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Same guy as Binface, Buckethead just got sued because it was Buckethead was the character of some American film, so he became Binface.

I like how they have to take him seriously though and he gets to go to the hustings and answer questions.

Oh right I thought they were different people because I saw them both being mentioned in video titles together like Lord Buckethead vs Count Binface. I didn't know about the film character but I noticed there was a guitarist called Buckethead with a mask and KFC bucket on his head.

It's satirical but probably makes more sense then a lot of serious politics lol.

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I haven't really been following the whole of this video series because it's really long (like my posts >.> I'm going to justify this by saying this is millenial vs gen z thing like YouTube video essays vs tiktok and tweets. My obnoxious posts are just millennial culture.) but I've tapped in and out and I thought I recognised the anecdote with J who is/was into ballet from something I read online years ago but it seems like they continued with ballet but on a male dance team. I remember reading this really creepy article by this mum who was fixated on this idea of their child being this ballet dancer basically and mourning the fact that they stopped being into it and other things after coming out as trans. Very unhealthy.

Also 'L Introduced J to anime and computer-animated images of anthropomorphised animals' First of all 'L' very funny. L introduced a lot of [people to anime. (decent soundtrack too.) Secondly they're all so triggered by the anthropomorphic animals all the time. Personally I've never been that into them, even the Disney films with talking animals were my least favourite. The exception being dragons I guess. I mean I think dragons in general are pretty cool. Not quite sure why they see it as such a huge deal (well I do, it's the same reason people fixate on them in 'cringe culture.' Neurodivergent people tend to be drawn to these characters.)

This feels like a really weird culture war delay for a culture that started mostly in the 2000s (well way earlier really, but it took off a bit more in the 2000s, and the parents are only freaking out about it now and since 2015ish. How slow are you? 'Exposed genderbread person in class, horrified one mum.' Hilarious.)

But more seriously imagine someone picking over every single detail of your life and using things like 'wasn't attracted to girls/women, did ballet, played Cinderella once, didn't want a short haircut,' to argue that you're not a trans guy or that you're cisgender. Then many of these same people bizarrely say that being trans reinforces stereotypes. You can't win either way.

to quote in the section about 'G' who is from an Indian background: 'the move was largely successful' and yet they go on to talk about how 'G' is still openly [BEEP] etc online with their friends but just doesn't bring it up with their family. So they're closeted lol.

That quote from Douglas later in the video where he talks about being made to feel like he's betraying women and that his gender is a political battle is something I think a lot of people can relate to. It's a message that's kind of shoved down our throats constantly to guilt trip us. Everyone who is genetically female has this message shoved down their throat.

It's a big part of my issue with feminism (many aspects of it anyway.) You're expected to sacrifice your individuality and question every feeling/motive you have because 'patriarchy.' People who don't go along with this are derided as having internalised misogyny or being 'not like the other girls.' Of course it bothers trans and non-binary people. It also bothers cis women like shoeonhead (this video is a particularly extreme expression of this ideology lol but yeah. The sentiment is unfortunately everywhere.

From the comment section:

"immerse them in traditional Indian culture" Obviously Abigail did no research on this, but, "traditional Indian culture" has a third-gender tradition, the Hijra, and India officially recognized the hijra as a third gender option on things like passports in 2014. But, then again, TERFs have a tendency to completely ignore or work to try to undermine third-gender traditions from all around the world because, if they did admit that they're valid, then they'd be admitting that they're completely and utterly wrong and that Western culture is actually quite unusual in world cultures for NOT having strong third gender or gender variant traditions.

While it's true that some Hindus believe that hijras are 'neither men nor women,' it's worth bearing a couple of things in mind:

1) the label 'Hijra' is usually restricted to amab people,
2) Hijras are very poorly treated in India. More people are willing to acknowledge they exist, and few people would ever refer to them as 'men,' they are very much seen as 'freaks,' and 'homosexuals' (hijra, or the more derogatory chakka are common insults applied to men). It's not something any but the most progressive, open minded parents would be happy to hear about their child. Even the third gender thing might sound progressive until you realise that it is (as far as I can see) pretty much restricted to amab trans femmes.

Yup trans men/trans masc people are forced to be closeted and erased in most cultures and have no place in Indian culture. I've read about this before in India:

The transgender man somehow hasn’t made it to India's collective public imagination, and continues to remain an inscrutable figure in the LGBTI discourse. Siddhant More, a transman from Mumbai laments the fact that his identity is akin to that of an alien’s.

Siddhant also rues the fact that the show Satyamev Jayate, hosted by Aamir Khan invited two transwomen, a lesbian, and a gay man but not a transman. He says, 'That show broke ground with millions of Indians who for the first time saw that members of the LGBTI community were just normal human beings looking for acceptance. It's unfortunate they could not invite a transman citing time-constraints. They could have had a transwoman and a transman each instead of two transwomen. It could’ve made a difference. On a positive note, I was transitioning around the same time the show was televised, and several people who watched it said they understand trans issues better now. '

Siddhant says, ‘Whenever laws and bills are passed regarding transgender rights, transmen are almost never called to the discussion table. Not once, have I been called, nor am I aware of other transmen who've been invited to sit with policy-makers.

So in one article they bring up this old story. A lot of cultures have a story like the below story. The details change slightly but it always involves war or combat. I don't know why people are particularly fixated on this memetic idea of transmasculine or non-binary people in war. I'm still too lazy to make the YouTube video (tm) It reminds me of the 'they/them army' memes that people decided to shitpost about with Ukraine as well.. The juxtaposition presumably amuses or annoys people and of course in the present it's somewhat because everyone's always talking about this topic, but yeah. There's still a historical precedent for some reason. It's weird to have the only historical mythological references be war stories:

In the Mahabharata, one of the two Sanskrit epics from the Indian subcontinent, which narrated the great war between the Pandavas and Kauravas, is the story of Princess Amba who became Shikhandi in another birth. Through rebirth, subsequent cross-dressing, and ‘sex change’, Shikhandi plays one of the decisive roles in the outcome of that great war and a turning point in the epic.

Wikipedia prob summarises it in less characters so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikhandi

Shikhandi, whose natal female identity is sometimes rendered Shikhandini,[3] is the reincarnation of Amba, a princess who was abducted, and later spurned by Bhishma. The prince fights in the Kurukshetra War on the side of his brothers-in-law, the Pandavas, and is instrumental in causing the death of Bhishma. He also engages in combat with great warriors like Ashwatthama, Kripa, and Kritavarma.

Before the Kurukshetra War, Bhima opts for Shikandi to be the commander-in-chief of the Pandava army, as he was born to kill Bhishma, but Arjuna and Krishna prefer Dhrishtadyumna instead. Shikandi is made the commander of one of the seven akshauhinis of the Pandava army.

It seems to be a uh, problematic legacy. And I'm really tired of the eternal 'it's because you can't find the right guy' narrative.

Distressed by her parents' suffering, Shikhandi left the city, deciding to fast to death. She found a forest that humans were terrified to enter, because it was inhabited by a yaksha named Stunakarna.

In Hindu, Jain and Buddhist texts, the yakṣa has a dual personality. On the one hand, a yakṣa may be an inoffensive nature-fairy, associated with woods and mountains; but there is also a darker version of the yakṣa, which is a kind of ghost (bhuta) that haunts the wilderness and waylays and devours travellers, similar to the rakṣasas. She entered the premises of the yaksha, and started to perform austerities. When Stunakarna enquired regarding her practices, Shikhandi told him her tale. Feeling compassionate, the yaksha offered to exchange his sex with her for a certain period of time, to which Shikhandi agreed.

This feels familiar.

Trans masculine identities from mythology and oral folklore transitions, over time, have been mostly not given due importance and therefore, forgotten over time, and not as known in contemporary times as many of the trans feminine mythological figures are. This primarily reflects the deep-seated patriarchy of Indian society. Shikhandi was a trans masculine [BEEP] identity that has often been misinterpreted and stories like those of Chudala have been downplayed historically and culturally. The interpretations and retellings have mostly implied Shikandini to be a eunuch (castrated male) or sometimes an intersex person or even imply gender ambiguity.

Ishtar/Inanna is more of a transfeminine deity (I guess,) who switches people's sex and had a lot of effeminate gay or trans (if you wanted to put them into a western lens,) followers, but also a goddess of war.

Anyway though "There's also people on this hellsite who think that objectivity in art is being corroded by the left and we're gonna come and destroy the nature of beauty and truth itself with fursonas and they/them pronouns and if you're watching this and you believe that it's true we're coming for you."

So back to reality. I think the US is the most open/aware of trans men. And part of that is thanks to writers like Leslie Feinberg and Judith Butler but also lawyers like Chase Strangio. But it's not surprising right it's the most individualist culture in the world and they're not number 1 for legal rights, but they do have a lot of very vocal people. Every famous or high profile trans guy I can think of is from the US (except for certain YouTubers and Elliot Page who is Canadian.) Most non-binary people too. I think there are a couple of famous British non-binary actors now that have popped up in the last couple of years. The one that plays Hunter Schafer's clone on House of Dragon lol... On another British show they hired a non-binary actor from America (Dua Saleh,) to play one of two non-binary characters. I didn't watch the show besides a few clips. Their character is more rebellious and contrasted with the other character (also played by a non-binary actor,) who tries not to shake things up too much. This ethnic choice seemed quite pointed at how things are in the US vs UK.

Let’s play a little game: how many famous transgender women can you name? Five? Ten? Let’s see, there’s Caitlyn Jenner, Laverne Cox, Andreja Pejić, Hari Nef, Kellie Maloney, Nadia Almada, Lily and Lana Wachowski, Lauren Harrie... the list goes on. But what about five famous transgender men? No, I thought not. I’d struggle, and I am trans.

But still to this day right I can't think of anyone in the UK who is a trans guy unless you count YouTubers. There's two, one is Jamie Raines. He's quite pleasant and involved in research. I think high functioning in life. Married to a woman. 'One of the good ones (tm)' The other (whose video I posted before,) obviously is bogged down by the lack of acceptance and avoiding confrontation and many mental health issues, and there's a third person who moved from the UK to France as a teenager and stopped making videos years ago.

It is a hard pill to swallow when you realize that the person that you've become is purely for the benefit, convenience, and comfort of others.

Completely unrelated but this is still the most insane thing I've ever read:

After the swatting incident, Sorrenti said she moved out of her home and into a hotel for her safety.[37][38] After she posted a photograph of her cat on the hotel bed, Kiwi Fa**s users identified the hotel from the bedsheets in the photograph, and sent multiple pizza orders to the hotel under her deadname. "Obviously, the pizza itself isn't the problem. It's the threat they send by telling me they know where I live and are willing to act on it in the real world," she said in a video after the incident.

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I know that Squid Game shot to popularity, but personally, if we're talking about TV shows where you play games that can kill you, Alice in Borderland is the better show in my opinion. Though granted the premise is a lot...weirder.

And the Seven of Hearts Game gets me everytime.

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So I removed this post before because it was long and unnecessary but then decided I wanted to keep parts of it. So... I rewrote it a bit and it's still long...

Apparently some trans people on twitter are freaking out about F1NN5TER. I Don't follow him (his content is clearly geared at a younger and different audience.) He's a crossdresser who can pass as a woman and makes a lot of content centred around that. So a bunch of people have been claiming he's fetishising the transfeminine experience because he'll get less hate than trans women. Some of it is very obviously stemming from a dislike of men. He's not openly gay so is mostly assumed to be straight too. It reminds me a bit of the discourse around Harry Styles complaining about him 'queerbaiting.' Because he crossdresses but is straight.

Personally I like it when a guy looks more feminine/neotenous than me - not sexually - just because it's unfortunately rare given my features. Of course he's getting comments like 'why are you calling this person a man? He's clearly trying to present like a woman.' The guy who tweeted that retracted it after people clarified but it's a shame he didn't clarify that himself.

Someone is using Judith Butler to argue that he must be a trans woman because he must be on hrt because 'why else would you go through the effort?' (No evidence of that. Seems very feminine looking physically even without makeup etc. This was based on a joke tweet where he compared himself crossdressing with a photo of a completely different guy.) That's a bit irritating. Reminds me of this discussion in a Contrapoints video which also irritated me at the time lol. 'Teenage gay boys on instagram, the only people with any coherent vision of contemporary womanhood' 'that's insanity' I can't quote it all there's a few minutes that's relevant than she starts talking about Judith Butler (I'm ideologically closer to Tabby.) As you can see it's not really 'pointless speculative fiction' certainty not for many trans men, but even sufficiently feminine cis men online.

It's weird how people can get to the same point through different pathways. Like some people hate femboys because they're men 'encroaching on female territory,' and some hate them because of their femininity. Someone compared some of the comments about him to terfs and I can see their point. It's very funny actually ideologically speaking, because all these groups have ideological overlap and commonalities. Like radical feminism of the kind that terfs preach is rooted in the Catholic church several writers were ex Catholics/nuns etc. Some trans women have adopted this to varying degrees because 'lesbian feminism' often appeals to them if they're not attracted to men. Conservatives also overlap with trad con Christians.

There are a lot of people pointing out that trans women are expected to look like this or saying things like 'as long as you don't expect trans women to look like this' and it's interesting really. But my view basically is:

1. I don't expect anyone to look a certain way.

2. Even in terms of what I find attractive that isn't my ideal for men or women. It's kind of funny that everyone assumes it is for everyone. His aesthetic is fairly common for femboys I guess this kind of youthful femininity. For starters when I find women attractive at all they tend to be older? And more androgynous in some way or other. The three famous/fictional women I was noticeably attracted to: 1, 2, (Lol I didn't even specify which person. Oh well.) 3.

Also Loki if you count him/her. I like tumblr sexy women I guess? Lol. Problematic. (This song's lyrics don't really work lol as I'm not really sorry, and I grew up in a very diverse town.) I can be into conventional femininity but not romantically really, it's just a sexual thing occasionally. My tastes are very 'bisexual woman from a certain social group and time's stereotypical taste in women' but whatever. Also I'm very rarely attracted to people these days but yeah.

Really puts this video into perspective where they talk about how for a long time they felt they had to play up their femininity to appeal to men then decided to stop dating men because they realised women are attracted to androgyny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhM1NBJN5pU

Until they realised some guys find androgyny attractive. But, this kind of aesthetic F1NN5TER uses has a wide appeal, especially among cis straight men. A lot of people are as I said accusing him of fetishising trans women, but I actually think it's not so niche. He's appealing to the common beauty standards of young white women and as such is making a lot of money off that as you can do online.

Sometimes there's envy involved in the complaints but there's a distaste for when people use femininity for profit. There are a lot of drawbacks to being a man who looks as he does, so I don't begrudge him this. It's certainly not going to make dating straight women easy and I get the impression he's straight.

Also just learnt that streamer guy is British too just like Harry Styles haha (this is a coincidence but yeah.) When I first heard about that guy I thought they were talking about Pyrocynical but couldn't remember his name. He's also British. Crossdresses. There's been a bunch of comments/memes centred on this idea of younger British guys and androgyny though which is weird. It's not really something most here play up.

There's also this ideological viewpoint that appears on social media where essentially if you're deemed to be less oppressed than trans women and relatively feminine you're hurting trans women or trans people (but it's mostly trans women who come up.) I don't want to exaggerate it but there was even that instagram post Hunter Schafer responded to, that's how loud some people are. So they're not keen on afab (genetically female,) people who are feminine but identify as non-binary or trans either. They don't bother to really clarify what they want, so it often just seems like they want people to stfu and not exist. There are certainly trans people who will go after anyone who doesn't pass/transition like Blaire White, but this is a slightly different ideological viewpoint and I've seen way more LGBT+ people ranting about 'theyfabs' which specifies a genetically female person, often who doesn't seem butch or who hasn't medically transitioned as well, than 'theymabs.' Part of that is just the complete invisibility of that group though. They also often dislike drag queens.

This is why I like to shitpost that feminine afab non-binary people are the cis het men of the trans community haha. I'm very easily amused by irony.

I don't know what it's like for young people now and how they feel at this point since they don't open up very often unsurprisingly with the culture and political climate, but it comes with a lot of sacrifice and other issues and limitations eg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dLcDUUUMo

(I was going to quote parts of this but it will make this way too long again.)

Just noticed this... Interesting series of comments on that video lol:

I unfortunately cannot relate with....the gender identity portion? Like...my personal opinions aside. Idk. Poppy z is my favorite writer....sex...male sex is something I will never do because vampires don't exist, my fave androgynous musicians probably won't fawk me any time soon....soooo.....I'm straight, and male and yeah idk. I hate that we relate and....idk. We grew up in a very similar era....idk..I wish to hell we could conversate one on one. ���� Reluctantly, Hugh.

Well and also I am hetero as shit being switchy in only a Greek god sense in which If I didn't kill the person I'd banged I doubt I could live with my identity crisis.

Perhaps also.....you're ok with "she" because after having been goth and looked at as a freak dog sludge monkey.....I know I wouldn't care like when classmates falsely accused me of being "gay" or even debating if I were female bc of "long hair" no...shit...

Biggest thing I think I owe you though....I refer to you as she ...I always will... I'm a hick hetero guy but I respect your feelings and don't do so out of hate or aggression. At a point....it was. Now.... I just hope you can fell HALF as recognized as ur vids make me feel

I think he said he's straight. Lol. I'm hoping he's speaking metaphorically... You don't have to bottom... 'male sex is something I'll never do because vampires don't exist' is pretty funny just as a sentence though.

I do relate to a bunch of stuff in that video (sexually and genderwise,) but I spend so much of my life not engaged with myself. Like I'm incredibly dissociated. To the point of not really existing in a sense a lot of the time. Which obviously contributes to my identity and sexuality issues (it has an overall numbing effect and over the past few years I've found less and less people attractive even in contexts where I used to regularly find at least one person very attractive at any point in time.) I have to go off glimpses of myself here and there. I dunno I feel like that's the kind of thing certain drugs I've told myself are off the table help with. Annoyingly. I'm not the kind of person to take risks at all.

I think about this Porcupine Tree lyric a lot. "I simply am not here no way I- shut up be happy stop whining please." But you know it's somewhat the curse of modern life and other clich?s people say over and over. "There's nothing left, I simply am not here." Also from this song Normal "But am I here? It's kind of hard to tell. I do a good impression of myself. But what's normal now anyhow?" Sometimes it's frustrating because I try to find music to connect and as a coping mechanism (very obviously lol.) But the older I've gotten the less I relate entirely.

The dissociation I feel doesn't feel like depression most of the time but I think Have a Nice Life and Giles Corey do a really good job with depression through music (I also really like Dan's solo stage name. It's taken from a guy who was killed along with his wife during the Salem Witch Trials. "After being arrested, Corey refused to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty. He was subjected to pressing in an effort to force him to plead—the only example of such a sanction in American history—and died after three days of this torture. Because Corey refused to enter a plea, his estate passed on to his sons instead of being seized by the local government.") I have emotional dysregulation issues though and can get angry very easily at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXyRAsBp998

I like the chorus.

And I just don't, and I just don't accept this
I just don't accept this at all
And I just don't, and I just don't accept this
I just don't accept this at all

The actual song meaning lol:

"It’s the end of the world, and God is wreaking havoc on existence. Human beings the world over pile their broken bodies into a giant stairway, from which every remaining survivor shoots hand-made arrows into the sky, killing god and causing his blood, frozen in the infinite cold of space, to fall like hail onto the earth."

Kurt Cobain is left out of this discourse due to being dead for so many years and everyone wants to headcannon him as a trans woman because of things he's mentioned in his journals (it's not usually because he crossdressed from what I've seen no. And I'm not entirely happy that I know these things since I know he never wanted anyone reading those, but I've stumbled on info online. He talked about feeling like an alien a lot when he was younger too, that's something that he actually wrote about in his lyrics and in interviews. Well the other stuff also popped up thematically in his music or otherwise. Had a lot of issues with masculine guys in an archetypal kind of way. Seemed to have some schizoid traits too,) but the people who complain about Harry Styles would probably be freaking out about him if he was young and alive now.



Was this an excuse to post a Nirvana video? Yeah obviously. His greatest 'look' will always be the labcoat imo (I think it pops up a few times in the above video.) Not enough people talk about that. He also invented red and black stripy jumpers without me realising (no probably not but who cares?) Once as a teenager I was just wearing something I forget what with a beanie hat and my dad was critising me to try and get me to stop wearing the hat because I would always wear it inside, and referenced grunge like 'I know this is probably the style like grunge but take off the hat.'' I wasn't going for that or anything at all (plus this was the early 2000s grunge didn't make a proper come back till the early 2010s.) He made putting in no effort a thing and that's beautiful. Respect.

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I noticed the windows 10 search bar had an art design that looked like the Susuwatari from Studio Ghibli but paler with an acorn and leaf and a little star and apparently it is Hayao Miyazaki's birthday lol so that was cute.



Also apparently some romance fiction author faked her death and has come back online to announce she was alive all along. That's pretty messed up (even moreso because she said it was a suicide.) Can we get back Anne Rice? That one actually upset me a bit.

If I've read any of your books that's both a huge deal and means nothing in the sense that I've barely been able to read anything as an adult (besides fanfiction,) I got through like 10% of Dune a few years ago, and haven't read a lot of published fiction in general, but also I have read Twilight which is someone else summed up that series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceP62v1sACI

I never did see the films though actually. And I like some of the actor's other work (Lee Pace, Michael Sheen.)

I've watched some of their videos too many times. It also introduced me to one of the best memes. It's got everything - saxophone music, pixelated low resolution barn video, a horse playing a saxophone, the meta of including the 3D modelling/animation software, it sort of slightly pre-dates gen z memes while inventing the style. Ironic half assed animation work That's very me as someone who did a degree in games art + animation but we only had one module about animation and rigging and I wasn't great at it.

This has that, “I learned how to 3D animate just so I could make this video.” Video kinda vibe

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tl;dr I am in no mood.

Oklahoma has a bill that would ban gender affirming medical procedures for anyone under the age of 26.

This was inevitable because Bigotry always goes for maximum cruelty for the sake of cruelty.

I thought that might be the state where a woman was arrested for being shot and miscarrying but that was Alabama. Some other women have been arrested for miscarrying in Oklahoma. So not really surprising to hear this as it's part of their agenda to remove bodily autonomy and prioritise procreation over everything.



I'm finding this force femme video difficult to [redacted]. Abby Shapiro is more my type and has more believable cottage core lesbian vibes (though she wants men to be masculine so mixed messages.) Thanks for the attempt though! More seriously femininity is demonised in culture so I sometimes feel bad for people like this but if you're going to be a dick:

Trying to find the best timestamp lol. When she started creating the graph though it was too amusing.

"I don't like them." (Also Aubrey Plaza invented grandmacore tbh. the sea witch evil hag blog lol)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLnVLo6uxqo

The sinister horror and contempt.



This is kind of a genre lol 50% are about Girl Defined:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7OjkudXSe0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RNYWb9lnEA

Lol getting side tracked but this video with that one guy who is pissed off at gamers and then says he thinks they should be doing real estate instead. 'Not everyone is into being a fucking landlord' lol. He's not going to like this but you can make money off of video games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvWKlJBjjk

I find it funny that she expressed concern about how if she was a kid now she might have been told she was trans 'if I liked stereotypical masculine things' while her makeup/clothing is doll like and she just spent a significant amount of time complaining that people view femininity as weak and clearly identifies as feminine strongly. Well that is quite the if isn't it? I'm seeing a lot more of these completely feminine women do this lol. She also said 'when I was on the left' and those people do tend to be the most obnoxious tbh.

Do they not realise how even in the trans community if you're not conforming people will constantly doubt and question your identity? People have to fight very hard and will often be turned down for hrt on the basis of not meeting stereotypes.

Like, 2-3 years ago I bought some feminine clothing, and I told about that to my therapist about it, she kinda shut down about questioning my gender, like ?people who are usually gender non-conforming we can see it in their clothing/behaviour, you don?t seem like it?

Exactly tired of this [BEEP] lol. And the whole 'oh I picked up a ball once in theory and I totally would have been trans'd if I was a teenager now' has this energy:



Let's say hypothetically you were a gamer

Another stupid quote: "She [Abigail Shrier] also talks about how these girls don't have a way to be oppressed which I 100% agree with." "A lot of these white teenage girls will really want a way to be oppressed because everyone else is constantly talking about how they're oppressed because of their race or their gender or class so you can easily say you're non-binary because apparently that doesn't have a definition.."

OK so from the woman who was just complaining about feminine women being criticised and non-binary does have a definition. And if that's the logic then why do you assume it's mostly 'teen girls' don't we generally view women as being more oppressed than men in culture? I believe we fucking do.

I don't know why she thinks it's high status to be trans masc or non-binary but I'm starting to think these people are just projecting their own feelings of inferiority by assuming trans is cool (same reason some people are bizarrely arguing that every celebrity has undergone 'elite gender inversion.' What? Trans people face high rates of poverty lol statistically, it's not very elite. You saw Caitlyn Jenner and Lady Gaga and lost your mind.) Meanwhile people in the trans community will take issue with you if you don't pass/conform or if you identify partly or wholly as a man, and progressives are notably misandric. Her entire view is just so dumb if you actually have exposure to any trans or non-binary people especially online - and they bring up the internet constantly. Look there is always a group of people who hate you on the basis of a group you belong to, it's just a matter of percentages that varies, and I don't care to argue over the percentages.

This is the experience of most trans and non-binary people. Alienation with all of the external critical voices usually without the religious dynamic but sometimes with the religious dynamic (and then hostile aggression from some.) It's the faux concern and infantalisation as a means to control people that's really fucking annoying.

But more importantly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFQKP3Ehucg

Frank Zappa invented video game music before commercial video games existed. It's very random Japanese video game. Maybe Mario or Katamari Damacy lol I remember playing one of those games for the PS2 I think when I was 18. Someone I knew introduced me to it because he had a copy. It was so random. You just roll everything up into a giant ball. 0:22 in this track is actually reminding me of something a lot though and I'm not sure what.

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Went on twitter and there was a tweet from someone inquiring about how there were almost 2000 trans people in the town I live in and they were wondering why they don't know any. That was weird. Someone I follow had responded to it so their tweet ended up on my timeline.

Someone else requested to use some of my videos in their YouTube video recently and I went to look at their video when uploaded and someone had commented on the video who obviously knew them in real life mentioning they were x from y as well. It was kind of weird because the topic of the video was such a niche in the first place. I don't know if they still live here and perhaps never did and just met them while visiting.

Anyway, I'm trying to be a hermit here. (That's also why you've never met me.)

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I finished watching Schitt's Creek. It's pretty entertaining. The casting is mostly great. I want to watch this film now because it looks like the horror version of The Room:



I wouldn't say it's a very deep story considering the themes and obviously it's a sitcom so that impacts things too. The town doesn't feel very real or lived in like in say Parks and Rec and it's usually suffering from 'everyone's lives are centred around the main character's' syndrome. Lol:



There's some attempt at class analysis but not really and it's definitely utopian. The second half of the show was mostly focussed on a couple of relationships, and a business venture involving some other characters.

There's a pretty prominent character on the show who it was hinted at was a lesbian but there were only two mentions of that on the show in the last season. One I didn't actually even notice but read about online, and the other in the last episode where it references that she had a relationship with someone. That's all off screen though.

So as I said it's not that 'deep' (I want to say it's not a comedy drama, but it is (I didn't really feel that in the tone.) So I'll say it's not Scrubs I guess,) so there aren't a lot of emotional scenes imo, but this one made me tear up a bit (spoilery I guess):



I've since started watching Abbott Elementary because that was another high rated comedy when I was looking for new shows to watch recently and everything Michael Schur has worked on lately has gotten cancelled. (Often he wasn't both directing and writing just one or the other and his best shows are when he does both like Parks and Rec, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, and The Good Place. Also some stuff where he just worked as the executive producer.) Single Parents was decent but got cancelled after the 2nd season, same with Rutherford Falls which I thought had a lot of potential but sadly didn't entirely live up to it. It was cool to see Native American characters on a TV show.

He also worked as executive producer on Q-Force which I vaguely remember hearing about and thought that seemed cheesy and had potential to be terrible (seemed like they just chucked stuff together they thought sounded relevant on paper.)

So Abbot's Elementary is another mockumentary show and seems pretty good so far. Found this review video. This isn't related but at one point there's a clip from one of the actor's who plays a minor character talking about Runescape beats:

https://youtu.be/QPJ2DPRnDAg?t=223

I want a beat that sounds like 'Runescape mixed with Jodeci, mixed with Almond milk mixed with domestic violence. Make me a pro-lifer beat.'

That's the only time anyone has said that sentence ever. Lol Runescape beat. It's like when they sampled the Lavender Town theme lol.

I wanted to do something with Runescape musically unironically (well a little ironically. Obviously.) Not hiphop though trying something experimental. But I'm too unmotivated.

I really like the low/high pitch thing a lot of artists do these days in many genres and by these days I mean the last decade or so. I like stuff like this a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S40KVjsdCCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMMK228n7nU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_e4CZ4OYk

I can't post the music video because it's really graphically violent but I think it's much better quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc02o3ouAqE

edit: lmfao I can't post the music video because it's graphically violent (again) this is way more subtle but still cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk1qjjU9jQc

But it's mostly because his vocals always sound a bit unhinged:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivZpxczQzvI

Brassica Prime the cabbage God in Runescape (as you do,) kind of has a voice like this just a hilarious character so wanted to do something with him.

This is great too because it combines classical music with chiptune and then it's also electronic and sort of industrial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiCEzJIDpwU

There is some Runescape rap though lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgfuYp9ow0

^ this is very funny because this guy's flow is borderline professional and can sing pretty well too lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QkawW3DXfQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgMM2E7mFuw

For me I actually play Runescape but this isn't just completely random for people lol. Runescape music is actually copyright free which is rare.

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Obviously this tweet is really dumb for the obvious reasons (very few Humans are lacking a fear response,) but I think what they're getting at is that they have a particularly strong threat response to men where they worry a lot about violence (an inherent part of their ideology depends on this,) which I don't really have (to the same degree.) I see no particular gender difference in fear response about that in my family either. And I can't help find listening to terfs do this irritating. I could probably work on that but they're always weaponising it so I'm not overly inclined to...

I have generalised and social anxiety so especially since that got worse a year or so ago (but it's always been a thing to some degree.) I tend to neurotically worry about just about anything but I don't have much of a fear of direct physical violence which they seem to have. My biggest fears are nuclear war and health related stuff. I also have a fear of gas/fire.

I don't think it's entirely innate either. I notice that my own fear response is environmentally influenced. Also my response time can be really [BEEP] lol. I remember one particularly strange time my mum made me jump by coming into my room, but my startle response was so delayed that I sat and stared at her for multiple seconds before it happened. Was so weird/funny. I think it made her jump because my behaviour was so weird. And I can be a bit mentally slow.

There's research that shows autistic toddlers experience less of a fear response to scary stimuli (and as we know autistic people are less likely to pick up on social expectations/rules/scripts etc):

Toddlers with autism show less fear when confronted with something scary than do typical children or those with developmental delay. This lack of fear may explain why toddlers with autism often run into traffic or deep bodies of water.

I don't have diagnosed autism but I have a lot of symptoms and just before my mum went into labour with my brother she said she was trying to stop me from running out into the road (and it's a very busy road,) my dad also said I was always trying to run into the sea at the beach. I don't remember this but he's brought it up a bunch of times because it was difficult going to the beach with me (my brother just lazily sat around eating sand lol.) Eventually I learnt to be a much more anxious and risk averse person. Not so much about the sea though. I was obsessed with mermaids for a while. I really wanted there to be a way to get a tail while I was in water.

The children also confronted a social fear: A stranger enters the room and stands too close. Again, the children with autism showed less fear than typical children and had little physiological reaction

Studies involving parent reports show that children with autism tend to have either a neutral or negative response to emotional situations. Based on these results, toddlers on the spectrum would be expected to show either little reaction to any of the stimuli, or more fear and less joy than controls.

?We really didn?t expect this. We know children with autism are more anxious and fearful later on in life, and we expected them to be more fearful in these probes,? says Suzanne Macari, co-director of the Yale Early Social Cognition Program, who presented part of the research

And this is particularly relevant here because this same group of people always talk about how neurodiverse and autistic afab trans people are while insisting they should live as non-conforming women, but then in an effort to exclude trans women they resort to essentialising the experiences of all women.

I'm cis and I don't feel afraid or vulnerable. What up lads I guess.

Her bio:

𝕲𝖔𝖙𝖍 🕷 𝖂𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 🦇

I'm really surprised that bat emoji is showing up lol. Most don't seem to. Never mind I edited the post and it's all gone. Oh I see now you can only keep the formatting if you edit in advanced mode interesting.

the best accessories include a sparkling dagger, a raven on your shoulder, the blood of your enemies

Their ideology is also racist to goths yeah (lol no but-) I mean it gives you a different lens for viewing the world because you're often seen as a monster/Satan Worshipper/horror movie villain and so on (*insert many news articles about the goths are being accused of x again/goth woman in China is told she can't board train without removing makeup which might distress people and so on.*) And part of that is because at a certain point - and I think you could probably credit Anne Rice in part for this - the focus of gothic fiction (which has impacted alternative subcultures a lot,) shifted to empathising more with monsters and subverting the stereotype. One take on early gothic fiction is that it was a reaction to changing cultural and economic norms:

The Gothic tradition originated in response to a period of rapid and far-reaching societal, cultural, and theological change in eighteenth-century Europe. Works written in this tradition are inherently linked to the social context in which they were created, and a great deal of critical commentary focuses on the representation of societal and cultural fear in the face of the dissolution of tradition, gender roles, oppression, and race in Gothic literature.

And this cultural process continued until you eventually get Twilight where the vampires are essentially fairies (elves/angels,) who sparkle in the sunlight and the whole thing is a bit Christian (Do Christians acknowledge this? No they think it's Satanic. I believe an episode of Parks and Rec kind of addressed that when the townsfolk are arguing about Twilight. 'So too Christian and not Christian enough? Do you see the irony here? No?') This had further reaching influence too which is why you see so many anti-villains now and redemption arcs in fiction. And The Sun writes articles about how 'snowflake' students feel increasing sympathy today for Frankenstein's monster.

'It's interesting when I teach the book now, students are very sentimental towards the being,' Professor Groom wrote.

'There's been a gradual shift... for years Victor Frankenstein's creation was known as the Monster, then critics seemed to identify him as a victim and called him the Creature. That fits more with students' sensibilities today.'

Fear and empathy are kind of opposites. 'I am Human and deserve to be loved' (For some reason Smiths song/album titles keep trending lately and everytime I click I think it's about some news story or something like 'The Queen is Dead' and 'Girlfriend in a Coma'

I remember distinctly reading a post from someone back when the gender critical subreddit was still around who was questioning this tendency in film to Humanise villains and also criticising the trans writer Billy Martin (pen name Poppy Z Brite.) Who has written a bunch of gothic horror novels with gay male characters. The poster there was writing about the 'types of trans men' based on their experience talking to people online and often posing as trans to get people to open up to them. Something that even the people on that subreddit were a little uncomfortable with. So they concluded there were three types and one was essentially 'psychopathic' people who she felt were socialised partly as male so ended up very antisocial and with violent tendencies and thoughts etc. She seemed to conclude that author was part of that category maybe crossed with the second (kind of fantastical schizotypal imaginative people with colourful presentation who like fairies/elves etc who are attention seeking.) The first category was just the stereotype they usually use with like a lost/traumatised GNC/butch lesbian. And they have no strange sexual quirks or atypical interests of course. 😏 (unlike their 2nd and 3rd group,) Because they are the chosen 'pure ones.' Who must be 'saved.'

In gothic fiction women are also often villains and predators. There's the lesbian vampire trope but also some degree of role reversal in general. You have like Lucy from Dracula. This tends to be academically viewed through the lens of a misogynistic projection on the part of male writers. It does however break the traditional norm of women as prey or victims.

Patrick Wolf is not a goth musician (in the sense of the music genre,) but does explore gothic themes in some of his music. There's this song about Lucy from Dracula There's a werewolf metaphor about gender identity, and I think because I discovered his music through a Sims 2 writer I followed as a teenager who was into a lot of goth and darkwave music (she was like in her 30s at the time,) and listened to him that contributed to my association here too.

She had a character based on him called Jacob (because he has a song called Jacob's ladder, this song was always too short because it had great vibes,) and before that she'd created a character called Tristan who was a vampire (two of her main characters were loosely based on The Cure and another was based on Spike from Buffy.) This was actually a really great series about vampires and stuff lol. Anyway Tristan was also based on the myth of Tristan and Isolde which he'd written a song about (she wasn't influenced by him here though, they'd independently created stuff inspired by the myth. He also has a bunch of lyrics mentioning mythology and mythological figures. Eg: Selene and Fenrir here)

The lyrics of Tristan kind of play with contrasting these dichotomies too like "I am the tragedy. And the heroine." "I am lost. And I am rescuing." "I am trouble. And I am troubled too." "I am the victim. And the murderer." "I am fucked. And I am fucking too." During this period he was questioning whether he was bisexual or gay so there are songs that talk about his relationships with women and they tend to break gender norms again. "You were my husband, my wife, my heroine." Yes I had a huge crush on him back then obviously. He has another song Vulture where he's playing both the submissive and dominant in the music video. His dominant persona kind of looks like Sephiroth or maybe Thranduil lol.

While this kind of works towards my overall point it's an incredibly unnecessarily detailed tangent. Thranduil is hot too though ftr. Do that to me. What did I say about this video. It's always relevant

But ThE GoTh SuBcULtUre is a MuSiC BaSeD SuBcUlTuRe yes I know that's why it's endured for 40 years long past all the other music subcultures never really disappearing the entire time, and has a global following and the original bands weren't ever inspired by- oh no. There;s nothing historically and culturally important/interesting going on here at all it's just goth and death rock are great. They are great but no.

So there's an obvious cultural tendency here 'girls watch out for those weirdos. We are the weirdos mister.' and then people end up embodying those themes/archetypes to some extent and it all impacts your identity in terms of that dichotomy. Then alternative cultures also often encourage transgression to varying degrees so long as you're not harming anyone.

More cultural relativity which isn't necessarily innate.

Defining womanhood by constant fear and anguish sounds like something you'd need a therapist for. Not the defining characteristic of your identity.

I completely agree.

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So someone asked an AI to turn countries into villians. Am in love with some of them.

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Love The Netherlands and South Africa.



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So in response to Scotland's gender recognition reform the UK government are saying that this will be invalid outside Scotland while meanwhile acknowledging the gender certification of Icelandic people (among many other countries,) who have legal non-binary recognition too (something the recent changes in Scotland didn't include they decided to remove this due to the general conservatism on this matter in the UK.)

It's hard not to interpret this as an attempt at controlling Scotland to bring it in line with Westminster.

Also that government page has to be misleading though to some extent. There's no way if a non-binary Icelandic person comes over to this hellscape they're going to have legal recognition even though it implies that. I assume they'll refuse any cases but it probably hasn't come up due to non-binary people being a minority and then the number of people from Iceland who would want to move to an objectively worse country with less per capita good bands/musicians (hah) has to be slim.



Tr? m?n er a? allt fari ej vel



Lol. Uploaded it as an image but the background colour is slightly off and I could have changed that but cba now.

It's very necessary how Plumbella will just do this (the title of the video) Though I need a short or something too lazy to dig up reaction clips. Not that labour are better on this or many topics. So. It's all shit.

Oh I see they let Graham Linehan back on twitter (he already was he was just posting under an alt account lol,) so he can go back to insisting bisexual people aren't bisexual





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Lol.

I have no idea what letter this is. His particular whiteknight rhetorical style is really cringe and common here. I don't know how to put it. It's just particularly irritating.

The UK is so weird/broken these days. Anyway I looked and Bill Bailey's twitter account is still around so either he came back or I'm confused about that too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlpoMVoa...jpg&name=small

^ A very annoying contemptible man. He's also tweeting about how someone's dad was 'driven to alcoholism' because their child went on testosterone and 'they can see them disappearing before their eyes.' Please tell us more about how you want to control genetic female bodies.

Someone posted this screenshot below as an illustration of the 'terf to alt-right' pipeline but he's a bog standard transphobe who attacked Anita Sarkeesian saying 'why did I defend you years ago if you're just going to hand everything to another group of men' I wouldn't ideologically consider a terf. He's very entitled and reminds me of this blog post I read like the sexist repressed 'progressive' males. (Cause I'm sure he considers himself broadly left wing.) Another thing is it's actually better illustrating what research has found about conspiracy theories where the biggest predictor that someone will believe one is if they believe another. They tend to just adopt them all if they're susceptible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl9gbSYX...jpg&name=small

It's a great article/blog post (whatever it is,) actually called 'I see trad people.'

https://status451.com/2017/11/05/i-see-trad-people/

A big sign that we are onto something is that this stereotype has already found its millennial counterpart: that of the vocal male feminist who is discovered to have creeped on or sexually assaulted women, aka the Whedon Effect. It?s a trope that has appeared in the ultra-liberal scene of Hollywood, as well as with opponents of the loudly-claimed-to-be-misogynist GamerGate. Note that I?m not implying that conservative tendencies imply misogyny. Rather, I?m suggesting that a man who is predisposed to acting in a dominating or paternal role towards women but represses it, will likely turn into an abuser when their urges boil over, as their protective stance turns possessive.

(The UK is very repressed I think culturally so this tracks imo.)

glinner going after bi people is revealing. he lacks the (little) discipline the other transphobes have, he's already starting on the next letter. he's a glimpse of how they'd all act if they felt they could

He's doing 'the thing' a lot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlZWxjqX...jpg&name=large

You know the 'protect our symbol of Christian purity like the butch lesbians who are not like these creepy sexually ambiguous fujoshi etc types. ewww paraphiles with their non-standard sexual interests and neurodivergence.' (One variant of good LGBT+ victims vs bad.) They hate bisexuals and they hate trans people. And the less gender conforming in their transitioned to sex/straight the trans person the more they hate them too because someone always has to be the predator vs prey in the Christian moral system and the people who are just lost GNC homosexuals just 'need to be saved.' "Everything in its right place. There are two colors in my head"



I'm OK with reclaiming straight fetishist though. Just like fujoshi. And autoandrophile. Actually my biggest fetish is mind control which I know they hate due to it's relationship with other gendery/sexuality distorting interests, but they haven't come up with a slur for it yet so chop chop. I'm not a homosexual and have never identified as a homosexual. You have gravely underestimated some of us. If you believe it then it's true and we're coming for you (not Homosexuals. Glinner a straight man.)


I don't know why but this cracked me up (I think they mean re-tweeted) like why did he do it?:

He retreated my profile picture the other day at like 3am Dublin time and I still have no fucking idea why.

Matt Walsh decided to insist that trans women don't date other trans women and now some trans women are posting makeout videos in his replies. Matt might be a genius after all. I'm still mad he didn't actually watch the anime he promised to though by finding a loophole. So close to him being forced to watch Princess Jellyfish or something even more entertaining.

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I feel this should be obvious, but if you apply for a US visa and that requires you to tick a box saying you've never done drugs, you probably then shouldn't write in your memoirs, "I did drugs".

I wonder if we'll see yet more royal drama in the months to come of "I was told to leave the US because I practically admitted to lying on my visa application in my memoir."

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So, are we ever not going to have Meghan and Harry drama?

Like, the tabloids are brutal here. I totally get not wanting anything to do with them. Most people sympathise with that. Lord knows, I completely get deciding that you would be a lot saner if you were in a completely different country to the Daily Mail when you're being featured in it regularly.

But honestly, it's getting absurd. So I will put to you the situation in the UK right now.

Energy costs are sky high. We have people striking left, right and centre over the fact that they aren't being paid enough to cover the increase in cost of living. Inflation is at 10%, so food costs have shot up. But the biggest problem right now is that it is the middle of winter and the electric bill is now 3x what it was 2 years ago. Waitlists for medical procedures are at an all time high, for some things, you will be lucky to be seen within a year. Staff are leaving the NHS because they are not being paid enough. The nearest GP appointment is 2 months away in some areas, just so you can get on the waitlist. NHS Dentistry...lol. Good luck getting one.

Seriously, it's so tone deaf some of the stuff coming out of them, at times. "We are not getting our taxpayer funded security because we live abroad". "We had our funding cut off by the royal families so now we only have a few million from a trust fund to live off of", and yet again moaning about there lives from a multi-million mansion in California, during a brutal cost of living crisis. Things would have been different a few years back, probably would have had a lot more sympathy. Lord knows, people could have done with the royal gossip during the lockdowns.

Plot-twist: They're actually in on a government conspiracy to distract us all from failings here.

Also, telling us all in a book about your brothers genitals is just bloody weird. And did we really need an in depth description about how you lost your virginity?

[Nyctophilia]

*Trans women exist on lesbian subreddits.*

le twitter terf:

Sappho is rolling her ancient [BEEP] grave,

But is Sappho specifically rolling in her grave?

She seemed to have some association with Adonis. Considering he was a Western bishounen figure, and since this ticks all my interest/pattern matching boxes (and I'm insane,) I will go digging. I don't expect to find much though.

Cytherea, thy dainty Adonis is dying!
Ah, what shall we do?
O Nymphs, let it echo, the voice of your crying,
The greenwood through!

He is an annually-renewed, ever-youthful vegetation god, a life-death-rebirth deity whose nature is tied to the calendar. His cult belonged to women: the cult of dying Adonis was fully-developed in the circle of young girls around Sappho on Lesbos, about 600 BC, as a fragment of Sappho reveals.

Adonis was also said to have been loved by other gods such as Apollo, Heracles and Dionysus. He was described as androgynous for he acted like a man in his affections for Aphrodite but as a woman for Apollo. "Androgynous" here means that Adonis took on the passive feminine role in his love with Apollo.

I started reading this:

https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpress...&brand=ucpress

Sappho's Gaze: Fantasies of a Goddess and Young Man - Eva Stehle

In the fragments of Sappho's poetry and notices about its contents, references to four myths which belong to a common pattern can be detected. These are the stories oleos and Tithonos, Selene and Endymion, Aphrodite and Adonis, and Aphrodite and Phaon. The last is complicated by "biographical" descriptions of Sappho's own thwarted love for Phaon.

it keeps a space open for fantasies of sexual encounter not controlled by the location of the phallus. So long as the contradiction is unresolved, the phallus is a symbol of domination; the Freudian/Lacanian phallus that imposes definition on the relationship is an indeterminate presence in the envisioned union. [...] It can be staged in the imagination according to the script of male dominance, but also from the position of a woman's desire to "possess" the man, from a position of narcissism, voyeurism, or fetishism, of refusal of the Oedipus resolution, of a woman's refusal of compulsory heterosexuality.

The academia of it all. #soundslikeapaperaboutfujoshi tbh.

And then it gets more like that:

Sappho would have reinstated the operation of the male/female hierarchy by analogy had she used the gaze to objectify the one desired. Instead she constructs poetry in and through which the gaze opens the self to disintegration, shifting position, identification with the other, or mirroring of the viewer's desiring self.[91] Through her use of the gaze to dissolve hierarchy, Sappho creates the same kind of open space for imagining unscripted sexual relations that the mythic pattern of goddess with young man makes possible. By this means Sappho can represent an alternative for women to the cultural norms

Because basically it's a feminist 'gaze' analysis.

Something like this:

Drawing on Bourdieu?s concept of habitus and Deleuze?s idea of desire, this paper notes that expressions and alterations regarding sexual desire by Chinese female spectators are reflected in their imagined projections and consumption of BL media as part of their identity construction.

Or uh I can't find anything quickly and I cba to search but I've definitely read papers like this before. Alongside Freudian analysis like Mari Mori being a 'Japanese electra' it gets very theoretical and abstract.

I've just been kind of distracted by this Chinese subculture I'm just learning about now lol:

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...021_Case_Study

After the online series Word of Honor aired in 2021, ?nisu (泥塑)?, which refers to fans giving male characters traditional feminine traits in their second creations, became more frequent in Chinese fan culture. This ?idiosyncrasy?, once marginalized by mainstream fans, seems to be going mainstream.

Word of Honor is a web series adapted from a Chinese boys' love novel Tian Ya Ke

Second, nisu fans recreate pictures of the male celebrity to highlight his femininity. They usually use software such as Photoshop to soften the facial lines, lighten the skin tone, and add makeup and stickers to hint the femininity. Below shows that a fan added the princess's crown to Zhehan Zhang.

In addition, nisu fans also use AI face-changing software to feminize male celebrities more intuitively.

Hah yeah, same. Here's one I made earlier. Already genderfluid though so it's cannon. It was basically the first thing I tried to do with the tech years ago. Since 2015/2016~ I don't ever bother to create digital art unless I have the sudden urge to build a waifu apparently.

I think I've seen that photoshopped crown image before though actually lol. Just didn't know about the subculture name.

A growing number of female fans are calling male celebrities "laopo" on public platforms or places. "Laopo (老婆)" is a word commonly used by husbands to address their wives in spoken Chinese. It can not only reflect the identity of "wife" but also express the intimacy and love of men for women in a romantic relationship. Similarly, women often call their husbands or lovers "laogong (老公)". Therefore, calling a male celebrity "laopo" has always been a kind of "nisu (泥塑)" behavior.

Lol. 'Nisu behaviour.' I don't know that it's a great idea to label this 'transgender' in the paper lol. (And I mean they don't in the text of the paper but they've put it in the keywords so people stumble on it more easily.) Inb4 cancelled as chasers (can guarantee this is already happening.) You can't win because if cis straight men think they're the target they'll be pissed off and same with trans women and so on. Actually they do refer to 'gender identity disorder person' at one point so this might be translated awkwardly or something.

For example, the nisu fan fiction Xiazhui, which is the trigger of the 227 incident, sets its main character as a gender identity disorder person.

The 227 incident?

The Boycott against Xiao Zhan Incident, also known as the 227 Incident, is a 2020 online controversy that originated between the fans of Chinese actor Xiao Zhan and Archive of Our Own users in Mainland China.[1][2] The incident started when the internet censorship system known as the Great Firewall of China blocked the fan fiction publishing platform Archive of Our Own in the country, due to concerns about the actor's fanbase regarding vulgar and explicit content on the website.[3]

On February 24, links of the chapters 12 and 13 of the novel Falling (下坠) were posted by the author on the Chinese social networking site Weibo.[5] On February 26, 2020, some of Xiao Zhan's fans claimed that the work contains explicit pornographic content and the feminization of Xiao Zhan, as sketched by users "一只汐哥哥" and "一个执白".[6] Many fans took it as an insult to the actor, denouncing it on Weibo. Author "迪迪出逃记" and the graphic artists were the main targets of criticism. Users "来碗甜粥吗" and "巴南区小兔赞比", the "opinion leaders" among Xiao Zhan's fanbase, are recognized as the leaders of the reporting incident against the author and the graphic artists. In a Weibo post on February 26, user "巴南区小兔赞比" said that "actors and their fans" do not need to "accept vulgar underage prostitution literature based on artists" and "such behavior not only infringes on the artist's reputation, but also pollutes the online environment and brings down a large number of underaged fans who lack judgement".[7] On February 29, 2020, Archive of Our Own was officially blocked in mainland China.[8]

Yeah they do this sort of thing a lot. They imprisoned someone for writing + selling yaoi (well danmei?) for 10 years. I'm impressed people still try to find ways around this constant censorship. This sounds pretty insane (why were people even blaming him for porn other people made of him?):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycot..._Zhan_Incident

So I found this hilarious article about this on twitter after searching or podcast transcript? I don't get what it is (it's called Chaoyang Trap house which I guess is a reference to Chapo Trap House which is a political podcast,):

S01 Episode 2: Advanced Lesbianism / Luo Xiang Detective Club

My first question was: is this an advanced form of lesbianism?

To investigate, I asked my other friend and official lesbian correspondent R. She didn't recognize it as such, but said that it might be because it?s too advanced. I assured her that she was a very advanced lesbian. She said she wasn?t worried about her own advanced-ness, then informed me that lesbians have their own cultural icons and don't bother with male celebrities.

So, female heterosexual desire is still at the core of this. Under a nisu interpretation, the idol doesn't necessarily swap genders'male pronouns are still used' he just takes on a female character. But why? Where some Weibo users talk about 'the beauty of gender fluidity,' others put it more bluntly: 'There's nothing to like about masculinity.'

omg. This is hilarious. And they're never going to stop being confused.

Ting: When I first stumbled into the world of nisu, my first thought was: Judith Butler would have a field day with this.

Yan: I introduced nisu to my 'advanced?' bi friend. She replied, 'I just realized that my love for men had always been filled with a touch of nisu. My gratitude to whoever invented this concept. It's a moment of self discovery.'

Why do they do they keep saying 'advanced' I'm dying. 🤣 I fall down such ridiculous rabbit holes all the time.

There's also a lot of feminist post rationalisations in this (which is also common in research papers,) and attempts to desexualise it. perhaps sometimes it's true, but yeah. They sound like post rationalisations to make it sound better and more feminist 'I'm not sadistic it's just that society did this to me so' I dunno. I also don't enjoy when people try to turn my sexual/romantic interests into political ideology and force it into a political lens. 'This seems borderline problematic let's desexualise it to make it less so.' meh.

You could call it 'political advanced lesbianism' lmao.

Also in the paper there's this great part where they're basically shaming people for it being 'male gaze' and because 'such desires need to be realized through male power.' Then they also sort of blame them for being insecure about it lmfao:

However, nisu also has its limitation in terms of gender politics. First, nisu replicates male supremacy. As a way of empowering women under the pressure of patriarchal power, the nisu reflects a kind of reverse gaze of females towards males. However, the essence of this kind of gaze is the same as that of the male gaze, which is a reproduction of gender hegemonism.

Finally, slut-shame still exists. First, some of the interviewees involved in this study were too shy to express their desires and were reluctant to admit that they were nisu fans in interviews. However, the fact that they post erotic statements on their social media accounts confirms the existence of their desires. Second, although nisu provide a secret space for women to relieve their desires, such desires need to be realized through male power. Nisu fans legitimize their desires by emphasizing their male identity in a virtual relationship.

In conclusion, this paper took Word of Honor as a case study to explain the phenomenon and meanings of nisu culture in Chinese fandom from the perspective of the female gaze, and evaluated its positive impact and limitations on female empowerment and gender consciousness. However, nisu is a minority cultural circle and has been rejected by the mainstream fan culture for a long time due to its special erotic attributes. As a result, it is difficult for the researcher to get in touch with the core members and contributors in a short period of time and gain the full trust of all the respondents. Therefore, this study is more exposed to the part of nisu culture that has been or is being recognized and accepted by mainstream culture. The parts that are hard to be revealed still need to be explored further.

Anyway back to the West (tm)

Anchises' statement in the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite that men who sleep with goddesses do not flourish and Hermes' fear that Kirke might unman Odysseus fit in here. In these cases the goddess's control of the phallus is taken literally; it is lost to the man.

However, what most forcibly strikes one about the fragments and notices is that the young man is portrayed at the point of impotence. Endymion is sleeping, Adonis dying.[97] By portraying the man's "strengthlessness," Sappho reinstates hierarchy: the young man is demoted to passivity, and the goddess prevails. The goddess can gaze at the young man with a possessive look. [..] But the goddess and youth cannot be a couple because he is succumbing or has succumbed to the fate that destroys him in the canonical narrative. Sappho invokes narrative closure as it enervates the mortal, assimilates him to a non-man, in order to preserve the male/female hierarchy.

"Even in the meme it's on fire" this video pops into my head all the time now lol. Perfectly normal. It feels like they're doing a lot with very little here actually but I get that. But this isn't specifically what I'm looking for....

Other examples of the story pattern exist?Kybele and Attis, for instance, Eos and Kleitos, Hylas and the nymphs, the story of Hermaphroditus found in Ovid.

Quotes from other stuff:

Two different accounts of the death of Attis were current. According to the one he was killed by a boar, like Adonis.

Hmm

They're actually very similar in a lot of ways both being vegetation gods, and then they die young and flowers are spawned from their blood.

Cybele herself may have begun as an entity known as Agdistis, a being of great power who was both male and female and bore the most beautiful man in the world, Attis. Agdistis, or Cybele, then fell in love with him

The Greek mythology (incest) of it all. (Also that makes sense Aphrodite is also kind of castrated Inanna from Mesopotamia. And Dumuzid eventually became Adonis.)

Agdistis is a hermaphrodite or androgynous being; having both the male and female sexual organs. This dual nature of Agdistis made them symbolic of the wild and uncontrollable nature. This is an aspect that was seen as so threatening to the other gods that they sought to destroy Agdistis. The one explanation found or given is that with Agdistis being a hermaphrodite, they held a huge sexual appetite and the gods were unable to handle it. They felt that this being could and should only be one gender or the other and for the gods, it was easier to remove the male sexual organs.

When the marriage song commenced, Agdistis appeared in full glory, and all the wedding guests were instantly driven mad, causing both Attis and the king of Pessinus to castrate themselves and the bride to cut off her breasts. Agdistis then repented her deed and obtained from Zeus the promise that the body of Attis would not decompose.

Well that sounds like a fun party... Anyway Cybele had a number of followers/priests:

Because the galli castrated themselves and wore women's clothing, accessories and makeup, some modern scholars have interpreted them as transgender.[23][24] Firmicus Maternus said "they say they are not men... they want to pass as women."

Despite this, non-citizens continued to join the galli through the traditional method of self-castration and led processions through the streets of Rome, right up until the end of religious tolerance after the state adopted Christianity as the official faith. The galli are even thought to have spread across the empire, getting as far as Catterick in the north of England.

So Cybele is Anatolian like Sappho and there were statues of Cybele found around there, but I'm not aware if her cult was around at the same time.

OK I'm just going round in circles.



Evidence inconclusive but I'm sceptical that the woman who helped invent the 'female gaze (tm)' would be particularly against lesbian trans women if alive today. It's difficult to track with the terrible/confusing way time works 'before Christ' in the first place, and history is patchy, so I don't know if she was around trans people.

Casually performing necromancy to try and own the terfs.

According to Ovid's Metamorphoses, Attis transformed himself into a pine tree.[5]

#Based tbh.

[Nyctophilia]

Generally speaking I think it's best not to make accounts for the sake of trolling people on twitter or satirising them out of contempt but I have to say I genuinely don't care with Glinner at this point. (I noticed him complaining about someone doing that.) He's already in the past made a fake dating profile on a lesbian dating website to pose as a trans woman and now spends his entire time creepily posting screenshots of trans women who don't pass or who look androgynous on his profile.

One person he posted was quite androgynous and had short hair and frankly I'm sure at some point he's just going to post someone afab (genetically female) without even realising it as many butch cis lesbians have androgynous features/body language that makes people read them as male. Assuming he even bothers checking bios most likely he'll see some non-binary lesbian who is actually afab (as there are absolutely people like this,) and he'll just post them. So not only is he a giant transphobe who [redacted] and is engaging in lookism it doesn't just apply to trans women in the first place. I see them [BEEP] up all the time online when trying to guess someone's birth sex.

edit: apparently he went so far as to get locked out of his account even though it was reinstated under Elon's new rules.

He posted something really idiotic about non-binary people:

THIS! No art, no film, no music. The only trace left by this movement will be the destroyed bodies and minds of their peers, of the kids they should have been looking out for.

It's a stereotype that non-binary/genderfluid people are especially creative lol. It's certainly not always true, but it is the stereotype. Jordan Peterson won't shut up about it everytime the topic is brought up (that and dyed hair.)

https://youtu.be/tnYr12hB5kU?t=441

Non-binary people lol (this first song is particularly appropriate for him):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vLFaV0-_GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip6Suz5wHXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uovntV3ZMDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIWyzETibLE[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtOn3UOcxqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLdVZ9rR448

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ZUhRYe28M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvvRNPOJPH0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLnVLo6uxqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCBrIOV1pk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiSZGR4ZByo

Genesis P-Orridge from Throbbing Gristle. (The only actually scary music. And as a band they invented industrial music lol. That's a huge legacy actually.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZAIrbonUcA

I'm not even finished. (I'm not posting Demi Lovato or Sam Smith specifically either because I've never really ended up listening to their music.)