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    A trans activist posted a screenshot of an email she got from some white nationalist who was apparently running for office in the US (and he disturbingly works as a nurse assistant with special needs kids.) Arguing the police aren't fascists but most white people hate lesbians, gay men (he used a slur instead of gay men,) and trans people (slur again.) Curious that he didn't use a slur for lesbians (assuming he can't stop himself watching [redacted]) Also seems to hate Jewish people just a classic Nazi really. Calling everyone degenerates. And he says he's going to deport people and strip them off citizenship when 'the white nationalists get into power.' To quote: 'Nobody likes you, but the average person doesn't know what to do with you that's why our numbers are growing.'

    Oh well, it's a good job we're not playing 'what if I got into power' because I know all your greatest fears and I like to play with my food (hegemonic masculinity.) It will be so much worse than V for Vendetta.



    Meanwhile in the UK, not to be outdone, we have terfs quoting Mein Kampf in public protest. Wow. 10/10 rhetoric.

    https://twitter.com/NorthumbriaIWW

    https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/...-trans-speech/

    The hypnosis practitioner of 30 years.
    Sus.

    Not to be outdone yet again.

    Suella Braverman: hold my beer 'the invasions on our' [BEEP] off.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64288757

    UK government to block Scottish gender bill
    Independence it is then
    Right?

    Apparently this is the first time in history the UK government has done this? From what I'm reading. Goes to show the contempt they have for trans people. [BEEP] the UK government and [BEEP] the tories!



    So many questions get asked
    So many times when I don’t have the energy I’d like to correct and react
    What if I’m not a part of the see and be seen?
    Neither nor, both and me, in between, in between




    ^ this is actually such a good song but I'm still pissed.





    You want to celebrate a gay man on your cable TV
    While trans lesbians of color dig in garbage just to eat


    There's no protection that this nation-state can offer to me
    Just olive branches to the cis white gay bourgeoisie




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDSXB2kKOXI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A78Nw2yDNc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=643TkWsSkwY
    The impulse is pure
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    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
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    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    If it was ever in any doubt that Graham Linehan's primary motivation is just bigotry it's that for whatever reason he's just switched to complaining about [BEEP] and bisexual people (especially women,) as much as trans people.



    He'd probably even go after homosexuals to defend women if that wasn't just slightly too taboo/protected by his 50+ year old centrist peers. Like if he tried that J.K.Rowling would just come by and then Sheldon would eat her. And that's just not the energy they're going for.

    The spicy straights want to keep using their favourite slur.
    He has like 500k followers and is a famous tv writer but someone femme with they/them in their bio is using the word [BEEP] and so everything must shut down lol. It's amazing. It wasn't very controversial:

    You don't like [BEEP]? I won't call you Queer. But leave the rest of us out of your sh^tty letters to The Guardian, cause we're all quite happy being Queer.
    I also think this entire group (not just glinner,) think their loudest critics are trans women all the time (they always comment this,) but the people who run the GC biphobia account are actually two cis women lol.

    Graham talks about "spicy straights" the way we all know he wants to talk about every LGBT+ person. He's found another "acceptable" outlet for his raging hatred alongside the transphobia and misogyny and it's a total bonus when they overlap.
    Yeah at some point he realised that actually no, most trans people aren't lesbians (and gay, but they really love to bang on about how trans men are all lesbians,) but are bisexual to varying degrees. Lol....

    There is a set of girls with a similar aesthetic who claim bi sexual and They Thems...it's very interesting they all choose that look ...bunch of sorts
    My sexuality is actually [BEEP] you bitch. With something hard and sandpapery:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thpeEfBS2G8

    That line where she slowly turns her head makes the whole song lol.

    Also coincidentally that video has multiple famous bisexual women in lol. (Margaret Cho, Amanda Palmer.)

    everyday casual biphobia - interesting that he only swipes at bisexual women (infantilising them as girls). Does he thinks bisexual men don't exist or that they are genuine but bisexual women aren't? Perhaps
    He does seem to go after bisexual men occasionally from what I've seen, but it's most women or afab non-binary people for a multitude of reasons.

    Glinner is annoyed because he knows bisexual women are more attracted to trans women than him and he's never going to get that threesome or have sex with Jameela Jamil (yes he went after her too a while ago lol.) Why else would he sign up to a female dating site pretending to be transfemme?There was an attempt. Keep trying though I believe in all of you.

    Hmm, yes. Unless of course they mean "straight girls who say they're bisexual to seem interesting." I'd say removing that category would yield significant results and perhaps bring Norwich more in line with the average.
    ?Rochford in Essex was the straightest town in England and Wales. Brighton and Hove had the highest non-heterosexual population. Norwich is the bisexual capital of England and Wales.?
    Or maybe there's just not much else to do in Norwich?
    Quote glinner
    As a former Norwichian myself I am outraged
    😏 Oh but you actually are lol.

    Short answer: LGBTQ+ / [BEEP] despises male & female homosexuality for what it is & what we are.

    Drag as performance art signifies the most sinister undertones of male & female erasure in favor of a new socio-sexual order which abhors the role-modeling of homosexual excellence.
    Drag culture is part of homosexual culture in the West but something equivalent involving gender non-conformity has appeared in most cultures throughout time/history and is ironically older than 'egalitarian homosexuality.' Not that egalitarian homosexuality is bad but the attempt to re-write history is amusing.

    It's basically the sad & sorry delusions of a squalid drag queen circa 1972 who imagines that a str8-acting gay might be conned into doing the poor thing.

    The 2023 version of course is just one more try - this time dripping in the malice & vengeful motives of desperation. 😀
    See this is really gross. And yeah I do care more about eg Quentin Crisp and his struggles when he was alive then your weird hegemonic masculinity thing where you complain about drag queens being too weird and not 'homosexual excellence.'

    https://youtu.be/wTRntQUhipc?t=373

    You must understand that everything I say I'm speaking first of all for myself and then for a group. I am a minority within a minority. I'm an effeminate homosexual and for people like me the dream, the hope, the ambition is to win and to keep the love of a real man. And of course the essence of a real man is that he does not fall in love with people of his own sex. Therefor it's insoluble. It's unanswerable.
    Crisp wrote, "Having labeled myself homosexual and having been labeled as such by the wider world, I have effectively lived a 'gay' life for most of my years. Consequently, I can relate to gay men because I have more or less been one for so long in spite of my actual fate being that of a woman trapped in a man's body. I refer to myself as homosexual without thinking because of how I have lived my life. If you are reading this and are gay, think of me as one of your own even though you now know the truth. If it's confusing for you, think how confusing it has been for me these past ninety years."[6]
    More respectability politics:

    They don't represent me & they don't inspire kids.

    Can we put the drag queens away & get some LGB Drs, architects, lawyers,
    scientists, sports ppl, entrepreneurs ect in?

    Or just some ordinary LGB ppl?
    She's a lesbian I think so first of all why would they represent her lol? One type of person can't represent everyone and isn't supposed to. Drag queens and effeminate men attract outrage which gets more attention and people respond to that by trying harder to integrate the group being the most demonised. Listen to Light Asylum or Skunk Anansie instead. (She's British too of course lol. Most of this twitter circle is.)

    'I was Black, female, gay, and had a shaved head' androgynous, not super femme. I wasn't butch or a lipstick lesbian during a time when you were pressured to pick one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcaUer4fuU8

    I mean for some lesbians like King Princess it do be like that lol, but tbf she's also non-binary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYyjiP4O00Y

    '[It's] this feminized version of myself,' says the 20-year-old, who performs under the name King Princess. 'And I love that, because that's something I was terrified of until, maybe, last year.'
    Straus is 'emotionally lesbian,' she says, but 'culturally' a gay man: 'Not really a woman, I've never been a woman. I'm a drag queen.
    'I'm a huge supporter and fan of drag,' she said. 'When I do makeup, it's performative. I don't really wear makeup, but I use it as a tool to talk about gender and sexuality.'
    just like me fr. I'm mostly interested in it's performative qualities but never wear it.

    And the gay guy who dislikes bisexuals and trans people, and evidently drag queens too - shock horror - retweeted that with the 'homosexual excellence' tweet.

    Everyone knows Pete Buttigieg and Peter Thiel exist, but they don't inspire the same degree of incoherent bigotry. The latter was outed which isn't good but there's a reason he had to be outed. Does nobody understand the secondary point of American Psycho? (Aside from being an excellent comedy lol, and the major economic/yuppie culture thing.)



    I still can't get over how the eventual music video for this song that was released featured a genderfluid drag queen when it became the 'American Psycho song' lol.

    I don't think it's a virtue to blend in. And you're like 'well this amount of expression is fine, but no further.' Just contributes to this incredibly toxic environment. You get the walking disaster of Milo Yiannopoulos 'gays should go back into the closet because they're more intelligent and there were all these masc Roman gay emperors etc.' (before he came out as ex-gay,) then: "Jack Donovan has been described as gay, though he does not use the label for himself and has criticized gay culture as effeminate. He has described himself as an "androphile", a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men." (Not sure he knows some non-binary people use that term lol.) It's exactly like the Nazi era just repeating the same [BEEP] over and over forever.

    Damn you know this song is really great lol. I can't post the music video because of the nudity but yeah:



    Studio version.

    I can't believe they only released one album. Goth/post-punk bands always do this like 1-3 albums.
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    I won $330 at a casino on my second time going. Not too shabby.

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    I won $330 at a casino on my second time going. Not too shabby.
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    Do I subscribe to Contrapoint's patreon for anti-shipping/Germaine Greer/Camille Paglia discussion?



    Not paying $15 to vote though, just the lower tier if those topics win. Seems like her next video is going to be about the first four topics to some degree though so might just wait I dunno. Depends how interesting the informal discussion is.

    I have thoughts about True Crime but something about the topic just kind of drains/annoys me. I mean I like Skynd because their music is interesting stylistically. I also have an interest in sexology which can overlap. And it was interesting to read about The Peterborough Ditch Murderer purely because she flies in the face of the current cultural narrative of female-as-victim so perfectly and probably not by coincidence if you consider psychopaths feel it important to project dominance. I mean we have this culture where people politically signal the vulnerability and weakness of women constantly, but secretly (well not so secretly actually lol but yeah.) valorise fictional female serial killers and violent women as wish fulfilment (they're also stoic and attempt to hide their emotions other than violent/aggressive impulses.) And the more political rhetoric moves in this direction the more intense the characters in fiction become. Like they're representing people's psychological shadow.



    And Wednesday will come out with these cheesy/corny feminist lines too on the show. I'm not a fan of that on shows. Many such cases and it's always poorly done on every show lol. I've been watching this show and have mixed feelings lol.

    But yeah culturally it's all so inconsistent and 'sus.'

    However, when people are making documentaries, films etc and the sheer abundance of them it's a lot. And I remember thinking that Dahmer film had such a dramatic sensationalist cover when I saw it, then unsurprisingly later noticed the victim's families tweeting about how they were annoyed with the film and tired of their trauma being dug up repeatedly for the spectacle. It happened so long ago and you're still digging it up.

    I think it's all tied together with my awareness that the degree of voyeuristic obsession is stemming from a fear response which irritates me and kind of connects to the current insane hyperbolic wave of 'Oh no everything is pedophilia!' Moral panic noise. Alongside this constant rhetoric of female vulnerability. I kind of joked that being yelled at by a man online for trying to calm a woman down by showing her statistics on how uncommon stranger violence was statistically for women compared to men was my villain origin story hahaha.

    It does seem like the 80s though, because they also had a fixation with serial killers at the time and there was a bunch of serial killers who cropped up but the crime pattern has changed in recent years for a number of reasons to spree killings. I'm fairly sure many are motivated by the perverse voyeuristic reaction to their crime (not all, many also have sexual motivations, but some are definitely narcissistic too.)

    Anyway it's all kind of summed up with this TOOL song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_TUP2vuaDs

    Also there's always the hipster thing of it being quite mainstream now and so 'ew' don't necessarily always get that but yeah.

    Oh and speaking of Satoshi Kon I never ended up watching Paprika lol just listened to a bunch of the soundtrack years ago (probably like over a decade ago now lol,) and it's so great/interesting. (Why am I like this lmao but yeah.) Reminds me of Cjthex 'Twilight is a really good album to which the movie was a companion piece.'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APIKVLw1tT0

    Amazing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JuYIPHMF8

    Also completely unrelated I finally got around to watching Spiderman No Way Home and (trying to be vague but spoilers. edit: Actually I had to complain about the ending directly so just spoilers) didn't expect it to be so depressing lol. It's like what they did with Thor but worse. I'm not OK.



    I'm also more into group dynamics in shows etc, so you best fix that eventually Marvel. And the setup was so annoying. I remember thinking it was so dumb to the point of being annoyed even before everything else happened. Just stop casting the spell for a minute and talk.

    Also there's the element where he agreed with them before they lost their memory that he'd get to know them again, and when he decided not to do that he made the decision without their consent essentially because he felt it was in their best interests, just like at the beginning of the film lol.

    Other than that a pretty good film though. I didn't watch The Amazing Spiderman films so didn't realise it would be helpful to have done so. I did watch the original trilogy way back in the day.

    Oh and I guess I can watch this video now lol (wondering if he makes this point regarding their decision that he just chooses to ignore later lol):



    'My favourite black Spider-man is the Donald Glover version I made up in my head' haha you can't just say that everyone did. He is (or was) the obvious choice.

    edit: yeah they did make that point and expanded on it more lol regarding her character arc. It's true she became more open due to her relationship with him so it actually doesn't really make much sense for her to end up how she did at the end of the movie when those memories were erased. I'm not finished with the video but I don't think they specifically brought up the point earlier in the movie where MJ specifically asks him to involve Ned and her in decisions involving them lol because that point really was just ignored.

    Also lol 'very minor forehead injury' and it really was wasn't it. 🤣

    Yeah I was aware of their negotiations in the background but wasn't really considering that. It does go a long way to explain the awkward and unsatisfying writing decisions on that movie.
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    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    We Democrats better get ready to fight and win in 2024, because I?m not living under a white Christian nationalist regime. Can I get an amen?
    You?d rather a pagan nation that practices child sacrifice, ritual androgyny, satanic BDSM cross dressing transgender White House aids? with aids? lol allegedly
    Well that wasn't a sentence lol.

    If you lose the AIDS and child sacrifice then yes. Obviously.





    This post is also inspired by someone saying that Andrew Tate is helping women too but not feminists because he 'doesn't support their satanic propaganda' but I thought they're unfortunately rarely spreading 'Satanic propaganda'

    It's interesting how AI is always getting tripped up when creating hands. I've seen this a few times now.





    I kinda don't want AI art to ever get good at fingers?
    Yeah the mistakes kind of Humanise it a bit and give everything an interesting surreal quality.

    guys, genuine question: what in the world is this rococo basilisk? �� Sorry if it's a DUMB question but like i wanna know what It is!
    Lol they don't want to know.
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    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
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    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    I'm messing around with dream AI now but it's not great with faces most of the time. (I didn't generate the images in the previous post btw.) So cool though. Just spent hours generating different stuff lol. Kind of addictive.





























    ^ I censored this even though it just had barbie doll anatomy lol.











    I like what it did with her hand here:



    generating stuff based on gothic sci-fi dragon glamrock armour (or some combination of that) created some cool stuff too:













    I kind of like it when it messes certain things up though in a way that's vaguely creepy and surreal like eyes etc because it's like the 'AI's personality' comes through.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    This exchange between a butch lesbian rad fem and a few other terfs really amused me because a lot of terfs really don't get butch lesbians/GNC women so they keep doing stuff like this and not getting that it's the wrong thing to say. Their complete incompetence and refusal to understand how to communicate with GNC women is amazing. (I see them do it all the time, often out of a fear of encouraging male identity, and cringe eternally because if anything this will make them dysphoric.) So for context they were all commenting on this tiktok screenshot someone posted which had a title like 'things I dislike about being a strongly masculine lesbian' and then the comments had a lot of trans guys saying they related or other people suggesting they might be trans.

    She is not even vaguely masculine. She is a pretty girl.

    Even if she was masculine, she is not a trans man. ��

    I can't believe how square, retrograde, uptight and conformist these gender ideologues are about how people can express themselves. Dress and look how you want.
    She is masculine and there's nothing wrong with being a masculine woman. If someone said this about me I'd throw up tbh.
    There's nothing at all wrong with being a masculine woman.
    This does not mean she is a man.
    But for what it's worth I think this particular person is quite feminine and delicate looking, which is also fine.
    People can look however they want.
    She doesnt think she's a man, and delicate looking? Never open your mouth again.
    In that picture, she doesn't look at all masculine imo
    As if you have any place to talk about what is and isn't masculine lol, either ur straight up blind or lying, and for what? Just to have the satisfaction of emasculating a butch lesbian? lol
    I know what looks masculine, I'm attracted to men !
    I used to work with a butch lesbian, so I know what one of them looks like. She never claimed to be a man either. She was quite happy being a woman and female
    In what way is she "strongly masculine"??
    Does she seriously think she looks 'strongly masculine' in that photo?

    Things are worse than I thought.
    And I dont even see anything masculine about this person; much less "strongly masculine"
    That?s a femine looking girl, just with short hair. ��*♂️
    Girliest looking masc lesbain I've ever seen. Shit, in my gym clothes I look more masc than her. And then people are telling her she's trans wtf? This is a problem.
    I wouldn't even call her masculine. Why, bc her hair is short? These cultists are regressive homophobes.
    She called herself masculine lol.

    I have to be honest....I don't think she looks very masculine.

    But hey....what do I know. We live in a world of metrosexual men.
    Tony here is trying.

    I don't recognise anything here as 'strongly masculine'. She has a beautiful soft face, fluffy hair and a big jumper. I see no masculine trait. Is she trying to show a trachea as an Adam's apple? What an odd angle to take a photo.
    They're all doubling down and don't get it lol.



    It's mostly women doing it too. But actually I suppose that's not weird because they just project. Everything you think you're supposed to say to women to make them feel better is completely useless here. Just throw out your rulebook entirely.



    Particularly with young butch/androgynous women.

    You really think this comment would prevent this girl transitioning? If anything it puts fuel to the fire.
    Thank [BEEP] finally there's a(nother) brain in the bunch lol. They retweeted the other lesbian who also said this lol:

    Weirdo GC's and Conservatives in the comments saying "she's not masculine at all, she's so pretty" holy [BEEP] if people said that [BEEP] about me I'd leave the Internet forever.
    Also they're all commenting on a screenshot of a tiktok clip with the comments and I don't know if some of them went over to tiktok to watch the tiktok. I didn't but a bunch of them are also writing 'reassuring' things about her appearance and saying she's attractive when that wasn't mentioned at least in the title... OK someone actually posted the tiktok video on twitter and at one point she says 'my feminine facial features especially my lashes.' and 'my voice is so feminine and high pitched I hate it' in the list of things that bother her. And they're all here lol. 'But you're so feminine' good luck with that approach. Like the 70k comments you see everywhere. 'I was a tomboy as a child and then I grew up to be a feminine woman. Good job I wasn't tRaNsEd.'
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    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    So, I had a date today - second date actually, we had lunch. He was probably the nicest and cutest guy I've met so far doing this dating thing since my breakup two years ago.

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    I'm glad Julie took a moment away from talking about how all men should be locked up in camps and straight women should have sex with lesbians for political reasons to write this. Lol.



    I'd guess that would make her '[BEEP] Hitler.' (You know while we're being dramatic.) Kind of fits with the terf protestor here who decided to quote Hitler/Mein Kampf of all people too lol.
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    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    "You're not drafting in the first round anymore." -Bill Burr on dating in our 30s. I can't stop laughing at this quote the longer I'm doing online dating as a 30yo myself. Jesus, Burr is too on point with his observations.

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    I spoke to a guy online yesterday, and our convo is still giving me anxiety. Like we all got problems but this dude rattled off right away how he lost his life savings in a bad investment, he just quit his job and looking to leave his profession, has never moved out from his parents' house at the age of 37, and his father is starting chemo next month. Then said he's looking for a partner to tackle life's challenges with and asked if I am open to having kids.

    None of these life events are unusual separately or even together, nor asking such questions. But there is a time and place to disclose, and I feel like this dude is in midst of a mental breakdown.

    He quickly surmised that I wasn't interested anymore and asked if I'd still like to be friends. Helllllllll no. UNMATCH.

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    My friend confessed to me and it's ruined our relationship. It wasn't the kind of relationship where we talk about feelings anyway.

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    I think this must be the most idiosyncratic/unique political twitter account I've come across. Assuming they're not trolling or a bot of course. Almost everyone you come across on twitter has very rigid predictable sets of beliefs about everything. I'd say 99% of people. Which all else aside is very boring so I'm intrigued by outliers, but they're hard to find. This person isn't unique though so I've come across her views before, it's just unusual in the West.

    70% of their retweets are pro-trans stuff and the rest is just talking about their conservatism lol.

    Woman who codes, over 50. Conservative Party Member. Sons need fathers and Conservatives need gender to explain that. GCs are not Conservatives. She/her.
    The most idiosyncratic people I stumble across online politically speaking are consistently programmers. She's also from Scotland which might be related. Disagree that GC's aren't conservatives lol given their ideological roots in trad con/Catholicism.

    Gender is a social institution and thus should be defended by Conservatives.

    Gender is that which allows little boys to understand that one day they will grow up to look something like their father; and girls their mother. Thus gender is a good thing.
    I see politics in terms of individuals and institutions. This feminist sees it as a class war between male and female.

    Class war is the hallmark of a Marxist. She has swapped in men for bourgeoisie and women for proletariat.
    So far so normal right? Then...

    Quote someone else responding to her
    I'm twitter friends with conservative women who are as adamantly opposed to transideology as I am.
    Stop lying.

    Why do you want men with an incongruence between their physical bodies and internal sense of self included in women's sex class?
    FFS, Conservatives do not buy into the concept of class; be it socio-economic class with bourgeoisie vs proletariat or biological class as per radical feminism with men vs women.

    Conservatives think in terms of social institutions like the Monarchy, Marriage, the Rule of Law.
    I think Caroline you are some sort of TERF and not a Conservative. You are probs a Marxist radfem who is being an entryist so you can wage your culture war inside our ranks. You are a fake Conservative. A real Tory would value tax cuts over this inverted pyramid of piffle.
    But it's not just that she got annoyed with the constant distraction and decided to devote more time to it. She's very obviously spent a lot of time thinking and reading/tweeting about sexology:

    [redacted paper titled Effeminate Gay Bottoms in the West: Narratives of Pussyboys and Boiwives on Tumblr]

    "the media insistence in the US, UK, and elsewhere, that gay male effeminacy be decoupled from an emphasis on sexual receptivity and/or sexual submissiveness is not only frustrated by contrary evidence but also ignorant of the fact that many gay sex role bottoms in Europe and North America are in fact typically more gender nonconforming as both children and adults than tops. While this can cause considerable anxiety in LGBTQ media in the West, in other parts of the world the connection between effeminacy and sexual receptivity among a subsection of male androphiles is less likely to be controversial."
    (I haven't read all of this this paper but I'm wondering if it ignores that part of the reason that these things are decoupled is because of the straight guys who want to be topped by a trans woman and will allow sufficiently effeminate gay men too. Oh we're ignoring the elephant in the room OK. Actually I often thought that group would be better off seeking out trans masc and non-binary people since a bunch of people who are quite feminine and haven't medically transitioned do prefer to top at a higher rate than most women cis or trans or cis gay men. That paper also seems to argue that these things are often congruent in cis gay men so the demand for decoupling them is not necessarily productive but I find it very annoying that it's assumed that I'm a bottom just because I'm genetically female and I don't find these things to be so congruent with feminine afab trans people anecdotally so we should swap norms lol.)

    She also has some tweets about AGP etc too, but I'm not going to go into that because too many thoughts lol and I disagree with her takes on it (they're not the usual takes obviously, but I still disagree with her theory.) She seems to think AGP people are actually just bisexual and she has a heteronormative lens so assumes that this group would be more androphilic 'en femme' but that doesn't track in every case. I mean I've actually had many AGP sex dreams myself where I'm completely alone since the focus is you know, on the feminine/female clothing. And I have no preference in regards to AAP stuff (not that she brought up AAP as nobody ever does, and most of her tweets are about trans women and cis gay men as is the norm.) I guess I am going into it a bit lol.

    The association of femininity with straightness in women is intuitive for many people but not all. Like I watched this video (I've mentioned this in other posts but such interesting/relevant dynamics I guess lol,) where there's a genderfluid lesbian who is feminine presenting giving their butch lesbian partner a feminine makeover and the butch woman kind of puts on a homophobic straight girl persona when en femme despite her girlfriend hitting on her and obviously being into her still lol. I get that it's kind of a joke but I feel like that would be so disappointing lol. I'm projecting my feelings onto the genderfluid person though. Why would you bother giving a makeover to someone if not because it's a turn on lol? Everyone has this kink right? Right? �� No but yeah.

    It isn't camouflaging their sex; it is openly signaling their gender identity.

    Lesbians have butch and femmes. Oddly, femmes are AWOL from the gays.

    I suspect the gay male identity is shaped by male violence. Cishet thugs veto any gay male gender non-conformance by violence.
    I don't disagree with that part. Though another reason for the difference is that butch and femme lesbians often date each other and it was historically a way to talk about a certain relationship dynamic. Even though some feminine lesbians criticise butch women and/or aren't attracted to them that relationship dynamic is still fairly common. Masculine gay men don't date feminine men as often.

    I've often thought Elon's face to be quite femininely structured. This is proof.

    @elonmusk
    , you ought to be able to bag a rich husband looking this good.

    [retweeted image of feminised Elon Musk using faceapp]
    She's one shitpost about Grimes turning him into a catgirl and faceapp upload of The Riddler or Loki away from being a conservative AI variant of myself. music track (mostly) unrelated I just rediscovered it recently. Well a few years too late for that too.

    Also what that isn't proof faceapp fucks with people's faces a lot lol (well sometimes it doesn't have to do much but othertimes they look like essentially different people.)

    I thought her support would extend only to the very gender conforming (in the gender they transition to,) early onset subset of trans people and not so much to people who are gender non-conforming in their transitioned to gender (feminine trans guys, masculine trans women,) non-binary people, trans lesbians etc. Via general homophobia (cause I've seen that before, not a unique model,) some stuff she said fit that:

    This is her take on [BEEP] theory:

    No it isn't is gay ideology and feminist ideology taken to its logical conclusion. Here are the fundamentals: (i) a woman is someone who has sex with a man; (ii) a man is someone who has sex with a woman. You have departed from this, the [BEEP] Theorists are a greater departure.
    A woman is someone who has sex with a man. A man is someone who has sex with a woman. HTH.
    That?s the most bizarre definition I?ve ever heard. I?m not a woman, then?
    Some lesbians are very butch, see photo. There is something of the man about the one on the right. But that's ok, they're and you're 100% human it is just you are partly man and partly female, i.e. you are intersex. I am Christian Conservative and this came to me during prayer.
    It's a similar theory on gender as the Scottish chaser (of trans women,) I've argued with before (not on twitter,) who I think lives in Thailand. But he was more into manosphere type stuff as well which she probably isn't. This model is more common outside the West but unusual here. But some stuff she's tweeted doesn't match that entirely (the other guy seemed more irritated by people not matching their appearance to their sexuality because he's an essentialist. Also noting that it's sometimes a deliberate form of rebellion/protest/performance. Yes and what?)

    Hey, I was raised a Catholic, so I have a question for you. How does God the Father and God the Son work if there are no theological genders? Also, how is God the Holy Spirit not non-binary? Is it theological sex and not theological gender? Do Gods have gametes?
    You wrote "Gender-non-conforming behaviour is something to be celebrated..." So should schoolchildren be free to switch between boys and girls uniforms day to day? They should. If you agree what have you done to bring this about? Nothing!
    Taken to it's obnoxious conclusions/end state (as the chaser guy I mentioned does,) it's as annoying as the fascist Jack Donovan: 'Donovan has been described as gay, though he does not use the label for himself and has criticized gay culture as effeminate.  He has described himself as an "androphile", a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men.  In his 2006 book Androphilia: A Manifesto, he wrote, "I am not gay because the word gay connotes so much more than same-sex desire... The word gay describes a whole cultural and political movement that promotes anti-male feminism, victim mentality, and leftist politics." He removed the book from print in 2017, and has said he has "transcended both that identity and that sexuality".

    Also tbh this model is the strawman argument people usually throw at [BEEP] theorists who don't believe in this model lol.

    She also has a tweet talking about running in the next election locally as a pro LGBT+ conservative but I dunno if she's serious lol..
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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