Reading bisexual posts (and/or posts about bisexuality,) on reddit today. Was giving the twitter straights too much attention lately.
"Why is it bad to be biphobic to men? Some of my best friends are bi women."Trying to understand why biphobia is wrong
So I'm a fem gold star gay (not transphobic, would totally date a trans man) and I know I have views that are considered biphobic, I don't deny it because words have meanings but I don't feel wrong knowing it?? I understand excluding bi men from your attraction is harmful when it comes to dating but outside of that? what does it effect? I don't feel bad for rejecting bi guys when sought out just like how I wouldn't feel bad for rejecting someone masc (i like fem men) because it's just a preference in dating. Really trying to understand here because I genuinely can't understand why it's so wrong
Im friends with ALOT of bi women btw. Like wayy more than every other lgbt+ demographic
LOL.
He did a thing.
He asked that on the wrong sub I don't have to check the comments to know people are going to be calling him bisexual because he said he'd date a trans guy. But I did AND THE FIRST COMMENT:
Think prob most of the guys on the gaybros subs actually prefer straight and bi men because they see them as more masculine. I've seen posts like that a lot not just on that sub though actually I ran into that yesterday lol in the comments of a Contrapoints video I watched:Male on female relationships are gay now?I'm a fem gold star gay (not transphobic, would totally date a trans man)
yes it's problematic to be masc for masc or whatever, but have you thought about only dating bi men? they're masculine and if someone says it's problematic, you can call them biphobic.Wait who's mgk? Oh no do you mean Machine Gun Kelly? He's very masculine, I don't get all the people who say otherwise. This was terrible (it gets worse every time I've ever listened to it somehow lol. Initially I was like 'nah' now I'm like 'I hate you and also get off my lawn.'):cus all bi men are gender conforming or some shit... no. not even all straight men are like LOOK at mgk. someone just look at him. for me.
Also:
"And what's with 'she only dates girls with a big dick? I think you missed the point. Emo girls may have liked big ones, but they wanted to see you suck it Mr Machine Gun."
It's true.
As someone who never self identified as an emo or liked the label but was called emo and goth by other students in my secondary school and listened to My Chemical Romance, Alkaline Trio, AFI, Billy Talent etc (and lots of other bands and musicians that weren't emo at all,) this is racist against my people now.
Edit: Actually thinking about it now that emo video and related discussion fits in with the 'female gaze' and 'genderfluid gaze' discussion. Jennifer's body has weird significance to me in my life lol not the film itself but just because there are many memories involving this. But I don't really think of it as being part of the same era even though the film technically came out right at the end of 2009 (so it was during that decade,) because I was at uni when it came out so it feels very different to like most of this music which was coming out when I was 13-15 or so.
But yeah I initially watched it at the cinema and this was I think the day after I went on my first date with a guy which I didn't realise was a date, then realised it was a date, and then we kissed and then I let him know over Facebook when I got home that I wasn't interested and he had a meltdown over it (I shouldn't have kissed him but I wasn't really in the same emotional space as him like to me I was sort of experimenting and he'd developed a very one sided crush on me in an incredibly short space of time. I'm sure we'd known each other no longer than a month.) Then I went to the cinema with this other guy I knew to watch Jennifer's Body. I think he was into me too and from what I remember had basically said to this third guy that the guy I went on a date with was an emotional mess and he was going to try and 'show him how it's done' or something lol. He was also into basically everyone, and did express that he was attracted to me at some point but I always made it clear I wasn't interested in him and he wasn't my type at all tbh. The third guy who told me that was also sort of into me but not really, and we went on some kind of dates. I think a lot of guys just didn't have many options at the time and he was kind of bored and wanted a relationship. I've posted about that third guy a lot too lol. I was sort of into him but it would have never worked. This was a really weird time for me because I went from being unattractive to 99% of guys in my hometown to being one of few options they had just by moving geographical location. So it was very confusing. Same feeling as being in some kind of isekai anime.
Then a few years later I was watching Jennifer's Body on TV and my dad walked into the room during the scene where Needy and Jennifer are making out and he was like 'ewww.' I think he might be less homophobic now, at least about men. My brother was talking about his friend who is gay and also how they were walking in public and ran into two guys having sex recently and my dad didn't really react much to that. But he has made homophobic comments about men before not even that long ago I think. He uses like old English slurs which is weird because he's the only person irl I've heard use them lol. Most homophobic comments I hear are Americans online, on TV etc.
It's interesting because I more often hear the reverse occasionally from straight women because it's seen as emasculating. I'm bespoke though (the meme,) so I tend to think bisexual men are actually hyper masculine on average (relative to gay and straight men,) because of some research I read about digit ratios or something, and that's the turn off if anything.Oh no I don't have any past experiences w bi men at all, I've never dated or fucked one I'm just simply turned off when I found out a guys been with women. And it kinda sucks cus bi men tend to go after fem gays usually rather than more masc leaning, and a lot of fem gays WILL NOTTT fw other fems
Saw off your ring finger.Research suggests that having a longer ring finger compared to index finger reflects greater exposure to male hormones during an individual's time in their mother's womb. There are differences between and within sexes in finger lengths associated with relatively more masculine versus feminine development.
Well I tried to be reasonable.
I dunno man that's a bit excessive. I know trans guys love femme guys historically but you can tone it down a bit. (No I know he's talking about trans women and stonewall but it's funny.)Yes a male on female relationship can be gay. Every time you log on Grindr to go be the hoe you are remember that the only reason why your able to do that today is BECAUSE of what trans people did for our community. Transphobes should all burn
These subreddits are always insane.So not wanting to date a trans man is transphobic?I hope you overdose on all the poppers and meth you do.
Gay men are the straight twitter women of reddit. Actually they might be a large chunk of the straight twitter women too thinking about it because I was mostly thinking about stan culture lol. But there are the femcels too.
Some of these people are prob trolls though.
Using it unironically is making me consider he might be trolling... Also almost everything else he posted lol....What the [BEEP] is a "fem gold star gay"? Is it a rarity classification on a gatcha game? Are you bellow the SSR 5 platinum star gays!?
What about how you're not dating bisexual men though?Sorry, I don't do either.Yes its transphobic, it's up to you to unlearn your "preference"
I need to know if being trans cancels out the bi thing or not. It's not mutually exclusive and I actually think a lot of trans guys are bisexual to some degree or have been.So your calling people transphobic for not wanting to sleep with trans men. But your not misogynistic for not wanting to [BEEP] a bi guy cause he's been inside a woman?
What a rollercoaster.
Post by a woman:
I mean it's great if you want to have sex with women but I don't think I'd respect someone like that and would probably leave them for a woman so they learn.Ohhhhhh I've definitely experienced the biphobia.
Only girls interested in dating me were also bi. Lesbians would never go for me.
And a dude I used to date believed it was totally acceptable for me to date women while we were together because he didn't see them as a threat. He thought there was no way I could fall in love with and leave him for a woman so long as his manliness and mighty penis were an option?? I took advantage of his ignorance and went with girls, sure, but I didn't realize until after I left him how fucked up and misogynistic that thought process was.
OK so definitely should have left him for a woman then. Also I think some guys just mentally check out because they assume bisexual people aren't monogamous or something. This is pretty insane statistically especially the bolded:He was definitely ignorant, but he was also very misogynistic. He was racist, abusive, a huge Milo Yiannopoulos fan, didn't believe trans people were valid, he was a rapist, physically and mentally abusive, he cheated on me constantly, and was a compulsive liar, gaslighter, and manipulator.
The lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner is extremely high in the lesbian, gay and bisexual community with lesbian women (43.8% ), gay men (26% ), bisexual women (61.1% ), and bisexual men (37.3% ) reporting experiencing this violence, compared to heterosexual women (35% ) and heterosexual men (29% ).
Among women who experienced rape, physical violence and/or stalking in the context of an intimate relationship, the majority of bisexual and heterosexual women (89.5% and 98.7%, respectively) reported only male perpetrators while self-identified lesbians (67.4% ) reported having only female perpetratorsYeah should have left after the first time. Really should have left after finding out he liked Milo lol. The best time to leave was straight away lol.I tried to establish an open relationship after catching him cheating for the millionth time and he refused. It was never about cheating or not cheating, it was about control and perceived threats.