Random Thought of the Day

[Nyctophilia]

I feel like if Mr Frond from Bob's Burgers wasn't designed purposefully to be an unlikeable egotistical character he'd be kind of cute. Mostly because he's a cat guy who spends a lot of time knitting and is... 'Easily flustered' (actually the wiki page said 'perpetually flustered' the TV tropes section for him is a lot less forgiving lol) also you know if he wasn't in a Western cartoon. Anime characters can be attractive in how they're drawn but Western cartoon characters never are (and of course that's never the point so that's fine.) Though I'm not really into anime characters these days nor watching it so. Also if I wasn't fixing my sleeping pattern again and in a weird mood etc.

Also lol:



For some reason there are a bunch of videos where people just record themselves reacting to TV shows they're watching by recording the screen with their phone or something. I like the technophobic retroism of it though. Also reinventing laugh tracks.

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Yeah I don't really watch films anymore anyway but that's not tempting me lol.

"I like to take breaks from the culture war by watching films about culture war."

No. No I don't. That's why when I play Runescape I avoid looking at the chat in that one area where people are always talking about politics because apparently people do that constantly in games now too.

[Heelsbythebridge]

The big 4 disappeared

[Heelsbythebridge]

I've felt enough devastation and misery and heartbreak for an entire lifetime and the next 2 generations already. Like, my grandchildren should be absolved of all this for all I've had to take in my own life by the age of 30

[Nyctophilia]

Again I do like Contrapoints or at least enjoy her content, but this irks me a lot (from anyone to be clear. I went into a fairly insane rant I deleted yesterday about how women who join cults etc aren't naive and brainwashed but antisocial and it gives them the opportunity often to carry weapons, kill people etc. Many cults and extremist groups function like mafias etc. So like the women who joined The Manson Family or isis and the Al-Khansaa Brigade where the rules are actually pretty different from most Islamic women. Or the women who became pirates centuries ago or snuck into the Navy.) In her seemingly desperate attempt to distance herself from men she regularly stereotypes women.

Important context before I quote the part that irritated me:

Ok here's my sober defense of my anti-Tar take. Never have I wanted to like a movie more. Loved the trailer! Cate Blanchett playing a problematic lesbian in a drama about classical music? All my boxes checked. Step on me etc. But the movie, well?

"We don't call women astronauts 'astronettes.'" She identifies as a patriarch, ok got it. She waves away gender as irrelevant, as the movie largely will (questionably I think. How many real female conductors lead major US symphonies? How many of them are abusers?) [...]

I don't like that Lydia Tar acts like a man. Gay women are usually anxious about being seen as predatory. Even actual lesbian abusers usually have a sense of needing to hide in the shadows. Lydia feels like a straight man to me, not a gay woman. Impossible to relate to.

Like she's so brazen. Flirting with a fan in front of her own assistant, with this relaxed sense of entitlement. Compare Tar to Judi Dench in Notes on a Scandal, who's desperate, ashamed, secretive--real and compelling, though also a predator.

This is me online all the time lol but with women:



'Women can be prime minister why can't they be a sexual predator? Women can be sexual predators. Women can be sexual predators. Women can be-' lol. (edit: or well I guess her argument is more with her personality alongside the predator aspect so 'disagreeable/masculine and predators')

Someone else lol:

THAT'S THE WHOLE PREMISE, "WHAT IF A COOL [BEEP] WAS A SEXUAL PREDATOR???"

Sorry I hate this movie

Someone brought up Camille Paglia and yeah she'd hate this too but then I'm non-binary, Camille Paglia identifies as trans... But we both still ID as women I think. Although I think she said she never once saw herself as a woman lol but I dunno it seems case specific. (Also everyone conveniently forgets Camille Paglia is trans.)

Oh and the other side which equally annoys me is her misandry. As someone else pointed out a lot of straight men are also very anxious about being seen as predatory but then someone pointed out 'not the straight guys who are actually predators' OK well yes even then some of them, if they're sensible and want to keep things down low which in this day and age they certainly would it's harder to get away with things since #metoo but also the personality type of being very disagreeable (think that's it really,) certainly isn't unique to men. Just look at Katie Hopkins.

This has consistently annoyed me about her content though and comments she makes since she came out as a trans woman lol. Way back when she made the Beauty video where she also ironically says 'perhaps lesbians are just straight up chillin' (but back then she was in denial about being a lesbian.) It is true though lesbian women care less about their physical appearance than other women and gay men. (There's research that shows that.) They care more than straight men although these days.. I dunno. That gap is certainly decreasing.

I understand why she made that video but some parts irritated me lol.

But even among women caring about beauty is often frowned upon. I feel like an alien species when I hang out with women in academia and I know a few because I once got half a PhD before dropping out to become a - what do you call someone who makes videos? A camgirl

Most female grad students and professors I know don't wear make up. To them the idea of earnestly putting on press on nails or eyelashes is inconceivable. Like maybe on Halloween.

So? (I'm not an academic lol. I'm not smart enough to monetise my neuroticism, but this is very me right down the only time I've worn makeup as an adult being Halloween once lol.)

Now part of that is that women in male-dominated fields sometimes feel like they have to present more masculine to be taken seriously because of this prejudice that beautified femininity equals frivolous but another part is clearly some kind of not like the other girls weird flex which OK, fine, whatever I'm not gonna judge another woman for the way she copes with a society that pressures women to be beautiful while simultaneously belittling them for caring about it.

Is femininity looked down on? Yes. But I'm tired of being gaslight by everyone about my preferences 'you just want to do x because society' from both sides lol. 'You're non-binary because society hates women' 'You don't wear makeup because society hates femininity' That's never been my motivation for not wearing makeup. Stop stripping genetic female people of their agency. God feminism can be annoying as fuck. And although most people don't care that I don't wear makeup as a teenager I did have a group of girls try to coerce me into wearing makeup (which I've talked about too many times lol, the makeover scene from every teen movie up until the mid 2000s but irl) 'you could be prettier than her' yes, but I don't care because I'm not part of that competition. To me makeup is something you wear when you have a masculine bone structure to be transgressive or as part of a stage performance. I find it attractive on other people. (edit: those are the contexts where I'd wear it I mean. And Halloween costumes I guess or if I was cosplaying as someone. I'm not going to use it to accentuate femininity or be more conventionally attractive in a feminine way because I have no interest in that and my features are feminine + neotenic and I always wanted to look more androgynous not less lol. I'm limited in ways to express that because I refuse to cut my hair short because I like having long hair.)

And I also think some terfs get annoyed with trans women for this reason. Their hatred/bigotry isn't justified though and it's honestly not unique to trans women people will do this with people who they aren't attracted to and who don't resemble them. 'Why do you think you're better than me? Society prefers you. You're being brainwashed to be this way by society. Why aren't you similar to me? You're making me feel alienated because I'm not like you.'

Also I hate the 'not like the other girls'/nlog thing I mostly see it used to criticise androgynous and alternative women and it's also used against trans men and non-binary people. I went onto the subreddit before and half the posts were just complaining about women posting stuff they liked that happened to be non-conforming in some way and they can [BEEP] off. Where we're at lol:

You can be a "tomboy" without being the "not like other girls" stereotype

Most of the time, the girls I see being called nlogs and pick-me girls are either teenagers that are still figuring themselves out, gender non-conforming women, and autistic women. Those in the latter two groups are often accused of trying to be "not like the other girls" for something as simple as disliking makeup, talking about their masculine-coded hobbies, talking about how isolated they feel when trying to conform to female gender roles, or expressing confusion about navigating relationships with other women. Idk, it just seems kind of unfair to refer to these people as nlogs and pick-mes.

Honestly I think movies and media that shows a tomboy girl who hates femeninity or other women are the main reason this stereotype exists.

Anyway ladies, what do you think? Have you had any experience with a nlog or pick-me that was older than 19-20 and did not fall into the other two categories? Do you think they are common or just outliers?

Like I didn't watch Matilda when I was growing up (Spoiler: Spoiler: which is basically what that plotline is about there's a feminine woman who invented cottage core being abused by her evil butch aunt who possibly killed her dad and likes to rant about women being married and things like that. There's a lot of Freudian [BEEP] to unpack here lol. and Matilda has to save her and then she adopts Matilda to save her from her neglectful family. In saying that though the feminine character is described as bookish as she's a school teacher and she's very traditionally feminine and the film is more critical of Matilda's mum who is implied to be shallow and obsessed with money and looks. Most of the characters are stereotypes.) I wanted to be Matilda lol (not the evil butch aunt.) I mean tbf who doesn't want to be super genius and have magical powers though was kind of easy lol.

Edit: Also I love TV Tropes it kind of works outside of entertainment lol:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...LikeOtherGirls

Sometimes, this term is used verbatim as a pejorative towards gender-nonconforming women by overbearing and reactionary female authority figures, female bullies, and, in more modern works, Straw Feminists. The idea is that if a woman is not stereotypically feminine, she is "like a man" and thus, free game for ostracism and bullying from her peers until she starts acting "normal" (read: feminine). This variation of the trope can sometimes go much further and the offending parties can suggest a woman is "not like other girls" because of her race, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability - meaning they only consider women of their group to be "normal". In the case of the Straw Feminist variant, they believe that if a woman has stereotypically masculine interests or behaviours, or has more male friends than female ones, it must clearly be because she's a Category Traitor who hates her own gender and wants male approval.

There are pages for everything:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...ategoryTraitor

So Contrapoints also said this about Lydia:

I've been trapped in rooms with academics like this for hundreds of hours of my life. Yes it's fun to laugh at them, but is the movie laughing?

I think some of the people she knew were quite terfy and criticised her before she transitioned for wearing nail polish etc. So she probably actually has trauma about this.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...tube-interview

After Berklee, she became a philosophy major at Georgetown, where she started exploring her attraction to women's clothes in a more public way. "I would cross-dress in bars. It was fun, although a lot of alcohol was involved," she said, smiling wryly. "I would paint my nails and do makeup and stuff. By the time I was in grad school" at Northwestern, where she pursued a PhD in philosophy - "I was 25. I wasn't passing as a woman or anything. People still recognized that I was a man."

Wynn recalled a woman in her department who was a "terf". "She told me that I needed to get psychiatric help because of the makeup and nail polish. I think she was very hostile to any feminine ornamentation, period, and viewed that as the dressings of male oppression forced upon women."

But it still annoys me.

Wynn's ability to see the other person's side of things often extends to those who have hurt her as well. "I always sympathize with these people, she said. The woman at Northwestern 'is not a happy person', she said. 'I feel bad for her I think there's a lack of understanding about male femininity and what that means in our culture and how it's treated. Men wearing makeup is not appropriating female culture. There's no such thing as female culture. Gender is within a culture, and gender mandates categories of existence, I guess, and it forces you into one based on the sex assigned to you at birth."

I don't think she gets it though. Because she ultimately seems to think that GNC women don't wear makeup etc for social benefits or to feel superior to other women lol, without considering alternative motivations.

Lol:

No age can ever have been as stridently sex-conscious as our own; those innumerable books by men about women in the British Museum are a proof of it. The Suffrage campaign was no doubt to blame. It must have roused in men an extraordinary desire for self-assertion; it must have made them lay an emphasis upon their own sex and its characteristics which they would not have troubled to think about had they not been challenged. And when one is challenged, even by a few women in black bonnets, one retaliates, if one has never been challenged before, rather excessively.

Even so, the very first sentence that I would write here, I said, crossing over to the writing-table and taking up the page headed Women and Fiction, is that it is fatal for anyone who writes to think of their sex. It is fatal to be a man or woman pure and simple; one must be woman-manly or man-womanly. It is fatal for a woman to lay the least stress on any grievance; to plead even with justice any cause; in any way to speak consciously as a woman. And fatal is no figure of speech; for anything written with that conscious bias is doomed to death. It ceases to be fertilized. Brilliant and effective, powerful and masterly, as it may appear for a day or two, it must wither at nightfall; it cannot grow in the minds of others. Some collaboration has to take place in the mind between the woman and the man before the art of creation can be accomplished. Some marriage of opposites has to be consummated.

This is from an article about Cate Blanchett and some comments she made in Vanity Fair:

https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-c...air-interview/

You've heard the phrase, "never meet your heroes." If you love Cate Blanchett, like me, the more relevant phrase right now might be "never read your hero's interview in the new Vanity Fair."

"I don't think about my gender or my sexuality,"

"For me in school," she continued, 'it was David Bowie, it was Annie Lennox. There's always been that sort of gender fluidity.' Ok, great. So no hate crimes at your school or work? No stabbings? No midnight kidnappings and months held against your will at conversion therapy camps? Ok great! That's probably one reason why you "don't think" about your gender or sexuality. Lucky you! Is embracing gender fluidity while refuting the validation many people find in "labels" and language the gender and sexuality equivalent of saying "I don't see color?" No, but it's close and it's disgusting.

I think this is a somewhat unfair reading of that looking now. She's an actress and she's sad that her opportunities are being limited by rigidity and I don't disagree with that analysis. It's something a lot of older musicians and actors etc express and I sympathise with them because there's so much pressure now to only be allowed to express yourself in certain ways if you adopt certain labels etc. IAMX expressed something similar a while back.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...awards-insider

Blanchett has said she drew from various artists and musicians in creating Tar, and tells me the character is totally fictitious "a fantasy." How much did she factor in that she'd be playing a [BEEP] person who defied the odds, only to be corrupted by power? "I don't think about my gender or my sexuality," she says. "For me in school, it was David Bowie, it was Annie Lennox. There's always been that sort of gender fluidity." This echoes the 2015 video installation Manifesto, in which she adopted 13 distinctive personas while delivering pieces of famous polemical speeches, as well as her Bob Dylan in I'm Not There. But I press her on this a bit, and she admits to feeling perplexed by the very notion of having to think about stepping into an identity outside of her own: "I have to really listen very hard when people have an issue with it. I just don't understand the language they're speaking, and I need to understand it because you can't dismiss the obsession with those labels behind the obsession is something really important. But personally I've never had it."

A crucial early scene in Tar, filmed in one virtuosic take, finds Lydia in a heated argument with her student at Juilliard over separating the art from the artist, the creative value of diversity, and the changing of the canonical guards. The student in question identifies as a "BIPOC pan-gender person," which visibly rankles Lydia. She berates him until he calls her a [BEEP] and storms out. 'That's what Todd does?there are no answers to these things, but the conversation's really important, Blanchett says. She considers Carol: 'If it was made now, me not being gay would I be given public permission to play that role?' I ask if she thinks she should be. 'I don't know the answer to that,' she says.

The topic clearly weighs on Blanchett, as she understands the sensitivity around it--and the potential for saying the wrong thing. "If you and I were having a conversation [25 years ago], it would be in your publication and that was it," she says. "Now, somehow it's like these opinions get published, and Scarlett Johansson doesn't play a role that maybe she was the only person who could play it." (This likely refers to Johansson, after backlash, exiting a project in which she was to play a transgender man.) She adds, "I don't want to offend anybody. I don't want to speak for anybody else."

This song/video is just insanely relevant all the time haha (it's about Harry Styles but applies here too):



Putting on a dress that's so freaking brave of ya
OMG obsessed with that cute behaviour
Never had to stress it might lead to danger yeah
You are the saviour, you are the saviour
(He must be one of good ones)

Do the right thing, admit that you're faking it
Fucking little [BEEP] go fix your behaviour
Yes we know best so fit to the label
Fit to the label
Fit to the label
(We must be some of the good ones)


Remember this (a lot of people fetishise her as a [BEEP] woman):

Ok here's my sober defense of my anti-Tar take. Never have I wanted to like a movie more. Loved the trailer! Cate Blanchett playing a problematic lesbian in a drama about classical music? All my boxes checked. Step on me etc. But the movie, well?

'The character is too much like a straight man,' and 'she doesn't care about her identity enough and she isn't [BEEP] enough.'

People also have issues with the writing and that it was written by a straight guy obviously. 'It's a man writing a woman' etc. I haven't seen the whole film only clips, but even if the character seems exactly like a straight guy I have seen and come across women who are like that, so even if it's not common it's still possible. I've disliked female characters written by women before (Bella Swan,) so I don't think the author's gender matters. It really just depends on personal preference, and whether they're good writers.

I know people complained that Tomb Raider was a character written to both appeal to men sexually and acted like a man (I think early in development they were planning on giving the player an option to pick between a male and female character for the first game in the series but they didn't want to do two loads of cutscenes so they stuck with Lara.) Later they brought in a female writer (Rhianna Pratchett think she also wrote Mirror's Edge,) to write the prequel video games (or at least one of them, the one I played definitely Tomb Raider 2013.) Her personality and vibe was quite different and I didn't like it as much from what I remember, but I understand that they were going for 'vulnerable young woman who isn't the person she is later yet.' Because it's a prequel. So I didn't finish the game but that's not really why. I don't think the gameplay was really appealing to me at that point.

Sort of like Anakin vs Darth Vader. A lot of people didn't like that either because Darth Vader was a very different character from whiny Anakin. People often hate characters like that the same with Kylo Ren - I know a lot of people hated him my brother disliked him I think - but I didn't mind him. Also part of that dislike was that he wasn't Darth Vader and wasn't a real villain which is fair a lot of villains now are complicated anti villains with emotional dysregulation and mental illness symptoms lol. I don't remember ever liking Anakin though they've been compared. I actually was a huge fan of Qui Gon Jinn as a kid for some reason. But as an adult I related to Kylo Ren's emotional issues I guess? I dunno it's been years since I watched the films and I only watched them once. I also really like Loki so I think it's vaguely similar (I find Loki attractive too though but also relatable in some ways.) Because I'm kind of an asshole I guess and they all have vulnerable narcissistic traits which I also have to some degree I think, but also cause I watch Auralnauts and it's kind of hilarious (so that complicates things a bit I also have personal headcannons for Loki that don't necessarily reflect cannon. I've always read fanfiction so if I don't like something I re-write it in my brain either way lmfao. Semiotic democracy):



Oh my God and I just discovered this video:



There are a lot of different characters I can relate to though *corny quote about containing multitudes or whatever* or at least appreciate on some level if I don't relate to them. But no I didn't really like any of the characters in Twilight it's kind of rare for me to watch/read something and not develop a connection with any character or relate to one of them but that's what happened while reading Twilight, but the books were still entertaining enough that I read them all (or the first four anyway.)

With all that being said I still don't want to watch it because I watched that scene with the 'BIPOC pangender character' and I just find the fact that we have to have Oscar-bait movies about the culture war, and Oxford Union debates about 'wokeness' so very tedious. Like how do you even get away from social media discourse in today's society lol? It's everywhere. Even my dad brought up stuff about 'what is a woman' and trans people etc when I visited him the last two times. This is going to be an increasing massive pain because I'm closeted with him.

I don't want a film about cancel culture or whatever. I don't want to listen to Dave Chappelle rant about how he's being cancelled and how he's team terf for over an hour. 😩 It's something you neurotically schizopost about on a half dead internet forum not a comedy act.

And wtf is this?



Where was the joke?

Here you go if you must do this:



I'm just going to watch this or something:

[Nyctophilia]

guess that what makes this country so great we can all agree and disagree,

The country of the internet lol? (it is in a sense.) I'm assuming they mean America though haha but I'm not from there.

edit: So this guy was doing the kind of 'kids these days listening to this music it's bad' thing in YouTube comments and I pointed out that I actually thought this one musician was a decent vocalist though the current track wasn't a great example, then he responded saying he mostly listens to rock and metal music and finds a lot of music now lazy etc plus that quoted part, I responded again saying I'm from the UK and that I wasn't a huge fan of the track either, suggested a different song by them, then said I listen to everything but prefer rock music, then they responded with:

I'm from the UK aswell, maybe we could get together and rock out to some Nirvana, or if you bring the guns I'll bring the roses 🌹😉

He has no idea what I look like or anything about me except that I like rock music. The line is kind of clever though.

(I assume he looked at my YouTube profile though and saw that I was located in the UK there. I also have a bunch of travel videos from years ago but I'm not on camera in any of them just filming stuff.)

This is the second time something sort of like this has happened in the past year and I'm very confused. Another time on twitter I was arguing with this trans woman who felt this one person I follow was transphobic and we went back and forth a little bit and during the course of that conversation I actually mentioned an opinion I have that is reasonably controversial for the trans community that would piss a lot of people off (I mean it became relevant,) then she started following me and is now the only person who consistently likes or responds to any of my tweets (well on that account.) I mean I follow many people I disagree with I guess but probably wouldn't in that sort of situation and it's twitter which is usually very hostile.

I also don't really like it when people joke flirt with me tbh (or seriously flirt) in most cases, because I have no idea how to respond because I can't flirt. I'm very socially awkward. This is fine since I can just ignore it and it's online but very awkward irl.

[Heelsbythebridge]

I really need to diversify a bit

[Nyctophilia]

Destiny is donating 10k to Community movement builders in Atlanta just to get F.D Signifier on his stream. Content creators are insane.

Went over to his twitter page and he posted some insane parenting story that was obviously fake but wasn't sure why but people seem to think it's some reference to Andrew Tate.

When my son was 4 years old I took away his mattress and forced him to sleep on the floor every night.

If he did his chores, I closed his window.

If he got straight A's, I gave him a blanket.

If he got in a fight at school and won, I wouldn't force him to take his shower cold.

Tate is living rent free in his head. Ig he can't do anything than just rant

Honestly one of his (Tate's) kids is going to grow up to be or get in a relationship with some kind of killer. I'd say serial killer but criminal patterns change now and then. Serial killing is out of fashion now compared to spree shooting and who knows what insanity will arrive in the future but as I said he's raising his daughter like Myra Hindley so. I really feel like that's going to happen.

I guess this is what he's parodying though (it was a long twitter thread about his dad so I'm just copying some lines so you get the gist):

"Excuses don't affect the outcome.

So excuses can't affect your performance."

I was too young to understand and upset.

When we got home, I complained to Mom that Dad was yelling at me for losing.

She said he was too hard on me.

They had a heated argument as he explained she's a female and doesn't understand the burden of performance.

"IF I WAS TOO TIRED TO PERFORM, THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED ME"

He was referencing a few months before when I watched him be attacked.

My mother told me I didn't have to play chess anymore if Dad was going to upset me.

Dad took me out of the house for a week.

We stayed in a hotel away from my mother's influence.

"Your Dad's crazy" mother would say.

In fact, everyone said that.

At the time I didn't know who to believe.

But I was exhausted. I cried a few times.

He made me play anyway.

And made me sleep very little before school.

My Dad sacrificed his marriage to raise me exceptionally. My mother simply didn't get it.

And then you went on to make most of your money by exploiting women and being a hypocritical fuckboy. 10/10 parenting. And the worst thing is we live in such a morally bankrupt culture that people dismiss all of this because you're rich.

Huh...:

In this YouYube video Tate reveals that his father was a diagnosed narcissist.

Well I for one am shocked. Not like Andrew blatantly has this personality disorder as well.

Men raise [BEEP] sons because they cuck to wives.

My father lost his wife for ME.

I always used to remember this story when deep in the rounds of championship fights.

Am I gonna lose because I'm tired? Or just lose.

Lol:

The marriage ended because the dad cheated on the mother and she left he even said it in an interview, i don't know why now he's changing the whole story

Various quotes that all seem to fit together in some sense:

According to a new report published by LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall, more Brits than ever are identifying as gay, lesbian and bisexual and the figures indicate that Gen Z is especially fruity.

The groundbreaking report reveals that more Gen Z people identify as bisexual or pansexual (14 per cent), than gay (two percent) or lesbian (three per cent).

'Rapid rise' in Andrew Tate-related cases referred to Prevent by schools

"There are cases such as where a kid draws a swastika or say that they want to join Isis. The inclusion of Andrew Tate within that in small and bigger ways is quite new," said one.

Another said: "From September he's just accelerated from nowhere to become a primary issue for schools that I have been dealing with. He obviously doesn't fit within the Prevent sphere but incels do. He is parallel to them and has a crossover. When I'm in schools I find myself describing him, effectively, as toxic misogyny on steroids.

in terms of schools telling us about pupils really challenging staff, such as cases where pupils have said to female teacher: 'What do you know, you?re a woman, you can't teach me anything. Your place is in the kitchen.'"

"Tate's conversion might be a stunt, but what it has done is feed into that kind of unclear and very messy ideological aspect that is now affecting a larger cohort of pupils in schools. Not only do you now have, for example, white kids who were drawn to him before but now you now have young English Muslims too," said one of the Prevent workers.

Misogyny, spread through social media influencers such as Andrew Tate, has been making ugly appearances in classrooms in recent months, with reports of some male students vocally and publicly declaring their belief in male superiority and intimidating female teachers.

There are no neat answers. Misogyny is not designated as a hate crime. A Bill was introduced in 2021 (Brader, 2021) that could have changed this, but it did not become law.

One small charity, Diversify, based in Rotherham, which runs school workshops about inclusion, receives about 25 calls a week from primary and secondary schools across England who want help dealing with sexual harassment and "shocking misogynistic incidents". Many cite the influence of Tate, who is under house arrest in Romania for suspected human trafficking and organised crime. Tate's TikTok videos tell boys that a woman belongs to her boyfriend; girls who don't stay at home are "hoes"; and rape victims must "bear responsibility" for their attacks.

The charity's co-founder Sara Cunningham estimates that an average class of 30 children will have eight boys who admire Tate.

The numbers here are insane that's like 50% of boys then? If you assume approx. half the 30 students are boys.

Don't talk to pupils about misogynist Andrew Tate, government urges teachers in England

By all means keep going until 50% of the female population call themselves lesbians and the other 50% are just Tumblr. And Solanas' prophecy is completed. That's what you were going for right?

I was bullied almost daily for my entire school life and this is making me miss the fucking past lol.

She is frustrated that officials at the Department for Education (DfE) have been advising heads who reach out for help not to encourage discussion of Tate's views in personal, social and health education (PSHE) lessons, and are refusing to offer any training or resources.

She said: "We were in a south London primary school recently and students as young as 10 knew a lot about Tate's arrest and [allegations of] rape. One 10-year-old boy said these women consented to sex because they went back to Tate's house."

This is honestly the most horrifying thing I've read in years:

Spoiler:

A small church primary school recently called the charity in to talk to pupils after four nine-year-old boys locked a girl in a cupboard, threatened to "fuck her in the throat" and then made her watch porn video clips.

The school commissioned Diversify to run three workshops with pupils on misogyny and consent, during which a number of boys mentioned Tate and said they could not see any problem with his views. On Cunningham's advice, the school reported the sexual abuse to their local authority child safeguarding team, but they have received no response.

The assistant head of a secondary school in south-east England asked the charity to talk to her pupils after disciplining a male student for harassing a girl by sending her a barrage of threatening and explicit sexual messages, on one occasion while standing outside her house.

The teacher said that during the harassment workshop this student frequently referenced Tate, saying: "You shouldn't take no for an answer [from a girl] as that shows weakness."

She said: "I was shocked by the sheer number of young, seemingly lovely boys showing the same point of view."

I will have to stop typing about this now because of the violent rage.

*goes to Tumblr*

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It actually works. I should try this more often but eventually I will have seen all the photos of 70s/80s Geddy Lee.

[Nyctophilia]

LOL

Apparently this is fake which is a bit sad but it's still funny.



edit:

hey i'm really sorry because you were a really cool mutual but for the record i have to unfollow you because the purple creature in your profile picture (whatever she's from) (or they sorry i don't want to assume the beast's pronouns) (i love all genders) looks almost exactly like my ex girlfriend's fursona and i tried to ignore that for a while because i'm not the kind of [BEEP] who would unfollow someone because their creature looks like my ex's fursona but get this: she drew her fursona hitting me (human) (i'm not a furry) (nothing against them) (i love all genders) with a car (honda civic) and sent it to me from a burner account on toyhouse. so needless to say i can't keep doing this. i'm gonna miss your posts though you were a real one i loved when you would say [BEEP] like 'it's (the f slur) wednesday post knuckles"

!??!?!??!?!?!?

#this is only something that you'd read in a tumblr ask

Lol yes. All the parenthesis and the multiple 'I love all genders' really sent me.

This actually killed me:

(human) (i'm not a furry) (nothing against them) (i love all genders) with a car (honda civic)

Suddenly reminded of this:



I would give anything to know
(About the Stonehenge)
Yeah, I would give all I have to give
(Would you give them your car?)
(Hmm) Are you kidding me, of course I would have given the car
What car do you drive?
Drive a Civic, drive a Civic. Drive a Civic!
(A car you can trust!)
Never mind the car, let's talk about the henge
(What henge is that again?)
It's the Stonehenge, it's the Stonehenge!
God, it is the greatest henge of all!
What's the meaning of Stonehenge?

[Nyctophilia]

The charity's co-founder Sara Cunningham estimates that an average class of 30 children will have eight boys who admire Tate.

The teacher said that during the harassment workshop this student frequently referenced Tate, saying: "You shouldn't take no for an answer [from a girl] as that shows weakness."

She said: "I was shocked by the sheer number of young, seemingly lovely boys showing the same point of view."

By all means keep going until 50% of the female population call themselves lesbians and the other 50% are just Tumblr. And Solanas' prophecy is completed. That's what you were going for right?

Also this is America (tm) but I'm sure something like this will just keep happening over time here too increasingly polarised:

For much of the past two decades, young women and men have had similar political profiles. But the ideological differences between them grew rapidly over the past few years as young women became increasingly liberal. In 2021, 44 percent of young women consider themselves liberal, compared to only one quarter (25 percent) of young men, a nearly 20-point gender gap. A decade earlier, roughly similar numbers of young men (27 percent) and young women (30 percent) identified as liberal. These changes are also reflected in the diverging views about societal change. Young women stand out for their support for changing social norms in American society, including more women serving in the military, more children having gay or lesbian parents, and more men staying home with children. There are a few possible explanations for the expanding gender divide between young men and women. The growing disparity in educational attainment, distinct approaches to gender identity and sexual preferences, and even the visceral dislike of Donald Trump may contribute to the rapidly changing political orientations between the two groups.

And 50+50 adds up to 100% and I'm too lazy to break up the percentages further but of course some increasinging percentage of women are going to turn to self serving narcissistic endeavours because 'if men are trash [BEEP] them I'll get mine.' So you'll get way more false rape accusations, way more women who use men for money etc. You already see this a bunch on social media and it's going to get worse unless something changes.

How Narcissistic Leaders Destroy from Within

"There are leaders who may be abusive jerks but aren?t really narcissists," O?Reilly says. "The distinction is what motivates them. Are they driven to achieve some larger purpose? Do they really want to make the company or the country better, or accomplish some crazy goal like making electric cars mainstream and maybe colonizing Mars along the way? Or is it really all about their own aggrandizement?"

Such individuals seek positions of power where they can be admired and can demonstrate their superiority. And they tend to gain those posts because they look like prototypical leaders. "There must be 20 or 30 studies that demonstrate this," O?Reilly says. "If you gather a group of strangers and give them a task, those who are more narcissistic are much more likely to be selected as leaders."

But the gravest danger posed by such leaders is that their malignant influence guides the behavior and expectations of others -- and ultimately shapes the culture of the organization or polity in their own image. Studies of businesses show that self-serving, unethical behavior at the top cascades through the organization and becomes legitimized, or at least normalized.

So that's fun.

Also I just discovered this song and it's really good (I was liking Rush's heavier songs so yeah and the singer of this band - apparently died last year - had a high pitched voice again but looking at some of their later tracks his vocals were still decent but lower and less unique sounding but I think singing like this as a guy is hard especially as you get older):



This band are also weirdly similar to Rush in other ways lol but I think they formed a year before Rush? Like the lead singer at this time had long hair and glasses, high pitched voice, played bass. The drummer has long hair in this video and facial hair a bit like Neil Peart around that time. There's three of them. Everyone in the 70s was one of three people confirmed. The guitarist doesn't look like Alex Lifeson I guess.

[Nyctophilia]

Something tangentially related that I have to do more investigating on. We spend a lot of time culturally talking about the importance of boys having dads. Like I say I have to do more research but I did stumble on something not too long ago that suggests that in cases where the dad is particularly malignant, psychopathic, very antisocial etc it actually worsens boys/men's behaviour and they'd be better off without him.

I think that's important because if you have a kid, and the dad is really fucked up, keeping him away from the kids especially if they're boys might be best. It's not a universal truth that having a dad leads to better outcomes if it's a choice between no dad or really [BEEP] dad.

Also there's research that suggests girls have better self esteem when raised by two gay dads. There's a lot less research on gay dads compared to lesbian parents though and there's a much steeper barrier to entry to becoming parents as a gay dad especially biologically. Costs a lot more money and surrogacy is frowned upon a lot:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...a-battleground

Nobody asks someone having children naturally why they did it instead of adopting. I help others in other ways but that's not how I choose to do it

Gay men want surrogacy instead of adoption, she says, because of "genetic narcissism".

I don't want the surrogate daughter I carried to question if she's here because someone was taken advantage of. It added to my life in so many positive ways

"Situationally, we are the most infertile, by measure of the level of intervention that is required to achieve a pregnancy. We're also expected to be OK with not having children. This is the kind of discrimination we're trying to fight the most."

I think this is really unfair because nobody says this about lesbians or heterosexual couples or trans couples where they have at least one person with a womb in the relationship (people often say worse things though tbh about straight trans couples lol - uh no I need to be more specific when I say straight specifically a trans guy and a trans woman, or trans masc and trans femme person who has kids not a cis guy and a very feminine straight trans woman and they adopt or get a surrogate. Also trans guys in general being pregnant, they think it goes against nature. But I thought you said every genetic female person should get pregnant? You were so worried about their fertility but looks it's fine. What's wrong? 😏 )

Terfs tend to hate the idea of surrogacy (obviously some surrogacy is exploitative but they hate it regardless,) and they also hate the idea of artificial wombs and try to work to stop research into that (you'd think they might like that if they dislike surrogacy but no.) And they trans women. And they hate sex work. And they hate sex robots. And they hate AI porn. And anything that might 'replace the female sex.' Or involve women/the female sex behaving altruistically towards men/the male sex. Because they're chauvinists and they dislike female empathy probably often due to past trauma and having a fundamentalist religious upbringing that's why Aella is so fascinating though since she also had that upbringing but somehow is very different. She may be autistic though. I don't know she doesn't seem neurotypical though.

(lib fems tend to have varying opinions on most of these things instead of hating all of them because there are mild ideological overlaps. They usually are OK with surrogacy, sex work and trans women but dislike AI porn. That's what I've been seeing so far. Not sure why AI porn specifically bugs them maybe just cause it's new and not Human at all. I dunno.

I think a lot of conservatives are partly motivated by having an overreactive uncanny valley feeling in their brains. That was like half of Matt Walsh's insults/complaints about Dylan Mulvaney in the video where he was ranting about her, which makes them dislike trans women so it sort of fits. Also autistic people seem to have that way less which is why they like anime and anthropomorphised animals/objects etc so much. More likely to be furries. More likely to be trans/attracted to trans people from what I've seen. Femboys too. Everything on that voidpunk subreddit seems related. Maybe you just want to be a cyberpunk Roman statue fused with Anna Wintour?



Can't unsee it (I think it's a coincidence though):

It's really interesting you bring that up because I do think there is a universal mind that does gravitate towards this imagery or, somehow, it?s codified in the music and the general aesthetics of it. I know it?s leaked into this particular genre vaporwave, which is something I don?t really know much about, but I have noted that these sculptures and figures do pop up. I?ve always personally been really interested in the lifelessness of mannequins as well and sculptures. They convey so much, but they?re still totally inanimate. The idea behind us kind of whiting our faces out and not showing our eyes and trying to distance ourselves from the humans behind their instruments as much as possible and be more into the objectified zone.

I like the idea of the static statue that is imbued with so much more symbology, but it's static. The point of the record cover was to also be static. I?m really interested in mime history and that is an homage to a French mime artist, Marcel Marceau. The Greco-Roman figures are important. The Venus Di Milo had it's own specific application about how it's missing its arms and there's a whole theme about arms in the first record. In the song "The Foyer," the first lyric is, "You can?t feel those arms of mine," and that was a reference to something else, but the Venus Di Milo missing its arms was the most immediate reference that I could point to that would describe that particular scenario about not being able to feel one?s arms. I like that relationship. Apollo has just found its way into the set organically.

Someone should actually do research on that politically though. It seems relevant to the debate about transhumanism, AI porn (specifically porn there are several different debates happening about AI at least simultaneously that aren't related to the visuals,) and the debate about transgender people.

In saying that there are two ways to respond to the sensation right? Well a spectrum. You could experience it and dislike it or experience it and think 'cool' or even be turned on by it. I mean I like mildly creepy stuff. When I was using faceapp to make Loki more feminine I noticed all the little imperfections and weird stuff the AI did and it sort of added to the attraction. I also like mildly creepy people in TV/film whatever. It started with Beetlejuice when I was 7. One person on twitter... That seems insulting though lol. I dunno. I'm kind of creepy too and have that effect on people so. When I was a teenager some people compared me to Samara from The Ring and a girl said her mum said I seemed like Wednesday Addams in an insulting way and people kept joking that I was going to kill/destroy everyone. This continued up until I stopped socialising with people regularly irl. I think because of the juxtaposition of seeming very neotenic/childish but being weird and socially anxious.

When AI is perfected that will have uses but I'm going to miss all the quirky extra fingers, weird teeth, and other stuff that's uniquely AI.

And that's how I ended up dating a cannibal. 'You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.' Lol no.

I mostly attracted guys who are emotionally unstable and have borderline traits. Maybe vulnerable narcissistic traits too. Socially anxious etc. So my dad but more extreme. And somewhat more insane versions of myself. Some guys were also not like that at all. A woman with bipolar who I think was having a manic episode hit on me once. I don't think I've attracted any would-be cannibal types so far.

[Heelsbythebridge]

The big boys need to show up

Or this is the last game they will ever play together

[Nyctophilia]

https://aella.substack.com/p/which-g...e-more-similar

I asked about a bunch of stuff - big5 personality, childhood, mental illnesses, but mostly stuff related to sex - porn use and fetishes. I asked about age various fetishes began, about BMI, IQ, attachment style, where they got to the survey from, if they?re married, how ashamed they feel, how many sexual partners, etc. Overall there were around 1,100 datapoints gathered from this survey per person.

Non-cis answers tend to be similar to each other; in general, any given non-cis group will correlate more strongly with any other non-cis group, regardless of gender or birth sex. The only exception here is female enbies, who were more similar to cis women.

Enbies are very similar to their corresponding transgender group; male enbies answered about the same as transwomen, and female enbies about the same as transmen.

I don't really get how these two statements can be true simultaneously. Like how are all non-cis groups similar to each other regardless of gender + birth sex except afab non-binary who are closer to cis women but at the same time non-binary afab people are also most similar to trans men? edit: and trans women and amab non-binary people are apparently dissimilar from cis women and cis men so it's not that either.

Squinting, I think the trends seem to coincide? Non-cis males seem to be most similar to non-cis females. and almost equally dissimilar to both cis men and women. Non-cis females are more similar to cis women, cis men are the most similar to cis women, etc.

Enbies are very similar to their corresponding transgender group; male enbies answered about the same as transwomen, and female enbies about the same as transmen.

Cis men and transmen had the most dissimilar scores of any group comparisons measured

Cis men are most similar to cis women? Non-cis males are similar to non-cis females? afab non-binary people are similar to cis women but also most similar to trans men? Trans men are least similar to cis men but not similar to cis women?

??? I don't know I'm missing something.

It's interesting that you can see bio_males and bio_females are a bit different (-0.21), but queerbiofemale is basically the opposite of bio_male (-0.9). As if the identity is to be what straight males are not.

This might explain it a bit because I think most afab non-binary people and some [BEEP] trans men basically try to model themselves on effeminate gay men and straight trans women. Who are ironically hyper feminised in many ways (possibly even compared to straight cis women in some ways.) Both because progressive communities are often toxic to men and masculinity and because there's always been a tendency for [BEEP] trans men to want to imitate androgynous men. That's why there are certain communities of trans women online who are always getting pissed off with afab non-binary people as they see them as direct competition (even moreso than cis women somehow.)

But this doesn't apply to probably most [BEEP] women or reflect other research at all. They usually find bi women are masculinised relative to straight women and lesbian women are masculinised relative to bisexual women and so on. And there are separate categories for [BEEP] people of both sexes and non-binary people in this survey anyway apparently so I dunno. It is useful to separate everyone by sexuality also because sexuality effects personality and androphiles are different from gynephiles. Clearly this is a sample taken mostly from tiktok (that happened in her other survey so I assume.)

My intuition would be that these results are dominated by gender progressivism, as women are more progressive than men and trans people are more progressive than cis people.

Yeah.

Lol very related:

sometimes i think about how white and basic and toned-down my romantic fantasies have become,,, like all I want is a slightly older trans guy who tops and will play video games next to me while I read Virginia Woolf on the couch

"heteronormativity is great" that's me i said that. i'm a trans woman and i said that and you can quote me

trans guys reading this like "yes i *also* want a slightly older trans guy who tops and will play video games while I read Virginia Woolf on the couch" now you understand my problem!!!

lots of useful talk today about trans men who are "straight" and "bisexual," but we're still very unclear on the topping situation

trans men can be female socialized <3 i can be female socialized too <3 <3 we can all be female socialized <3 <3 <3 the question is if you'll top me

okie the final thing you all need to understand about every one of my angry takes about "pegging" is that at the end of the day I'm essentially just a tgirl pick-me for straight trans masc tops, all seven of them

Trans Men and the Moral Obligation to Top: A [BEEP] Inquiry into Sexual Morality (pg 1/644)

trans guys who are into me and also bottoms are a microaggression

Imagine if I tried to date people and was attractive. The bar is so low now and I still have no self confidence at all. Of course part of the issue is that my hair is pretty long, I haven't medically transitioned, and I'm non-binary. Don't have butch vibes either. My entire personality etc.

Tragic: local woman goes to trans event, only gets hit on by cis men.

trans men owe me masculinity. please have it on my desk by 9 AM monday morning

I still need to find more accounts like this but there are barely any actually. 3 I think. That I've found.

There was another specific tweet I was looking for from someone but I can't remember enough of it to find it. Just someone listing what they were looking for and it was so basic and I was like 'so close.' I think one thing they said was 'bad at art' lmfao. I was searching for random keywords to try and remember what I was looking at when I read it before. Just reading theyfab tweets now lol.

I wish I hadn't been introduced to the concept of a "theyfab." Now I have a little voice in my head saying "theyfab behavior" if I cry, listen to pop music, take in art created by women, or care about something besides Marvel movies, statistics, and lifting.

Statistics lmao. It's so bad though yeah.

Oh god no I ended up back in age gap relationship discourse twitter:

As somebody who regularly works around 18-21 year olds, I can confidently it say would be incredibly predatory for me (29) to date someone that young, let alone have a child with them.

Anyway I'm definitely never finding that tweet I have no idea what I was searching for at the time.

[Heelsbythebridge]

Motherfucker just kill me I can't take this

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

DONT LET WHAT HAPPENED TO US HAPPEN TO THEM

[Heelsbythebridge]

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[Heelsbythebridge]

I believe in you always

It's so hard

Forget all the noise

Remember why you came here