Random Thought of the Day

[Nyctophilia]

So yeah The glitch entity thing really interested me growing up too like missingno and glitch city in Pokemon red. That was really fascinating to me when I first learnt about it and started messing around to get that in that game when I was a kid:

I just realised that the missingno glitch actually has it's own wikipedia page lol. This is uncommon for video game and e-culture stuff (seems more common these days though.) Usually there are just pages on various wikia about that kind of stuff. It was amazing though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MissingNo.

MissingNo.[a] (Japanese: けつばん[1], Hepburn: Ketsuban) is a glitch and an unofficial Pok?mon species found in the video games Pok?mon Red and Blue. Due to the programming of certain in-game events, players can encounter MissingNo. via a glitch. It is one of the most famous video game glitches of all time. Encountering MissingNo. causes graphical anomalies and changes gameplay by increasing the number of items in the sixth entry of the player's inventory by 128.

This beneficial effect resulted in the glitch's coverage by strategy guides and game magazines, while game publisher Nintendo warned that encountering the glitch may corrupt players' game data. IGN noted MissingNo.'s appearance in Pokemon Red and Blue was one of the most famous video game glitches and commented on its role in increasing the series' popularity. Fans have attempted to rationalize and incorporate MissingNo. as part of the games' canon as an actual in-game character, and sociologists have studied its impact on both players and gaming culture as a whole. Additionally, references to the glitch and the circumstances around it have also appeared in other games, such as Vampire Survivors and The Binding of Isaac.

I always wonder how the hell people find these kind of glitches in the first place (or rather figured out the process of how it happened,) since the steps required to get this to happen are quite complex sometimes. I think it's usually multiple people working together though. Like I've discovered rare/unique bugs that people can sort of explain parts of but not everything. And I can't because I don't have that knowledge and don't know how it happened in the first place as I wasn't paying close attention lol.

A player can encounter a MissingNo. in Pokemon Red and Blue by following a series of steps. First, the player watches an in-game tutorial for Pokemon capture in the game's Viridian City location. Second, the player uses a Pokemon with the "Fly" move to instantly travel to the game's Cinnabar Island location. Finally, the player uses a Pokemon with the "Surf" move to travel up and down on the eastern shore of the island until a MissingNo. appears.[7]

These events manipulate the game's random encounter system to generate a Pokemon with an invalid identifier. Each area within the game assigns values to a data buffer to represent the Pokemon that can be encountered in that area. However, some areas--such as Cinnabar Island--do not overwrite the data in this buffer, so the data from the previous area is used instead. During the Viridian City in-game tutorial, the player character's name is temporarily overridden to read "OLD MAN", and the player character's actual name is temporarily copied to that same data buffer. If the player travels directly to Cinnabar Island after viewing this tutorial, the player character's name will be read as the Pokemon that can be randomly encountered in that area. Due to the player character's name not being intended to be read as this kind of data, the game can attempt to generate an encounter with a Pokemon with an invalid identifier, such as MissingNo.[8][9] Fans have dubbed this method of encountering MissingNo. the "old man glitch".[8][10]

As with any wild Pokemon, players may flee from, fight, or capture MissingNo.[9] After an encounter with MissingNo., the quantity of the sixth item in the player's inventory is increased by 128,[11][12] and the game's Hall of Fame Pokemon gallery becomes glitched.[10] Temporary graphical glitches may also occur,[10] which can be removed by viewing the statistics page for another non-glitched Pok?mon or resetting the console.[13]

A captured MissingNo. is functional as a Pokemon and appears in the games' Pokedex as number 000.[8][9] The games classify it as a hybrid Bird/Normal-type Pokemon even though the category of Bird-type Pokemon was cut from the games before release.[8][14] It commonly appears with a scrambled block-like form commonly described as a "backward L-shape", but depending on the player character's name, it can also appear as one of three ghost or fossil sprites not used by other Pokemon.[13][11]

Yesterday my friend was telling me about Starfield being buggy. So he views this from a dev perspective (as he is a game dev not on that game,) bugs are obviously a bad thing but I was thinking 'were they at least funny?' So he was like:

Sometimes

There was a bug where your guns would stop working randomly and the only way to fix it was to change your characters gender

And I just think that's amazing lol and wonder how it could be incorporated story wise.

So now I'm going to buy that game. No I'm still not lol. I find the graphics off putting and a bunch of other stuff I've heard about the game like the planet side exploration not being that fun/great. But it's just so impossible because for years before that I was thinking 'I want Bethesda to make a science fiction game centred on space travel and exploring planets' now they have and I just... Cba playing it and it didn't appeal to me somehow lol. And I love as bunch of their RPG's (Fallout 3, Oblivion, Skyrim) because they have worlds that are fun to explore + sandbox + they're good at creating lore + the gameplay is just fun and immersive. Then again in previous titles they have often relied on procedural generation for Oblivion gates, for dungeons and caves etc.

Then started reading this reddit thread from 2013 this comment makes some points:

I see the same pattern for many top tier game developers from the 90s. They became famous at a time when just sticking emergent technologies onto your game almost guaranteed you a fresh, innovative product. The added storage space of CD-Roms, widespread home internet, high quality sound, 3D-graphics, sufficient amounts of RAM for detailed simulation... It was a great time for game innovation in terms of technology.

Now fast-forward to the mid-00s. Suddenly, it's becoming hard to come up with anything new since hardware plateaued and it feels, for the first time, like all the basics are covered, everything's been done. You see game developers used to inventing entire new genres desperately throw themselves at the latest fad: Motion controls with the Wii, MMOs, mobile/"social" games, tablets and now (dare I say?) VR. Nothing really went anywhere.

Will Wright joins Second Life, Molyneux does weird Kinect prototypes and leaves Lionhead to do F2P mobile games, Brian Reynolds joins Zynga, Warren Spector makes some bizarre Mickey Mouse project that revolves around the Wiimote, Ken Levine fired everyone at Irrational to make games based on "Narrative Legos", Shigeru Miyamoto makes an iOS game. John Romero has honestly developed this F2P game called "Pettington Park" for Zynga. John Carmack leaves id to join Oculus, Gabe Newell turns Valve into a VR company. Richard Garriott flew to the International Space Station and apparently (and I couldn't make this up) joined "SpaceVR, the world’s first virtual reality platform with the ability to share live 3D, 360-degree content from the International Space Station (ISS)".

There's some exceptions. Sid Meier managed to focus on what he's good at and somehow avoided (a public?) mental breakdown, Firaxis is doing fine. Tim Schafer was lucky betting on Kickstarter. But generally, Will Wright's path is typical.

If I wanted to be dramatic, I'd say that there's a good chance that a lot of the most iconic game designers from the golden age of the 90s weren't ever that talented designers, they were mostly at the right spot at the right time, getting to work on big productions in a time when a little bit of discipline and creativity more or less guaranteed you a place in gaming history. It must be tough to transition from that to the current, F2P-dominated space.

Yes this happens to everything eventually it becomes more and more difficult to innovate. Also happened to music. Also happened to films.

Also just found this and maybe this is a technological issue (talking about Starfield and it's 1000 planets) but this is not an issue I've had with enjoying their other games personally:

Worlds feel procedurally generated...
This has always been a problem in Bethesda games. They make a big beautiful world...and then fill it with "random generic". Yeah, I'm sure there are a few cool things mixed in, but mostly it's the same caves and dungeons and houses and rather uninspired loot. Realistically, running around a planet here feels almost exactly like running around a planet in No Man's Sky...and that's why I don't play NMS.

Now I like the stories and quests I've done, but I'm not going near any of those "Mission Boards" to do procedurally generated missions.

Devs need to learn that procedural generation (or the feel of it) are huge turn offs to a lot of people. I'd rather deal with less that hand crafted than "muh million explorable worlds".

At the time I was at uni already lots of companies were shutting down, and there were so many projects that just went nowhere or failed. Phone games were becoming more popular and didn't interest me. I thought the games industry seemed really interesting as a kid in the 90s, but by that point it was an entirely different industry.

I really enjoyed games like Oblivion, The Sims 2, Skyrim that came out in the 2000s and early 2010s. The Sims 3 was also fun. But the next Elder Scrolls game will probably suck (I hope it doesn't but Starfield wasn't great,) and even Oblivion and Skyrim were technically dumbed down from Morrowind (but I didn't play that until after Oblivion, by that point was difficult to get into due to lack of voice acting etc.)

Microtransactions and splitting stuff into 3425235252 different packs everywhere. Focus is on making money so even if your product is the worst game in the series so far (The Sims 4,) it doesn't matter because it earns more money.

In the early 2010s the most interesting games I was aware of besides those that were just recreating classic games were weird artsy things that were purposefully surreal and people would refer to some of them as 'walking simulators.' Polarising genre. 'Are they even games?' other art games too (Journey, Flower, The Path, The Graveyard etc.) This became interesting because everything else had already been done and this was one of the only areas of experimentation (technically this too had been done but not very fleshed out.)

You had a few games like Goat Simulator which were more tongue in cheek (and hiding behind that,) and more recently you have Untitled Goose Game lol. You're more likely to find quirky indie games.

When we started working on this game, I think we considered the idea of a game about a goose that runs around hassling people a bit of a niche appeal. It turns out people have a lot of feelings about geese! I think it has a lot to do with how threatening they are, in a kind of mundane way – although we’ve never encountered them ourselves, I think we’d underestimated how many people had, and nearly everyone from the Northern Hemisphere that we’ve spoken to about the game has relayed their own stories of traumatic goose encounters. It seems like we’ve tapped into a relatively universal experience without meaning to.

I think a lot of people have experienced that at some point in their life. I don't really remember it in detail but I know once I was staying on a farm as a young child in a caravan and the geese there would apparently chase after me and my brother. I remember the farm, and I remember my parents talking about this. I even remember there were geese but don't really remember them aggressively chasing me or anything lol. I mostly find geese hilarious. Also there were other games with geese in I think in the rugrats game a goose steals the grandpa's teeth and then Chuckie ends up chasing the goose as part of a minigame. (I haven't played this since I was a kid but yeah it's Tommy not Chuckie you're playing as. You have to ride Spike the dog to chase after them.)

Your first objective in this level is to find Spike (1991). You start out in the playground and must find your way through a maze which leads you to Spike (1991) (1991). There are many dead ends in the maze and it is very easy to get lost if you've never played before. Also in your way will be several geese, which are hiding around some of the corners; you will lose health if you come into contact with them. Keep trying to find your way through the maze until you come to a wooden arch with a bench beyond it (also here is a cookie, which is helpful if you've lost any health). Progressing past this point will lead to the next section of the level.

This section of the level is played while riding on Spike (1991)'s back. Your objective is to follow the goose down the trail until you reach the shuffleboard court. There are several obstacles that you must jump over, including benches, tree trunks and fences.

When you get to the shuffleboard court, your objective changes yet again for the final part of the level: now you must throw pucks at the goose as he chases Chuckie around the court. Be careful with your aim, as it is possible to hit Chuckie. If this happens four times to hurt Chuckie, you have to start over when Tommy starts crying. Five successful hits on the goose will cause him to spit Lou's dentures out and you will win the level.

So the beginning part is kind of like the hog wild levels of Crash Bandicoot I think from what I remember.

The repressed geese trauma.

Octodad is another one I remember.

Octodad: Dadliest Catch is an independent adventure video game developed and published by Young Horses. It is a sequel to the 2010 freeware game Octodad. The game consists of controlling the protagonist Octodad in completing chores typical of the mundane suburban father, but complicated by the fact that he is an octopus in disguise.

I actually contributed to the kickstarter lol but I don't think I ended up playing it. I did play the original which was hilarious.

From a design/creative perspective you don't want to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. But it becomes more and more difficult to innovate and the failure rate increases. Then there's the stuff which everyone hates temporarily but later sees some appeal in when it's placed in a different time period/context. That's true of anything creative.

There's a kind of polarisation of the genre in general in the same way The Sims is seen as bad because 'it's not a game,' and 'girls like this' I remember the backlash to Gone Home. I see the wikipedia page below goes into that. I decided to play and review that game in 2014 I think. (Video is private now cause on an old channel lol.) It was OK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_simulator

While these video game elements originated in the 1980s, people online began pejoratively referring to new games as walking simulators in the late 2000s, notably with Dear Esther.

The walking simulator elements are controversial due to purported lack of challenge, discontent of such games became viral in the mid-to-late 2010s among "hardcore" gamers. In other criticism, artistic aspects and emphasis on decision-making and morality are recognizable in them, and walking simulator elements remain popular.

The Stanley Parable was one of the most interesting examples of this I think and definitely inspired The Backrooms meme. But around that time (let's say 2015-2016 or so,) I mostly stopped paying attention to video games besides the few I still played from before.

Another example is Amnesia The Dark Descent. Horror works a lot better when you can't do anything. I found it scarier than any other game I'd played. But again some people found it boring.

This whole thing was incredibly stupid (but there was a lot of dumb culture war stuff going on in the early to mid 2010s surrounding video games that I cba going into. On both sides of the argument):

Whether to use the term or something else continues to be debated by developers and fans, with those in support pointing out the positive health and mental benefits of walking as a sign it does not have to be derogatory. Detractors characterize it as dismissive and condescending, relating it to other insults like "social justice warrior", although even its critics expressed a feeling of inevitability that it would continue to be used for the foreseeable future.[3]

Developers including Dan Pinchbeck, who co-created Dear Esther, reject this narrow definition in favor of a more expansive and inclusive one.[2] The 'walking sim' term was later embraced by fans, going so far as to be used as a description tag on the Steam digital distribution service. It is sometimes used in an ironic manner.[3]

Whether to use the term or something else continues to be debated by developers and fans, with those in support pointing out the positive health and mental benefits of walking as a sign it does not have to be derogatory. Detractors characterize it as dismissive and condescending, relating it to other insults like "social justice warrior", although even its critics expressed a feeling of inevitability that it would continue to be used for the foreseeable future.[3]

Led to this copypasta lol (people still get annoyed by this because they don't realise it's just a copy pasted thing):

No, you’re NOT a real gamer.

I’m so sick of all these people that tho k they’re gamers. No, you’re not. Most of you are not even close to being gamers. I see these people saying “I put well over 100 hours in this game, it’s great!” that’s nothing, most of us can easily put 300+ hours in all our games. I see people who only have a Nintendo Switch and claim to be gamers. Come talk to me when you pick up a PS4 controller then we be friends.

Also DEAR ALL WOMEN: Pokemon is not a real game. Animal Crossing is not a real game. The Sims is not a real game. Mario is not a real game. Stardew valley is not a real game. Mobile games are NOT.REAL.GAMES. put down the baby games and play something that requires challenge and skill for once.

Sincerely, all of the ACTUAL gamers.

And as I said before similar concepts to The Backrooms also existed in The Sims 2 a decade before:

Building Trap Doors since 1987. Hans' Trap Door Corp has had many recent complaints of missing employees in the prototype department. Watch your step while visiting!

More recently people have compared this to The Backrooms. That's the worst thing probably about being a creative person. 'This is fucking stupid' then suddenly it gains popularity.

Another post from reddit:

It makes me think that games we are creating for the future will lack innovation, creativity and heart because those who are brave enough to undertake a career in video games are constantly being reminded of job insecurity, small pay checks, horrendous hours, the list goes on. If we couple this with a publisher's desire to see more and more sequels (2011 had so many sequels) because they generate money, this creates an environment where innovation cannot thrive, the boundaries are further out of reach and the adjacent possible cannot exist: in fact – the adjacent possible is impossible.

The problem with innovation in gaming is that gaming is incredibly nostalgia-driven. Look at movies for a second: new movies with special effects that would've been impossible when we were kids (let's assume we're all mid-twenties) are well received because movies only take up two-hour chunks of our lives. Sure, we all have our old childhood favorites, but they don't really define who we are. We can sit down and enjoy The Dark Knight just as much as we did Batman Forever when we were young.

You can't do that with games. As kids, we put hundreds of hours into Zeldas and Final Fantasies and Marios and Sonics and Pokemons and the like. Those games were hugely defining of our experiences in the genre. We all pine for innovation in public forums, but secretly, most of us just want to play prettier versions of our childhood favorites over and over again. Look at how many times Ocarina of Time has been sold and resold and resold to an amazing reception.

Innovative games clash with our hardwired expectations of gaming, which is why, no, games are not a good environment for innovation, when the target audience is used to previous generations. I think innovation can be successful within the medium when it defines the gaming experience for new generations. For example, FFXIII could very well be the quintessential RPG experience for today's children.

And there's nothing wrong with that. That's why I hate when new parents on reddit are so proud of starting their kids out "the right way" with gaming on their childhood favorites. It's innocuous indoctrination, sure, but it's indoctrination nonetheless. It hurts the reception of innovation because we're raising the next generation with the same "things ain't what they used to be" mindset on which so many of us were raised.

Long story short, I think innovation does not currently work well in the video game industry, but I don't think it's the video game industry's fault. I think it's the players' fault for being generally closed-minded about new experiences that clash with what they know and love.

The part about movies is wrong, especially now. People are only rebooting the past, exploiting nostalgia, creating sequels, and not taking risks.

I think we've reached the deconstruction era where it becomes more fun to break stuff (like I do on YouTube,) or create some fan game that parodies something or takes some emotion people experienced and then focus on that. Like Escape PS1 Hagrid because Hagrid was creepy in those games. When you do that you kind of get away with doing crazy things like having several different game genres in one, and you never get famous enough to attract serious criticism either, you've incorporated nostalgia too and you're not pretending your work is supposed to be 'serious.' And if it's just a meme/joke/something to not take too seriously then that's not as bad.

Cowardly though.

The descontructing thing is something conservatives absolutely hate. It's also what a lot of people hate about 'post modernism' haha.



I think this lack of innovation, the poor response to change, combined with journalists just doing what they always do (encouraging people to get into fights,) led people to try and find people to blame. Knowing that everything has already been created before when it comes to art and storytelling also makes it impossible to creatively innovate in those domains. I think innovation is still happening in science.

Also people want stuff that makes them feel like they did when they were children (impossible of course,) they want fun and challenging gameplay and they want innovation and the creative/design/artistic side of the industry want to find outlets for that, and having something that achieves all of that and satisfies everything is very difficult. Even harder than with a movie and the film industry is having similar issues.

Part of the reason The Sims was so popular is it made failure fun and the roots of the game were in failure and crisis. Like initially a big inspiration was Will Wright losing his entire house in a forest fire. Also the dark sense of humour and lore. Eventually all those things were stripped away. Which is why among many other reasons The Sims 4 doesn't work well. It's not replacing this with anything equally compelling. They brought back the want and fear system a couple of years or so ago but it doesn't work well. It's poorly executed and immersion breaking. There are things the game does well and better though it's just the overall package which is worse.

[Ironman]

Happy New Year, career!
You are driving me crazy! L O L!!!

I reach 20 years in August ROFL

[Otherside]

Happy New Year, career!
You are driving me crazy! L O L!!!

I reach 20 years in August ROFL

Long termer.

Did you get anything? I apparently get to go to a restaurant at five where I am.

[Doseone]

This is insane.



100 billion galaxies in the observable universe. People don't realize how vast the cosmos is.

[Ironman]

Long termer.

Did you get anything? I apparently get to go to a restaurant at five where I am.

We used to get a lunch, but that was when everybody was in the same office.
I know there is a gift program that I get points for. I have never redeemed it, but I got 3, 5, 10, and 15 points for a total of 33. I don't know about 20 - I actually just got an email about a new program today lol.

I'll be luck if I make it to August based on how bad things are going here in the States.

[Nyctophilia]

I was having an interesting dream I don't remember most of the details to now. There was some kind of large house or mansion or something like that I was in at one point some guy fell down a hole into this volcano like abyss and died and then later there was a wizard with octagonal glasses.

Unfortunately I was woken up during the wizard part because the back of one of my earrings seemed to be stuck on my pyjamas which is the first time that's ever happened. Luckily I woke up before I did any damage to my ear lobe. That's the first time that's ever happened. You're not really supposed to sleep with earrings in obviously but since I wear studs I often do. Technically it's just been one earing for probably over a year now since I lost the back to the other one so I've just been wearing one until I can get around to buying a new pair of earrings. I've really wanted a set of sword stud earrings for some time but never actually got around to committing to buy a pair.

The octagons glasses made me think of the Discworld series (because the number 8 is magical in that universe,) so I started searching to see if there were any wizards with glasses that were Octagonal in that universe but couldn't find anything after googling for a short time.

Then stumbled on a funny Tumblr thread on some subreddit but I'm not going to talk about that first because all of this is kind of secondary to what I wanted to talk about.

So I finished reading the Rosie project. I agree with my earlier assessment that it's not the best book I've ever read, but that review and a bunch of the comments in the reddit thread seem overly harsh. I also think it's hard to write an amazing romance book.

The plot twist I thought would happen didn't end up happening which was good. It would have been too obvious imo. But it was intentional as I thought, and was suggested as the plot twist at one point towards the end, until the actual plot twist.

Also lol 'the wife project' questionnaire was included at the end of the book lol so readers can take that =P

Apparently Rosie's character was changed and started as a different character which doesn't entirely surprise me.

But the underlying story has a longer pedigree. It began as a screenplay, developed during screenwriting studies at RMIT. Anne, my son Daniel and I workshopped the original plot during a walk in New Zealand. A work-up for the characters was published as The Klara Project: Phase 1 in The Envelope Please in 2007 and I completed the first draft of the screenplay, with a different plot and a nerdy Hungarian Klara instead of Rosie, in 2008, having taken some time to decide that it was a comedy rather than a drama.

He also points out he struggles with inhabiting female characters. I don't think they're too bad and also not really the primary focus (another point against it being a 'romance book for men' as someone suggested.) I wouldn't really say the female character does much for him besides finding him fun to hang out with and connecting with him when he struggles with relationships in general.

Something else that occured to me was that the negative review brought up that in the book every female character seems to be head over heels in love with him which is not true but if it was that's kind of a staple of some romance books that are very popular. Like Twilight lol everyone is obsessed with Bella. (I don't consider Twilight to be a great series though, and their relationship is also very unhealthy and codependent.) But even so it didn't read like that to me.

There are still a bunch of cute moments though.

I told him about the movies I had been watching, and their idealised representation of acceptable and unacceptable behaviour. If Gene and Claudia had owned a rabbit, it would have been in serious danger from a disgruntled lover. Gene disagreed, not about the rabbit, but about the impact of his behaviour on his marriage.

Also this is funny:

I could no longer be equated with the Virgin Mary. I had been corrupted. I was like everyone else. My stone-casting credibility had been significantly compromised.

The character Gene reminds me of this evo-psych professor who posts on twitter. There are some important differences in vibe but he is also in an open marriage, has been married before, is also in his 50s I think. The evo-psych professor from twitter is autistic though unlike Gene and is also kind of snobbish I think. One of those people who fixates on IQ. And he's transphobic and a 'pro-natalist.' But he has the same kind of worldview where genetics and evo-psych are everything.

I don't like how the evo-psych professor from twitter (I'm going to keep calling him that because it amuses me,) picks and chooses progressive causes as they suit him (like supporting poly relationships because that suits him,) and otherwise tends to push a lot of neo-trad views. He uses evo-psych to do this as well and is constantly plugging his own books.

The author said this book was mostly inspired by people he worked with in IT though. And I could also see that moreso about the main character though.

So anyway yeah this is the tumblr post I found when searching about my dream which was actually posted on a reddit that curates Tumblr posts which is ironic really lol.



People on Tumblr have such a funny and eccentric way of writing.

The part about yellow being green that got seasick is a really great description for some shades of yellow actually.

Speaking of mustard yellow (which they say is an exception from their dislike of yellow,) I remember having a personal issue with that shade as a teenager lol. I think it's the only shade/colour where I kind of decided it was bad (besides certain shades of pink. I don't mind hot/neon pink as much.) I forgot about that lol. I was very into neon green as a teenager. It's kind of weird to have colour obsessions and thoughts like this but I haven't really as much since I was a teenager although I am very into darker shades of green now I guess so sort of and that sort of started before. Also like green glittery makeup on other people.

I'm not sure when that started. Either when I was watching this music video as a teenager (or maybe late childhood I dunno when I first watched this):



Or this scene which I was very enchanted by as a kid:



It was a lot more impressive visually and also emotionally evocative in my memory. I stumbled on it again a couple of years ago and it pops into my head now and then since like when thinking about colours.

Not that it has no effect now but I guess sometimes things are better left as memories.

Then obviously I had the plant people thing + liked Poison Ivy (not sure the green was that essential.) I was very into circuit boards (and they're usually green. I had a graphics design project in school where I created an aesthetic for a fictional band centred on circuit boards lol. I think I got a B or an A. I was much better at coursework than the exams... I always got really low scores on those exams.) Then when I was 20 I was into MCU Loki (and on/off since then) so yeah. Someone who designed this music video appears to be on the same wavelength lol:



It's my mum's favourite colour though so I grew up around a lot of green stuff. Maybe that's related. She's also very into plants and gardening. People would constantly buy her frogs and frog related stuff too which she didn't like (although she has a phone case right now with a frog on it lol that she bought.) She likes frogs but she doesn't like how if she mentions something people will keep buying it over and over as gifts. The frogs kind of became like that. Tumblr and 4chan are obsessed with frogs too hmm.

I don't mind yellow though. It's definitely never been a favourite colour in general though (any shade.) As a child my favourite colour after pink - which I don't think was personal or if it was I don't remember that period of my life well enough - it's just because I had pre-programmed 'girl preferences' I think (although saying that the mermaid thing seemed to have more personal significance,) but at about the age of 7 I made a formal decision that purple was going to be my new favourite colour while I think looking at a colouring pencil and I also decided that pink was bad (maybe I didn't have as strong feelings at that time though, that was more intense when I hit 11 and got more into alternative aesthetics,) and so I wanted my room redecorated because it was pink also because of the scary wallpaper and the pareidolia effect (so I somehow ended up with yellow wallpaper which was not my choice,)

But although I do like certain shades of purple a lot and love the association with magic too - and once while I was at uni I had purple hair and a purple and black stripy jumper on so in a drawing class my very eccentric but incompetent teacher who left after that year used me as a prop for a discussion about the colour purple and it's symbolism. Oh man I wish I could remember some of the weird stuff he said over that year. People would quote it on facebook all the time he was crazy but he didn't teach us anything that useful and the following year the woman who had previously worked for Disney ? or had some impressive career background mentioned none of us had certain basic skills that we should have by that point - anyway although I like purple that decision was sort of made in the same way I picked a favourite stuffed animal as a kid. My brother had a favourite from when he was basically a baby that he always slept with and he had a very close relationship with him (if I wanted to get him out of my room I'd threaten to do something to him which was a bit mean - and these days I'd probably just start playing a Kate Bush song - but it worked, tbf I also kind of invented most of the lore of his bedroom and that stuffed toy which was the king of his bedroom and I also did a voice for the stuffed toy that sounded a bit like the professor character from Spyro and my brother just accepted all of that lore. So it was sort of my creation. I'm not saying I'm God but. No.) but I didn't have a favourite stuffed animal and sort of thought I was missing out. Like how I was kind of bummed that I never had an invisible friend (one of my aunts did.) That's the kind of thing you want as a kid but not as an adult lol. And you know I did like that bear, and also many other bears/stuffed animals over the years. But it was more of a formality than something that developed organically.

Some of the comments on the reddit thread were about Discworld stuff which I guess is why it came up in a google search.

The colour of magic on the Discworld, also referred to as the eighth colour. This fictional colour is strongly indicative of magic and can only be seen by wizards (who sometimes describe it as resembling a fluorescent greenish-yellow purple) and cats, who both possess "octagon cells" in addition to the normal cones and rods possessed by humans. (See tetrachromacy for the real-world equivalent.

I always really liked that. It's exactly the kind of colour I think it would be. Also I guess in a way that's my favourite colour. Well if I imagine a kind of iridescent colour that's less garish and kind of turquoise/teal/neon-green/purple and even works in glittery dark green then that might be. Something like the aurora cape in Runescape maybe but slightly different shades. Obviously that's technically a bunch of colours but whatever.

Another thing is I've been watching New Girl still and there was a scene with Jordan Catalano:



'otherwise you're dating a wall'

Actually she's dating a door.

Reminded me of Simon Amstell's comedy stand up lol:



They both highlight the fact he's dyslexic. I never actually watched that show but I guess it's a huge part of his character or something. Soon I will be able to make a playlist of comedy bits about Jordan Catalano.

The show is slightly before my time. I mean I watched a bunch of stuff from the early-mid 90s growing up, and have always watched stuff from even further back in time. A lot of the films I watched as a kid were from the 80s. But yeah I get the impression that show was like a big cultural deal for older millennials/older gen x who were born in the early 80s or something and teenagers when it was airing... Oh I see there's basically a whole subgeneration for this show:

Xennials are the micro-generation of people on the cusp of the Generation X and Millennial demographic cohorts.

Other terms, such as the Star Wars Generation, the Oregon Trail Generation[21] and Generation Catalano[22] have been proposed. Doree Shafrir, writing for Slate magazine, chose "Generation Catalano" for its reference to the character Jordan Catalano, played by Jared Leto (born 1971), from the 1994-95 teen drama My So-Called Life. She defined "Generation Catalano" as those born from 1977 to 1981, the timeframe of Jimmy Carter's presidency.[22]

That's hilarious. 'That program has left me damaged' indeed.

but I was born in 1991 so doesn't have that significance for me. Also was cancelled after only one season apparently. Tbf even a lot of the shows that were like 'younger millennial teen shows' like The OC I didn't watch lol. I did like the opening theme.

I've spoken about this before but yeah I really loved the theme song at the time and learnt to play it on the keyboard.



A lot of the themes for 90s and early 2000s TV shows are very nostalgic to me now. Even somewhere I only watched them like a decade ago in the early 2010s but they came out in the early 2000s like Roswell still a nostalgic theme somehow. But it's Dido and she was kind of everywhere in my late childhood/teen years.

I have no idea what the equivalent show for me was. There are a bunch of shows I really liked as a kid/early teens. A lot of them were either shows that started in the late 90s, or in the year 2000. But some were from the early-mid 90s too. I can't think of a defining teen TV show off the top of my head for when I was like an actual teenager. I was playing video games and listening to music I guess and hanging out with the one close friend I had (hanging out with other people sometimes too but that was rarely pleasant.)

I did watch a bunch of sitcoms. Gilmore Girls is kind of nostalgic and definitely like 'a show that was big when I was a teenager' but I didn't watch it until the 2010s again when I watched the whole thing at one point. The town is very charming. That always stood out to me. Very cosy. I feel like there's something I'm forgetting though and I just can't remember.

I mean there were a bunch of shows I'm aware of but just didn't watch in the 2000s like One Tree Hill, Dawson's Creek, Freaks and Geeks (only lasted one season again.) Reading a list lol. Daria I guess. I did sort of watch parts of that show at the time I think but not really and didn't watch it all the way through until I was an adult. I liked the theme song. I also watched Buffy but I started watching that when I was like 9. I remember watching the final episode though when I was 12 and talking about it with a girl in maths class the next day. Almost a teen lol.

This kind of aesthetic is kind of nostalgic too lol:





Yeah didn't really watch any teen dramas as a teen.

Skins was probably it I guess for the UK because it came out when I was in sixth form but I never watched it and I think I probably would have found it bleak like most UK TV and moreso now.

Why are your TV shows so depressing

I don't know. I'm not writing them you'll have to ask someone else.

Hey New Yorker here. Why is it that every British show I watch just leaves me feeling depressed. I feel like there?s never an uplifting ending and the cinematography is so colorless compared to American TV. Also is everyday cloudy over there goddayum?!?!

Although that's just the weather. And I hate it.

Oh there is stuff I've liked over the years, especially when I was a kid. I liked Red Dwarf a lot back then. Some episodes of The Mighty Boosh were OK. There was some show with a wizard that had magician in the title that I barely remember now and liked back then. Tess of the d'Urbervilles the 2008 TV BBC? Adaptation - even though it's depressing. I think I watched a Jane Eyre show once. Sherlock was pretty good but I haven't watched all of it. Fleabag is great. Other stuff. My dad would always watch Eastenders and that is so depressing. Like move people. The murder rate where you live is statistically insane. But I know you can never leave these kind of places. Which makes it even more depressing.

I've spent most of my life living in areas that aren't that great. I don't need an extreme form in fiction actually. I think many people who want that in fiction don't.

Because they don't feel like fake, dishonest saccharine, manufactured [BEEP] designed to promote products like we see from America. That [BEEP] leaves us feeling numb and disinterested. It's offensive.

British TV is generally down to earth, realistic, honest and relatable.

Honestly don't agree with fiction depending on the genre. But it gets very uncomfortable when they create these documentaries that are like overly dramatic action films. They need to stop doing that in the US.

I think there's a kind of cynical, cold, pessimistic, self defence mechanism that British people have. And you're trying to justify it. But that's just me speaking as a British person. Who had a teacher from Minnesota when I was 10.

No not everyone obviously there are also British people like Terry Pratchett. Or there were. But if you pay attention or live here you know what I mean.

I get going after the same archetype(s) of people and falling in love with concepts over and over again though. That standup is still one of the most relatable ones I've ever seen.

[Doseone]

If music is objectively good or bad, somebody has the best music taste on Earth (me jk lol).

I finally found some new songs to learn how to play. Cath... by Death Cab for Cutie and Keep it Healthy by Warpaint.

[Ironman]

Welcome to the 18th day of 2024.

[Nyctophilia]

I found some old music thread (but not that old like 11 years ago,) which is probably a joke because it's so dumb but since I discovered their music too late to see them live this is really lame lol:

Is Rush a gay band?

bunch of queers at the show.

No, they are bi.

Lots of lesbians

Did he do a survey lol? Or was it like couples?

I would be surprised if it wasn't mostly middle aged men as they are a prog rock band, but I can imagine everyone who wasn't and therefor stood out 'looks like a lesbian' because they're probably the same kind of people who post on Tumblr or actually do post on Tumblr.

Two groups who openly hate each other in the same fandom. Pretty funny. Many such cases I guess.

Not gay, def bi though like stated.

I'm about to leave. Glad the ticket only cost me $20

not gay but bi. styx? gay.
meanwhile I am a woman and love them both! yay

Not if you grew up in the 70's or 80's

They're not gay, they are just super nerds

No, they're Canadian. People get the two confused a lot.

It's like the Mean Girls musical song 'gay or European?'

why would you leave a rush show? they f****** rock!

That's what I'm saying.

I like that half the thread has just decided they are a bisexual band though. I don't think any of the members came out as bisexual but it's like every emo band, and David Bowie (who was openly bisexual) I guess.

It's also kind of random that they decided this based on 'lesbians at the show' not the band's image. Usually it's the other way around.

I'm not sure at what point you become a 'gay band.' Styx apparently lol (never listened to them.)

Well obviously these guys I guess:





I don't think they're all gay, but some of them are and they are purposefully leaning into that 'masc gay' image.

There aren't many bands I would describe as bisexual off the top of my head in the sense they were purposefully leaning into the image, and one or more members are bisexual, and it was also a big part of their music/lyrics. There's an aesthetic (which has changed subtly throughout the years,) that is described as bisexual but very rarely are those people bisexual or openly bisexual, and bisexuality is rarely or never part of their lyrics. I guess some musicians kiss on stage etc for fan service reasons. There's like one photoshoot where Rush debatably were doing something similar (or Alex and Geddy were,) but that's about it. Most of Rush's lyrics aren't even about romance or sex etc.

There's t.A.T.u. where one of the members was bisexual and homophobic towards gay men, and they pretended to be lesbians and this wasn't their idea but their managers lol (from what I remember.) There was also a Japanese band called Adams where neither member was gay or bisexual afaik, but all the fans were female and then one of the members unfortunately died on stage in Poland:

ADAMS describes itself as a "NEOSEXUAL" rock duo, incorporating the theme of Ultimate Love across the borders of gender into their lyrics,

There were some interviews. I think a lot was lost in translation honestly. Like the repeated use of the word homosexuality. From the interviewers.

https://www.jame-world.com/en/articl...ith-adams.html

Last year you released the album NEO SEXUAL. Can you tell us more about it? What does "NEO SEXUAL" mean?

Shota: "NEO SEXUAL" is one more orientation. This is how things should be. This is ADAMS concept.

Your band's concept is homosexuality. Do you want to promote homosexuality or do you just use it as a theme for your work?

ADAM: Homosexuality is a very important concept for both of us, so we both create music, sharing love to each other.
Shota: Our lyrics correspond with the feelings of the opposite sex and arouse empathy in our own sex. There are of course differences in music. You can also feel a mysterious deepness in our photos.

Is homosexuality in Japan a problem, taboo or a common thing? Are gay people being discriminated in your county?


Shota: Homosexual people are rare in Japan. They barely (announce) their coming out, though they are not really discriminated.

But then most of those guys like during the emo era weren't openly bisexual or bisexual at all. Some came out later though. Actually bisexual people are twice as likely to stay closeted:

It's no wonder bisexuals are twice as likely to stay in the closet compared to lesbian and gay people. Only 36 percent of bisexuals come out to their friends compared to 74 percent of their gay/lesbian counterparts, according to Stonewall, an LGBTQ+ rights charity.

And there are also lots of labels.

The lead singer of Green Day is bisexual, sometimes the band members kissed on stage back in the day (dunno if they still do,) and they have a song about coming out (but it's not specifically about coming out as bisexual.) Also songs about women, cross dressing. One song about a dominatrix lol.



It's still not as blatant or central as with The Village People. Most of their songs are about politics and other topics.

I don't think anyone wants their music to be defined that way either. And I get that because it's limiting but there's also this sense that you're not allowed which I want to poke at. Like I think of Amanda Palmer she's bisexual, her image is kind of androgynous in that kind of way (ironically I don't think this gets read as bisexual if you're a woman I think it gets read as feminist or lesbian lol but similar kind of vibes in men are read as bisexual now but sometimes gay still,) and she has songs that are relatable as a [BEEP] person but moreso as a non-binary person (just speaking personally like the song below. I don't think it was written that way intentionally, I think it's actually about her dad, and it's vague enough that it can be about several things at once. I also relate to the dad interpretation to be fair because I've struggled with the things I have in common with my dad and the negative comparisons people have made when comparing me to him over my life.) I don't think her romantic songs have clear gender in them most of the time (just thinking off the top of my head, haven't listened to all her music either.)



Half underwater, I'm half my mother's daughter
A fraction's left up to dispute
The whole collection, half of the price they're asking
In the halfway house of ill repute

Half accidental, half painful instrumental
I have a lot to think about
You think they're joking? You have to go provoke him
I guess it's high time you found out

It's half biology and half corrective surgery gone wrong
You'll notice something funny if you hang around here for too
Long ago in some black hole before they had these pills to take it back
I'm half Jill and half Jack

Two halves are equal, a cross between two evils
It's not an enviable lot
But if you listen you'll learn to hear the difference
Between the halves and the half knots

When I let him, when I feel the stitches getting sicker
I try to wash him out but like they say, 'The blood is thicker'
I see my mother in my face but only when I travel
I run as fast as I can run but Jack comes tumbling after

The bolded line especially. I wonder what she was thinking about when she wrote that.

Palmer is bisexual,[60] telling afterellen.com in 2007: "I'm bisexual, but it's not the sort of thing I spent a lot of time thinking about," Palmer said. "I've slept with girls; I've slept with guys, so I guess that's what they call it! I'm not anti trying to use language to simplify our lives."[61] Palmer has spoken out on feminist issues[62] and about her open relationships, stating in one interview that "I've never been comfortable in a monogamous relationship in my life. I feel like I was built for open relationships just because of the way I function. It's not a reactive decision like, 'Hey I'm on the road, you're on the road, let's just find other people.' It was a fundamental building block of our relationship. We both like things this way."[63]

You're also not allowed to and the implications of that make me kind of resentful. You're supposed to be invisible because you don't exist. Especially in this day and age you stumble on posts about gender and sexuality from conservative people and heterosexual people all the time online. I've never watched the 'whatever podcast' but people often talk about clips from that or include them in videos and every one I've seen is like men and women arguing and the women are really stereotypically feminine and young and the guys all have the same manosphere ideological worldview. And this stuff all the time:



Right wing men insisting women shouldn't have the right to vote on twitter. That's something I should stumble on once a year if that not almost everytime I end up on the website these days.... It's an opinion that was almost unheard in 2015 and entirely unheard of in 2005.

There's a pattern (OK it's just 2 songs. 'The pattern' is just 2 songs lol,) where there are certain songs written by bisexual women which are really more about a friend I think where you want to save them or something from an unpleasant relationship or something like that while also somewhat insulting them. Which I just interpret as being sort of romantic. Like one written by Amanda Palmer:



You're an unrescuable schizo
Or else you're on the rag
'Cause if you take him back
I'm gonna lose my nerve
He's gonna beat you like a pillow
You schizos never learn
And if you take him home
You'll get what you deserve

So don't cry Delilah
You're still alive Delilah
You need a ride Delilah?
Let's see how fast this thing can go

It's not exactly Delilah though you know lol?



You see what I did there? (Oh dear the song title isn't actually Delilah but you get the idea.) I'm so annoying xD this whole post is annoying.

And this song Vivica by Jack off Jill:



I think my defence for interpreting this one as romantic is more solid actually.

The apple falls far from the tree
she's rotten and so beautiful
I'd like to keep her here with me
and tell her that she's beautiful
She takes the pills to fall asleep
and dreams that she's invisible
Tormented dreams she stays awake
recalls when she was capable...

Women are very confusing. There's a straight woman on twitter I stumbled on the other day who is conservative and half her profile (recent tweets anyway,) was writing overly poetic stuff about women like Kate Moss and otherwise posting photos of women and complementing them.

Kate Moss's face gives me angel vibes. But like haunted angel vibes.

Like the 'broken clock' version of an angelic being. Like the face you'd see in a horror thriller where you die & see the bright white tunnel & feel the instant breeze of sublime comfort?.but then slowly find out it's actually menacing simulation from the Divine who secretly damned you to hell and you're finding out through the implicit existential torment.

I think it's maybe the slight lazy eye giving her some of that haunted charm.

One of my favorite faces of all time.

No wonder Alexander McQueen was obsessed.

So I read her tweet and thought 'is she gay or is it like Sylvia Plath?' She had no tweets about men like that though! It always makes me feel sad. I completely get where Contrapoints is coming from when she's confused by straight women because they don't express attraction to men often (Contrapoints has since 'discovered Tumblr' so to speak and 'the genderfluid gaze' which is mostly based on a book 'girls who like boys who like boys,' and it's annoying because the video where she talks about that manages to erase bisexuality - not the first time actually - and genderfluidity somehow and I only subscribed to her patreon because she listed a bunch of stuff that would be in that video and was curious lol. But yes I would say this is still niche and they're often bisexual. Do I think that book somehow encompases non-lesbian female sexuality entirely? No. Not anymore then that Germaine Greer book she criticises earlier in the video. And some of these people including in that book are trans men or non-binary.) Then the straight (?) woman on twitter said all these lesbians were attacking her and I looked and noticed she implied lesbians don't exist and then said it was because of the conspiracy theory where men are being feminised and that's why some become lesbian (yeah because the first thing you do when men aren't masculine enough is date people who are even more feminine like Stella Maxwell.) She was saying this in response to a tweet about Kristen Stewart who is openly bisexual! (She dated Stella Maxwell for a few years.)

Most of the time people are only reading subtext into stuff, even when someone is openly bisexual. It's the same thing with Gaylors so I have some sympathy for them even though they take it to the point of being delusional sometimes and I'm sure she's straight.

I get annoyed with 'you don't exist' except when this happens lol. And 'you're trying to get attention' when bisexuality in media and music is less focussed on except in a negative way and/or until very recently. Most of the time it's just other people claiming it's related because of some fandom. Also the general erasure. This is one reason I think bisexual and non-binary people are so mentally ill and fixate especially if you can't have sex and relationships for whatever reason.

I know sexually fluid people struggle a lot too according to research and have even more issues. Well you're supposed to have a consistent sexuality over time, it's supposed to be very clear to you (that's difficult without testosterone and sometimes in other cases.) How are you supposed to have a stable identity if your sexuality isn't consistent over time? Sometimes people are more romantically attracted to one gender but still sexually into more than one causing difficulties, they're more into trans people (that's frowned on by some people having that preference,) they're more into one but still not exclusively etc.

I think if there wasn't this huge backlash around the time I was trying to figure myself out, then maybe I wouldn't be so annoying now. On the other hand I kind of obsess about everything (not just this,) so that's probably just my personality type.

Lol then I started watching this video and the part where she just starts rambling about the supernatural stuff and 'poetry.' Yeah:

I'm reading fanfic surrounding a character that does turn into a werewolf and it's gay it's [BEEP] and so that's why I love it. I'm a [BEEP] woman and I like reading [BEEP] women and one of them happens to be a werewolf. Maybe I need to be put down. Oh my God but it's not because I'm into that. I like supernatural things. It's like reading something with a vampire. Oh my God and I read The Coldest Touch which is literally sapphic vampires. I'm no better, guys I'm no better. I'm going to be so honest. If I'm going to sit here and I'm gonna fault others I can't be a hypocrite about it I'm going to be honest. You put it in sapphic terms I'm into it. Although I'm not into the way it's written. I would never read something that was written like this. I will only read things that are written like poetry. Which is why I stick to my sapphic stuff. That's not true I would happily read some terrible romance. I just- shut up. I also need my brain to turn off sometimes it goes too fast.

I'm more into cat and bunny hybrids (and male ones specifically well I also read some Loki fanfic too where he spent time as a cat as well, so that's like Genderfluid alien cat hybrid.. How many things?) but yeah haha. I used to be into vampires as a teenager too but not so much these days well I have listened to some stuff with female vampires more recently but as a teeanger I was more into male vampires. I like male and female fairies, nymphs etc. I started listening to something with someone who was playing a water nymph as a guy but their voice sounded female. I like most supernatural, sci-fi and fantasy themes (I shouldn't list them all lol elves, aliens, robots, witches, ghosts, mermen, demons sometimes, probably forgotten some.) Never liked werewolves though. I've read stuff with female werewolves in though as a teenager I think there were male werewolves in that too but there was also just a Human guy? It's been a long time so I don't remember the details. Oh this is one of the books I read lol:

Elena Michaels is the world's only female werewolf. And she's tired of it. Tired of a life spent hiding and protecting, a life where her most important job is hunting down rogue werewolves. Tired of a world that not only accepts the worst in her her temper, her violence but requires it. Worst of all, she realizes she's growing content with that life, with being that person.

So she left the Pack and returned to Toronto where she's trying to live as a human. When the Pack leader calls asking for her help fighting a sudden uprising, she only agrees because she owes him. Once this is over, she'll be squared with the Pack and free to live life as a human. Which is what she wants. Really.

And I also read some gay male werewolf stuff. The gay stuff was clearly part of the omegaverse but before that label was used and I wasn't that into it. I've read a lot of stuff like this lol. Often free original fiction online, but sometimes bought books, lots of fanfiction too. Also came up with my own stuff in my head. But like werewolves don't specifically appeal is what I'm saying I guess. U̶n̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶b̶u̶n̶n̶y̶ ̶g̶u̶y̶s̶.̶

Also there are lots of guys into catgirls so they can say what they want about white women (that dumb meme. I didn't watch her other video that she seems to be talking about so I dunno if that came up,) but what's going on there? Lol.

Also I agree that example is kind of cheesy and cringe and the cover doesn't appeal to me personally.

Also Stefan Molyneux's fake comment comes up in the video and I don't think she knows who he is lol and all the ridiculous stuff he's said which is probably for the best. He didn't just leave the comment because he wanted to boost his channel he specifically wants to spread his ideological worldview and he faked an approving female response to do that lol. I believe he defended this later by saying that some woman sent him the message and he posted it on her behalf...

[Nyctophilia]

I think having tumblr live on my dashboard really wouldnt annoy me so much if it wasnt so "hot women in your area coded"

Yeah I've been wondering wtf this is but I'm not on the site all the time and mostly ignored it but finally was driven to search. It's like there's Tumblr and then there's a bunch of random people in thumbnails who look like they just stumbled in from instagram and onlyfans or something. Some guy in a business suit, a bunch of women with very polished filter photos, two random sporty guys standing outside their house. It's just kind of a weird mashup for Tumblr.

Of course Strange has a video about it lol. Guess I'll watch it.

Agreed, if the live feature was recommending people/tags that you followed or it was based on your past searches it wouldn't be so bad, but every time I use the app it looks like there's a sketchy banner ad to some webcam site across the top of my dashoard. It's pretty jarring.

Exactly the vibes.

Seeing all these "mainstream influencer" -ish accounts appear on tumblr, the weirdo place for weirdo people, is like watching Kim Kardashian walk into a furry convention and set up shop

That would be funny at least. Like The Simple Life.

nothing says tumblr user like an instinctive fear of beautiful women

either because they're gay or because they're gay

Hah I love that.

Hearing all this honestly makes me feel like the biggest issue with Tumblr Live is just that it doesn't feel like it's actually tumblr and that's putting a lot of the normal user off. Like if it didn't feel like this weird MLM discount twitch then maybe the regular userbase would use it.

The feature isn't inherently bad I think, in fact since twitch is mostly for gaming and YT is for everything having a livestream service that focuses on crafts, painting, weird hobby projects, and other unconventional interests, weird music subgenres etc (you know all the stuff that's on tumblr in photo/text form,) could be good. However the way it pops up on the homepage with the thumbnails that come up isn't fitting the vibe at all.

It's very jarring for Tumblr users to go from Tumblr having very harshly policed nsfw content since 2018 to having this:
[sexualised images of women]

They're just thinking about the money and it's very fucking annoying. Like you banned all the artistic porn and regular porn that was easy to avoid and [BEEP] people posting photos of themselves that were nsfw and now this so you can make money?

So if someone wanted to say.. Post a drawing of Loki jerking off or Loki having sex with someone that's banned but for some reason it's OK to have a live service where you just push a bunch of scantily clad women and feet pics etc?

They've just decided to ignore their primary userbase in the hope they can attract people who won't use the site because it has cooties + 'it's woke (tm)' + it's not instagram.

You are not allowed to search booty shorts on tumblr. Booty shorts. Type it into Tumblr and they say no no no how dare you you disgusting degenerate. Gerard Way would not be pleased with this.

Or Knut Futa from The Sims 2 lol. Because it has the word futa in. Noticed that before.

I love booty shorts though. I'm not impressed either.

I mean if you want to shove softcore porn in my face I think that's a great idea throw in some hardcore stuff too if it's actually 'good' because finding content I like across the web is difficult. But nobody really knows how to cater to us or to me. That's why we write fanfiction etc I guess. (Fanfiction doesn't work as porn imo, especially at this point in my life I just read it for romance stuff and use other stuff as porn but it's kind of the equivalent of softcore imagery or whatever.) And there are limited themes I like in audioporn.

I'm not seeing any skinny and/or nerdy guys with long hair and glasses. So far haven't seen any photos of anyone even crossdressing. Where are the 'twinks?' Where is the goth guy with long black hair and fishnets and heels surrounded by dicks getting fucked in the [BEEP] while looking at the camera? Nobody is dressed like a fairy/elf. Or this:



You can't objectify men in the way you want but we're going to shove 10% topless photos of muscled bearded guys/baseball cap/gym bro (at least some gay guys will appreciate them,) and 90% photos of women that are really aimed at straight cis men let's be frank down your throat. Like every other website. Also add a banner you can't turn off. What is this the comment section of a whatever podcast YouTube video freaking out because 'the government wants to shut us down' that I stumbled on yesterday?

It's too late and can't be stopped now [..] in the meantime have your fun on the 'hot muscular bad boy side' and never sign a contract where the other party is paid to break it.

This is crazy because i've been getting so many misandrist tweets on my timeline on X for the last few days and knew something was going on. This makes perfect sense. The world is doomed

No that's just how twitter works (I'm not going to ever call it x.)

Great. Cheers. Exactly what people on Tumblr wanted.

Lol there's literally a guy in a suit (not the one I saw before,) standing in front of a chandelier looking like some reject from Andrew Tate's circle. These thumbnails are so removed from the lifestyle of the audience and what Tumblr is doing in general.

Who are these people? Like literally who are these people? There are some guys too they seem to fall into the same genre of person. Why are they here? You're trying to tell me that all 30 of the cis straight people on Tumblr decided to adopt Tumblr live?

It is the sheer quantity for me. I mean 95%+ of the photos are like that. I've followed many accounts where people post photos of themselves from time to time and they're very different. Even the photos they're posting of other people are very different.

There's a warning saying that nudity etc will mean lives get deleted but all of the photos are clearly designed to be sexual or signal status in a way that doesn't work for the audience but it's so transparently the intent of most of them that it's insulting to have that arbitrary rule at this point. (also there list of rules for lives that nobody is following anyway lol.)

edit: The people she refers to as fuckboys and the Jeremies lol I can picture what she's talking about like those gen z guys who seem half dead and put in no effort with their content and are barely present on their own stream. Like the guy in this video XQC (again but honestly best/worst example of the type):

[Nyctophilia]

The disdain some "dissident right" figures have for actual religious conservatives in the heartland, a large voting bloc in our country, is a direct mirror of how those people would feel about them. The woman who had three kids in her twenties and takes them to an evangelical church every Sunday is totally foreign to the city dweller talking about Paglia while on ketamine. The difference is the heartland conservatives have no idea the dissident right even exists.

The 'dissident right' are ex-libertarians (the city kind,) bored liberals and Red Scare podcast listeners playing 4d Chess.

So anything Thiel funds - the whole 'Dimes Square' scene, Moldbug, BAP etc.

They are the political equivalent of a man posting on r/rolereversal complaining about pegging and insisting that 'it's OK to be masculine.'

Tucker Carlson is probably the only conservative who knows they exist. Even Curtis Yarvin ended up engaged for a while to some random progressive woman who used to write BDSM stuff after his wife died because they don't actually want to associate with red tribe people. They want to rule them they don't want to be friends with them.

Because they're snobs that want the status hierarchy to be in their favor. They see themselves as the aristocracy of a falling empire.

Pretty much.

[Nyctophilia]

I stumbled on a surprisingly positive post on twitter but it's still conservative. Most people I come across on twitter are culturally conservative now (to varying degrees but certainly including the most insane takes imaginable)

Women have a net negative on society.

Women make almost everything better.

They turn houses into homes; and like beavers who instinctively build dams, they always have this drive to make any environment they're in more beautiful than it was upon their arrival; they make most settings far more light-hearted and pleasant, they add a fuzzy softness to even the most desolate atmospheres by their mere presence; further, they are also givers: they put others first all the time and go above and beyond to make sure those around them are taken care of, even if it?s at the expense of themselves; women are also vulnerable, and this nature of theirs gives men an inherent reason to drive for strength, to be excellent in everything they do, which benefits the lot of us, as women ignite consciousness in men, and if curated, will also serve as the driving force that leads men to their souls; and even putting all of that aside, women are the ones responsible for delivering the miracle of life, the single most beautiful keystroke in all the notes within the orchestra of the universe.

So what is not to love about women? What is there in life that's more beautiful than women? Even animals will fawn over the beauty of a human woman. They are a gift, and redeem all in this life with their existence, as beauty is the great redeemer to our suffering in life, and perhaps nothing is more beautiful than a woman who's been taken care of. Women are a light in total darkness, a calm sea after an everlasting storm. Without women there is nothing worthwhile in life, and nothing to fight for.

'99% of Humanity doesn't agree tho'



(I'm God.)

That's actually not true a lot of Human cultures agreed throughout history:

The bishōnen is typically slender, with clear skin, stylish hair, and distinctly feminine facial features (such as high cheekbones), but simultaneously retains a male body. This androgynous appearance is akin to the depiction of angels in Western renaissance art, with similar social roots for this aesthetic.

I just wanted to keep my excuse for linking this music video because the face masks are cool. Speaking of Imogen Heap though:



I do need a citation for the part about animals fawning over women though, outside of Disney films ('Human woman' is redundant because there are no non Human women.)

Aurora is much more attractive than prince Philip though.

I love that I found this while looking for a hair gif:



I love the way his hair moves in this gif:





'Naturally short.'

That question could be answered with 'music' too but I'd be here all day trying to remember every beautiful song.

It's welcome to praise the good traits distinctive to men and women. This post is a bit mushy and over the top, but it's generally good. We need one for men as well, from someone.

Conservative women typically write poetic posts about women, but not men, like the Kate Moss tweet from before. Unless I deleted the post where I quoted that who knows.

A woman did respond to that tweet with something though:

Men are resilient. They have the capacity to persevere indefatigably, regardless of what they experience on the way. When grounded in themselves and when they know who they are and what they care about, this force of capacity becomes immensely creative.

^ I didn't really like this as much as the original (I think because it requires more concentration,) but the the guy who posted the original did so that's good since he's the target audience:

Beautiful, and very true. Never thought of it in that precise way but spot on.

Then I realised she also wrote a bunch of other tweets below that one. Which makes sense because I thought that one was comparatively short.

They can try a thousand ways to achieve a goal without deterrence. They can get kicked in the face, wipe out, and be back in the game in a couple of days. They learn and incorporate and almost always want to do better--whether motivated by themselves or others. They must achieve.

Trouble of riding that kind of drive is keeping it balanced and directing it towards the right goals. This is where frameworks of male behavior are useful--what kind of goals are good? How do you reign yourself in, not go too far? How do you seek feedback & make space for others?

For whom do you build? What do you fight for, and how do you know it's right? How do know when you should fight and how do you know when you should <something else>. From the outside, men seem to me to be deeply spiritual creatures. They need to be inspired. They need to believe.

They need it so much that when it's hard to find it can create blockers and stress, of pent up energy that doesn't know how to flow. A man who doesn't know how to flow right is a man careening on a motorcycle. Can be dangerous because it is powerful.

What I think is often missing for men is a sense of internal worth--the ability to answer these spiritual questions of *what to do it all for* from the inside. A woman can help here, as motivation and solace and much else. But men can also develop their own compass and values.

Doing this is how men become protectors and stewards; the types of characters that are depicted as heroes in the old days. Men who know themselves are able to become pillars, balancing both strength and power, protecting and building and ending as need be.

I like the stuff Tumblr writes about men, because it helps me to feel mushy about men. I tend to like the stuff people write about women too as it usually feels more poetic to me, and suggestive of some degree of attraction or powerful emotion, even when they're not attracted to women. Even when they're a woman and that woman is their rival:

If the moon smiled, she would resemble you. You leave the same impression. Of something beautiful, but annihilating.

The above kind of reads more like an advice essay, interchangable with something a hetrosexual man on substack might write. I suggest eating an edible and reading more Baudelaire poetry:



(If I dig around I can find better stuff on tumblr etc, this just always springs to mind now and is easy to find. Also I have no idea why they went with that image his hair is completely covered, and also that isn't peak hair and also why the minecraft graphics lol? I guess those must be diamonds in Minecraft.)



Hey love,
I am a constant satellite
of your blazing sun.
My love,
I obey your law of gravity.
This is the fate you've carved on me...
Your law of gravity...
This is the fate you've carved on me...
On me.

I mean that actually wasn't the point or request at all though lol. Plus he said the original tweet was too mushy.

It's welcome to praise the good traits distinctive to men and women.

distinctive /dɪˈstɪŋ(k)tɪv/ adjective
characteristic of one person or thing, and so serving to distinguish it from others. "juniper berries give gin its distinctive flavour"

What trait is unique to men and women? I don't know.

But again it doesn't matter what I think because I'm a monster but I found this quote too while trying to find the other quote below and I do also have a God complex now and then (especially when cool face masks are involved,) and support artificial wombs but they've technically already been invented and not by me:

Although it is women's role to create life, Victor associates creation with masculinity. He cannot create life, but, according to his experience, it is only natural that he should want to. As Bette London writes in her essay "Mary Shelley, Frankenstein, and the Spectacle of Masculinity," Victor is coping with "the fantasy of masculine creation outside the body" (London).

https://knarf.english.upenn.edu/Articles/brooks2.html

The Monster would thus be a woman, but a woman who would answer Freud's infamous question "What does a woman want?" with the ostensible reply: to be a male, with a female to love. In the failure of that project, the Monster is forced to play the role of the castrating Medusa woman.17 [...] "What is a monster?" A monster may also be that which eludes gender definition. In this sense, Frankenstein would be a more radical version of that considerable body of Romantic and "Decadent" literature -- such as Theophile Gautier's Mademoiselle de Maupin, Henri de Latouche's Fragoletta, Balzac's Sarrasine, Rachilde's Monsieur Venus -- that uses crossdressing and hermaphroditism to create situations of sexual ambiguity that call into question socially defined gender roles and transgress the law of castration that defines sexual difference.

[...] Because a monster is that which calls into question all our cultural codes, including language itself, we can understand the persistent afterlife of Mary Shelley's creation, which shows us that, quite literally, once you have created a monster, whatever the ambiguities of the order of its existence, you can never get rid of it.

I guess it's nice to be written about at all? But often female and male stuff applies to me as well.

This essay is like: 'You know Frankenstein was (one of) the first transmasculine novel(s)?'

Oh.

Is this because I said this in a post I deleted yesterday? Like if we pretend linear time doesn't exist for a moment and also that I'm the centre of the universe (I was born in 1991 and that was published in 1993 so I'm sure we can use some variant of The Time Traveller's Wife logic to make this work. Also speaking of that book/movie I think that might be one of the most creative ideas for a romance plotline):

Actually I like this one because it has masochistic references (nothing to do with serial killers.. I hope..):

Waiting... to be born again

Wanting... the saddest kind of pain
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away

Nothing is what I feel
Waiting... for the drugs to make it real
Waiting... for the day when I will crawl away

Waiting... to be disciplined
Aching... for your nails across my skin
Waiting... for the day when I will crawl away

But it's obviously pretty messed up. I was just like 'the bolded' and then ignored everything else.

[...]

I don't think the album cover is helping because it makes me headcannon him as sort of a woman.

Not in an insulting way, in a hot way, but it's still insulting I know.

Also he had really long hair some time around 1996:



Why am I like this?

Also that is a good song musically as well.

I like transandrogynous better than transmasculine. But it fits sometimes depending on how it's being used. Most language is clunky and doesn't work.

I haven't read that book (this is basically a catch phrase at this point,) but either she was very prophetic or the people interpreting that book are projecting (though that quote is from something that was first published in.. 1993? But language was being altered even then. But they must be prophetic because few people are aware of the invisible group.. But then again they've read and cite Rachilde..) Probably a mix of both.

I think she wrote it (partly) about her mother.

She technically wrote the first science fiction book, someone pointed that out recently when people on twitter were trying to erase women from science fiction fandom as though that happened during Star Wars 5 years ago.

Many would say that being a monster is just 'the female gaze' you know (well maybe not quite, it's on the monster spectrum you might say):



I don't think we've decided yet.

Putting on a dress that's so freaking brave of ya
OMG obsessed with that cute behaviour
Never had to stress it might lead to danger yeah
You are the saviour, you are the saviour
(He must be one of good ones)

Do the right thing, admit that you're faking it
Fucking little [BEEP] go fix your behaviour
Yes we know best so fit to the labelling
Fit to the labelling
Fit to the labelling
(We must be some of the good ones)

It was painful to have to develop this questioning dialogue.

I like how this song isn't about most of my interpretations but you can do so much with it and the lyrics haha. I don't think I've come across anything with more potential meanings than this song. It's really great in that sense.

Also some woman responded to her tweet about men with this:

It's funny; for all the complaints about how men are portrayed in media, it seems easier to find positive examples of masculinity than feminity. Who ever accused aragorn of toxic masculinity? Or kristoff.

Jordan Peterson didn't like Kristoff or Frozen lol. He felt he was a 'nice guy' and then started rambling about how most Orangutan's have to resort to rape...

He also keeps telling people to be monsters though while promoting traditional gender roles and being against trans people medically transitioning and changes to language, so he's very contradictory depending on your historical and cultural lens:



This would be a really idiosyncratic conspiracy theory to develop haha.

Why is Loki genderfluid?



JORDAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE SCHIZOTYPAL-ADJ AND PAYING ATTENTION TO DISNEY AND HISTORY WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING AND TO WHO?

I feel like all caps here is too loud. I want something in between.

JORDAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE SCHIZOTYPAL-ADJ AND PAYING ATTENTION TO DISNEY AND HISTORY WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING AND TO WHO?

Yes I think that might do.

Actually a superpower is narcissistically reading whatever meaning you need from what people say regardless of what they intended.



I learnt it from fanfiction. But I haven't perfected it yet.

You call it post modernism I call it creative licence.

[Doseone]

I think it's time to rewatch Twin Peaks: The Return. I haven't watched it since it came out. From what I remember, it was pretty confusing and made no sense most of the time.

[Nyctophilia]

Unsurprisingly this was also tweeted by the guy who wrote the mushy tweet. It was part of his pinned tweet thread on Nietzsche. Millennials and gen z are two of the most overprotected generations in history. I know on a personal level I perceive protection as control and I think there are a lot of people like this. There's also a lot of women who have sexual fantasies involving female domination etc (and surveys connecting this to left wing political beliefs,) which is probably a subconscious extension of this.

The other part of it is the will element. The 'we are virtuous' element disguises the tyrannical nature of the tarantula. In the same way as above, if they were truly what they said they were, they could simply inflict their will on the world as see fit. But because of the impotence, the moralization is needed to retain frame and leverage power through that means. Otherwise they are the constant victims of that which is strong and good (in an amoral way). Thus the "we are virtuous" is the perfect way for the impotent to retain their power and leverage of it.

To me what he is saying is obvious

Putting this under a spoiler tag just in case I don't think it's that graphic but I'm also not great at knowing because I read messed up stuff constantly (it's also impossible to avoid on social media,) it just discusses what one guy on reddit says he would do during the purge (it mentions a crime but it's not a graphic description or anything) + the dynamics of how civilisation keep people in check etc:

Spoiler:

Along the same lines, I'll bring up a harsh example of the latter point. I saw a Reddit screenshot on here recently where some man?s account that quibbled about leftism and his own virtues and all of that, made a comment on a AskReddit thread about what crimes one would commit during the purge. He replied quite openly that he would rape a woman.

This might seem shocking to you but it shouldn?t. The only reason he doesn?t rape woman is quite literally because he is too weak to. His will is that of a tyrant but because he is too weak, he has to use moralization (as his entire account was revealed to be committed to doing) over "equality" and "virtue" as a way to even the playing for himself, so he can get closer to his various goals. Otherwise, he would never stand a chance.

Now I know conservatives rape too, that isn?t the point. The point is that this is an example of how this stuff works in the real world. Before the modern morality, the world was governed by strength. There have been debates and discourse on this recently, but basically I?ve read that women often misunderstand how brutally savage men are/can be and what things would look like for them without the restraints that social rules and reinforcements within our civilization do for them. They find it appalling that without our civilization they would be raped and subjegated and it is only this concept this social structure that stands in the way of all that. They find men disgusting in response and want to use that as reason to stay away from men. I even read arguments after women made this discovery that they wanted men to be locked away (without considering who would lock them away lol), but anyway, they were getting so close but just kept missing it.

Then he starts talking about women's reaction to male behaviour and essentially concludes 'they don't know what they want'

What they don?t realize, is that they want the strong men, the men capable of over powering them of domineering everything, to be the ones that keep the other men in check. They want the noble aristocratic men to keep the weak men like the man in that Reddit thread in his place. The men capable of total destruction who instead use it to uphold civilization are the ones who keep this together for them, yet they are what are villainized in their minds.

However, it is the arguments for "equality" and virtue" that actually (when they succeed) allow the Reddit would-be rapist type of man to have equal or even extended social/societal power and leverage over the men that actually created and maintained that which granted these women their social safety and protection in the first place.

Yet ironically, to them equality and virtues sound nice, to they inadvertently relinquish the power to that which protects them to that which is most tyrannical to take and destroy from them, simply because the rhetoric is that powerful among their unsuspecting ears. It?s really quite vicious, malevolent stuff. But that?s what?s really going on here, and that?s what this quote says plus so much more in that one sentence.

OK here's the thing. I can't speak for all women I identify as non-binary for a reason. Also people need different things depending on their personal experiences and trauma etc. These kind of generalisations are stupid for this reason.

Still I think there are a lot of women who want power and control. They don't want someone else to protect them because that makes them feel weak. And some people don't even find traditionally masculine guys attractive which I think adds to the animosity. So imo this is what people are going to hear:

"you don't know what you want, I know what you want. (Not off to a good start lol.) What you need is to be controlled. I won't respect you until I see you as a credible threat. I'm naive and unaware that female psychopaths even exist because like most conservative men I'm idealistic about women. Also you should make yourself attracted to traditionally masculine men."

Sort of reaching with the last point I feel like it's the subtext of a lot of discourse though. This is the message that women are probably getting. And it's contributing in part to an increase in certain kinds of criminal activity committed by women. I don't think it's the only thing contributing because this seems to be happening globally across many different cultures.

"I don't wanna be controlled by anybody. I don't want to be controlled by my lawyers, by the police, by anybody."[18]. - Joanna Dennehy, spree killer.

edit: I guess my instincts aren't terrible. Could always be better though. 'I'm naive and unaware that female psychopaths even exist because like most conservative men I'm idealistic about women.':

The information women value has never been something I understood. I've had elegant women tell me they love me, and have me travel to meet their family and stay in their childhood home, only to learn after a year of being together they still didn?t know how to spell my last name, despite knowing they expected it to be theirs one day too.

I had a different women I was dating for 1.5 years whom told me she loved me, hear from me that a family member died that particular day, only to be met with a blank stare of disinterest, and a lack of a single follow-up question.

Further than that I have had my car totaled in a highway accident on an evening I had plans with them. A woman I?d been with longer than any other took 3 months to realize that I no longer had that car and that an accident happened. However, even this when she learned of it, was quick to be accepted and deemed as a boring topic.

The anecdotes continue endlessly.

Many women also seem largely uninterested in the thoughts that occupy the minds of the men they?re with. The Roman Empire meme taught us that this too, is the rule, not the exception. One?s intellectual interests apparent as less worthy of conversation or ponder than perhaps any other topic there is.

Hmmm. Have you thought of using a matchmaker? I cannot imagine that so many shallow and insincere women have found their way to you. Perhaps a third party matching would be a better way forward?

I?ve dated absolutely incredible women. Besides generic critiques I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the women that I?ve been with and have been incredibly fortunate through and through.

The above just happens to be the part of women as an abstract that seems to be a consistent theme/pattern of behavior that I happen to struggle with specifically, but this is not an attempt to put them down or be negative as a whole on the topic of women.

'No you haven't Anakin.'

Women are actually responsible for the choices they make.

Ehh, not really. Any women misbehaving is because there are an absence of strong men around her. Even the most cutthroat corporate 'girlboss' will retreat into the most feminine and elegant states as a baseline if the men who raised her and surround her are strong.

An epidemic of bad women is more a reflection on the status of the men than the women. If the women around you are not proper, it is because you, as a man, are not behaving with enough strength and courage.

If that bothers you, get over it and fix yourself.

Imagine being so fucking annoying that I actually end up agreeing with a Pearl Davis tweet over you. On twitter I'm often forced to decide which I hate worse hostile or benevolent sexism but I always go with the latter. Some incel tweeting a silly meme about 'monsters in your area' could be amusing if I'm in the right mood and is more the kind of [BEEP] that wears away at you gradually over time + it's black/white thinking and whiny. Where as 'women are just agents of men's will' Stepford wives logic is just viscerally horrifying and provokes a kind of 'kill it with fire' reaction that I guess other people have to spiders. But I don't mind spiders.

It goes on and on but women are fucking ruthless man. And if you ever see how they behave when they get control over a man, they will destroy him for the sport of it.

so you are capable of switching between the two.

Oh he tweeted this four days ago lol:

I despise women so much that I will only read their tweets in a male voice if I am to read them at all.

As for truly anon accounts, I have to have the gender disclosed to me before I can determine my reaction to their posts. If I can?t figure it out I withhold judgement completely, keeping them in limbo.

wtf is this guy on lol?

Explains this:

The 'I have conservative values/talk about trad gender roles but I don't really want to live that lifestyle' thing is also a red flag I've come to realise (this was his reaction to some drawing of a woman cooking with kids):

Beautiful and what any sane person would want, but personally I struggle too much being in one place.

Even now, it's super rare for me to stay over 2-3 weeks in a single city. And for when I'm at the table playing poker, I often take a walk every hour, for at least a couple minutes, but sometimes more. It cuts into my hourly, but I've just never been able to sit still.

Curious how I'll mend that over time, but ultimately, it's just part of who I am. As desirous as this life looks, and as much as some part of me wants it, the idea of spending my days all like this could be excruciating. I suppose only time will tell though.

Very repressed or something.

Not hating women on here seems to be a very hot take. Perhaps I should reconsider my stance?

This demonstrates how few women appreciate feminine virtue. I am called a simp while the masses criticize women for not being home-makers, for not being traditional, for being too masculine well how can you blame them? No one values femininity, often not even other women, let alone men.

If you punish femininity, and don't praise its virtues, how can you ever expect it to exist in the first place?

[some poll]

OK but I recognise that account. The account they're responding to is in Aella's circle (she's retweeted them a few times because they post many polls.) Aella's followers are almost all men, this person's followers are probably almost all men. I honestly thought they were non-binary but I'm not sure and maybe getting them mixed up with someone else. It's on twitter which is an incredibly masculine website and even more so since Elon took it over. The rationalist community is mostly men etc. They're autistic. This is that account's bio:

Fanfic, code, painting, goop about partners. Tumblr dual citizen, old school rationalist. Big blocker : (. Twitter is a query language, tag me in good polls

Quite entertaining:

I enjoy being female, have no sense of gender identity, and I plan to take T in my thirties or forties and put on a bunch of muscle and look as masculine as I can, because I think it'd be a shame to live my entire life WITHOUT taking advantage of hormone tech

imaginary pregnant me: "hello child. I love you due to hormones and ideology, but definitely in a conditional way. I find unconditional love condescending, since treating you as a complex sapient being means being open to truly disliking your personality and choices -

I'm actually kind of enjoying twitter being forced to consume Tumblr now that I'm searching through their tweets lol. They had a long thread about Snape and then at one point lesbian Snape obviously appears:

(I also find this terror of sex & self-desexualization just as interesting and hot when he's a lesbian and convinced she's fundamentally unlike the women she's attracted to and they'll never like her back; this why my snape sideblog on tumblr is 'lesbianincelsnape')

When ... Snape is a ... a ... lesbian.

homely nerd girl who's in love with her ex bestfriend and is repressing her sexuality like crazy because she thinks she's too creepy and weird to ever be accepted by the people she's attracted to. then she kills her best friend on accident. this is an extremely fuckable concept

They weren't joking about that name.

I was actually never attracted to Snape possibly because my bully liked him for a brief period when we were about 10 and made me act out the scene in the potions classroom with her over and over again. Possibly one of my weirdest experiences with her. I can't remember the details now.

: ( if I could find a social circle whose vibes wrt gender are halfway between my tumblr crowd and my twitter crowd, that would be great. I do fine in both places, but tumblr sometimes makes me go "hah! psychotic" and twitter sometimes makes me go "this is unpleasantly alien"

I see content from both male and female posters that has a "women are made of highly valuable magic fairy dust" feel and it kind of disturbs me

(I feel awkward about saying this; many of those posters are clearly nice people having fun)

anyway one consequence of this is that I feel extra driven to be, like, a peepee poopoo poster. I want to be gross and unmagical

Found some old reddit thread:

Nietzsche thought the empowerment of women was a de-feminization of women. Do you agree?

"...to dream here perhaps of equal rights, equal training, equal claims and obligations: that is a typical sign of shallow-mindedness, and a thinker who has proved himself shallow at this dangerous spot--shallow in instinct!-- may generally be regarded as suspicious..."

Although it is hard to get away with this type of thinking in modern democracy, it is a interesting point. Personally, I am generally not attracted to powerful women, for whatever reason. Some say I am "insecure" but I find it sexy to be in power and am not apologetic about it--it follows in accordance with my instinctual inclinations to be in power; consider in 2004 when a poll asked who Americans liked more: Bush's wife or Kerry's wife. America voted in favor of Laura Bush even though they were about split in half about their husbands.

It is okay to downvote, but here at r/philosophy we like to promote what is called critical thinking. Your thoughts are more valued than your knee-jerk response.

I don't think male sexual preference should define what is and isn't feminine. I've never believed that and it's one of my biggest issues with culture. It leads to weird tangential thought patterns especially in trans women where you'll see people talk like 'I don't find men sexually attractive but I need to have sex with them to prove I'm a woman.' What? (It's not always that obvious to the people doing this that that's what they're doing either, which is why Contrapoints video on this was pretty useful.) There are even some cis lesbian women who weirdly give a [BEEP] what men find attractive lol posting online about that.

If a woman finds a feminine man attractive does he then become masculine? No. If anything culturally speaking people probably view her as a lesbian.

I don't feel like Slaanesh or Poison Ivy or Lilith, are defeminised because they're powerful. If anything even Satan seems kind of androgynous not entirely masculine though he seems to start from a masculine place... Loki as well. Loki from the MCU not mythology is clearly androgynous because nobody can agree on whether he's masculine or feminine and get into arguments about it. (lol.... But people do yeah.) Satan is seen as more masculine than feminine but there's still that androgynous component in how he's talked about/depicted sometimes. Probably more so because of other symbolic stuff that gets associated with him though.

There would be no reason for Ben Shapiro to signal that he got dragged to the Barbie film and set fire to Barbie dolls if being a girlboss wasn't you know... a girlboss.



I love this video so much. Not even in a hatewatch sense it's so funny and endearing. Waiting for the 50 minute review of the OTEP and The Birthday Massacre music videos:





Then review this it ends the same way as TBM music video and some of the 'dolls' in the TBM video also have white face masks:



Also the brainwashing plotline thing he's talking about in the Barbie movie is probably based on how conservative men talk about and view women like what I quoted before from that guy on twitter. I don't know to what extent what he's saying is accurate since many disagreed with his interpretation in various ways and I haven't watched the film but with the lens he's using of course the Barbies have to have complete control or live separately from the Kens to avoid being 'brainwashed.'

Generally it depends on the specific details and balance of things. Evil and subversive power and magic are coded as feminine power because we don't like powerful women culturally or 'dark femininity.' Ishtar was appreciated more a long, long time ago. Also androgynous but discussed as a goddess.

Soft power is seen as feminine too typically (cultural exports,) compared to hard power (military force, economic coercion.)

It's only really some heterosexual men who view power and femininity as being mutually exclusive because they think 'I find this unattractive/bad' = unfeminine.

There have existed cultures where women had all the power

True, but very few. In other species it is slightly more common, like spiders. In our species there is an obvious majority.

I don't think there have been any cultures where women had all the power.

Nietzsche uses female pronouns when talking about 'tarantulas.'



(Why do people do this now with pens just buy the ebook or something and highlight it there.)

Not only that, it's de-feminizing if women feel they have to prove that they're as strong/good/smart/etc. as men by doing things that are traditionally male-oriented jobs. Note, I don't say just any male-dominated job, I say male-oriented jobs, as in jobs which are clearly better suited to men than women for physical and emotional reasons. For example, being a soldier is something that some women might be able to do, but that doesn't mean they should. Working on the back of a garbage truck is another job only men do (wonder why that is). Whatever job it is, you always see some ultra-feminist pushing to get it just so she can prove she can do what the boys do, which is actually completely detrimental to her cause because it just highlights the inferiority complex some women have.

I don't think there's anything wrong with women wanting to be masculine. This isn't relevant to the thread topic though. There are forms of power which are obviously seen as feminine.

I don't think feminists generally try to push women to work on garbage trucks. (We use term like dustbin, rubbish lorries lol.) It's really only high status jobs or jobs that relate to independence like being a soldier - suggests you can take care of yourself physically.

I really don't see why some women have to make things such a competition all of the time. I mean, I know it's because they're insecure and uncomfortable with the traditional female role, but it's just a pity to see women trying so hard to do something just because, and thereby setting back the cause that feminism really is.

I know. It almost reminds me of men. 😏

Feminism started as a movement for masculine women. It adopted all kind of weird agendas since that time like a katamari ball:



This video game is so insane lol.

But feminism was never really about feminine women. Everyone just needs to move on from pretending that it was (this thread is 13 years old tbf lol.)

Because it means so many things now a lot of people identify with the term and identification with it is probably increasing in gen z but hardcore activists tend to have certain personality types:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...014.01011/full

The most interesting part of this study was definitely when they found that feminist activists scored higher than both typical females and males lol.

The feminist movement purports to improve conditions for women, and yet only a minority of women in modern societies self-identify as feminists. This is known as the feminist paradox. It has been suggested that feminists exhibit both physiological and psychological characteristics associated with heightened masculinization, which may predispose women for heightened competitiveness, sex-atypical behaviors, and belief in the interchangeability of sex roles.

Figure 2 details results for Directiveness, demonstrating again that the study sample scores higher than both typical females and typical males. Finally, we examined correlations between left and right hand digit ratios and Directiveness, as summarized in Table 3. The reliability of 2D:4D was computed from the inter-rater reliabilities for each finger, i.e., sqrt(0.990 ? 0.994) = 0.9920. The Directiveness instrument is unidimensional per the nature of the items, and the standardized Cronbach's alpha (0.8233, N = 24) was therefore taken as an estimate of its reliability (Schmitt, 1996). All correlations corrected for reliability were statistically significant (p < 0.05), as were all raw correlations but that between left hand 2D:4D and Directiveness.

In summary, the feminist activist sample had a significantly smaller (i.e., masculinized) 2D:4D ratio than the general female samples. The size of this difference corresponds approximately to a 30% difference in prenatal testosterone/estradiol ratio, which was the index found to have the strongest association with 2D:4D (Lutchmaya et al., 2004). Directiveness self-ratings also exhibit a large and highly significant difference in the predicted direction. It is notable that the feminist activist sample 2D:4D was also more masculinized than those of the male comparison samples, except for the left hand in the aggregate sample (see Table 2).

I actually don't think it's a great ideology especially now. I never identified as a feminist. There are a lot of holes/issues. I like postgenderism and transhumanism more. Some parts of feminism kind of overlap with that like cyberfeminism and maybe xenofeminism I dunno. I don't agree with anyone 100% though.

So this is kind of pre-feminism but Mary Wollstonecraft wrote about related topics:

Today Wollstonecraft is regarded as one of the founding feminist philosophers, and feminists often cite both her life and her works as important influences.

One of Wollstonecraft's most scathing critiques in the Rights of Woman is of false and excessive sensibility, particularly in women. She argues that women who succumb to sensibility are "blown about by every momentary gust of feeling" and because they are "the prey of their senses" they cannot think rationally.[137] In fact, she claims, they do harm not only to themselves but to the entire civilisation: these are not women who can help refine a civilisation--a popular eighteenth-century idea--but women who will destroy it. Wollstonecraft does not argue that reason and feeling should act independently of each other; rather, she believes that they should inform each other.[138]

Whatever manliness is, we will not find it by taking stock of features shared among existing men. 'Manly men are more hypothetical than tautological: in Wollstonecraft's estimation, the condition of manliness is something yet to be achieved on any widespread basis,' Abbey (2019, 12) explains. Men's failure to be manly arouses Wollstonecraft's ire for individual men and the social conditions that produce them: 'I presume that rational men will excuse me for endeavoring to persuade them to become more masculine and respectable' (Solomon & Berggren 1983, 271). This is why moral education is so important. Wollstonecraft believes that 'every being may become virtuous by the exercise of its own reason' (274), but this universal potential must be actively developed rather than stifled or perverted by a society's systems of education.

Of course it's hypothetical. Masculinity is a purity cult.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...-031-13071-7_2

Many traditionalist critics would agree with Wollstonecraft that rationality, independence, and productivity are essential to man's true nature, from which we have disastrously diverged. Where they would disagree, and what makes her argument particularly fascinating, is the claim that these things are - cultural perversions aside - woman's true nature as well. Consider Rousseau, the main target of criticism in A Vindication of the Rights of Woman. In contrast to Burke in her earlier essay, Wollstonecraft's critical relationship to Rousseau is more disappointed than antagonistic. The crux of their disagreement is not whether reason is masculine but what Wollstonecraft saw as Rousseau's intellectually inconsistent, anti-Enlightenment assumption that masculine rationality is available to some people (men) but not others (women), as though God had not endowed all of humanity with a capacity for reason. Wollstonecraft writes, 'it is a farce to call any being virtuous whose virtues do not result from the exercise of its own reason. This was Rousseau's opinion respecting men: I extend it to women, and confidently assert that they have been drawn out of their sphere by false refinement, and not by an endeavor to acquire masculine qualities (274?275). To be consistent, Rousseau should either champion or resist the progress of reason in both sexes, Wollstonecraft reasons, 'for if men eat of the tree of knowledge, women will come in for a taste; but only attain a knowledge of evil' (273).

Wollstonecraft assures her readers that women's masculinity--masculinity as she advocates it--is not something to be feared but welcomed: "all those who view them with a philosophic eye must, I should think, wish with me that every day they should grow more and more masculine" (269.) Part of the problem, she allows, is that readers might misunderstand her. Wollstonecraft is not suggesting that women join in hunting, shooting, or gaming. She is not encouraging them to abandon their duties as wives and mothers. Indeed, she argues, by cultivating masculinity as she envisions it, women will thus be more capable wives and mothers than they are under conditions of sexual inequality (347).

"The two sexes mutually corrupt and improve each other," Wollstonecraft writes. "This I believe to be an indisputable truth, extending it to every virtue" (Solomon and Berggren 1983, 337). Both men and women have work to do, personally and culturally, in changing our vicious tendencies. As Gal Gerson puts it, "inequality breeds irrationality at both ends" (2002, 801). The goal here is not for men and women to meet in the middle, as it were, with women developing traditionally masculine traits and men traditionally feminine ones. For Wollstonecraft, the goal is for both men and women to become more masculine in the sense of becoming more rational, independent, and physically and mentally stronger.

I can see why Rachilde wasn't into it lol. This isn't why lol but it would make sense.

The core dynamic of Rachilde's fiction is frequently gender reversal. Either at the outset or as an outcome of the story line there is a biologically female character who seems more culturally masculine and a biologically male character who seems more culturally feminine. There is variation in degree and manifestation, but it is important time and time again.[25][22][29]

The end of this paragraph still cracks me up:

In 1928 she published her brief monograph, Pourquoi je ne suis pas feministe ("Why I Am Not a Feminist"). In this book she discloses an upbringing in which her mother Gabrielle (Feyaud) Eymery assertively devalued her father, remained cold and distant, and insulted young Marguerite at every opportunity. At the same time her father Joseph Eymery was abusive and liberated to pursue his own sexual pleasures outside of marriage, something Gabrielle made clear was not appropriate for a proper lady. She also relayed the story of her mother's ancestral sins and the curse that was placed on her family because of them. Her rejection of feminism was for autobiographical reasons and an envy of freedom, founded in a distaste for both men and women. In the end, she preferred animals to both.[16][3][4]

I think I've made it clear I'm not really a fan of masc4masc ideologies by now lol. I don't like it when gay men do it, I don't like it when masculine women do it. They always had a problem with feminine men and trans women and over time that morphed into an issue with feminine cis women as well. A lot of these women obviously often aren't that masculine themselves it's more of an ideal. Also the men you are pandering to are fucking annoying often and they're never going to respect you if you're afab (which a lot of you already know but you're still doing this.) They're just going to complain about you being a '[BEEP] at the Rush concert.' And then they're going to leave a concert because you're there. I know that post was 13 years ago and not at the peak of their career like the video below. But even so. They're music is really great.



That's what they're going to do lol. That post might have been fake lol but it's a scenario that I can see happening.

I feel like her daughter did more for feminism personally. Because (aside from inventing science fiction,) a lot of feminism now seems to be a very boring victim narrative and it doesn't have much 'vision' as such. (Tbf most things don't now.) The only exception in my personal opinion is when they decide to focus more on technology.

https://conversations.e-flux.com/t/r...firestone/2046

In a sense, Firestone's text is a bridge between Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1818 ) and Donna Haraway's A Cyborg Manifesto (1991): all three challenge the biological imperative of women's bodies, offering an alternate structure for life-giving. Shelley's Frankenstein provided its male protagonist the opportunity to birth a monster, while A Cyborg Manifesto not only championed new technologies, but also utilized the metaphor of the cyborg - a bionically enriched human being to rally feminists to move beyond the limitations inherent in traditional gender roles and normative thinking.

But that's not really fair because I definitely haven't bothered to read anything she's written lol or Frankenstein (though it's not necessary to read that to get the influence.)

Anyway needless to say at some point feminism became several different and contradictory things all at the same time so you have [BEEP] theorists who identify as feminists, and terfs who were influenced by catholicism and young people on social media posting about male tears and anyone who just thinks abortion should be legal, 'choice feminism,' for some insane reason Camille Paglia is called a feminist on wikipedia... Is Jordan Peterson a feminist too? Is it cause she's afab? Amazing. (Maybe she self identified that way at some point though.) Louise Perry and Mary Harrington do that for branding reasons too 'reactionary feminism.' 'They're afab and writing about their thoughts and about gender so it's feminism.' And so on. So it's just like all of politics now (an incoherent mess lol.) It's very fun.

Society doesn't really know what to do with atypical women. Sometimes they create third gender roles etc. Or like whatever they were doing here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestal_Virgin

Vesta's acolytes vowed to serve her for at least thirty years, to study and practise her rites in service of the Roman State, and to maintain their chastity throughout. As well as their obligations on behalf of Rome, Vestals had extraordinary rights and privileges, some of which were granted to no others, male or female.

The Vestals took it in turns to supervise Vesta's hearth so that at least one Vestal was stationed there at all times. Vestals who allowed the sacred fire to go out were punished with whipping. Vestals who lost their chastity were guilty of incestum, and were sentenced to living burial, a bloodless death that must seem voluntary. Their sexual partners, if known, were publicly beaten to death. These were very rare events; most vestals retired with a generous pension and universal respect. They were then free to marry, though few of them did. Some appear to have renewed their vows.

Not easy.

Aquilia Severa (3rd century), whom Emperor Elagabalus married amid considerable scandal.

Lol.

Later historians suggest Elagabalus showed a disregard for Roman religious traditions and sexual taboos. He replaced the traditional head of the Roman pantheon, Jupiter, with the deity Elagabal, of whom he had been high priest. He forced leading members of Rome's government to participate in religious rites celebrating this deity, presiding over them in person. He married four women, including a Vestal Virgin, in addition to lavishing favours on male courtiers thought to have been his lovers.[5][6] He was also reported to have prostituted himself.[7] His behavior estranged the Praetorian Guard, the Senate and the common people alike. Amidst growing opposition, at just 18 years of age he was assassinated and replaced by his cousin Severus Alexander in March 222. The assassination plot against Elagabalus was devised by Julia Maesa and carried out by disaffected members of the Praetorian Guard.

Apart from the part where you get assassinated at 18 I feel like his life was probably more fun.

^ Camille Paglia's entire career is just that sentence I just wrote loolololol. Not quite but yeah.

If you're afab you just work male jobs or some kind of made up ceremonial role that's nothing, have to stay celibate, in some cultures they ban all the androgynous musicians for 'distracting women.' Since gender and personality doesn't have hard categories conservatives like to force you into roles you might dislike or accuse people of corrupting other people. It's bleak.

I say as I haven't tried dating since my early 20s (so I am celibate,) continue to procrastinate on making YouTube videos. Write stupid posts. Playing Runescape on/off so I can get gold to fund Runescape membership in game. Ouroboros. That's what 'failed men' do though right according to Louise Perry etc they play video games. Lol.

It still doesn't appeal more. I don't like the weird sister cult vibes personally. Like I said I was never a feminist.

[Doseone]

I had a dream that I was almost choking on a drill bit. It was in my throat, but I managed to cough it out. Also, I'm pretty sure that I've proved that if consciousness is physical/caused by the physical, we should have access to all the private subjective experiences of what brains are/produce. It's hard to put into words, though. You have to intuit it.