I probably (definitely,) need to stop psychoanalysing everything I do. Not even in an insecure/post-mortem sense most of the time more like I'm examining myself under a microscope scientifically the same way I do everything. But anyway it's interesting... Posting gifs of attractive people on tumblr and then there's this one person who I noticed before who kept posting this person and I found their tags amusing before (I don't think that's quite the emotion or there are multiple, maybe like 面白い, dunno,) and also they kind of helped my own fantasising.
#I wanna braid his hair and hold his little waistLike 'oh yeah that's a cute idea' (plus I already had a weird thing about the idea of chair sex from years ago lol...)#I wanna hold him in my lap and kiss him
So I just noticed they stumbled on the gifs I posted and reblogged them with a bunch of tags.
I've thought about this sort of thing before. It is quite interesting. Like where does the urge to talk about/share stuff about attractive people come from? And also this 2 steps removed sexual thing. But it's also platonic like just enjoying that your post got a reaction (and the good thing about tumblr is you can kind of read responses without it feeling like a direct interaction because of the way tags work when you're reblogging stuff.)#oh my god#beautiful princess baby angel#I want to cuddle him and give him forehead kisses
I think the motivation to share stuff isn't just that though for me personally. It's also just that I like sharing and talking about anything I'm really interested in (even with myself in pseudo-journal form,) and that includes people I find attractive lol.
Uh it's definitely something I could see being an issue irl. I've annoyed people by repeatedly talking about stuff/people before in the past. (I'm a bit more suppressed irl though than online. Plus there's the social anxiety.) Also the girl I mentioned in another post who I became obsessed with before when I was 13 who I didn't talk to (she talked to my brother at one point. He knew lots of people and was infamous in school as being weird or something? I don't think this bothered him though and he actively played into this image. But to the point I was often known as his sibling and strangers would express sympathy for me that we were related which was always really fucking weird to me lol as we'd always been close it's like someone I knew at uni who introduced himself to me by saying 'you seem like the most normal person here' he didn't keep that opinion later 😂 but I digress so yeah can't remember how they knew each other, and also she knew someone else I hung out with from some music thing so was talking to her while we were in the library.) I ended up talking about her on one occasion at home. Can't really remember what I said now or anything, but I remember my dad found it weird.
Perhaps a more interesting interaction actually happened on twitter lol. I've posted some images of femme Loki before, and then one of my mutuals responded a few times
she's just like me fr 😍But here's a more explicit example of this since what I'm talking about is fairly mild/pg-13/cutesy stuff and I don't often connect with people closely unlike below:i love when you post genderbent Loki cause i kinda look like that and get gender euphoria 😂
There was this fanfic I was reading a while ago (18+) where the author was talking to someone in their comment section who reads their work. I can't remember now exactly what was said but I think they said something like they thought of this person while writing the fic and they hoped they'd enjoy it. It's interesting cause you're sort of creating stuff that turns other people on. Sometimes like in this case purposefully. Not for money either lol because it's all free. I guess that's why academics have kind of viewed a lot of online fandom porn stuff through a pseudo-queer lens. (I mean the person who reblogged the stuff I posted on tumblr uses they/them pronouns as well lol actually...)
Oh and then there's the even more obvious thing where people just role play as characters or other people they find attractive with each other online. I never really got into that but I remember people posting requests etc back on livejournal in the day.
This paper I think maybe touches on the surreal virtualised aspect of this sort of thing but is specifically talking about fujoshi stuff (so m/m romance and I think Japanese fandoms too,) but I think this applies to most fandom stuff as well where there's a community/collaborative thing. I feel like there was something else I was reading that went into this that wasn't this too but I dunno:
Fujoshi: Fantasy Play and Transgressive Intimacy among "Rotten Girls" in Contemporary Japan. Author: Patrick W. Galbraith
Fans produce works not only for personal pleasure but also to share them, facilitate interaction, and bridge a shared imaginary.😀 lol yes been there.One of the most recognizable features of the pursuit of moe is the transformation of objects into objects of desire. Otaku turn animals, machines, and even men of historical significance into beautiful young girls to trigger moe (Galbraith 2009). Similarly, fujoshi can rearticulate anything into a beautiful boy who can then be placed with other beautiful boys in yaoi relationships. Moe characters can be based on a written description or drawn image, a physical person, or even anthropomorphized animals, plants, and objects.
Yeah that's reminding me of this lol (as you go down the list you get more anthropomorphisations of objects and the penguins etc):In a more specific example from the field, Hachi, Megumi, and Tomo were walking home from a comic market. Inspired by the doujinshi they had seen, they started debating whether or not a submissive bottom acting in a self-destructive way out of love for a top might be moe. Tomo was at first skeptical. Hachi impulsively decided to use her surroundings as an illustration of the coupling: "Is this road moe? See, it's virgin, freshly paved, but is doing its best with the cars on top. What if he was trying so hard to please his lover?" Megumi chimed in, The road is a loser submissive in love with one particular car, the top, who is an insensitive pleasure seeker. In order to win his love, the road agreed to be his sex slave and is now being broken in by the top?s clients." Tomo seemed convinced---by the creativity if not the concept---and joined Megumi and Hachi in laughter and a chorus of "moe, moe, moe." The fantasy effectively reenchanted their world, adding a layer of potential to the mundane (the very ground under their feet!) and making the familiar other and exciting.
Fujoshi are devoted to exposing and exploring transgressive intimacy in their fiction and art, and among themselves. Some of my informants, even those with boyfriends, described themselves as lesbians.9 My informants generally imposed temporal and spatial limits on their contact--they often "do not want to know" one another, as one informant frankly told me, outside of their shared experiences as fujoshi, which tends to focus discussions and interactions on yaoi.
footnote: While there certainly are lesbian fujoshi, and while not wanting to deny my informants their sexual agency, I should point out that it seemed to me that they were using the term "lesbian" not to indicate a sexual orientation but rather to mean "deeply intimate with members of the same sex." This sort of intimacy, or special friendship, at girls' schools is not historically unique (Pflugfelder 2005).Lol imagine fitting Baudrillard, 'late stage capitalism' and French philosophy into this.Intimacy among fujoshi is characterized by playful surface interaction. At the most basic level, when the interaction occurs online, it is a construct between the user physically sitting in front of the computer and the other imagined beyond the screen (a flat viewing surface mediating interactions with a fujoshi partner who is not deeply engaged, talking about supposedly "meaningless" fantasy). Philosopher Azuma Hiroki uses the metaphor of the screen to describe the nature of late-stage capitalism as "hyperflatness" (Azuma 2009, 102). Drawing on Jean-Francois Lyotard and Jean Baudrillard, Azuma theorizes that the grand narrative has broken down, leaving only fragmentary moments of sensual pleasure obsessively reproduced in a flat world without meaning, since meaning was generated by the grand narrative. This goes a long way toward explaining fan fiction and art, but it fails to explain the sociality and intimacy of sharing these moments of pleasure or sensual intensity
This other paper goes more into Western stuff and Tumblr a bit (Tumblr does make collaboration easier that's how you get weird memes like that fake Scorsese Mafia movie):
https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/vi...rhonors_theses
Interacting on Tumblr is certainly a primary mode of discourse in fandom. When users reblog a Tumblr post, they can add to the original post, and their addition appears beneath it. This format often lends itself to communal writing and brainstorming.Because Tumblr acts as a space in which writers and readers bounce ideas off of each other, brainstorm headcanons, and build off of each other?s short fictions, certain ideas will originate in Tumblr discussion that become very influential in fic. On AO3 a popular tag is "based on a Tumblr post." Writers may be more specific by providing a link to the specific post that they are referencing, or they may choose to not to.This is unrelated but interesting:Fanfiction is a space in which women create a complex online world with other women: discussing fan theories and interpretations, creating art and fiction for one another as gifts or
based on one another's prompts, commenting on work with praise and encouragement, and forming friendships by connecting on one another's blogs. And yet for many women this is a secret life. Characteristic of Rich's lesbian continuum is that women live a "double-life:" on one hand performing a prescribed role of womanhood within relationships with men and socially in a larger male-dominated society, and on the other developing a rich inner life of connection with other women (659). Fanfiction is largely denigrated as one of the most shameful fannish efforts. For this reason, many women are not eager to share in their everyday lives that they read or write fanfiction. What follows is a creation of an open secret among women in an online space.
So in that sense I guess it really does/can function as cultural detournement even among demographics you wouldn't expect to consume fanfiction etc.There is one person who regularly comments on my fic. He's a military guy in his fifties or sixties. And I was like 'Oh?okay. Interesting.' So I started easing in lesbian, bisexual, and then trans characters, thinking people who had no exposure to that are going to get to learn He wrote me this really long comment thanking me. He said one of his grandchildren's friends is trans and he's trying to understand it. Now he's trying to get the kid's parents to read it so they could understand. I thought, 'I'm helping this kid that I don't even know.' I felt so justified in everything I was doing.
Reminds me of this recent Kanye article. I know this is partly because of his personality type + mental health issues. But it is kind of sad/insane lol that all it took for him to change his mind was watching 21 Jump Street. But I see similar stuff happen with other people too..:
Kanye West has changed his tune on Jewish people just a few months removed from his anti-Semitic rants across several platforms. Apparently, all it took was watching 21 Jump Street starring Jonah Hill.
"Watching Jonah Hill in 21 Jump street made me like Jewish people again," the 45-year-old wrote in an Instagram caption accompanying the 2012 film's poster on Saturday (March 25). "No one should take anger against one or two individuals and transform that into hatred towards millions of innocent people."