crowded with mostly male attendees in various states of oblivion. One, bleary-eyed and wearing a red varsity jacket, watched me as I climbed the stairs.
    Online, I had watched potential attendees bragging about the various drugs they were going to do at the Milady rave. In person, the display was less bacchanalian than sad. I had a sudden feeling that I wanted to go home.
    Upstairs, I met a representative from Seed Oil Capital, one of the anonymous Twitter accounts pumping Milady, who was selling Milady t-shirts for $20 a pop. He had clear skin and dead, vacant eyes. I told him that I had seen Seed Oil on Twitter and he grunted in response. "Everybody loves me." After a few one-word exchanges, he asked for my Twitter handle so that he could "pump me as an e-girl." He slouched in his chair and told me, unprompted, that he doesn?t have many friends.
    The e-girl girl sitting across from us slurred "I have twenty-seven Miladys." She wore a Milady t-shirt and a dog collar as a necklace. Her legs spilled out of her fishnet tights. A few minutes later, her boyfriend came to the table wearing a hat that said "Please be patient, I have autism."

    The girl actually seemed quite nice, so I gave her my pitch of why I had thought Miladys were cool: using an anonymous profile picture allows you to freely express yourself on the internet and reclaim posting as a medium for connection. Technically, you can actually post anything you want on the internet; the only thing holding you back is reputational cost. Miladys are about supporting the old internet, the free internet.

    "You get it, I love that you get it." I didn't sense that she cared very much. Five minutes later she was sitting on the "I have autism" guy's lap, shaking her black tennis skirt into his jeans.
    Prior to becoming an internet person, Charlie was a relatively standard 4chan kid. He says that he wanted to be an artist and make internet art. He went to art school and studied architecture--with a specialty in furniture--then switched to a BFA. But he dropped out after realizing circa 2014 that the traditional art world had no interest in engaging with the anarchy of the internet. I asked him, somewhat seriously, about his favorite piece of furniture, and he showed me the Red and Blue chair by Gerrit Rietveld.
    As the night went on, he seemed to lose steam. Again and again, he described how Remilia was on the cutting edge of culture and how Milady was making the world a better place. He never clearly explains his earlier work--the supposed grooming cult, the esoteric extremism, and is indignant about his treatment at the hands of the insufficiently online. Isn?t it absurd they tried to cancel me? For an art project?

    I stayed with Charlie until one in the morning. The drinks wore off. We had talked for six hours and I was starting to feel a bit sick. He is just some internet person.



    "This remarkable, sometimes incoherent transcript illustrates a phantasmagoria of fear, terror, grief, exaltation and finally break down."


    That's what it feels like reading about this a bit lol. But with less emotion and more like a depressive drone.


    Apparently has some link to gender accelerationism as well and unsurprisingly Nick Land in general.


    This sounds sort of like g/acc. None of this really makes sense with any other part of it which I guess is par for the course these days:

    https://michellefederico.substack.co...ccelerationism

    There will be an attack, it will be transformative, and we will meet again on the other side. Up into the cloud we go? What exactly happens to us and our meatbags is not clearly articulated. What we do know for sure is that we will not be boys. And in the world of Remilia, this is essential.

    One defining feature of anything shared by Remilia is that their protagonist, their ideal type of being, whether fully or only partially human or entirely machine, is unmistakably feminine. We?re all going to live in the Afterlife Online, or as technologically optimised humanoids, and we?re all going to be GIRLS. Heavenly ones. With it/its pronouns, because if everyone is girl, there is no need for distinction. Pronouns are for humans, anyway. We?re leaving all that outdated stuff behind us.

    Hyper-Feminine Futurist Warfare

    Milady, the protagonist of the #BRG-verse and the alleged revolutionary subject of the future, threatens us with heart emojis and "love attacks" instead of machine guns. There is no intention of causing physical harm, although there "will be victims". Love attacks are a means of getting people to comply, to bring them to the side of Landian posthumanists so that we can all peacefully live in cyberspace - the "afterlife online". Jet fuel can?t melt steel beams - but love can. The way I read this, in the greater context of love attacks, is that it is unneeded and unpreferable to blow a whole building up if one can work with "glass shards in the organs" and "love bombs" to achieve the same goal - the reference to the feeling of emotional damage alludes to manipulation and attacks on people?s inner world, their feelings, which is considered the traditionally feminine form of engaging in conflict.

    Why are we all girls? Because BRG, being proudly cute/acc, carries cuteness at the core of its philosophy. Acceleration, in the eyes of Remilia and its followers, will be cute, it must be. Anything that isn't cute would slow down the high-speed accelerationist progress train we?re already sitting in, but we will get to this at a later point.

    To further explain the hyperfemininity aspect, let me introduce you to "Milady", the love attack bombing front line fighter in the battle for Landian accelerationism.
    Evolution Favours the Cute

    If I was to consider that in the way of standard historical religions like say Christianity I might consider it a denomination of g/acc it's more or less the same though with a slightly different focus. Cuteness instead of femaleness.


    I want compensation from everyone who accidentally thinks in similar ways to me by coincidence and schizotypy.


    A lot of the accounts are supporting Trump etc ironically or not is unclear. Whenever I'm looking up anything weird I always eventually end up back on r/sorceryofthespectacle lmao:


    What Was KaliAcc?

    A few of you may know about the former Internet movement known as KaliAcc, or Kali Yuga Accelerationism. From what i've gathered it seemed to have combined Landian accelerationism and Dark Enlightenment thought with Evola-type esotericism and angelic/vaporwave imagery. My online friend I know believe may have been involved in this, and may have suffered from the grooming and self-harm the group supported. My friend is a young trans girl and she made numerous references to KaliAcc during its peak. she'd always been interested in philosophy and deleuze and land and all that and I'm kinda worried she might have gotten groomed. regardless, do any of you know anything about what this was? seems very strange.
    Hella late reply - these people are really hard to gather information about. It seems to be their MO to disappear/reappear in some fringe circle of social media, with a fresh "rebrand" that somehow connects back to the shared ideology of miya or whoever the [BEEP] is miya at the time
    Lol. I wonder if these people know Nyx. I follow someone who apparently knew Nyx irl. They disappeared from twitter after various bannings and aren't really that active anymore (mostly due to not being on any mainstream social media I bother with though. I know they're on some other site but I think less actively.)

    C/Acc's proposal of returning to affect through what would be seen as traditionally alienating presents a Deleuzian reversal of the concept of alienation. Instead of arguing as land does that there will be smoothness in alienation they destroy the very binary of alienation.

    While this sounds very Baudrillardian, this too displaces the dominance of seduction, as there is no individuation of subject and object. Instead one is completely lost in the "cuteness" that dominates contemporary culture.
    Here, I'd posit that in c/acc the affect replaces the sign, not by escaping towards an outside it but replacing the focus of expressions altogether away from the sign to the affect produced by the aesthetic-terrorism.

    C/acc is presenting the Outside immanently with its usage of potentialities, multiplicities and stratification(notice how in the c/acc book there is plenty layered wordplay).

    Regarding culture, cute accelerationism destroys culture. According to Shulamith Firestone's definition of culture, c/acc is intensifying the cybernetic quality of the unification[elimination] of the Technological & Aesthetic modes of culture.

    Oh God. The droning bright electric yellow of it all. Philosophy remains a mistake.


    pro-tip: do NOT read more on it, forget this keyword even exists, clear all browser caches and hope the algorithm forgets you ever were associated with it. Your life will be better.
    this is true. i am too twitter brain to escape it myself unfortunately
    Lol prob for the best yeah.

    yeah i've seen lots of political/social commentary posts from that side of the internet and can just see it as crazy nonsense. but the guy i mentioned in my original post really made me want to learn wtf this was because these people's posts seem a bit more like actually crazy nonsense than typical "schiz0posting" or whatever people call it. and he?s a young guy that was fairly normal when i followed him on Tiktok.

    it isn't a surprise it has some history in pro-ana spaces bc lots of those spaces are 1. inherently obsessed with aesthetics (it's an eating disorder community so of course) and 2. usually have reactionary/mean-spirited/near sociopathic ideals b/c of how much they believe in beauty standards and harming yourself for them. i have been in ED online spaces in the past just bc of being a girl online and they have a racism problem and a (obvious) bullying problem. also 3. there are huge underground (?) communities of men who secretly follow the accounts of these pro-ana or even non-pro ana ED accounts b/c these girls are mentally ill and vulnerable and usually thin. online is a sick place especially for young people trying to find themselves.

    I'd imagine they try to infiltrate spaces occupied by autistic people too because it's connected to a surreal supremacy movement. There's a significant overlap between the two disorders in women.


    Milady tweet:

    I'm working three jobs so my future wife can stay home and look cute and be autistic

    Lol timely. YouTuber answers Steven Wilson's subtextual question:





    (I guess I haven't watched this video yet.)





    "You kind of excel in this particular department. I'm talking about religious cults. You're very good at that here."

    Nick Land like "Hold my beer I will found all American cults from this day forward and they will all have the suffix /acc"


    Trump "Hold my beer I'm going to turn our entire country into a cult."





    "No one does cults better than me." - Trump, probably.


    Are British people less susceptible? Perhaps it's just that everyone wants to be a cult leader here and there's no space irl. Not that that applies with the internet. Oh people are prob more introverted too.

    It's worth pointing out the UK is a lot smaller than the US too so you'd have to factor that into comparisons.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Beating a dead horse but the US really is broken:

    AIO? I left my therapist for political reasons

    I said, 'I understand this is personal and possibly inappropriate, but I need to know if you voted for trump. I don't want to receive life advice, be vulnerable, and be treated by someone with such a drastically different set of morals and values than I have.' She said it shouldn't matter who she voted for. I said, in this case, for me, it does. She said she would not tell me who she voted for, but that she's conflicted by many of the issues. I asked what she's conflicted about. She said she's conflicted about Black Lives Matter movement because it was 'violent' and she said she's conflicted about social programs because she doesn't want people taking advantage of them… (uh… you’re against social programs and you’re a THERAPIST?) I told her that pretty much answers my question, and I'm thankful for our time, but I'm sorry, I don't think I can continue working with you. She got pretty angry. Said she was disappointed and teared up a bit. I feel like kind of a dick, but I can't justify paying money for treatment from someone I fundamentally disagree with about what being a good person means. … I don't know, am I overreacting?

    Edit: holy crap, this blew up. Wow, I’m still conflicted about how I handled this. I know I could've done it in a better way. and I appreciate the honest feedback… I don’t post very much and I’ve never had so many people respond…

    I'm not even criticising the OP but it's just how can a country where people have such drastically different values work in this sense?

    It's also a bit weird that the therapist got upset to the point of crying since I imagine they get all kinds of responses from people if they're working with mentally ill people (and also kind of need to be able to handle that because it's part of the job to deal with mentally ill people with emotional dysregulation issues, paranoia etc.) Really goes to show how much this election cycle has messed Americans up.


    I'm also pissed off with this pronatalist subreddit I found days ago as this is a topic I'm interested in and half the posts are just about the freaking US election again and the 4B movement and right wingers gloating about how liberals will stop reproducing like some kind of passive genocide movement, while hypocritically pretending they care about the fertility rate.

    They do the same [BEEP] by writing off all [BEEP] people, even if they want kids.

    My interest in this subject has nothing to do with the fertility rate though, but more the fact that lots of people are not having kids they want to have and we're also becoming more and more miserable. The part where we're becoming more miserable and mentally ill is leading to lower fertility too.

    Nobody has any hope of doing anything for any cause they claim to care about lol. I guess I'm expecting a level of intelligence that just isn't there.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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