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    Getting her box blown out BBC style this is ALOT of white women id almost argue 80% of white women have dated a black guy at some point and time
    I really doubt that many have. I really do stumble on these kind of comments a lot. So I got curious and started googling different things to try and find studies on racial territorialism etc - was curious if anyone had started to research this topic given the mass obsession online over the past decade, but just ended up reading a bunch more posts I stumbled on on various subreddits lol... I guess mostly by Americans. It's like the most lost people imaginable.

    They have absolutely no idea what women want especially white women.

    I was almost a red pill once but the blatant racism and sexist nature of the group drove me away.

    Some examples of the racism: because I a black man do well with women they'd call me a Tyron, or they just say "women just wanna try black cock". Etc. It totally disregards the fact that I just know how to talk to women.

    When they see an attractive white woman with a black man they say "there goes a future single mother"

    Why are they so insecure if the red pill is supposed to elevate their game?
    The hyper-masculinization of black men has done a ton for their community. Why is there not a single Asian man on Love Island, please answer this?
    It really hasn't honestly. Any black guy who doesn't fit the hypermasculine stereotype is now at a disadvantage and since the hypermasculine stereotype doesn't appeal to most women dating site statistics show, predictably, that aside from black women black men get the least responses.

    So some guys on one subreddit were talking about using porn to try and change the stereotype of Asian guys as being 'sexless' etc lol:

    But it's a powerful social engineering tool. It's pumped out in mass and offered for free for a reason. And the masses definitely watch a ton of porn and have their world views influenced by it. Do you guys understand just how vulnerable the brain is to reshaping based on experiences, ideas, images etc. associated with orgasm? Extremely effective way to leverage neuro plasticity.

    We'd be idiotic not to push AMXF porn. And for such media, we ought to cherry pick the most well endowed, attractive AM possible to star in them.
    This mentality is dumb too really since a lot of porn - and certainly the kind they're all talking about - doesn't appeal to most women it appeals to men because it's designed for men (some guy tried to point this out and got massively downvoted lol.) It's even more dumb if you're looking for a serious relationship since the vast majority of women do not base their relationship preferences on hardcore porn (also they watch a lot of lesbian porn when they do watch porn, even when they identify as straight.) So in this case Asian film and music industries (dramas, kpop, other media etc,) are much more effective than this weird porn idea would ever be. Also YouTube.

    The porn thing at best will give white guys another inferiority complex to obsess over for no reason like a bunch of them do with black guys lol, while changing nothing materially for Asian guys.

    edit: Also straight guys will write stuff like this while trying to promote their appeal to women but it's just so gay.

    I'd rather see Asian dudes embrace what makes them unique instead of copying that obnoxious "gym bro gigachat behavior" that a lot of white guys emulate.
    Yup most people don't even want white guys to do that.

    Something i've noticed is that Black People (especially men) spit out truth when it comes to gender relations while most White People dress everything up in pretty little lies.
    You notice this in music too. You got Chris Brown with "These hoes ain't loyal", Kanye with "Golddigger", Wash with "Can't trust thots", and the whole genre of [gangsta] rap. Meanwhile white dudes are only writing sappy love songs begging for attention or talking in very blue pill ways.
    That's because white girls are so used to being coddled they can't stand anything else.
    That's how you attract most women yeah. I actually prefer white male gaze music to gangsta rap though:



    'Rape the limbless cadavers'

    But I have a weird sense of humour.

    I don't listen to Cannibal Corpse unironically though lol. Prefer melodeath, gothic metal, folk metal, nu metal, alternative metal, depressive suicidal black metal and Arch Enemy. (Just giving them their own category lol.)





    Metal bands make pretty good rock music too sometimes.



    'White dudes are only writing sappy love songs'

    That's very funny.





    I actually think most prog rock music is about topics unrelated to romance and sex. There's also tons of political music floating around.

    I can't go down this route though I'll end up posting way too many music videos lol.

    I'm pretty sure a lot of white girls love Kanye.
    They love cancelling him these days lol.

    You can tell how threatened a man is by another man's sexual prowess by how he reacts to a woman of his tribe dating him. White, Hispanic and Arabic men get super butt hurt when their women date black men, that's why there is so much venom for women with mixed race children around these parts. Asian men interestedly get the most upset at their women dating white men hence r/hapas.
    Well if they're going to get upset in the first place (which is pretty cringe,) it'd probably make more sense to focus on the next group they're most likely to date and marry etc after their own race. Which would be white guys for Asian women.

    Some white guys on the other hand, especially in the US, have adopted a more fascinating approach. Ignore that white women rarely marry men of other races in the first place (and I think white people are like the least likely group to do that,) ignore that 51% of interracial marriages in the US that include white women are with Hispanic men. Fixate on black men ???

    Yup.

    You missed one thing: Black men have benefited from hip hop culture/media GREATLY when it comes to women. Imagine if an Indian guy came up to a girl and said this like a black guy would:

    "Hey girl, I don't wanna be disrespectful or nothin', but I jus wanna say that behind is POPPIN' in them jeans! Damn girl! U sweatin' a [BEEP] up in here. : ) : )"


    I don't know how it's possible to be this confused. How are they posting these things unironically lol?

    Are most women not sexually attracted to their partners?

    Women say all the time that most men are unattractive and ugly, mostly on reddit, youtube, twitter etc. Redpillers also claim women are sexually attracted to the top 20% of men (A lot of people claim that it means top 20% of men are dating 80% of women but that's simply not true, and I'm sure very few men claim the same), a lot of studies on dating apps states the same, some even claim it's 95-5. So it seems that a lot of women agree with redpillers on this one. A lot of women also claim women are more beautiful than men on average.
    Possibly, I don't date now. I don't think physical attraction was the problem for me though, or even attraction in general, it's just easier to be attracted to people from a distance + I became less attracted to people in general over the years. My most intense crush was just on a guy from an anxiety site and he was physically attractive (my attraction was actually solely based on that to start with,) but probably not top 20% of men, but it's not like I view things in those terms to be able to say.

    Then you could say that irl there are plenty of average or below average men in relationships. And that's where my confusion comes in. Why? If women clearly think that these dudes are unattractive then why be in a relationship with them? Yes his personality might be okay or even great, might be funny, charming etc but is he sexually attractive to her? The common answers I see are that he makes her laugh, he makes her feel safe, yes I'm not denying that, but isn't that settling? Will he ever turn her on like an attractive man would? I live in a country where arranged marriage is the norm so I have no doubt that there aren't any sexual attraction between most of the married couples I see (despite being one of the most densely populated country in the world lol). But what about the west? Arranged marriage is definitely not the norm there so how does it make sense?
    I guess they probably are sexually attracted to them because when I realised it wasn't working with my ex's I broke up with them after several months. But there were so many complicating factors that weren't just tied to sexual attraction.

    The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests that women aren't attracted to the average looking men. "Well women's sexuality is different and they value personality more", well if you talk with attractive men you'd know that women can be unhinged when they are attracted to someone. Women go crazy over kpop dudes, they go bonkers for someone like Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddlestone, Henry Cavil. They even go crazy for attractive criminals, serial killers etc. So they clearly are attracted to looks and appearance, most of them anyway.
    Yeah but what women find physically attractive varies a bit more and the women who are attracted to serial killers are often hybristophiles, so they're not just turned on by looks they have a paraphilia. Plus you could argue with most of these guys that there are other factors besides physical appearance.

    No they're not and unfortunately most men don't even realize it. That's probably 80% of marriages since the beginning of time. That's why marriage rate is sharply down and will continue. Women make their own money, healthy social networks, and can [BEEP] good looking men whenever. No reason for them to lock down with someone they only love as a friend or brother.
    Well there's one of two hypothesis that make sense to me:

    1. Women actually weren't involved in mate selection to the degree that people think and so now that they have freedom of choice they don't find most men attractive because they didn't select them. In which case men historically kind of fucked themselves but it will fix itself in a few generations if mostly attractive people reproduce.

    2. There's something you're supposed to be doing but aren't (I think it's playing music,) and most women don't know what it is (it really seems to be music though,) because knowing is evolutionarily destructive. (Are women birds?) And that makes sense because predators pretend to be attractive people so you don't want to give men advice they're 'supposed to know.' And/or knowing is part of the test.

    I think this is why you can't generally share tips:



    Throughout this video where he pretends to be quirky and awkward he just blatantly lists off a bunch of stuff he's read that women find attractive. And he tried this with a bunch of different women. I might be remembering wrong and it might have been some other guy but possibly this was the person who slapped someone who actually did meet up with him as some kind of test to see how well they tolerate abuse....

    The ol' Dennis Reynolds strat
    It is a lot like him actually lol yeah.

    It's not that "weird" when you realise that it is all calculated, the guy pobably has a list called [Things women like in men] and he tries to fit all of it in as talking points to make himself seem "perfect", but since the guy is not real in the way that he is describing, most people can tell that he is waaaaay off.

    I fear for the day that he gets someone on the hook that can't tell the difference tho, if it hasn't already happened.
    Absolutely and if I'm remembering correctly he did but thankfully his next step didn't work. The worst part is I don't know if he's faking the neurodivergent ADHD/autism self monologue or if he just happens to have one of those disorders too. Like it's weird to think even that is part of his act because he saw it in her bio......

    As someone with ADHD, I can recognize his "stream of consciousness". That's exactly what he's doing. I also go on tangents with branches of loosely-related ideas, and mist people with ADHD do. Granted most of us have FAR more self-awareness and get carried away in a conversation of interest with someone we know, not a hostage. At the end he even says "I got the impression you're a fellow NEURODIVERGENT person", thus admitting he identifies as ADHD/Aspergers. That's weird in itself because "neurodivergence" is not something you'd expect to be dropped in a first-time, unsolicited conversation, and could likely insult the other people by implying they probably are too from a bio!

    **Self-awareness of my lengthy tangent, but felt it was relevant**
    It is quite convincing yes but considering everything else is scripted and bs that probably was too.

    it's strange cause his voice actually sounds pretty fluent and confident, but the stuff he's saying.. it's like he is just saying everything that goes through his mind, and not just thinking it
    Yeah it's quite unusual for the content of what he's saying and made me more suspicious tbh.

    I was just going to comment that his voice... ACTUALLY sounds sort of attractive? But yeah this entire thing is just... God, creepy-
    I'm sure he knows that and that's why he sent a bunch of audio files.

    Also at one point he says he hates cats but loves dogs but he's way too weird to not like cats. So he failed the test.

    I think female attraction is multifaceted so and previously people thought there was no visual aspect but now they know there is. Looks is not enough for women to be have sex or want a relationship with a man.
    Uh it was for me but I'm non-binary.

    I'd be curious to see this study, not that It would change my mind.

    You can bring a woman to orgasm (pretty easily) by just physically stimulating her down there (trying not to be vulgar) while you talk dirty to her in her ear, and her eyes are closed.

    Good luck ever bringing a dude to orgasm while his eyes are closed with a hand job just by dirty talking to him. He will want to open his eyes loom at the girl and ideally have intercourse.

    To say women and men are equally visual with regards to sexual attraction is incorrect and dumb.
    Well I don't think his eyes were closed most of the time but I was usually fully clothed and giving him handjobs. I even managed to get him to have an orgasm while talking about him having sex with the abomination from WoW. Which I'm realising if I never have another relationship will actually be my favourite sexual memory. Well I don't think he came while I was talking about that (or I don't remember,) but he stayed hard. Impressive honestly.

    I should have done stuff like that more. This is why I like masochists haha.

    *on my deathbed*

    'I should have tortured more men.'

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    The impulse is pure
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    The thing I'm describing by 'good sex' might be different than what others mean. But here, it means something like 'losing yourself in the experience'. When I look back on sexual experiences I consider great, they all have the commonality of me sort of becoming the sex, if that makes sense? Like I'm no longer Aella's brain, doing thinky things, I am Aella's body, doing orgasmy things. I've lost the plot, I don't remember what the plot was, I'm just sexcreature emitting a constant stream of noises.

    And so in a sense I'm describing a guide to get a woman (vaguely similar to me) to become a sex body.

    Unfortunately this is not a guide for men themselves to become sex bodies in the same way, I'm sorry. This is a pretty heteronormative guide, and it centers on vaguely active-male, receptive-female styles of interaction, where the advice for both sides is not symmetric. If you're a subby guy really looking for a lady to take control and like it, this probably won't be the guide for you.
    Yeah but actually I'd be interested in reading that guide because I'm curious but also looking for potential ideas of how to turn myself on + also since I'm turned on by male masochism + submissiveness but I have the completely wrong personality type for that sexuality (or any sexuality really, there's lots of shame and repression etc,) but I also have no self confidence. So even if I'm not thinking of myself as evil and/or being disgusted it seems impossible. My thought process is almost always counterintuitive.

    And also all these posts are paywalled damn.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I'm looking at this chart with a bunch of fetishes people have rated in terms of how taboo they felt they were to society + how many people were into them (I'm guessing this is just straight people but I don't know, and some stuff is illegal,) and people have actually rated brother-brother incest as more taboo than mother-son which is really weird to me. They've also rated brother-brother incest as very taboo so there's a lot of taboo stuff that they've rated as less taboo than it. I'm guessing most people assume society is very homophobic but I would have thought anything with parent-child would be more taboo than siblings. Not to mention two guys can't reproduce.

    Why do people think being eagerly begged is more taboo than spanking and light bondage? Also why is being eagerly begged more taboo than being sexually worshiped?

    There's a lot of confusing stuff here lol.

    They have gender ratio of people into the fetishes too so despite the stereotypes about white women it turns out men are more into horses lol. Women are into dragons a little more though.

    Also brother-brother incest is preferred by women. So is father-son. I read a story like that as a teenager but I was more into the idea of this boy moving next door to the creepy twins who were creepy twins than the incest. I'm not really into incest stuff in porn (that also wasn't something I used to get off lol just like you know a romantic story about the creepy twins. I feel like they were emo too or my brain remembers them that way. It was the 2000s and whichever edgelord teen girl probably wrote that story probably wrote them to be emo-adj at least.)

    Sister-sister and mother-sister incest which are both seen as much less taboo (or people think other people they are less taboo) are preferred by men. I feel like that's not fair and this is just saying male homosexuality is more taboo than female basically. I mean that's assuming people's perception are correct and whatever lol. Although mother-son incest is a bit more taboo than sister-sister and mother-daughter so it's also a thing about guys even then though these are all sort of close to each other and brother-brother and father-son is way off near more severe things lol. Well it's all subjective I guess.

    Women are slightly more into pegging than men (which goes against things I've heard from men but doesn't really surprise me either,) slightly more into women with penises which I wouldn't have thought (actually it's basically neutral? uh 1-1.5 times more popular with women, it's hard to tell the subtle colour shades lol,) but at the same time doesn't really surprise me (I feel like people talk about men being into women with dicks more though and that they're more vocal about it,) women are more into most gender related stuff listed here (like androgyny and women without breasts, men with vaginas, I guess women are just more into trans people in this survey,) but men prefer gender transformation and sissification. Crossdressing is a very neutral one apparently and hermaphrodites whatever that means oh both sets of genitals? Yeah I'm into people with both in my imagination anyway.

    I can't see either corruption or mind control as usual and those are two of my biggest ones. Are they really that unusual that she never thinks to include them in her surveys lol? There's so much stuff here. I don't see sexuality conversion there either which was a big one for me but I guess I'm not as into it atm I dunno. Most of my kinks are always related to corruption and transformation in one form or another but mostly as an adult it's gender and/or sexuality related.

    Oh glasses is there though that's slightly male which is kinda surprising. I guess I'd just assume that one would be completely neutral or maybe slightly female I dunno.

    I just subscribed to this channel (literally while writing this post lol,) because I saw they were wearing glasses:





    They don't look like this in most of their videos and also haven't uploaded many videos lately. Tragic.

    Also their original music is very good:



    Back to the incredibly weird post.

    Women are very into guns sexually. Rapeplay recieving is very female and rapeplay giving is very male.

    I feel like the really taboo kinks listed are split 50/50 in terms of female and male preferred. The animal ones are actually mostly male preferred. The white woman thing was projection all along! No I don't know. Women are more into octopi and tentacles. Also a bunch are neutral.

    Sex with your own dead body is an overwhelmingly female kink apparently. But I'm guessing there was probably like 1-5 people into that or something lol. It's just a big more taboo than brother-brother incest. Somehow.

    Wait is that people having sex with your dead body or you having sex with your own dead body? Initially I imagined it as like myself having sex with my dead body which I'd prefer not to do (and also how but a lot of these are impossible so never mind lol,) along with having sex with dead bodies in general. I guess I don't mind too much if someone has sex with my dead body though as I said the other day that's pretty edgy. I don't think I'm into the idea of it in itself so much as the idea of exhibitionistically freaking people out and with minimal effort which is always a plus for me. I'm also very voyeuristic probably in relation to that. I also kind of like the idea of people with certain weird kinks. Hmm. I have mixed feelings about that one though. But I like it a bit I think. I'm going to say that's not sexual or borderline though because it's not like turning me on properly.

    I'm surprised burning is such a female one. In what context? I think my brother is into sex in burning places or something like that (vaguely remember that coming up once.) We're a very normal family. Actually we very rarely talk about sex, kinks etc and only on a few occasions in the last decade.

    I also like the idea of setting myself on fire to freak people out, but only if I didn't feel pain + could regenerate. Basically I just want to freak people out and also that's not sexual in this case. Doesn't do it for me.

    I would be interested in seeing non-binary results but also not since I think generally she found in some surveys they were closer to female kinks? But my own are kind of mixed and I'm more interested in learning about unique sexual interests that don't fall into male or female. Like are there any very non-binary kinks.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    You feminist who res are useless but dont worry soon you all will be killed
    That was barely English.

    I'm increasingly confused by the twitter rules. Not that I've ever reported anyone for anything but it seems fine to make statements like this but then Elon Musk tweeted something not long ago about how anyone making genocidal tweets will get banned or something like that but I'm guessing it's only against certain groups.

    This is disturbing...

    "Young men prefer playing video games over casual sex."
    I also prefer video games to casual sex.

    I guess it's disturbing because men are supposed to be predictable? I dunno.

    Lol I just stumbled on someone who I'm 90% sure used to post on another forum I was on. He used to have a photo of himself as his avatar there too and mentions something related to that in his twitter bio plus other stuff seems familiar. I remember back then he posted that he wanted to try and make his daughters lesbians but otherwise I think he was pretty right wing and he has anti-woke in his bio now which is ironic.



    She actually did the insinuation thing from It's Always Sunny:





    Honestly this seems like bait but if she's serious it's probably because they haven't been dating long and she has an avoidant attachment style and/or she's not attracted to them. Actually I dunno if she's romantically connected to them it would be weird if she's not. 'Seeing' implies it is though I think.

    Thinking about it she should try dating a cryptobro:

    Convinced my wife to sell her engagement ring for more #Bitcoin.

    Ask me anything.
    Do you have a divorce lawyer?

    Peak capitalism. Although his bio was like 'hold my beer' lol:

    Helping the Church learn Bitcoin while Building a Movement of Jesus Maximalists to conquer the dark pagan wastelands. Join us!!!
    Oh really?

    That's going to be held against you someday. That's how women think. Bad move.
    Depends on how good she is at larping in that pragmatic cynical mindset. Americans seem very materialistic though so it probably depends on how much money they get.

    She wears no ring because we don't care about rings or jewelry
    Lol, you jelly that my wife is bullish and not a vain girl who loves glitter?

    😂
    That sentiment would mean more if you weren't chasing bitcoin and bragging about doing this for some reason on social media. It's all very:



    They are like human places but they are not within the human context. They are empty and give the impression of being infinite. Our brain thinks something is wrong.
    Here me out. The meme we must popularize is Bitcoin Marriage Proposals: A man worth her hand should propose only once he's pledged a certain amount of Bitcoin (say for example at least 0.1 BTC or the equivalent to their mutual current basic expenses for a 3 month period) in a cold storage multisig wallet, or some service for this purpose. Then and only then he should dare asking her to marry him. That's the marketing campaign the diamond industry did back then and it worked like a charm. This could be the beginning of something great, that instills in couples a sense of sacrifice and commitment but also a first step for building generational wealth together with an asset that guarantees their future freedom preserving their bond. Ok #Bitcoin community make this happen
    This is starting to sound like a cult.

    I don't like diamonds. I am of course a cynical rootless millennial we killed that industry or something:

    In June 2016, The Economist asked in a now-famous tweet: "Why aren't millennials buying diamonds?" Pithy replies included "You mean, besides the crippling debt?" and "Because you can?t live in a diamond or eat a diamond."

    After all, Millennials No. 1 source of money stress is debt.

    But jokes aside, The Economist noted that ?young consumers increasingly shun the taint of conflict and exploitation" -- perhaps a reason sales for De Beers and Tiffanys have dropped (11% and 4%, respectively).

    Or, it might just be the fact that Millennials are delaying marriage, and therefore not buying diamond rings. The median age for a first marriage is now 29 for men and 27 for women ? more than seven years later than it was in the 1950s.
    Bismuth is cooler:



    But you've done the inconvincible and made diamonds more appealing by comparison to bitcoin.

    It's just a symbol, and a depreciating one at that. High time preference for acquiring BTC is prudent right now, as is low time preference for trading it once acquired. Serious volatility is more likely to go up than down over the next two years. This will support their marriage.
    That's really sweet.



    Lol why does this exist:



    This an entire meme series I guess:

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    What if we're God living out our worst nightmare?
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    Reading a bunch of reddit threads about various sexual things again lol. I feel bad for people who are into stuff that's common in porn but essentially impossible to find irl and sometimes they don't even realise due to it involving minorities how rare it is because they don't talk to anyone from the group involved even online (or read posts/watch videos with them talking/anything really,) and they also don't understand enough about sexuality to know. So they still think it's maybe possible and basically it's never gonna happen lol.

    You can't help what you're into, and I'm also into a bunch of stuff that would be impossible irl (I mean mind control is literally impossible lol. I also find it hot when guys ask to be impregnated but they can't be if they're cis guys + I don't have male reproductive anatomy. Other stuff I'm into is rare like most men want to top with feminine afab people and I don't want to bottom etc.) But it helps to know.

    This is a really good example (it's kind of the reverse of my issue) he talks about how he has a fantasy of being cuckolded by a trans woman but he'd also want to be involved with her sexually:

    We have found that it's hard enough to find a trans girl that is into it what I want. Most of the ones we have found want to be the bottom to a guy, and the top to the girl. I am sure there are some out there, we just haven't been able to find them... yet. Maybe someday.
    And to think, we're in one of the top 5 populated places in the USA.
    It's going to be almost impossible. Obviously in trans porn trans women are always topping but in reality straight trans women are almost exclusively bottoms from what I've noticed and [BEEP] trans women are usually uninterested in topping men if they're into topping at all. There are way more afab people into topping guys ime (any gender identity. There are evidently more cis women into pegging than men according to that survey I looked at yesterday lol,) or masculine cis gay men.

    I see this sentiment with some trans women where it's like 'what's the point of having sex with a masculine guy if he's not going to top you?' Some are not even that into masculine guys they just like the idea of a certain kind of sexual dynamic. But then other trans women are more into men but the idea of topping makes them dysphoric or insecure and it's just not their preference. Maybe they'd do it if it was an occasional thing and meant they could be in a relationship with a guy they really like but they don't want to. That's another opinion I've seen.

    I think I came across one trans woman online on YouTube who identified as asexual and said after going on hrt her preferences changed from being exclusively into masculine guys to being into twinks, feminine guys, trans guys, trans women uh maybe cis women too but mostly into androgyny and I think maybe she expressed an interest in topping but she also said she was asexual in videos from what I remember so kind of mixed messages and deleted that video later possibly because it was too personal or she changed her mind. Or maybe getting lots of messages about topping lol. I found this very interesting though because it's a preference/sexuality I've seen a bunch of afab people - often non-binary or trans masc have and talk about. So that was very interesting to me because it seems less common in trans women.

    I know there's a lot of trans women out there who are basically into femboys, trans women and cis women (and quite a lot would probably prefer trans women and femboys, but some are into cis women too,) and some of these trans women are switches but then if you're too masculine or you don't crossdress etc that group will be less into you.

    Cis women who are into guys are usually into more masculine guys compared to those trans women who are often lesbian-adj when they're interested in topping (not talking about the ones who are into really masculine guys and like to bottom,) and there are cis women like that too who are into women and femboys and often id as lesbian - not talking about bisexual women this is kind of different and that is a minority. So most cis women who are into topping will be into topping guys they're into including the more masculine guys at a slightly higher rate I think. There are differences there too because trans women are expected to top with their dick whereas cis women don't have a dick so they're using a strap on. (I bet there's a cis woman out there somewhere who found a surgeon to give her a phalloplasty but you know I'm not talking about unicorns either lol.) You're still talking about a minority either way though.

    I'm non-binary though and have some interest in topping - it's something I fantasise about occasionally and like in porn etc - and I think I'm probably into more masculine guys then the lesbian-adj women are (cis and trans,) but still there's a limit there and I'm very picky in general lol... It got worse with age too.

    Then also cis gay men are usually into masculine guys - very masculine guys often (that's kind of a stereotype. possibly overstated but I think it's still reasonably common) - and a bunch of them are switches or like topping and a bunch of them also like topping masculine guys cause they're into masculine guys. But that's probably not what he's looking for. Like the specific combination a lot of people want is someone very feminine who looks like a feminine woman but has a dick So cis gay men won't work generally unless they're femboys and then it loops back into straight trans women's sexual preferences again where they're generally into bottoming but not exclusively though I've heard. It's hard to get numbers for a lot of this stuff because people don't do enough research. Yet it's very important. It's annoying. But in research there is a connection between femininity in gay men and preferring to bottom.

    Then in this context cause it's a cuckold thing they also kind of want this person to have a dominant sort of sexuality where they specifically want to compete with men where it's like 'I'm better than you and I'm going to steal your wife but I'm feminine. Look how pathetic you are in comparison even to me I'm going to get your wife pregnant etc.' either that or they're a rare person who is scared that femininity is superior to masculinity so they're insecure about not being feminine but that's going to be very rare for a cis guy. Usually it would probably be more like 'I'm being cucked by the most feminine person with a dick imaginable how humiliating for my masculinity.' But there has to be something like that I think otherwise it's just a threesome right? I feel like there has to be that power dynamic. But I do know some people who say they're into cuckold stuff seem to be more voyeurs because the appeal is just focussing on their wives pleasure and I feel like that's a distinct sexual interest that's sperate from the humiliation thing.

    So I see the appeal in that (but I don't have the equipment, and it's not really a big turn on for me anyway. It's more of a non-sexual power fantasy + it's adj to other interests I have with sexuality conversion fetish stuff + impregnation kink, can also see the appeal in like 'I'm going to turn your girlfriend into my lesbian girlfriend and get her pregnant masculine men are unnecessary' but I'm not sure if I'm interested in roleplaying that in real life anyway and I am more into the idea of turning a guy into my lesbian girlfriend atm tbh.) Some lesbian women might be into that and maybe some straight guys who are into being feminine might see an appeal in that. Some people there seemed to be OK with femboys so:

    My gf wants to [BEEP] a femboy/crossplayer so thats halfway there
    Yeah that sounds equally great lol
    But with most of those groups they're not going to want to also [BEEP] the guy in that situation.

    I really think Taylor Swift is in a great position to maximise on this dynamic. I mean it's just. They're so mad lol. Not since Justin Bieber have I seen so many rustled jimmies.

    But she wouldn't be into that lol. Unless she is I don't know her but Gaylors very much want to know lmfao. (If she's gay not that fetish lol.)

    So, Billie Eilish apparently came out. Here's a link with her and an adorbs Variety reporter (who identifies as LGB) flirting their butts off. So cute! 😂

    Will it move the needle for other celebs, including Taylor? Maybe. Billie used the "I thought everybody knew!" line, which, if Taylor ever comes out in any form (bisexual or otherwise), I fully expect her to invoke. Like "didn't Me, Dress, or--for the love of all that's holy--You Need to Calm Down clue you in?"
    That was always kind of very obvious with Billie though wasn't it?

    LOL:

    "No I didn't" Eilish said. "But I kind of thought, 'Wasn't it obvious'? I didn't realize people didn't know. I just don't really believe in it. I'm just like, 'Why can't we just exist'? I've been doing this for a long time, and I just didn't talk about it. Whoops."
    Apparently she said in some video she was straight once though or something I dunno. I'm not super into her music because it's a bit 'dead sounding' I quite like this track though:



    I also don't like some of the comments she's made about men. I always connected to her vibe though.



    Also the neon green. I was really into neon green specifically when I was a teenager still kind of like various shades of green:



    She's always been very lesbian coded. From her style to some of her MVs (Lost Cause), to (as others have pointed out) her filters and little flirty hints to women. I've always assumed she is bi and would eventually come out. She was SO young when she blew up so it makes sense it took her a while to get there. Everything about her style and aesthetic is very tilted toward the female gaze.
    I disagree she's stereotypically bisexual. Or one of the bisexual stereotypes. (Basically hard femme although only loosely.) You're not supposed to notice patterns though lol. Obviously they don't apply 100% of the time.

    1. The dyed hair + really long hair + nails + colours. This photo lol:



    2. Edgy. Satan stuff. 'I'm a bad guy':



    3. The spiders:



    It's all like 'I'm evil/dark triad shit.'

    So either 'I'm non-binary and bisexual' or 'I'm bisexual' would be the assumption. I still don't think she's labelled her sexuality (which is fine.) Just talking about stereotypes. Like:



    They're genderfluid and pansexual I think. Similar aesthetic.



    You said your girlfriend wanna marry you
    But now she's here with me


    Tell me, tell me, who's gonna restrain me now?


    Oh wait yeah she had long blue hair and worked with Grimes....



    Quote Grimes
    legit love hentai. have a fake twitter and insta just to look at nice illustrations beautiful naked blue hair girls.
    I didn't say anything. Tbf she also said this:

    Illustations of things always better than real things
    That song came out 2 years after she tweeted that during the pandemic + they probably didn't even meet in person lol. It's just funny.



    "Being a [BEEP] is my kink."

    A lot of her lyrics are very fuckboy and always with the lyrics about stealing guys' girlfriends (see now I'm back on topic with this post actually.)

    I'ma blow up on 'em
    Blow up on 'em
    Blow a kiss to your girl


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGEgz2cMa4c

    Me and your girlfriend playin' dress up at my house
    I gave your girlfriend cunnilingus on my couch
    She cute, kawaii, hentai boobies, that excites me
    I think she really likes me, asked politely, can I (woo-hoo)
    (Ooh, woo-ooh, woo-ooh) slumber party
    (Ooh, woo-ooh, woo-ooh) slumber party
    (Ooh, woo-ooh, woo-ooh) slumber party
    (Ooh, woo-ooh, woo-ooh) slumber party


    Why is it always someone else's girlfriend Ashnikko? :')

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luZyMQjPTkM

    Actually her actual girlfriend Arlo Parks is bisexual but could be described as 'lesbian coded' coincidentally (because she has a soft butch aethsetic.)

    Ashnikko wrote about being embarrassed by a lot of her older music and she was writing about unpleasant ex relationships etc. It's a persona obviously but certain people lean into it a lot.

    Lesbians are like (again stereotypically):





    ^ lol I see that finally got age restricted after all this time.







    A lot more soft stereotypically. Less defensive.

    And (going back to topic before derailed by Billie Eilish/LGBT culture shit) I mean I feel bad for them but also it's like good god read some posts by trans women some time or something. Cause it's not just this guy. I feel like a lot of them don't even realise that trans women are generally not into topping which is bizarre. Because you'd assume by default most wouldn't be right? Because of gender dysphoria and because most women don't like topping but OK whatever. You think trans women think like cross dressing straight men who are also open to fucking cis guys. Amazing. Definitely need sex education in school...

    And this is such a common problem now but I'm not going to go on a rant about the whole "white women prefer black guys and are always cucking their white male partners because they're not masculine enough." BS again. It really grinds my gears lol.

    And now we've reached the level of discourse where it's accepted by some guys that white women all want to [BEEP] their dogs. It's mind blowing.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I can't help but feel like most of this is performance art and satire at this point since it's obviously a response to PUA guys. Perhaps even when it isn't it still is. They're just not conscious of that. I don't mean specifically the example in this video I mean the pink pill/female dating strategy ideology thing.



    Obviously female psychopathy takes many forms but it's weird that it took like... 5 years before they became visible online. PUA goes way back of course but the current online discourse manosphere thing blew up sometime in the early 2010s (as in that's when it started to become unavoidable and pop up in unrelated places.) And for a really long time it was just PUA's fighting with feminists, [BEEP] people and adj left wing groups (but to many people we're all psychopaths and narcissists anyway lol but there are flavours.)

    In other words it was all Dennis and no Dee for a weirdly long amount of time:











    It's literally like that listening/reading the [BEEP] these people say lol.

    Imagine a 'pink pilled' woman and a 'red pilled' guy being in a relationship with eachother? would be the most toxic thing ever where they constantly gaslight eachother 😂
    They really do deserve each other.

    Lol I forgot about this. Amazing:

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    This guy has a really lovely voice but I'm not that into the scripts/stuff he says. I was looking for new audio stuff and I saw this one thing which obviously used the word mommy (which I don't care for lol as I've said so many times now..) And it had no comments yet since it was new but I was reading the description and he sounded cute and was using lots of cute emojis so I clicked anyway and his voice is really cute. I realise that him doing that was probably purposefully designed to manipulate people parasocially to listen (also said his 'dms were open,') but whatever lol.

    So I looked through his other audio stuff and it was mostly dominant stuff because he's a switch (I mean he said that in the description of one of his audio files,) I listened to some of his dominant stuff just in case but the scripts of a lot of the stuff wasn't really working for me. I do like his voice a lot though.

    With the dom stuff I was intrigued because a lot of them had tags about possessiveness etc and he has this kind of gentle voice not that kind of 'dom voice' that a lot of guys do which turns me off and also some of his moans were nice even then, but the scripts still didn't work and he was repeating himself a lot. I don't really like the whole 'you're a sex toy' thing that's so seemingly common and popular either from the dom or sub pov it's not my thing. Mostly when I read fiction etc I like stuff with jealousy though (either gender,) because it's more related to my monogamy kink. So I guess I'm more into possessiveness in connection with that and outside of that it's not appealing.

    Also a lot of his stuff even the submissive stuff features impregnation but like talking about getting the listener pregnant which I'm not into. I prefer when guys talk about themselves getting pregnant which is incredibly rare obviously.

    there was this one audio from a while ago where he was also submissive though and I started listening to that and there was this one part lol where he was like:

    "You want me inside me? I mean inside you."

    Which was obviously a mistake but I was like 'no you were closer the first time.'

    Tease.

    😒😂

    In the end I gave up and just went back to the sissy audio stuff I listened to with the woman speaking about the guy being transformed into a sex slave for this woman's army, and the other one that has a kind of weird bisexual threesome dynamic with a bunch of gay sex stuff by the same woman. And it's very frustrating that it's easier to use voyeuristic stuff like this to 'achieve results' (it takes minutes honestly,) then something at least slightly more realistic. Like I have managed to use other stuff or was a few months ago. But it's just too difficult to find stuff with the right dynamics in basic hererosexual audio content and that keeps working over time honestly.

    I bookmarked some of that guys stuff though so I can look back from time to time because I really liked his voice.

    So thinking about this video again:

    Quote Nyctophilia View Post
    I can't help but feel like most of this is performance art and satire at this point since it's obviously a response to PUA guys. Perhaps even when it isn't it still is. They're just not conscious of that. I don't mean specifically the example in this video I mean the pink pill/female dating strategy ideology thing.

    She is right that women like to share stuff. I think people in general do because Humans are social animals but I think especially women and that's the reason they do stuff like this lol:



    (I don't mean the psychopathic trollish posts included in the video lol but the other stuff.)

    I think people like to communicate bad stuff to warn people, and communicate stuff they find positive to promote stuff instinctively.

    Also Shoe points the self depreciating humour thing at the end which I think is definitely part of it. It's definitely partly ironic comedy. Sometimes you're just like 'lol my life/brain is insane.'

    However the example that woman uses in the pink pill video with posting instagram photos is not really the same since often there's the intention of eventually making money from selling sex, or at least wanting sexual attention, and you mostly get positive attention from doing it (I am aware there's a mass sex negative cultural backlash going on now in particular, and that lots of people get annoyed but in their comments section I know it's mostly positive comments on these kind of posts.) There's a separate motivation I think. But I do understand the idea of like wanting to sort of document your life to some extent which I suppose instagram might do for some people like visual blogging. I prefer writing about my thoughts though because I'm old school.

    I did try briefly uploading vlogs at one point years ago but I think if that ever blew up that would have been really bad. I only posted them on another forum. I've made them all private now. The only video on that channel that really got much attention besides live concert footage was one I posted where I talked about a concert I went to (so technically more concert stuff but it was a vlog instead of just recording of a concert.) Having seen what happens to people I don't imagine I'd ever do that or anything like that now. I have multiple YouTube channels but don't post anything about my life there or anything that personal.

    But for example I post lots of unnecessary tmi type stuff on this forum, and I don't really want attention when I do that... It's more like a compulsion to share stuff. This has become more common with social media and a lot of people think it's predominantly influenced by social media but for me it predates the popularity of social media.

    Like back in the 2000s when I was a teenager I would always feel compelled to talk about things I really liked whether that was music I became obsessed with, video games, or people I liked and/or found attractive. I had to actively repress the urge to do this sometimes. And I also liked lots of weird stuff so obviously couldn't talk about that irl.

    One time when I was about 13 I became obsessed with this older girl who had glasses (I know what is it about the glasses?) and a Green Day hoody. I wasn't attracted to her I don't think, but it was weird because a lot of the emotions were the same as I usually get with guys I get crushes on but I feel like there was still a difference. That was the only time I remember developing a potentially platonic fixation irl with someone. So I thought she was very cool and my brother and other people I knew had spoken to her but I never did it was just from a distance because of my social anxiety. And at one point I kept talking about that with my dad and he expressed that he found that weird.

    On another occasion I was pretty excited about this new teacher I had for graphics because he seemed cool and I liked the lesson or something so I was talking about him to my mum and then she pointed out that I was repeating myself (this was a single occasion but I guess I just kept talking because I wasn't getting some reaction I wanted.)

    So I think I probably wanted attention at one point for these things and part of me still does, but it's also very uncomfortable to get attention from most people or most forms of attention, so I prefer to talk to myself most of the time unless I'm talking with someone similar who is 'safe.' I found people like that on another forum but I was banned and also what I do is quite annoying. Pretty sure I have undiagnosed ADHD or autism or something. I also used to post a lot on livejournal for years at one point in the 2000s and nobody ever responded to anything and I kept doing it anyway so to my mind it's the same thing.

    Also in that shoe video at one point she mentions a news article where a woman talks about getting 20k plastic surgery and still not being able to find a guy:



    UNLUCKY IN LOVE I spent 20k on plastic surgery to try to get a man but it hasn't worked, I've been single for 7 years
    A MODEL has revealed how she has been single for seven years as guys are 'too scared' to ask her out - despite her spending 20,000 [pounds] on plastic surgery.
    So personally yeah I think she does look more attractive on the left. I've gone through phases where I've looked up women who have an image kind of like the one on the right (I mean the blond photo,) although I don't find those proportions attractive exactly because they look off to me like she's wearing a corset which isn't my thing personally but definitely like conventionally blond, big breasts 'bimbo' aesthetic kind of images and I read bimbo erotica and stuff like that too or did because as I say I'm not into that as much atm. I might go back to it again at some point I go through phases.

    But yeah it's not romantically attractive imo. I'm also not very romantically attracted to women though so my opinion on that is kind of trash. I'm mostly romantically attracted to men. Normally if I feel anything romantic for a woman it's either some fictional character where there's an older woman with glasses, or it's some guy with glasses who has been genderswapped. Someone else I find attractive who has been genderswapped.. But kind of nerdy vibes. Or androgynous in a very particular super specific niche way. Her I guess too:



    You know someone [BEEP] women probably obsess over and men shame into getting plastic surgery. And then they still won't date her lol... Not that anyone dates anyone anymore, that's what the internet is for, but you know.

    I have very mixed feelings about Michelle Gomez it's so weird lol. Like sometimes she's hot to me, then sometimes she's not. Have not watched that show that the gif is from lol but I watched The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (she plays Lilith in that,) and she kind of broke my brain while watching it because my brain was literally confused. Like some kind of optical illusion.

    Also Aurora is kinda cute and not really my type at all. I just like that she's bisexual (I think?) empathetic, and music:



    There was a male musician who had a somewhat similar aesthetic I guess who I was into as a teenager Patrick Wolf with the kind of magical/fantasy woodland vibes. I don't know how to put it. (I mean he based a bunch of his stuff off of like Kate Bush, and it was more masculine and he had a different personality to her, but kind of androgynous, youthful, I fucking hate that I have bring up this trope but I guess it's kind of like manic pixie dream boy/girl a bit. Probably somewhat influenced by the fact he was questioning if he was gay or bisexual at the time.) So I think that's sort of why she somewhat appeals to me. It's still significantly removed but I can see the connections.

    Same with the music (+glasses she looks attractive in this video during the glasses parts and when she has that kind of almost creepy smile with the bright light):



    Make music. That is my opinion. I speak for all men. And women. Even though I'm non-binary and mostly into guys. I'm always correct. (No lol. But I do think that that aesthetic is not romantically appealing to most guys because it signals certain things but there are some men really into plastic surgery and will have relationships with or marry women with that aesthetic. I also think if you have a certain personality type doing that just to be attractive is a terrible idea though because... You're signalling something entirely different. I don't know her though obviously.)

    I think this is the same person:

    Celine Centino, 26, is an Instagram influencer who spent years being told she 'looked like a boy' - but is finally happy after getting three boob jobs and a nose job

    She continued: "In school I was bullied every day, they said stupid thing to me like 'you look like a boy' or that my nose was so big."

    "I didn't had any friends in school and I didn't want to go to school anymore.

    "But I always tried to act strong as if I didn't mind the insults, because I didn't want to cause problems for my family."
    Don't listen to guys they have terrible taste in women. And in men unless they're Simon Amstell.

    In fact everyone has terrible taste.

    This one Japanese-American married couple have great taste everyone else's is trash (no lol they're cute though and she's really pretty and mentioned liking nature and stuff and that she wanted to live in a tree house. Also I'm not into him but he's a cat guy and cooks which are huge pluses):





    Wait I forgot he also said his dream when he was a kid was to work in a flower shop.

    "You're such a shoujo manga character"

    EXACTLY.

    Yeah they're both really into plants lol. Also she likes dragons which is also cool. I stumbled on their channel again recently + their new channel cause someone posted their channel on reddit. Hadn't watched any of their videos for like a decade before then lol.



    Obviously it being me I stumbled on their channel again in a less than ideal area of the internet:

    I like them, but i can't help but notice they break many conventional American gender norms within their relationship:

    Rachel is a commissioned officer in the USAF, and Jun seems to be the stay at home husband who does most of the cooking and cleaning.

    Do you think Jun is a good example of what it means to redefine Asian masculinity?
    Another point i wanted to add is I have been following Rachel and Jun for a long time. Rachel is indeed a feminine woman, just because she's an Air Force officer does NOT mean she's some kind of gruff looking, man hating lesbian! And Jun, while a master chef and interior decorator is FAR from being effeminate...
    Also he doesn't look effeminate at all, dude looks at least six feet tall as well. I don't know where that is coming from. They are a well-matched couple. The woman also looks and talks almost hyper-feminine compared to girls nowadays. Surprise, normal women do serve in the armed forces without being lesbian or butch or whatever.
    Great.... Straight men online are constantly posting homophobic stuff, and comments about butch women and then wonder why they hate them lol. Ime though it's more bisexual and straight women who hate men. Especially non-conforming straight and bisexual women (and I don't wonder why.) After all consider this post in its entirety and the comments that led to that woman getting so much plastic surgery.

    exactly, too man people make the mistake here of trying to be "alpha" but the issue is this is ultimately a capitulation to western standards. True masculinity resides in being comfortable in who you are and not giving a [BEEP] what everyone else thinks. Instead of trying so hard to be a 2nd rate version of somebody else, just be the best version of yourself. Embrace your heritage, and your culture.
    *American.

    As an Asian American man who spent a brief moment of my life in my country's military, I can promise you that being an alpha is not a concept or an intangible theory. It is definitely a real thing...when you are fighting a war, or fighting in the streets! And in a survival scenario, someone has to take charge and control the situation, or people are going to get hurt.

    But if you are not at war or training for war there is no need to be an "alpha" in the privacy of your home, or when you are alone with your woman.

    The energy you would have with your worst enemy? Would you have that same energy when you are alone with the woman of your dreams?
    Well there is a bit of a gender war going on lol. And most people don't get a dream partner.

    Centino has plenty of admirers online.

    She has nearly 675,000 Instagram followers, many of whom are men who would love nothing more than a chance to date her. However, while these men help her make a living by selling content online, they're not filling the lonely space in her heart.
    Centino would love nothing more than a loving boyfriend and a long-term relationship, but men can't bring themselves to approach her. "I'll be out with my friends and guys will be watching, looking at me like they want to eat me, but when I give them a little smile to invite them over they never come," she explained. "Sometimes if we're in a club and there's a lot of alcohol they might say hello and chat to me but they're normally so drunk I can't be bothered."
    She said: "I think that my appearance is what men like I get a lot of confirmation it's through my appearance that I am seen as a sex object, but when men get to know me better they know that I am not just that."

    And, her friends and family agree as Celine claims that her surgeries have changes her looks but not who she is inside.

    The model added: "They are happy when I am happy."
    While a few guys have actually approached her and asked her out, when they go on the actual date, it all fizzles out pretty quickly. "They're always a little shy and timid at first but normally once we get chatting and see that I'm nice, they relax a bit," she revealed. "I think it's really cute when they're nervous at first. Guys always say that I have a strong aura and that when I walk into a room they can sense my presence even without seeing me."
    I think part of the problem is men don't necessarily like women they find sexually arousing. Sometimes they even have contempt for them (men also sometimes hate their sexuality,) and also when you post certain images and have a certain aesthetic you attract large followings of men who are just into you sexually and that turns some guys off. Like I've read three articles about this woman and still know nothing about her other than that she's a model on instagram. Additionally I did go over to her instagram and I notice that her proportions are quite exaggerated via plastic surgery moreso than even the above image shows (or maybe she had more surgery later.)

    So most of the comments she's getting are positive but there are some conflicting messages:

    you're very close too being perfect🥺
    🤔🤔🤢🤢🤢
    Plastic Kum dumpster/304
    Can we go on a date together love, I promise I'm different just one time and I qill show you ik the best in the stock market
    Literally the only female I follow on social media just for her goddamn beauty. 😍
    I feel like she probably gets asked out, even on instagram, but the guys who ask her out are a very particular kind of guy who she's not attracted to.

    There's lots of people spamming emojis.

    Some of these guys are not... Intelligent to say the least and many of them can barely speak English and perhaps it's not their first language (it's not her first language either,) but still weird things like:

    huuuuummm Celine beauty Darling me l❤️ve l❤️ve l❤️ve y ❤️u hi ty be ❤️uty be ❤️uty fesses b ❤️by ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
    I can't imagine that being attractive to any woman honestly. It's not even legible.

    So basically if I had to guess she reads these comments and loses respect for men.

    Shawty caked up like a Bakery 🔥
    Hey CC can borrow a cup of sugar, I know you got some over there!👅👅👅
    It reminds me of that cosplayer instagram account I stumbled on with the woman who very convincingly cosplayed as male characters and the comments were like 'choke me' etc over and over. That's got to have a sclerotic effect. But, I think most things have that effect on people now anyway.

    Then she just says she likes when guys are shy. I can imagine.

    I think the only time when I find it cute or amusing is when tumblr-adj people post weird stuff like this:

    his little smirk. he looks like a cute macaroni. he is perfect in every sense of the word.
    He acts like a ladybug would act
    He's so polite and awkward I want to eat him like a mantis 😭😭
    This is inspirational mostly (because they were talking about Geddy Lee and actually that's cute):

    His hair is so beautiful, I want to strew pearls and diamonds in it and tell him how lovely he is. (I just ate an edible and read some Baudelaire poetry.)
    I guess we can't all be poets lol.

    Reminds me of this:





    According to the CD info there's no girl singing on any tracks. It's most likely Chris singing in a high pitch.
    No his high pitched vocals are different. I'm pretty sure that's Sue Denim (during the parts where there are 2 voices.) She sings on a bunch of the tracks during that era and they worked together on a bunch of stuff, and she's in a lot of the early - mid 2000s videos.



    I guess this is an early version of President:





    She's in the Missile video too I think (the one that pearl gif is from,) but I don't know if I'm going to post music videos that are softcore porn or not.

    I like this cover a lot too (I also really like this painting actually):



    And... Afaik they were in a relationship but then obviously broke up so she disappeared.

    Also she was in some episodes of The Mighty Boosh lol (because they all used to hang out together in London and I think Noel used to play at some IAMX concerts.) The Electro Boy song was great:



    People, please stop encouraging this. This woman is beautiful without modification. Stop glorifying the idea that making yourself look fake is more attractive
    Give me a Break that is the most distorted disproportioned form of the human female anatomy, you and all the others are REALLY Pathetic for not knowing the difference
    Lol. Their comment (and similar comments) are contradicted by the evidence and she would not be as attractive to men if she stayed how she looked before and posted photos of herself. However, she couldn't find a long term partner either way I guess.

    The model added: "I want to make my boobs a little bit smaller and to look more natural, but at this point I feel so good in my body and I'm really happy.
    Eventually she'll get the balance right or something I guess. But yeah if she's happy it doesn't matter I guess.

    The curvy babe has been single for the last seven years but claims men definitely like her for more than her looks
    I would think we don't have anything in common and it is intimidating yeah. But I'm like a loser who was also bullied in school and had weird comments made about my nose, height, got compared to Samara from The Ring, some guy at uni asked why I acted like a guy etc.

    I dunno though I find Alexis attractive but there's some kind of subtle difference in vibe (also might just be because she's funny because it's a comedy) also she's slim and has that 70sish aesthetic which is cute and yeah she's still ultimately quirky it's quite important to me:



    And she has eyebrows (I mean I like her eyebrows lol,) and looks like a model. Also this gif (I like that eyeliner(?) I guess):





    Daniel said these anecdotes were partially based on his life. Dear god, I am dying to know which ones apply to him. 😂😂😂
    Lol what that's insane.

    Also I'm definitely going to watch this video soon lol:

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    One of the most underrated mercies very few governments offer

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    Reality is what beliefs lead to behavior that allows those beliefs to flourish.
    "When I know that I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I know that I am everything, that is love. Between the two my life moves." - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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    Quora is wild lol.

    What would happen if there is a real war between men and women?
    Women would be rapidly defeated and enslaved. See Islam.
    Nope, it would be an end to the human race.
    I think so. For starters Islam wasn't the outcome of a war between men and women and Islamic women are not enslaved many of them embrace that religion. If men and women were actually fighting a war then you wouldn't be able to coerce or manipulate women because they would be single mindedly focussed on your destruction because you're the enemy. This guy is also weirdly assuming in this scenario that the end goal involves men wanting something from women still.

    Ultimately in this scenario most women would probably end up killed or commit suicide, anyone remaining would go into hiding and avoid men (in fact avoiding men is probably what most women would do in this scenario in the first place,) and the Human race would die out unless you've invented artificial wombs and a way to turn sperm cells into egg cells in this scenario. Which we're pretty close to doing I think technologically speaking.

    It would be interesting to compare the results with and without testosterone though. Since obviously women could take testosterone and other steroids but then so can men. The sensible thing to do if you're afab and have to fight is obviously to go on testosterone though.

    Also there are women who worry about the invention of artificial wombs and such because they believe that it will lead to the disposability of women and so various bad things will occur ranging from 'I won't be fuckable anymore' to 'they're going to put us in concentration camps and enslave us'

    But OK if you believe that don't you want to test the hypothesis? What's the quote...

    "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

    That's Napoleon. No I haven't watched the movie. I've seen a handful of negative reviews and I don't watch films anymore.

    What. Is this guy just writing a story as a response?:

    During all the preceding centuries of human history, no civil war or internecine strife was so ultimately puzzling, ill-conceived or destructive as the Genderstrife of the 21st century.

    It is hard to define the point at which "hot war" broke out. Women had grown used to such sentiments as "men are useless" and "you don't need a penis to shoot a rifle", and it appears as though there was a sudden tipping-point reached at which outright violence became a preferred option. Times and places are hard to ascertain now, even at so few years? remove, and it is doubtful that further study will lend greater clarity.

    Buoyed up by such thoughts as those above, and similar dicta such as "The female of the species is more deadly than the male", women hit the ground running and delivered stunning setbacks to their arrogant menfolk before the dullards even realized the shooting had started. Women's communication skills, honed by aeons of practice and a social climate that encouraged blaming and shaming of males, succeeded in obfuscating the true picture for a surprisingly long time. Strategically, women were encouraged to think of men as almost entirely dispensable for any purpose that could not be fulfilled for years to come by a sperm bank, and their historic willingness to show absolute ruthlessness to a disadvantaged foe stood them in good stead.

    However, wars are won by logistics. Also by strategy and tactics, which were traditional male strengths soon brought to bear against women once the need became obvious, and at this point it became apparent that men had numerous advantages. They had nearly all the military strategists and game theorists; they had nearly all the engineers and heavy industry experts; they even had nearly all the mechanics, gunsmiths, and electricians. In short, as long as women were able to use previously-available stocks of food, fuel and ammunition, they could compete reasonably effectively - although less so once it was evident that an actual shooting war was in progress ? but as soon as stocks began to run low, they had far less ability to rectify the deficiencies.

    This became all the more apparent when the power grid and fuel distribution networks were closed down. Men had a near-monopoly not only on heavy haulage drivers but even on personnel who knew how to run a power station or repair high-tension cable. They also had a huge advantage in being able to cope when forced to rely on hand tools. Women without motor transport were restricted in how far they could travel and how much they could carry, and those who had scoffed at the idea of physical strength qualifications in the modern military - because it was foolish to suppose that there would be an issue with soldiers who would be too weak to lift a rifle ? soon learned that even for a modern infantryman there would always be severe requirements in terms of carrying spares, ammunition and other essentials. Not for nothing did a Great War rifleman go into action carrying sixty pounds of gear. Men were far more able to portage mortars and bombs, machine-guns and belts, and even throw grenades, and this translated into an ability to put firepower onto a target on a scale that, ceteris paribus, women simply could not match.

    More: men had a cultural background dating back millennia that allowed them to endure risks and hardships for the greater good, and a ruthlessness that could let a regiment be ordered to storm a strongly-held position in the knowledge that many would not survive but the objective be achieved. Men, far more readily than women, could close watertight doors to keep a ship from sinking and put the good of the whole crew above that of those unfortunates trapped below decks. And men had the history of surrendering their will and individuality to the unit, the company, the regiment, and the army, working as part of the whole and giving and taking orders no matter what the personal cost.

    Once the ammunition ran out and it came to primitive weapons, there was no more to be said. Women might have decried men?s physical strength as an irrelevance in an enlightened modern society, but in circumstances where "toxic masculinity" was, rather than a negative, an unquestionable foundation of strength and success, the case was altered beyond recognition. Men could rely on hitting harder with heavier weapons and even wearing more protective gear ? which, with primitive tools and facilities, they were far better to resupply than were women and this advantage could not be taken away from them.

    Once the ammunition ran out and it came to primitive weapons, there was no more to be said. Women might have decried men's physical strength as an irrelevance in an enlightened modern society, but in circumstances where "toxic masculinity" was, rather than a negative, an unquestionable foundation of strength and success, the case was altered beyond recognition. Men could rely on hitting harder with heavier weapons and even wearing more protective gear ? which, with primitive tools and facilities, they were far better to resupply than were women ? and this advantage could not be taken away from them.

    Ultimately it proved the case that for many of the remaining women ? by no means all, but for enough ? death was not after all preferable to dishonour and life at a heavy price was better than the alternative. In many respects the resulting society was poorer all round; but women were persuaded that, though their participation was necessary for childbearing, their cooperation was not, and they had better choose which course would comport best with the dignity that they had left. To many men this was repugnant. They were not forced to be any part of what had to follow; if they preferred chivalry to the survival of the species, they had earned the right not to make a further contribution to the gene pool. In the last analysis though, it seems clear that morality is not morality if extinction must result ? or if it is, it is self-defeating, because it breeds itself out of existence.

    In the post-bellum world, there is time for philosophical reflection. Was this part of the inevitable evolution of the species? Did Nature allow Man to grow only to bring us low again? What humanity might have been but for the Genderstrife must remain forever a mystery ? or, perhaps, only deferred for some tens of millennia until the time when such a technological peak is scaled again with, we can only hope, no renewal of the rancour between men and women.
    Fair enough lol. I appreciate the level of detail.

    And I got bored too hence the rest of this post (thankfully I managed to avoid referencing Wilhelm Reich):

    I would be on the front line to hand out some 'equality'.

    Only thing is that women run back to the kitchen when a war is about to start.

    This is not about rage,but survival.
    Working in factories, in construction, on farms, as nurses, clearing up your destruction, etc so you can have fun playing COD in real life and/or raping women yeah.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...-men-love-war/

    War is a brutal, deadly game, but a game, the best there is. And men love games. You can come back from war broken in mind or body, or not come back at all. But if you come back whole you bring with you the knowledge that you have explored regions of your soul that in most men will always remain uncharted. Nothing I had ever studied was as complex or as creative as the small-unit tactics of Vietnam. No sport I had ever played brought me to such deep awareness of my physical and emotional limits.
    "Girls just wanna have fun~"

    I suspect the gender war thing is kind of a modern replacement for some people much like COD.

    For all these reasons, men love war. But these are the easy reasons, the first circle the ones we can talk about without risk of disapproval, without plunging too far into the truth or ourselves. But there are other, more troubling reasons why men love war. The love of war stems from the union, deep in the core of our being between sex and destruction, beauty and horror, love and death. War may be the only way in which most men touch the mythic domains in our soul. It is, for men, at some terrible level, the closest thing to what childbirth is for women: the initiation into the power of life and death. It is like lifting off the corner of the universe and looking at what's underneath. To see war is to see into the dark heart of things, that no-man's-land between life and death, or even beyond.
    I just want to cut in here quickly and say that that's basically a Mussolini quote.

    I don't know if I killed anyone in Vietnam but I tried as hard as I could. I fired at muzzle flashes in tile night, threw grenades during ambushes, ordered artillery and bombing where I thought tile enemy was. Whenever another platoon got a higher body count, I was disappointed: it was like suiting up for the football game and then not getting to play. After one ambush my men brought back the body of a North Vietnamese soldier. I later found the dead man propped against some C-ration boxes; he had on sunglasses, and a Playboy magazine lay open in his lap; a cigarette dangled jauntily from his mouth, and on his head was perched a large and perfectly formed piece of shit.

    I pretended to be Outraged, since desecrating bodies was frowned on as un-American and counterproductive. But it wasn't outrage I felt. I kept my officer's face on, but inside I was... laughing. I laughed?I believe now--in part because of some subconscious appreciation of this obscene linkage of sex and excrement and 'death; and in part because of the exultant realization that he--whoever he had been--was dead and I--special, unique I me--was alive. He was my brother, but I knew him not. The line between life and death is gossamer thin; there is joy. true joy, in being alive when so many around you are not. And from the joy of being alive in death's presence to the joy of causing death is, unfortunately, not that great a step.
    Men not beating the allegations of being more into scat (according to that Aella survey lol.)

    Perhaps Slaanesh might enjoy that. But I don't know if amusement is enough.

    Slaanesh is said to have little interest in the other Ruinous Powers, being too caught up in its own pleasures to be interested in alliances or co-operation. However, the followers of Khorne with their boorish beliefs in bloodshed for its own sake are particular enemies. Cults dedicated to Khorne and Slaanesh clash frequently in the mortal realm just as their Daemonic legions are believed to battle endlessly in the Realm of Chaos.

    This relationship has an effect upon the nature of the armies dedicated to either god. Slaanesh's comparative weakness in direct confrontations is balanced by its endless capacity for corruption, often even leading Khorne's faithful astray through their own battle lust.
    😀

    Slaanesh can see its hand at work across the galaxy in countless ways. The joy a parent feels when a child is born, the pride a commodore feels when his fleet executes a cunning battle plan, the stirring of a lover's heart when in the embrace of a paramour, the heady rush of pleasurable relief that reminds a soldier how good it feels to be alive after an unexpected skirmish -- all of these sensations, on some small level, are pleasing to the Master of Delights.

    They are not enough. Though the decimation of the Aeldari and its pursuit of the remaining few of their species is a source of great joy to Slaanesh, it has much, much grander desires to fulfil. Every breath is an opportunity to take in a new scent. Each glass raised is a chance to savour a new flavour. On every battlefield, each chainsword blow can elicit a never before heard pain-filled scream.
    I thought so.

    That morning, as they were surveying what they had done and loading the dead NVA--all naked and covered with grease and mud so they could penetrate the barbed wire--on mechanical mules like so much garbage, there was a look of beatific contentment on tile colonel's face that I had not seen except in charismatic churches. It was the look of a person transported into ecstasy.

    And I--what did I do, confronted with this beastly scene? I smiled back. 'as filled with bliss as he was. That was another of the times I stood on the edge of my humanity, looked into the pit, and loved what I saw there. I had surrendered to an aesthetic that was divorced from that crucial quality of empathy that lets us feel the sufferings of others. And I saw a terrible beauty there. War is not simply the spirit of ugliness, although it is certainly that, the devil's work. But to give the devil his due, it is also an affair of great and seductive beauty.
    Most men who have been to war, and most women who have been around it, remember that never in their lives did they have so heightened a sexuality. War is, in short. a turn-on. War cloaks men in a coat that conceals the limits and inadequacies of their separate natures. It gives them all aura, a collective power, an almost animal force. They aren't just Billy or Johnny or Bobby, they are soldiers! But there's a price for all that: the agonizing loneliness of war, the way a soldier is cut off from everything that defines him as an individual--he is the true rootless man.
    I wonder if that's true or just what men like this tell themselves to excuse rape etc. But there are women who get off on similar stuff I guess. It wouldn't work for me unless by sexuality you mean your corruption.

    Either way I don't imagine this is very appealing for Western women:

    The uniform did that, too, and all that heightened sexuality is not much solace late it night when the emptiness comes.

    There were many men for whom this condition led to great decisions. I knew a Marine in Vietnam who was a great rarity, an Ivy League graduate. He also had an Ivy League wife, but lie managed to fall in love with a Vietnamese bar girl who could barely speak English. She was not particularly attractive, a peasant girl trying to support her family He spent all his time with her, he fell in love with her--awkwardly informally, but totally. At the end of his twelve months in Vietnam he went home, divorced his beautiful, intelligent, and socially correct wife and then went back to Vietnam and proposed to the bar girl, who accepted. It was a marriage across a vast divide of language, culture, race, and class that could only have been made in war. I am not sure that it lasted, but it would not surprise me if despite great difficulties, it did.
    These men have no use to Western women, and they have no use to me. The Americans lost in Vietnam and while they wait for something else to do (though there have been many wars since,) they engage in gender wars and go find an Asian wife, or talk about doing so. Not just Americans do that of course. There's a guy from Scotland who moved to Thailand and spends most of his time talking about how terrible western women and feminism is even though he's a chaser who is married to a Thai trans woman lol. He has many weird opinions besides that, does not like trans men or people like me lol, and I've fought with him before about that. Very unpleasant creature and not at all attractive, but not everyone has standards.

    But yes they abandon civilisation to go play war games. When you think about it, it's a form of role reversal. It definitely was back when women were generally less involved in all of the male spheres most of the time.

    Art and war were for ages as linked as art and religion. Medieval and Renaissance artists gave us cathedrals, but they also gave us armor sculptures of war, swords and muskets and cannons of great beauty, art offered to the god of war as reverently as the carved altars were offered to the god of love. War was a public ritual of the highest order, as the beautifully decorated cannons in the Invalids in Paris and the chariots with their depict ions of the gods in the Metropolitan Museum of Art so eloquently attest Men love their weapons, not simply for helping to keep them alive, but for a deeper reason. They love their rifles and their knives for the same reason that the medieval warriors loved their armor and their swords: they are instruments of beauty.
    Worshippers of Slaanesh are known for their complete lack of fear, as they see even losing a battle or their own lives as a new experience to be enjoyed. While not interested in the dirty warfare of Khorne's narrow-minded berserkers, Slaanesh does enjoy combat of the artistic sort, taking pleasure in watching extremely talented gladiator battles, where the act of fighting is transformed from a means to an end into an art form all its own.

    Slaanesh bestows its favour upon any who act on an interest for an art, whether the art is that of combat, of painting, of poetry or of passion. The favour of Slaanesh will aid the artist in creating, amplifying everything created to immeasurable levels, while at the same time corrupting them indescribably, such that any mortals who look on them are at once both entranced and terrified.
    😀

    And interestingly many of the earlier Gods of war were uh... Somewhat goddesses actually:

    Inanna[a] is the ancient Mesopotamian goddess of love, war, and fertility. She is also associated with beauty, sex, divine law, and political power. Originally worshiped in Sumer, she was known by the Akkadian Empire, Babylonians, and Assyrians as Ishtar[b] (and occasionally the logogram 𒌋𒁯). Her primary title was "the Queen of Heaven".
    Inanna is also an important figure in BDSM culture. The portrayal of Inanna in the Inanna and Ebih myth is cited as a precursor example of the dominatrix archetype, characterizing her as a powerful woman who forces gods and men to submit to her.[390] In mythology, Inanna's submissives danced in rituals while being whipped by her to satisfy her. When submissives asked for "mercy", Inanna ended the flagellation, making such an action the pioneer of the BDSM safeword concept.[390][391]
    The sexual identity of this goddess is controversial. In one late text, Ishtar says of herself: "I am a woman, I am a man." Ishtar could be viewed as a beautiful goddess of love who rules the day and as a bearded god(dess) of war who rules the night. It is claimed that the androgyny of Inanna/Ishtar provided a powerful symbol of the ambiguities of pure sexuality reflected in her cult, and in the transvestism of her cultic personnel (Groneberg 1986).
    'To destroy, to create, to tear out, to establish are yours, Inanna. / To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna.'
    And I still remember my lucid dream from 2020:

    Later (this skips some bits but I'm not great at remembering dreams as mentioned.) I was watching TV (only it was more like being online,) and this guy he'd posted this image of himself with like four photos and saying that he was a virgin at the time all these photos were taken but not the last one.

    And I was like 'WHAT THE **** YOU WERE A VIRGIN WHEN THE THIRD PHOTO WAS TAKEN BUT YOU'RE SO HOT' because he was like slim and had long black hair and was basically a hot goth.

    So anyway then the guy appears and we end up in my room but then it's not entirely clear if he's into me or not and then I'm also unsure how we can have sex, and then I look at him and he has a beard and I'm like 'oh no' because I want to date the goth guy but now he has a beard. (this is kind of a worrying pattern a while back I had a dream that this singer shaved his hair off and got really upset in the dream like he'd died or something :') it wasn't him in this dream btw the goth guy looked very different. I basically only sexualise myself, women, Asian guys and goths in my dreams or specific people.) Yeah I'm really shallow but I also think it's symbolic in some way, but mostly shallow.

    Then a bit later I have some kind of false awakening where I'm explaining this dream.

    Only I didn't wake up and then at some point he was back and explaining that nobody liked him before and he met some guy in a park and changed his outlook (maybe he also joined the army but that's kind of vague in my memory.) Then he was successful with women. And then I guess because of the false awakening thing maybe it was semi lucid now it wasn't entirely because I don't think I knew I was dreaming, but I seemed to have more control. So after that I decided to alter the dream and try and convince him to wear a certain outfit that was inspired by a pornographic image I like where there's this goth person surrounded by dicks wearing fishnets and stilettos and a bikini (or something I dunno exactly,) and partly another image I had in mind (was some Loki fanart,) like two of them sort of combined, but he got really into the idea and got aroused.

    And then I think that dream switched to where I was in the living room or something and he wasn't there and some weird person was running up my garden about to break into my house. So I left the room quickly and my brother said who it was and it was Kanye West.
    I'd say that's prophetic but Kanye has had several breakdowns and controversies over the last decade lol even before the 2022 stuff.

    Young girls often apparently enjoy emasculating and feminising men. Jordan Peterson talks about his young daughter doing it to her younger brother (and he had mixed feelings about that, though his son apparently enjoyed that,) Joe Rogan talks about how his daughters forced him into some dress his wife was throwing out. They find it 'entertaining.'

    Then, if emasculation is the female war game (and it is I think, one of the games at least. Why would it be maternity? Because it's the opposite of destruction? That seems naive.) I don't remember playing that game as a child. Perhaps that's why I developed a fetish for it later.

    I didn't do anything like this when I was young. It didn't even occur to me. Not until my mid-late teen years and by then it was too late you could say.

    Also some Western women were like 'actually after several millennia (I dunno how long insert random unit of time) I'm finally bored of this game and I want to [BEEP] Pinhead/Slaanesh now'

    In The Hellbound Heart, Pinhead is described as an androgynous being with a feminine voice.[10][11] In 1987's Hellraiser, the character is portrayed by English actor Doug Bradley, who went on to reprise the role in seven subsequent Hellraiser films. In Hellraiser: Revelations (2011), Pinhead is played by Stephan Smith Collins, with Fred Tatasciore providing the character's voice. In Hellraiser: Judgment (2018 ), he is played by Paul T. Taylor. In the 2022 film, the character is portrayed by Jamie Clayton.

    In the Hellraiser film series, Pinhead was once British soldier Captain Elliott Spencer, who became disillusioned with life and humanity during his experiences during World War I, leading him to summon the Cenobites and join their ranks. In Barker's Hellraiser comics published by BOOM! Studios, it is implied that Spencer was not the first Hell Priest or Pontifex and indicate that others will be recruited to fill the role if he ever leaves or is destroyed.[6] Additionally, Barker's novel The Scarlet Gospels indicates that there is debate on whether there has always been one Hell Priest existing for many millennia, or if the title and nature of the Hell Priest has been adopted by many different humans-turned-Cenobite across the centuries.
    Literally sometimes (I've seen Pinhead's fangirls online lol,) but also metaphorically.

    Neocons in shambles.

    Of course, there are still women on social media who want men to die in a war:



    I'm disappointed by the lack of degeneracy here though. Periods could be fetishised and if you want men to die you should probably ... Nah I'll control my edge this once.

    Followers of the Chaos God Slaanesh, who Khornates see as degenerate scum who kill only for pleasure rather than to test one's self against mighty enemies, are favoured foes to face in battle, as are the servants of Tzeentch, who are seen as sorcerers unwilling to engage in fair and honourable combat.
    The disrespect though.

    I like that British people created all these stories. As we should. Or I should but I'm too lazy. At least I made some surreal YouTube videos that gave some people nightmares. But still way too lazy.

    Why do gay men and [BEEP] people and even women horrify [conservative] straight men so much?

    Because "we have such sights to show you?"



    We don't play your game. It's true.

    This version of the gender war is a lot more fun.

    Oh and British people are 'fun'

    Quote Mary Harrington
    But even this contextualised (and, for trans activists, already heretical) moderate position doesn't explain the prevalence of sex offenders in the overall trans-identified offender profile. Sex offenders make up 18% of the UK prison population, as already noted, but consistently around 50% of trans-identified prisoners. Even accepting the blasphemous-but-true premise that trans women are men, if trans identity had no bearing on the offender profile you'd expect a larger proportion to be in for theft (29% of the prison population) or drug offences (21% ).

    I can think of a number of hypotheses, most of which are even more blasphemous than stating that trans women are men. It could be, for example, that "becoming" the opposite sex is, for some, the ultimate challenge to sexual norms. And if you enjoy challenging sexual norms there might be others (such as consent, or age ranges) you also enjoy challenging.

    Or it might be that autogynephilia is not in fact "debunked" but a real paraphilia - in other words, that for at least some trans-identified males, their identity is a sexual fetish. Paraphilias tend to cluster, meaning that if an individual has one fetish, they may have others. And, much as with challenging sexual norms, some fetishes can't be realised without breaking the law.

    Perhaps the explanation is something altogether more innocent. Is this just transphobic oppression of sex workers? A report last year on MoJ data suggests not. Of the 97 trans prisoners in UK jails in 2022, 44 were jailed for rape and a further 14 for sexual offences related to children. Not exactly the multiply-oppressed street martyrs of activist mythology.

    Or perhaps the 50% statistic is somehow a quirk of the data. It could be, for example, that the subset of sexual predators who are transgender is just unusually bad at evading detection for some reason. I can't imagine what might excite suspicion about someone who looks like (say) "Lisa" Hauxwell, but maybe that's transphobia for you.
    .

    Tbh I'm not sure why she hasn't considered that some prisoners lie about being trans for obvious reasons as a potential contributor. And AGP is generally associated with non-dominant fetishes though it's not clear what sexual offences she's talking about.

    It reminds me of the other substack post by her where she saw a photo of some trans people and then FUCKING VIDEO GAMES lol (everyone in this circle writes about exactly the same stuff):

    [a photo of some trans people]

    The image above depicts three males of roughly equal height, two of them artificially feminised, plus three artificially masculinised females also of roughly equal height. Officially, though, it depicts four men - three of whom are for some reason unusually short.

    I keep returning to the image with a sense that the three tiny, smiling 'men' capture something about the diminished nature, in a high-tech society, of masculinity as such. This was brought more into focus for me this week by a sad little video, capturing in a nutshell a modern relationship problem that seems all too common:

    What happens when you have a baby, you feel like you're drowning, and he won't lift a finger? Mum has a baby on her lap; baby tips bowl of baby food onto floor. Meanwhile in the background Daddy is immersed in his video game, wholly cut off from awareness of either his partner or their baby - let alone any desire to relieve her evident state of overwhelm.
    Leaving aside questions of how staged the scenario is, there are some reflex responses to the predicament it captures, from the woman's perspective. From the Left, we might expect "Lazy, sexist men should help more with babycare", or just 'divorce this manchild'. From the Right, a pitiless individualist one might be "it's on you if you choose to have a baby with someone this feckless and self-absorbed". All these boil down to broadly the same message: women should cut ties (or not even form them in the first place) with a man who won?t do an equal share of domestic duties within family life.
    TikTok divorce lawyer Dennis Vetrano reports that many are doing just this. Of those cases that cross his desk, he says, the big trend is mothers who are doing it all - work, domestic duties, care of children - while their husbands simply check out and enjoying the ride.
    I've noticed couples who have cats instead of kids don't seem to have this problem. Just saying. Kids - it's not for everyone (most people probably.)

    Also this is a big part of her ideological beliefs I think - the chore thing specifically. She opened an article talking about reactionary feminism with an anecdote about how her brother and dad just left her mum to do all the household chores and she felt she had to choose between them. Then she lived in some all-lesbian community for a while and was annoyed by the hierarchy there so her grandmother told her to grow out her hair and get married to a guy and she did.

    For the age we are entering, a feminism in thrall to technology and its promise of an end to all limits will deliver--is already delivering--only misery. Instead we need a movement grounded in pragmatic realities. Male and female bodies are different; humans can't change sex; most women want to have children; heterosexuality is the default human condition; outsourcing domestic chores is a movement to reintroduce a servant class; children do better in stable two-parent families; and our hyperfocus on individual freedom is a central factor in the plummeting of birthrates worldwide. Against technological developments that promise to free us from love, longing, and human nature itself, restating these truths is an act of feminist resistance.

    We are liberated enough. What we need is more and better obligations: a feminism that seeks the proper limits on freedom for both sexes. Such a feminism occupies the most reviled position of all. Dissenting from the theology of progress, it revels in the mantle of the "reactionary."

    A reactionary feminism seeks to honor women by accepting as givens the things that make us human: our bodies and our relationships. It asks how we might frame our obligations justly, between the sexes, in the interest of the common good. Women must negotiate new social and economic conditions, not in a spirit of zero-sum conflict with men, but alongside our friends, husbands, fathers, brothers, and sons. The aim is not to return to some imagined perfect past, but to reach a future unshackled from the dystopian pursuit of progress. The only escape from a nightmare of atomization and war between the sexes is the recognition that we are embodied creatures, and that interdependence is not 'oppression but the very thing that makes us human.
    Left feminism seeks to challenge all sex-based constraints in the name of male-female sameness. It rejects sex differences in favor of a 'blank slate' theory of personality and treats women who prefer domestic to career activities as class traitors. At its most thoroughgoing, it argues for a transactional approach to women's sexual and reproductive lives, one that normalizes prostitution, legitimates pornography as a career, frames gestation as 'parasitic,' and proposes surrogacy as the template for family life.

    Its pursuit of sameness has culminated in the surreal spectacle of a feminism that seeks to liberate women from the need to be female. Recent moves to abolish biological sex in law have been hailed as victories in an "*intersectional" progressive project, and resistance is decried as "gate*keeping womanhood based on physiological traits." This despite the fact that abolishing sex segregation is clearly to the detriment of females on sports teams or in changing rooms, prisons, and women's refuges. Such effects are of little concern to wealthy women who benefit from a "gender-neutral" culture in their workplaces and are unlikely to find themselves incarcerated or fleeing domestic violence.
    OK well good luck with heterosexual culture. I will not be participating. Obviously lol. Which I guess makes me in-human but I don't give a shit.

    And we can perhaps generalise this, to suggest the following update on the suffrage-era anxiety: that men have not, in the end, been feminised in the sense of replacing women as domestic drudges. Rather, an increasingly common scenario is the one in which women do everything in the real world - the earning, the public life and the domestic one - while their male partners find their roles radically shrunk, such that they can continue pursuing honour in the classic masculine style only in virtual domains.
    Well, as I've been informed repeatedly by right wingers that everyone is brainwashed by porn, surely we just need to spread that porn audio file I stumbled on around with the guy who is baking cookies and then his girlfriend (you) comes home and she (you) gives him a handjob (I think,) but he has to continue making the cookies and can't stop. I'm not joking this is a thing that exists that I stumbled on lol. Oh wait no he messed them up because of the distraction in the end, and so she agreed to help him make a new batch. It's a start though.

    Honestly the more I read about this never ending discourse and the whole 'kitchen' thing the more I think I really should have been less lazy and made that kitchencore album with my creepy sounding oven. It had everything:

    1. Kitchen instrument.

    2. Horror.

    That's it. That's the whole thing.

    [no I can't link it ahhhh]

    Your Oven Sounds Like Metallic Death
    The title was actually my friend's description.

    I talk about this too much but the kitchen thing is everywhere all the time. It's like the 'one joke' and everything.

    The kitchen is the site of sex and violence. Like that Xiu Xiu music video I shouldn't post. But I'm going to post the song cause it's cool:



    Or a cannibalistic killer. Or Katherine Knight.

    And this shrinking field for male aspiration seems to be tempting many to forego IRL altogether in favour of glory in the simulation. A growing number of reports document the phenomenon of young men dropping out of everything - real-world ambition, family formation, the works - preferring simply to make ends meet and focus their energy only on the simulated pursuit of honour via gaming.
    Ew:

    Every act of killing or murder in the material universe feeds and empowers Khorne; the more senseless and destructive, the better. However, though Khorne is the god of bloody slaughter, it is also the god of martial pride and honour, of those who set themselves against the most dangerous foes and earn victory against the odds.
    I'll allow it though (since I'm not actually Slaanesh lol, I'm Tzeentch. I mean I'm a Human obviously, except when I'm supporting artificial wombs or something and then become inhuman) because annoying reactionary feminists with technology is good actually.

    There's another theory too presented by BAP that she hasn't addressed (I mean if you're going to try and be edgy and absurd.) But before I get into that:

    A lieutenant colonel I knew, a true intellectual, was put in charge of civil affairs, the work we did helping the Vietnamese grow rice and otherwise improve their lives. He was a sensitive man who kept a journal and seemed far better equipped for winning hearts and minds than for combat command. But he got one, and I remember flying out to visit his fire base the night after it had been attacked by an NVA sapper unit. Most of the combat troops I had been out on an operation, so this colonel mustered a motley crew of clerks and cooks and drove the sappers off, chasing them across tile rice paddies and killing dozens of these elite enemy troops by the light of flares. That morning, as they were surveying what they had done and loading the dead NVA--all naked and covered with grease and mud so they could penetrate the barbed wire--on mechanical mules like so much garbage, there was a look of beatific contentment on tile colonel's face that I had not seen except in charismatic churches. It was the look of a person transported into ecstasy.
    One of my favourite things right wingers do is continuously try to convince you that certain kinds of less stereotypically masculine men and trans women are actually bad or 'the worst' in fact. Because either they are repressed or they're hiding something. Now obviously every conservative political voice devotes a lot of their time to this end - Jordan Peterson and such:

    Some of the men I've seen at female dominated protests would make my blood run cold

    "We're your allies"

    I don't think so
    You bloody psychopaths
    This implies that all men are against women and some men lie btw. But I don't think he's considered the implications of convincing people of this because conservatives are still rolling with the idea that "all (or at least most,) women are wrong and we can convince them to give up their own agendas in favour of ours." Bless them.

    But other figures on the alt-right also do this in a more eccentric way:

    Quote Bronze Age Mindset
    Camille Paglia says that the modern homosexual is the product of the pressures of post-industrial life. Her model for this is that a very sensitive young boy, open to aesthetic experience of all kinds, maybe the kind of slightly neurotic and artistic boy that a century ago would have experienced synaesthesia; such boy is turned off by the horseplay and "rough" masculinity of his brothers and father and other boys his age. The distancing from this masculinity is concurrent with his becoming overclose with his mother, idolizing the feminine: upon puberty, the distance or fear from masculinity leads him to eroticize it, while he turns away from women, either because of too much familiarity, or too much awe. In this she is only half right, and the other half of the story I discovered from an alien mind whose teachings have been spread among some of the frogs.

    His name Harro MJ, but I think this is false name. I tell some of his ideas here as best I understood. He tells I believe his own story, or someone he knows: he tells of how modern world corrupted his nature through stricture and turned him into a homo. But I think his story speaks to many others, who didn't turn into ghey, but who have nevertheless been disfigured in some other way? by the same force. Now, Paglia?s restatement of Freud is correct, but she misses an important element of the story, which is why such a boy turns away from the masculinity of his peers in the first place. It is not horseplay or the roughness of male competition as such that makes him turn away, but the utterly fake or artificial character of such displays, usually, in our time. Such boy perceives what his peers don't, the conditional and entirely dependent character of life in our age. It is not the masculinity, the competition for status among men, the physical roughness, that makes him turn away but the fact that all such play is happening in already owned space

    I believe boy like this is one of the types that sees through the charade the lords of lies have dangled in front, the shadow-play to dazzle the many, and he is turned off, maybe not by manliness, but the buffoonish, deluded character of modern masculinity. The defeated male that is turned into a peon and a neutered beast for women and hidden masters is a terrible thing to see. The jockeying for status, the physical fights, the adventures boys are supposed to have in a state of nature all of this is in nature meant as preparation for life, for a life of conquest and expansion. Roman teenagers of patrician class were sent already on missions on behalf of Empire abroad. Modern adult Western male seeks permission to watch other men playing sports, quaff vegetable oil relish, beg for 'coochie' in simulated intercourse, masturbation with plastic on dick. Precisely a character born for conquest, for expansion, a precocious type of boy who seeks real development and the real domination of the space around him, who understands in his blood that play and manliness are to this end, precisely such a boy will have his expectations about life crushed and thwarted as soon as his eyes open.

    This may be around the age of six or seven, but it sometimes happens earlier. Such boy then comes to have only contempt for those among his peers who, not seeing the subjection we are in, continue under their delusion and accept the breaking that the lords of shadows begin on the human spirit around this age of awakening--by nine or ten, the "education" is almost already complete in our time. They submit to the yoke and their sham simulated masculinity is now a parody of the true manliness, which in a state of ascent develops into the will to actually dominate space around oneself, not into a caricature for the benefit of women.

    But this domination is not possible when space is already owned. This intuition of owned space comes on one very early: with eyes open, it's like an evil spirit inhabits everything. I think there are many types of energetic and perceiving boys who reach this stage, who are turned off by the moral and biological self-castration of their conventional peers, who sense the suffocating limitations of modern space.

    The rest of this story is more particular to the boy who as response becomes a homo or trap, and Paglia is right about that part--masculinity rejected simply because of distance from other boys in general, mostly as a result of a certain native over-sensitivity. But then there is the added observation that when, late in adolescence or some time in youth, such boy decides he is "gay," that is but the final act of selfmisunderstanding. The drama of his spirit is reinterpreted on sexual terms. He has convinced himself that the feeling of suppression and dread that had accompanied him his whole life was because his sexual desires or "sexuality" had been repressed by "society." He forgets how these sexual desires developed in the first place, that these desires themselves were a circuitous result of the truth that dawned on him in silence, the truth of the utter subjection and domestication of the space in which he found himself. In becoming "gay" he believes he is escaping that sense of primal limitation and subjection that he felt as a small boy: he has reinterpreted his entire drama as a maudlin story of sexuality suppressed or oppressed by retrograde social and political norms. In this he becomes an unwitting pawn himself of the very power that as a young boy he had intuited to be the enemy, the great and suffocating shadow of our time, that smothers all higher life out. The gay is the spiritual foot-soldier of the new regime, when he is born to be its enemy. This is the unusual part of this realization, that some of the most sensitive and perceptive youths, those maybe imbued with spark of inspiration and a conquering, expanding spirit, end up becoming the vanguard of that which has smothered and broken them.
    This entire section seems like a really long drawn out way to say that guys who are into sissification are actually often fetishising their fear/horror of being emasculated which is ultimately a masculine motivation.

    And if you're not very observant, as none of you are, you won't be able to distinguish the nuanced differences you have to. While uh 'searching for the gay underworld' Lol.



    Two halves are equal, a cross between two evils
    It's not an enviable lot
    But if you listen you'll learn to hear the difference
    Between the halves and the half knots


    Something like that lol.

    Quote Bronze Age Mindset
    Now in all this you see this idea of space or territory that is already closed and owned. And this brings up the question of who or what this force is. I think the answer to this problem isn't so simple, but one feature of this new condition in modern age is that the masters are hidden. That is even why this condition of subjection seems so suffocating, because they hide, and so there is no opportunity for open and manly challenge.
    You have various degrees from MIT and Yale and even continuously point out in this text that men are transformed for women and criticise 'the matriarchy (tm),' but still think it's something beyond female sexuality?

    Interesting. Is that some kind of 'cope?'

    And I'm not endorsing the hypothesis (or any really,) but it's the end stage conclusion of his own hypothesis that he seems to be avoiding. That many seem to be avoiding on the right. Women aren't the enemy but men who support them are? Well that's Peterson's weird take. BAP seems to think those men are victims too. It's not women. Not men. Not even butch lesbians who are in service to it. The enemy is

    ???

    A mysterious shadowy force.

    It is me? I hope it's me. (Not me as an individual but me as in Tumblr or something I suppose.) I am quite invisible I think.

    The mental gymnastics to avoid calling women the enemy in your mythology. But women are the enemy in his mythology as he continuously blames everything he dislikes on the concept of 'matriarchy' but he tries to pretend he loves women.

    Quote bronze age pervert
    if you had girlfriend, maybe artsy girlfriend, she had ghey friend; you could go with them to lounge of this half-world, and there would be there?maybe two social contacts removed 'there would' one of them. But now that this world has disappeared, you have no easy way of even knowing where to start. Its boundaries were policed, its entry points were surveilled, but it always existed as a space of freedom outside the pervasiveness of domestication in postindustrial civilization. Let's not forget, I repeat, that the "gay underworld" was hardly just the gays, but precisely that world penetrated by all types of deviants, perverts, whores, pimps, impresarios, night club owners, mafia, gangsters, spooks, intelligence services of all kinds--just see the Dark Ocean Society and you will understand. The Dark Ocean Society of Japan is the key to understanding all modern political and social organization because underneath the pervasiveness of the domestication and management of modern civilization, underneath its superficial orderliness, there remained the "floating world," the free world as a still and dark ocean in which moved monsters, including the lords and crafters of this new civilization themselves.

    They still live in that world, not in ours. Our world is the house of subjection, they live in the estate of freedom and power. It is only that, with the relatively large number of gays that exist, this world was much larger than it is now, and more varied, its entry points more penetrable. The space of night that gays created for themselves, in which such types could at least feel they had new opportunity to expand and act, was nuked in the 1980's with AIDS first of all, and then at the same time with the "gay rights" and "gay identity" movement, through which they came "into the open," and became the worst and most merciless enforcers of the global slave state. But enough about them: you must understand! I use this as illustrative and true example of what happens to all higher types in our time. The vast majority don't become gay, but the plight of the gay is the most simple and therefore instructive example of this. Anyone born with a will to conquest and expansion, any specimen born to courage and the expansion of boundaries, will feel thwarted now, will awaken at a young age to find themselves in a world pervaded by an evil and smothering shadow that seeks to blot out their spirit and break them.
    Lol.

    This is a bit like:

    "What if Mark Fisher did amphetamines like Nick Land?"



    As sad as the story of many of the modern gays is, the story of the modern transsexual is the same in all ways, but worse. This explains also why so many traps are obsessed with Hegel. They know in their blood--but they misunderstand themselves and forget who broke them. The story of the modern transsexual is the story of our collective future.
    Should the tyranny that has descended on our age ever gain the power it seeks and then be challenged enough to feel itself in danger, the mass annihilations that will be carried out by homosexual, transsexual, and especially lesbian commissars will exceed in scale and cruelty anything that has yet happened in known history. Imagine lesbian mulatta commissars with young Martin Sheen face and haircut manning the future Bergen-Belsens, installations that will span tens of miles.
    And you know the ongoing issue with lesbians. It's there every. single. fucking. time lol. Without fail.

    They resent the "beta," but you're wrong to think it was ever any different. No?great civilizations and cultures were never founded nor kept alive by "betas." The nerdoids who have taken over much of the right have brainwashed you to this view, but it's wrong. Women never loved the shopkeeper, the timid merchant with the nasal voice, and no, not even the clockmaker or craftsman. They have always loved the knight, the sailor in love with wild ideas of the sea, the adventurer and pirate. And it is right that they loved these men, and that, with the coming of the rule of the bugman, they would try to seek their "liberation" from unworthy men and the boring society they were building. That this resentment was manipulated itself by the Satanic power that rules our time, and that through this very drive for freedom woman became enslaved more than she had been before?is beside the point. You won't be able to make women "see reason" and love a "beta civilization"--a fabrication of the HBD cuckold crowd of our time. Women will love you if you are a warrior. And they will help, through the entirely retarded mechanism of democracy, to elect men of glamor and charisma who are our only immediate hope against the machine that runs our garbage world. Trump, for all his hesitations, is only the beginning. He has shown the path insofar as woman is concerned. The mob also is a woman. Now imagine a man of Trump's charisma, but who is not merely beholden to the generals, but one of them, and able to rule and intimidate them as well as seduce the many. So far we have only had Gracchi ?but Caesars and Napoleons are sure to follow.
    However the persona/aesthetic is not negotiable for me 'evil' or not. I have no use for masculine guys playing war games.

    Lol there's a thread responding to this. AND IT'S IN THE OFF TOPIC SECTION OF SOME WEBSITE called econjobboard. 'economics, math, sociology and political science forum. Job market rumours and discussion.' You know what. Why the [BEEP] not I guess. And uh if you don't know what wordcel and shape rotaters are I'll quote this quickly:

    At its base, the dichotomy is simple. Wordcels are people who are good with words. Shape rotators are people who are good with math and abstract thought. Use of the terms has skyrocketed online in the past few months, and especially in the last few days.
    In the modern era we are very good at rapidly creating new binaries, new wars, new divisions. Half of them are just proxies for gender, being gendered traits in the first place.

    So yeah:

    This is what wordcels will do to shape rotators if AI usurps their power:

    "Should the tyranny that has descended on our age ever gain the power it seeks and then be challenged enough to feel itself in danger, the mass annihilations that will be carried out by homosexual, transsexual, and especially lesbian commissars will exceed in scale and cruelty anything that has yet happened in known history. Imagine lesbian mulatta commissars with young Martin Sheen face and haircut manning the future Bergen-Belsens, installations that will span tens of miles."
    ironic, since Bronze Age Mindset is himself a wordcel. He and his left-wing mirror images should all be imprisoned and then publicly burned at the stake
    The idea of a tr#nny death squad going door to door and krilling people for wrongthink would be hilarious if it weren't such fever dream tier delusion
    he is 100% correct
    Make up your mind, chud. Are troons effete, delusional, incompetents, devoid of any serious skills beyond wordceling gender theory, or are they ruthless krillers capable of subjugating and decimating the heartland in armed conflict?
    If he made up his mind it wouldn't be fascism. "The enemy is both strong and weak."

    Lol I have an excuse to post this again:



    He's more proud of his body than his math major or intelligence. One must OVERCOME once's nerdiness, as Nietzsche exhorted and Mishima did.
    I think he might have been happier as a himbo.

    I never thought problem of modernity or problem of man in general is primarily economic or will ever have economic solution. But I will say brief: that America or the West is "hypercapitalist" is one of the most absurd claims floating around now. I don't want to enter these debates very much because it would make me take, however temporarily, the side of "classical liberals." I don?t believe in liberalism of whatever kind because it is, as Nietzsche say, itself a path to the herd-animalization of man. I believe in Fascism or "something worse" and I can say so unambiguously because, unlike others, I have given up long ago all hope of being part of the respectable world or winning a respectable audience. I have said for a long time that I believe in rule by a military caste of men who would be able to guide society toward a morality of eugenics. I am indifferent to economics as long as economic activity is subordinate to the interest of this caste and their project.
    Quote Bronze Age Pervert
    The left realizes they look weak and lame--because they are. They know they have nothing to offer youth but submission and lectures. They know they're unsexy and staid. If indeed young leftist men will start lifting and worshiping beauty, they will be forced to leave the left.
    https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/b...sm-nietzschean

    In fact, BAPs writing rarely demonstrates any of Nietzsche's psychological acuity; instead, it casually dismisses the mass of humankind as vermin, yeast, bugs, etc. These tedious tirades ignore Nietzsche's insistence that, at his most noble, the superior man is too far above the herd to bother hating it. The irony is that by constantly referring to the swinish multitude and comparing himself to them, BAPs writing seems to seethe with the kind of ressentiment that Nietzsche regarded as a deadly intellectual vice. In this case it's the ressentiment of a man who regards himself as superior and wishes to be recognized as such, but despises anyone who could actually affirm his superiority. This comes through most clearly in BAP's weird little sermons on friendship, in which he alternates between yearning for the "self-destruction" of the "heaps of biological refuse" that constitute most of humanity and asking why no one wants to be his friend--before concluding ruefully that none is worthy of that honor. The sense conveyed in these passages is less Dionysian revelry than late-night drunken pity party. BAP sometimes insists on the need to be cruel to one's self, and not just to others, because it is only through cruelty to one?s illusions and superficial joys that a kind of will-to-truth is demonstrated. But how much self-cruelty is really entailed in declaring yourself a born aristocrat, both intellectually and physically superior to the common run of men?
    Maybe when he finally finds the gay underworld - sort of like neverland I guess - he'll finally get to be Dionysus. Or hang out with Dionysus. I dunno. I've edited this post an insane amount of times and I'm tired now.

    He'll get to hang with the 'gay/trap' emperors.

    Quote bronze age pervert
    I don't write to defend such things, but the condemnation isn't moral--how can it be, when my reaction at reading excesses of Caligula or Nero or Tiberius is to feel a great sense of loss, or envy at what they could do that I can't?
    Quote Bronze Age Pervert
    At Rome he used to lock down the Colosseum during the hottest hours and withdraw the awnings so that the people would suffer in the heat and pregnant women wouldn't be able to leave.Sometimes he replaced the regular gladiator shows with pathetic fights between cripples and deformed animals; he would lock down the granaries to let the people go hungry for no reason at all. He was the greatest troll ever.
    I actually preferred the story about how Elagabalus killed his guests with flowers myself. But you don't appreciate that. Because as you say:

    We don't want to admit that we're as lame in vice and deviance as we are in greatness, and for the same reasons.
    I don't celebrate any of this, but I think when in our age elites are accused of similar behavior this isn't right. I think we flatter ourselves. We want to think they're a lot more interesting than they are it's easier to think we're ruled by demons than by defectives who would normally be running a smoked-fish stand or running vodka parlors outside Minsk. You see these old wet rags of an "elite" getting arrested, and in almost every case it?s for something on the level of a Pee Wee monkeyshow, self-exposure in a porn cinema, masturbating themselves in front of some frigid cinema [BEEP] with leatherface and bugged out eyes, exposing their weapons of mass destruction to a Dominican maid. It's hard to understand what even goes into this kind of "decadence," but it's of a different kind from the excesses of the worst Roman Emperors, who, even when they were trannies, seem more manly and brave than our perverts.
    Have you ever considered that some of the stories are lies?

    Given what I hear now, why should I trust what was said then?

    When you look at Elagabalus you see this tendency taken to its logical conclusion: this man was a trap-Emperor, and asked his doctors to give him a sex change operation. It is believed he was a devotee of Cybele, and like the insane priests of that cult?wanted to castrate himself. Instead of this, he became a prostitute inside the palace, and used to publicly give himself airs over how much he was making.
    Yeah one of my favourite porn audios is similar to this where there's a prince and then he's whoring himself out to commoners and then he tries to tease this warrior who is his bodyguard about this and how she can't have him etc, and then she forces him into having sex and then he says he'll choose the female warrior over his fortune.

    I used to be quite into gay prostitute stories as a teenager.

    So this might be fanfiction thinking about it. I feel like that era's Rachilde wrote some of this.

    I don?t celebrate any of this,
    WELL I DO.

    No.

    I like that he turned himself into a prostitute. But uh I'm not endorsing all the stories I know about or don't know about.

    A beautiful death at the right time is the only key to understanding a life, it's only hidden "meaning." It is a beautiful death to die after accomplishing a great feat for the glory of one's city, family and for the gods, but it's greater still to die in one's prime, at the height of your powers and at the acme of their discharge. A beautiful death in youth is a great thing, to leave behind a beautiful body[.]18
    That has to be some kind of fetish.

    The only thing worse than a warmongering immature boy is one who is an aspiring body builder instead of a twink. And you can quote me on that.



    ^ No matter what else he creates now it's unlikely to be more important than this video. Because it has so many meanings.

    I started writing this song as comedomusicological exercise in attacking one specific individual for Your Entertainment. But the more I wrote, the more I started to feel like a voyeur, contorting that stranger into a reductive stereotype of my own creation. This song is about that.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Now and then I just look at memes like this and think about how if we survive as a species and if the education system survives (hopefully not in it's current form at least,) one day someone's going to be looking at stuff like this in some kind of history class.



    There's something about that wojak that really cracks me up. (I think it's called 'art hoe' wojak originally? I dunno) It has this kind of like cute-evil vibe. I've seen it in like those Ukraine war memes with the they/them army stuff as well lol a while back.

    Also this was posted on reddit and there were lots of comments about 'Emily's' I guess that's one of those names like Chad, Stacy and Karen etc but I've never heard anyone use this anywhere else yet there are several comments about it:

    People were more intuitive in the past and it was an obvious and available construct for metaphor. The organization scheme has been used throughout cultures, religions, and languages.

    The idea of some celestial "first mover" that seeded the universe clearly brings up masculine characteristics unless you're intentionally dense (a common malady today). Thus you get "He", "Father" or "Le Dieu".

    The entity being seeded and incubating life naturally lends itself to "Mother Earth" or "La Terre".

    In Asia Yin is a symbol of earth, femaleness, darkness, passivity, and absorption.

    Yang is conceived of as heaven, maleness, light, activity, and penetration. Based asians got it.

    Brain damaged Emilies trained to see offense in everything scream that this is some hateful patriarchal plot crafted to oppress women. When in reality if you talked to any of these people it probably just...made sense (something in rare supply today).

    Young wordcels like to use computer terminology which is more gender neutral. But even there you could see how Le Bootloader and La Desktop as metaphor feel pretty natural.
    UCC is basically an Emily support group for 50 year old lesbians
    God identifies as male and anyone stating otherwise is misgendering him.

    Use this against Emily's
    Based and Emily hack pilled
    Imagine believing in a supreme creator of the universe, but also being arrogant enough to tell it how to properly call itself, sasuga Emily sama.
    Wtf is an Emily? First of all great name love that name. Emily The Strange. This song:



    Great. Very goth.

    Secondly. I'm guessing some kind of progressive woman, 4chan and adj communities already have slurs for afab non-binary people - theyfab (though that's spread further now,) but that's more in-community like /tttt/ then outside.

    I don't like Christianity so I wouldn't be trying to do that myself 'nah you can keep him lol' (there was the Jesus/Satan fanfiction era and I also think my personal headcannon of Satan is more cool, but putting these things aside,) but taking over other domains is ironically a very Ishtar/Inanna thing to do. And she was an androgynous sky goddess lol which makes that comment about the Sky/Earth dichotomy even funnier. She failed in trying to take over her sister Ereshkigal's realm in the underworld though. Many such cases. That's a difficult one. Someone should definitely make a video game about this. There is some overlap between Lucifer's story and Inanna and Persephone and then also Aphrodite.

    Also when they make this a video game they should make it part of The God of War series. Not because I feel that's in any way necessary and I personally think it should be a new game series. But I think they should do this just to piss off all the obnoxious gamers that freak out massively like this:



    Everytime something happens regarding character's gender, race etc. Or even just having a pronoun option during a character creation screen.

    Oh no I'm not 'woke' on principle. I'm 'woke' because their overreaction is hilarious and irritating.

    That being said he's only doing it because it gets him tons of views. It's unlikely that he's this mad all the time - and even if he is he's recording himself for views + money. This is a template that started far before him like this guy and his brother from way back in 2009:



    Obviously most of these people need therapy. You can tell the guy above is mentally ill. I think a lot of the people who end up in these videos are autistic or have ADHD or BPD. Then some also struggle with addictions but I think video game addictions are secondary to other mental health issues and ADHD most of the time because it's not a chemical addiction so it's not a real addiction in the classic sense.

    Coppercab was always angry in their videos and nobody knew if they were acting or not:



    Ginger guys actually get tons of [BEEP] though in real life so that's more understandable than freaking out over a video game at least.

    Apparently I wasn't up to date on some lore and coppercab came out as a trans woman (which people took seriously,) then went off hrt because of heart problems (which would be fine except see everything that follows,) and later seems to be some kind of gym bro who threatened Gavin Mcinnes though honestly that's somewhat understandable too since Gavin McInnes is a huge [BEEP] who likes to get into fights himself.

    I get Oly London vibes from coppercab but a bit less politically involved. I don't know if they still id as trans or not I can't find info. Also obviously they have a history in gaming content incl. Runescape. And claims to be in a relationship with their half-sister:

    On February 14, 2020, Michael revealed on Twitter that he and his half-sister Aubrey are in a relationship, claiming they hardly grew up together as Aubrey was raised by her mother and stepfather in Kansas while Michael grew up in Georgia.
    Did you catch the fight between Gavin McInnes and Coppercab?

    It's rare to watch a fight where I want both sides to lose
    I come across so many fights like that honestly.

    Alex Jones of course started to do this. He's always freaking out:





    At a certain point people started to politicise this as with everything and it became a bigger issue. The weird thing about Alex Jones is he acts like this all the time as a rhetorical strategy and is popular with right wing figures, but when feminists or trans people act the same way it's considered cringe.

    Obviously Alex Jones is still niche but he's managed to accrue a pretty large audience for his political agenda, gets on Joe Rogan.. A lot of people take him seriously even if most don't and his ideas also spread further than those who are devoted fans. When trans people or feminists do this kind of thing on camera it gets considered bad optics and that's among ingroup people. Though it's understandable how people get pissed off now and then.



    I'm reading [BEEP] face. Classic.

    What she's saying in this clip isn't even unreasonable really like if you remove the ideological language what she's basically saying is prison rape is bad, joking about prison rape belittles the issue culturally, and she doesn't want men to have to pay alimony but it was set up because women earn less because they prioritise domestic duties historically over professional goals + earning potential.

    I think there are some other factors too like women being more agreeable on average so they don't tend to negotiate as high salaries and it's also possible that if they did they'd be judged for displaying those personality traits more. In research white women in the US (yes specifically white women,) are judged as ruthless and have a penalty for displaying signs of dominance even when they have high competence which must additionally disincentivise that behaviour for a lot of white women.

    On the other hand I think I've heard that women in their 20s earn more than men in their 20s. I think it should only really apply in situations where a woman has below a certain amount of money to live off, like if they end up in poverty because they were a housewife. Some people have attempted to calculate how much housewives should earn though based on how much people doing similar jobs earn and it's quite a bit. Some figures I've seen are like:

    $120,900 (62,590 pounds)

    There is obviously a huge issue with basically devaluing every traditional female role economically. I suppose the right wing counter argument would be something like 'well women shouldn't be getting divorced, and this is only an issue if you get divorced.'

    But yeah she's just yelling everything and really angry so people don't listen (because she's not Alex Jones.) Though of course Alex Jones rambling about dark matter but not really talking about dark matter at all in the physics sense but something entirely different, pedophilic vampire demon aliens and so on... Isn't more reasonable. Honestly he started talking about gravity and dark matter but in a way that made no sense. It was the most insane thing I'd ever listened to in terms of like a ratio of how highly he's regarded (like why is he on this podcast,) vs the insanity and accuracy of what he is saying. Not sure I can find that hilarious Joe Rogan interview clip now... This is one clip with some insane stuff either way:



    And I say this as someone who probably understands him better than most as my thought patterns have many schizoid and archetypal tendencies.

    Most of what he's saying is insane the only accurate points are like 'people are demoralised now and often don't want kids' everything else he says is just insane. And yet the comments are mostly agreeing with him and saying things like 'he's 70% correct.' Nope!

    I'm searching this subreddit to try and figure the Emily thing out.

    For the last time Emily, an upside cross is not "satanic" no matter what you think.
    We have found the male version of Emily - I present to you: Emilio
    Anyone have a wojak for Emily?

    Me when Emily says school is dumb and we should get rid of maths class

    [then he's put a dot in the far right authoritarian section of the political compass meme]
    Well it is dumb.

    I think it's basically just a progressive person or something because this is the political compass subreddit.

    Math is hard guys. Therefore racist and a tool of white imperialism.

    That last one is currently being debated seriously on my campus
    I don't think it is but I can understand how people get to this conclusion when twitter is full of retarded rationalists and rationalist-adj people turning shaperotater and wordcel into some kind of culture war battle. That includes Jordan Peterson who jumped on that (I stumbled on this again in that article I was reading yesterday lol):

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkpq...shape-rotators



    It's funny because he's a 'wordcel.' Based on the definition. Someone pointed that out elsewhere lol.

    Like it's insane but not as insane as people think when you consider the hell that is social media where everyone especially teenagers spend most of their time. It's also a proxy war for the greater gender war.

    I mean it's still very insane but it's an insanity that was 100% caused by... As this is the political compass subreddit where only 4 squares exist - yellow lib right wing ephebophilia square men.

    Here's the thing when you demonise every feminine trait and skill in society and devalue those subjects and roles economically in a culture where everyone is competing economically. Feminine people disregard them and/or work on destroying your [BEEP] instead. It's much more fun. And you don't disagree since you all want to die in a war anyway.

    Also a big section of the culture war 'began' in the US humanities (not the race part obviously that's a working class thing,) so I think that should be taken seriously and not treated as coincidence.

    In a long essay about the origins of the terms, the prolific Twitter shitposter roon claimed to have invented the term wordcel on in October of 2021 while engaging in a discourse battle online.

    "To the best of my knowledge, I coined the word in the heat of battle with another prodigious schizoposter (Mr. @Logo_Daedalus, whom I feel no animosity towards), and he became a kind of ur-example archetypal figure in the wordcel sphere,? roon said in their essay. "A deep yet largely unintelligible expert in the humanities, history and philosophy, his verbal abstractions have led him quite far from the base reality we share. While some of these types will become presidents, poets, priests, the vast majority will live and die producing little value, chasing down rhetorical dead-ends, with their scholarship forgotten. This is the central tragedy of the wordcel."

    The shape rotator, too, is a common archetype of the online world. This is a person who can do their taxes in a breezy afternoon but struggles to make eye contact during dinner. 'They may be very good at details and bad at seeing the bigger picture,' roon wrote. 'The demarcation isn?t just between STEM and humanities?you will absolutely find wordcels in the STEM domain' rather, it's about modes of thinking. It's about realism, thing-orientation over people-orientation, and investigative grounding in the tangible world.'
    Back to reddit for a second:

    Of course, this is what they say (sort of). What they actually think is presumably "hmm women are typically not represented in groups that require high mathematical acumen. That means that they must be being excluded. What's that? the nerds would happily hire a woman? Well then, the math itself must be oppressive. Didn't those guys that wear dresses from the desert invent a bunch of math? I bet that?s woke, let's teach that instead"

    This then devolved from wanting to replace 'western math' with legitimate mathematics from different places and cultures that all works together because it's FUCKING MATH and it's all taught, obviously, to wanting to teach non-mathematical (non-scientific) principles as valid alternatives used to understand the nature of the universe. This is how we got to the video of those morons in a US college claiming that shamans in Africa can call down lightning and science can't explain it. Spoiler; Shaman can't learn Thunderbolt. It didn't happen.

    TLDR; libleft bad, math good, wall of text, [BEEP] Arts majors
    Actually the nerds are often highly competitive assholes if you spend quite a bit of time with them - and I have irl and online - you'll notice. So if you were going to get stuck on some idea like this that would have made more sense then 'maths itself is imperialist.' No the people are assholes. The people are always assholes. Not all of them but like a bunch and I think that realisation is probably off putting to a lot of people who have a stereotype of certain groups being 'not like jocks (tm.)' I'm pretty sure this is why BAP hates nerds. And he even has a degree from MIT in mathematics lol. Then again given the ambiguity of the term it's never clear who he means and I don't think he means the nerds that these - mostly women - dislike. I think he just means any 'soft' guys who are into nerdy subcultural interests (which are varied and technically many would fall under the definition of 'wordcel' since in order to create fiction like Tolkien or other fantasy universes you have to have high verbal intelligence obviously. So that's a bit ironic.)

    Part of the reason no one's having sex now is that nerds in uni used to have sex with weird artsy girls who read a lot and dyed their hair but now those girls 'Emily' if you will hate nerds and want to destroy them lol.

    Quick, how many cubes can you rotate in your brain? If you're struggling to even form the image of a cube in your mind, let alone rotate it, then I'm sorry to say that you're not a shape rotator. You are, in fact, probably a wordcel. If you have no idea what wordcel and shape rotators are, I will explain it to you, and I'm sorry your curiosity has brought you to this article.

    At its base, the dichotomy is simple. Wordcels are people who are good with words. Shape rotators are people who are good with math and abstract thought. Use of the terms has skyrocketed online in the past few months, and especially in the last few days.

    The term shape rotator has been floating around online for a few years now. The term wordcel has been around less than a year. You're hearing about them now thanks to a venture capitalist and a Washington Post reporter.

    On Feb. 2, Netscape co-founder turned venture capitalist Marc Andreessen tweeted what was, to most, incomprehensible gibberish.
    Venture capitalist. That makes sense. And I was right! Yellow square lol.

    Washington Post technology and culture columnist Taylor Lorenz screencapped Andreessen's tweet and shared it with her followers. This set off a chain reaction that elevated the terms "wordcel" and "shape rotator" into the mainstream, elevating an extremely online dichotomy into a confusing and terrible new front in our horrifying culture wars.

    Much of America's culture war can be cynically flattened and viewed through the lens of these two words; "woke" wordcels live in the land of philosophy and books and liberal colleges, clinging to ideals espoused in their precious books, tweeting about Wordle, while shape rotators are out here coding, building businesses, doing engineering, etc. etc.
    I'm annoyed that they're still trying to pretend this isn't a gender war when we see can see what's happening:



    I think there's some taboo on admitting this but admitting it is the first step.

    My degree was in games art, though I wasn't good at that subject and my sixth form tutor assumed I would study computer science but I didn't because I'm retarded. I was probably better at programming which I studied before then but I'm not good at maths and had a bad maths teacher for years (I learnt more in the few months in sixth form when I re-took GCSE maths then I did in high school, but ultimately it's still not my thing.) Now I mostly kill people and do other weird things in video games for YouTube... I don't know where that fits in but I don't think it does lol.

    Some of us are bad at everything! I do think I'm more of a wordcel though overall.

    Nick Land had something to say about the coming revenge of the nerds political thing back in 2014 (deleted that site now):

    https://web.archive.org/web/20140329...-of-the-nerds/

    Increasingly, there are only two basic human types populating this planet. There are autistic nerds, who alone are capable of participating effectively in the advanced technological processes that characterize the emerging economy, and there is everybody else. For everybody else, this situation is uncomfortable. The nerds are steadily finding ways to do all the things ordinary and sub-ordinary people do, more efficiently and economically, by programming machines. Only the nerds have any understanding of how this works, and -- until generalized machine intelligences arrive to keep them company -- only they will.

    The masses only know three things:
    (a) They want the cool stuff the nerds are creating
    (b) They don?t have anything much to offer in exchange for it
    (c) They aren?t remotely happy about that

    Politics across the spectrum is being pulled apart by the socio-economic fission. From Neo-Marxists to Neoreactionaries, there is a reasonably lucid understanding that nerd competence is the only economic resource that matters much anymore, while the swelling grievance of preponderant obsolescing humanity is an irresistible pander-magnet. What to do? Win over the nerds, and run the world (from the machinic back-end)? Or demagogue the masses, and ride its tsunami of resentment to political power? Either defend the nerds against the masses, or help the masses to put the nerds in their place. That?s the dilemma. Empty ?third-way? chatter can be expected, as always, but the real agenda will be Boolean, and insultingly easy to decode.

    Look and it's unmistakable, everywhere. The asymmetry is especially notable.

    For the autistic nerds, the social relations that matter are those among themselves -- the productive networks which are their model for final-phase human culture in general -- along with the ever more intricate connections they enter into with technological machines. From pretty much everybody else -- whether psycho-sadistic girls, or extractive mobs and tyrannical politicians -- they expect nothing except social torture, parasitism, and bullying, mixed up with some menial services that the machines of tomorrow will do better. Their tendency is to find a way to flee.

    For the rest of humanity, exposed ever more clearly as a kind of needy detritus, bullying is all that's left. If they can't find a way to pocket the nerds? lunch-money, they won't be getting anything to eat. From this perspective, an escaping nerd is far more of an intolerable aggression than a policeman?s boot in the teeth. There's only one popular politics at the end of the road, and that's cage the nerds. Find a formulation for this which sounds both convincing and kinda-sorta reasonable, and the red carpet to power is rolled out before your feet.

    Which is it going to be? Starve the masses or enslave the nerds? There's no way this doesn't get incredibly ugly.

    From the Outside in perspective, the fast track to realism on all this is to stop pretending that anybody other than nerds has anything much to offer the future. (Completely devoid of autistic nerd competences ourselves, the detachment from which we speak is impeccable.) This harsh-realist short-cut eliminates all the time-wasting on ?special? things non-nerds can do ? which somehow always end up being closely related to the task of governance (and that, as we have seen, reduces ultimately to intimidating nerds). ?OK, you?re not a nerd, but you?re special.? We?ve all heard that before.

    Even without being an autistic nerd, one can be gifted with some modest measure of intelligence ? enough in any case to realize: "History's shaping itself into some nightmarish nerd-revenge narrative." It doesn't even take an artificial super-intelligence to understand why that should be.
    It's worth noting that Nick Land is also a horror fiction writer lol and it often shows. I really liked the piece he wrote for his old blog about the mermaids. The girl was scared of mermaids and had mermaid paintings all over her walls and part of the fear was in wanting to be a mermaid and the ambiguity with being part Human and part fish. So great symbolically and applies to many people now with various things (reminds me of Jordan Peterson too with how he has communist paintings all over his walls,) but no can't get sidetracked.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...9;Culture_Wars'

    This paper is longform commentary and analysis of Angela Nagle's recent work Kill All Normies Online culture wars from 4chan and Tumblr to Trump and the alt-right. It explores the work's relevance to 'Extreme Masculinties', and places it within the context of the contemporary poltiical situation. The work's main thesis on the aesthetic and libidinal forms and characteristics of the 'Alt-Right' are heavily interrogated and placed within the historical context of previous 'crises' in masculinity. This analysis proceeds to further explore the existence of this contemporary crisis through the broader spectrum of identity politics, and its problematic ideological conflicts and consequences.
    I'm not sure it's a 'crisis of masculinity' research paper I just found. I think some people are just assholes.

    Nerds can be cute if they're not really egotistical. You know like everyone. Lol. I like musicians because they usually have positive nerd qualities with positive artistic qualities. And long hair. I mean musicians are usually creative and can be good at lyrics although in practice they're often not and I think that's because people who are good at making music are also usually good at maths. So they're not 'wordcels' but usually they find someone who is to write their lyrics or someone who can do both. Like Neil Peart wrote the lyrics for Rush because Geddy and Alex weren't interested in doing that but he's also a good drummer.

    I guess Steven Wilson is pretty good at writing lyrics because I assume he wrote most of the later ones and they are good - interesting fictional concepts etc - but the early ones that were more fantastical and read like freewriting (you know my post before, I don't know why everyone's freewriting ends up similar it's freaky. I used to do that too so I know,) he didn't write those. I think. Unless he's lying because he's embarrassed by them which is a possibility but no I think he probably didn't.

    I've been sidetracked though.

    Emily is a living ignition weapon that was made by dissolving a person who could be dissolved and made into a ignition weapon. Emily is essentially a data bank that collects and stores information by answering and asking questions. Rachel use Emily to manipulate fate by feeding Emily information. You know that thing Zahard spent several tens of thousands of years learning how to do but just barely scratching the surface. Rachel does that using Emily but better in literally every way.
    I don't... Think this is the answer I'm looking for.

    OK I think this term is almost exclusive to the political compass reddit, hasn't made it onto twitter at least. And it seems to be someone left wing essentially but beyond that hard to say.

    Emily's commentary on interracial relationships.

    [Some meme I can't be bothered to reupload since reddit is annoying and won't let you easily get image links]

    [Essentially the meme is like the 'emily' character reacting to three people describe their racial preferences in partners and she's annoyed at a a guy who rejected a girl because he was dating someone else and she said it's because she's black, she reacts positively to a woman who says she only dates black guys and then reacts negatively to a guy saying he's into everyone because it's 'objectifying women' So basically this is a strawperson who doesn't exist. Or an insane person that barely exists.]
    "stop objectifying women!"

    thinks porn is empowering

    Peak orange double think.
    Nah its more like their two different schools of thought that can't agree with each other. There are sex positive and sex negative fememisits. Usually, it's not one person. But emily is an amalgamation of opposing social ideas.
    OK maybe that's the point I dunno.

    Jesus, that's a lot of straw.
    I mean the whole Emily meme thing is just to [BEEP] on what they think people on the left side agree on, when in reality it's like a few thousand people on Twitter. A lot of people on Reddit and Twitter seek out content to be outraged by to make them feel better because of their moral higher ground or something.
    Yeah.

    Listen here lefty, the whole reason the Emily meme and orange sub quadrant exist is because the rest of us decided it was in fact unfair to lump you and libleft in with the crazies.

    What more could you possibly ask for?
    Man this is dumb. So much of everything is like this now lol. The Human brain is so easily high-jacked. But if it wasn't entertaining people wouldn't be doing this.

    I've not seen this person though. Or at least there's an implication that these ideas are contradictory but they aren't. The people who are hardcore against men sexualising anyone might also be anti-racist and have the opinion that people are bad for having racial preferences because they're discriminatory.

    This isn't politically correct but whatever:

    Personally I don't care if people have preferences. Though I think if someone is interested in expanding their preferences they could try consuming different media because that sort of worked for me? Though not really. I think I was always sort of into Asian guys and guys with similar physical traits like some Hispanic and Native American guys or some guys who are 'racially ambiguous' from childhood/early teen years because I remember certain films etc... Just wasn't paying attention to them as much since I live in the West where most guys in media are still white. During periods where I was consuming more Asian media I was more into Asian + Eurasian guys.

    It's much more difficult/nearly impossible for me to find black guys attractive (there are a few I thought were sort of cute in my life but even then not intense attraction,) and that probably is partly because of the particular guys I've known and their attitudes + negative stereotypes in the media etc + the association with hyper masculinity as someone who's not into that. Which is why I'm quite sympathetic to left wing black guys I see complaining about that stereotype on YouTube etc. Even though that contradicts the general hysteria about male feminisation from men in general:



    But it works the other way around too the guys who fit that masculine edgy stereotype appeal to women who like hypermasculinity and edgy criminal vibes. But overall I think since it also encourages this kind of edgy criminal stereotype in order to appeal to those women, which is bad for black people because it perpetuates the persona... I don't think it's a plus even though insecure white guys think it is.

    You can compare the kind of image black guys had in the past vs in the 90s and later (though it's probably starting to get better again I dunno,) and it's quite different:



    Such a good song though:



    You can see some guys had a more flamboyant image in the 80s regardless of what the song lyrics were about (also Michael Jackson but probably not the best example at this point lol....)



    And there are retarded guys on social media who say things like this:

    You notice this in music too. You got Chris Brown with "These hoes ain't loyal", Kanye with "Golddigger", Wash with "Can't trust thots", and the whole genre of [gangsta] rap. Meanwhile white dudes are only writing sappy love songs begging for attention or talking in very blue pill ways.
    As I said before first of all white guys have metal and various non sexual/romantic genres of music and genres that don't appeal to women as much and secondly it's incredibly limiting for black guys to only have that one image in music.

    All I can say is as someone who is attracted to guys it turned me off big time.

    Oh and I don't think people's image and their music etc has to be attractive to me I'm not video game guy those mentailities are dumb. I also can't really criticise people for leaning into some kind of edgy stereotype since I've always leaned into the kind of edgy-goth-bisexualish-alternative-non-binary-demon-witch-white femme persona (even before anyone was out as non-binary.) And I also think it's probably fun for some people, and makes them feel empowered. Also not everything everyone does is to be attractive to other people. I get that too. You know nobody finds it attractive but you're compelled to be that way anyway - we've all been there. But if that's the conversation and you expect me to be attracted than I'm going to give you some pointers at least lol. I also think some people are becoming a bit deluded because of porn etc on what is and isn't attractive which is bad if they're doing things not because they want to but because they think it's attractive and then it's not even attractive.

    I also don't expect everyone to be into everyone. It does suck when no one's attracted to you though and sometimes it's for shitty reasons and they actually are racist or transphobic etc like when they're physically attracted to you but then decide they don't like you because you use pronouns and they spend all their time complaining about trans people obviously these things are connected but I don't care because it's mutual. I wouldn't want to date someone like that as we would be incompatible obviously.

    But in general I don't think that's a moral thing because I don't think people have infinite control over their own preferences. There are some things they can do, but it's probably limited. I still probably prefer white people overall.

    With most things I think it's pointless to go after individuals you have to change the incentive structure.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    It turns out that the social media internet may uniquely undermine the way our brains work but not in the way you think. The myth of the filter bubble. You've probably heard about online filter bubbles - algorithms give you exactly what you want, or what they think you want. You only see opinions that agree with yours.
    Oh no I stopped thinking the filter bubble/echo chamber thing was the big issue politically a long time ago if I ever did at all. It was obvious to me that in real life especially in adulthood there are greater selection filters and there were greater selection filters on forums as well on the early internet. Not to mention I mostly see opinions I disagree with online. So how could that be the biggest issue?

    I do think it's possible to form a skewed understanding of minority groups and people unlike you if you're in a bubble. It's possible to overgeneralise certain things and project things about yourself onto other people too. Like Contrapoints and a lot of people think that woman = Tumblr (you can tell because of the 'female gaze' thing where it's predominantly reduced to Tumblr's type and the deviantart type, and then there's a small amount of tiktok stuff which again is different thrown in too.) It's not the crux of why people are so angry and think a civil war is going to break out though.

    This is why Elon Musk confuses me. On the one hand isn't he supposed to be intelligent, on the other how does he not realise by bringing everyone back to twitter it's going to make this problem worse? They were supposed to leave and make their own websites.

    Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    I dunno...

    Another thing is people self censor more irl than they do online.

    But yeah that's why I think AI should be used to do that again online. Not everyone wants to communicate in an IM chat sense like Discord but forums are dead so... Tumblr is better at filtering people. But that's because Tumblr itself was created to be in-between social media and blogging:



    In spite of that I think it was pretty bad for some people back in the day, but when I started using that site more actively in 2016 it was already post-peak (I had accounts before then but wasn't really active.) Then I disappeared mostly from Tumblr for a few years, now use it occasionally again. At this point I think a lot of the angry stuff that was on Tumblr has moved to twitter and it's also very easy to avoid most ingroup arguments on the site too. I would never suggest conservative people use it though it would just drive them insane.

    Actually I should be more clear. Tumblr isn't better at filtering people for the most part - people are better at filtering themselves before going to Tumblr because of the reputation + the site doesn't function quite the same as other social media sites it seems algorithmically speaking. It's vaguely like a blogging site but more image based comparatively.

    I think the funniest thing about tumblr is that the original creator is tumblr's 'type.' Selection bubbles are funny.

    Also I have multiple twitter accounts if I click who I'm following on my gaming account (as opposed to the 'for you filter' which is less good.) I get posts like.. This isn't someone I'm following - this was retweeted by someone I'm following:

    HE FUCKING UNMATCHED WITH ME HOLY [BEEP] 😆😆😆
    A man on hinge said 'talk nerdy to me', so I sent this?

    Obviously he was looking for someone to send him maths equations. #wordcel. I'm genuinely curious about what he actually meant by that and was looking for though lol.

    This is probably the most off topic thing I get if I look through my following feed and it still makes a lot of sense to me as being something that would appear on a timeline for someone like me. Also this is much funnier than what other women post. Other off topic stuff I get is like female pop star news that I don't care about especially when I'm scrolling through Sims stuff it's not what I'm looking for. But that's not anger inducing for me, it's just mildly irritating because it's not what I'm looking for.

    But the 'for you' filter will be less successful in this sense potentially because it will be based on accounts that are popular + accounts that you might have looked up while logged into that account if they're also popular and also other connected stuff that might be less than ideal or anger inducing. So for example I get shoeonhead suggested to me if I look now on my gaming account. And she's like technically in my filter bubble approximately but much less. So she likes trad wife aesthetics but she also likes all the alt-girl stuff to some extent she's like someone who could have ended up on Tumblr but instead went to 4chan and certain male typical websites and absorbed some of those cultural norms alongside alt girl stuff. So she's ambiguous which is why she has such large appeal and following. But she also tweets and responds to a lot of stuff that's outside of my filter bubble entirely because she's a political commentator who talks to a lot of right wing figures and her husband is conservative. Some people who like her are people I can't stand lol. And same for other people who are following her in the opposite direction. So through accounts like this it opens you up to like anger inducing stuff because you'll find the accounts you disagree with more and start reading them.

    There's also stuff in my for you timeline that I know I haven't clicked on before but is still there like an account called 'delusional takes' which is an account that a couple of people on my following list follow those accounts definitely don't post about some of the stuff they follow on their account (because they're not political accounts lol,) like one person I'm following is pretty big figure in this community and follows shoeonhead and I know a lot of people would dislike shoeonhead among progressives.

    Also the delusional takes twitter page is clearly something designed to piss certain people off.

    The stuff being posted there is like a mixture of sort of MRA takes that don't really annoy me but would annoy a lot of people. Stuff like posts about women doing/saying bad stuff, or Billie Eilish's comments about male bodies - I'm not pissed off by it but I also don't endorse their behaviour or necessarily agree with their opinions like encouraging cheating or saying nobody insults male bodies. They also post absurd inclusive type tweets like someone saying 'zoophobes are bigoted nazis' which I again don't care about it doesn't make me angry but I know it would annoy a lot of right wing or right wing-adj or centrist people certain subgroups of people. I think saying they're nazis is silly because it's a very specific ideology but I've said my opinions on this before it's logically inconsistent to get mad about zoophiles in a world with mass animal slaughter and consumption. I also don't get angry at zoophobes though because I'm not a zoophile so it's not personal for me. I just think it's a logically inconsistent viewpoint most of the time. Some comment by Megan Rapinoe (I don't know who she is,) about religion that I don't understand and cba trying to figure out. So it's a lot of stuff that women have said publicly.

    A lot of women will be annoyed by this because they're posting bad stuff about women, but also a lot of men because they're posting bad stuff about women lol. So they dislike it for different reasons but it's going to piss them all off regardless.

    They also post some of the absurd takes that some left wing people might come out with like this:



    I also think a lot of people posting this stuff are probably trolling.

    So with anything like this you have the people who are annoyed (to varying degrees,) because they're posting stuff in a one sided way often that is clearly designed to push a larger agenda in a tribalistic sense and even if they agree with some posts they don't agree with 'what they're clearly doing there.' You also get the people who 'fucking hate people like that' and are furious that anyone is posting the opinion. You also get the people who are pissed off because it's personal for them and they're part of the group being described so will be even more bothered.

    If you have a twitter account for cultural discourse a lot of stuff you're suggested will be outside your filter bubble. And since Elon Musk took over this has extended even more so there used to be a lot more ingroup fighting now I'm seeing like white nationalist tweets regularly when I'm on the site. All kinds of [BEEP] lol. It has to be fairly personal before I'll generally get very pissed off though - even that depends on my mood. I find a lot of stuff interesting to read even if it annoys me or I disagree with it. There's also the very obvious game aspect to it all. Which is why it's 'addictive.' When I browse white nationalist accounts or popular tweets about race. I frequently see raceplay fetish accounts that are all about black guys cucking white guys with white women engaging them and they know what they're doing lol. Likewise:



    It's very destructive but it can be quite fun.



    "Weddings are more about the bride"
    I feel like it should be about both though if you're going to have a wedding in the first place. He also says he'd get married in some guy's trailer which is funny because he's saying this as like an example of a non-fancy place, but I actually like that aesthetic a lot and microhomes etc.

    He looks good in a suit though, but he thinks he looks bad. 11:27 especially but he's also wearing glasses so I'm biased lol. Oh just noticed that video is disabled for playback on other sites. OK like this:



    I mean if he doesn't want to wear a suit that's fine but I think he looks good.

    Could do what IAMX did for a while and wear a suit jacket with fishnets lol.

    I'm trying to find an example... Woah how did that post I made with a quote from 2016 get 143 reblogs/likes I never noticed lol. Scrolling... Oh OK so I misremembered the outfit he's actually just wearing tight black leggings or something:



    He was wearing that combination in this video though which is a bit uh sexual and chaotic:



    The messiness takes away from the sexual element for me but I think a lot of this stuff is actually niche kinks.

    I knew this hair was going to come back into fashion right about now:



    He invented this:





    No he didn't. But he was hot. They're all following Geddy's hair history (they're not but I see a lot of different people with one of his aesthetics at different points in time mostly glasses + hair and it's funny) I can't decide between that hair and this one:



    Also this hair I guess is kind of different:



    Other unrelated images:





    Long hair. 🥰

    I am so easily distracted it's actually insane.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    They should say WoW instead of Warcraft really. I knew that they were talking about WoW before even watching the video but Warcraft is technically a separate series of RTS games.



    Also I haven't watched this video yet and it's long... So:



    I played WoW casually from 2009-2012 and I didn't encounter many issues. I think only one person insulted me in all that time lol? Just doing dungeons etc with random strangers, some pvp stuff, and now and then playing with some people I knew irl, but I never took part in any raids and I very much got the sense that if you wanted to play it seriously it would become like a full time job. Like I know there were guilds that basically required the equivalent of a CV to join lol.

    It was never super addictive for me even though I obviously have a personality type that lends itself to obsession. But it was a lot of fun and sometimes I miss it but I now feel like it would be difficult to get back into it since there have been so many expansions etc. It feels overwhelming thinking about playing it because there's just so much stuff. You know? This wasn't really a feeling I had back in 2009 though. In 2009 I had wanted to play it for years but wasn't able to as a teenager due to the subscription situation (my parents wouldn't have agreed to that,) but then I started uni and was 18 so was like 'I'm going to do it.'

    Also it has a great soundtrack (one of the best soundtracks of any game imo,) so I sometimes listen to those music tracks now and then.

    This is one of my favourite tracks:



    But the Eversong Woods music is the most nostalgic because my first character/main was a blood elf (warlock) lol:



    I also loosely keep up with the lore now and then. They've made some more dramatic permanent changes compared to other mmos:



    RIP.

    Many other tracks I won't post lol.

    Also yeah being a casual player I never really developed a hardcore bias for one side over the other to the point of developing some kind of weird animosity lol (some people do but it's probably mostly role playing.) There are certain races I like more than others on both sides - Night Elves, Blood Elves (so elves lol,) Trolls (Night Elves* are descended from Trolls actually lol,) Tauren (I like the nature focussed races yes,) and Forsaken (edgy scientists.) Worgen are kind of cool too I guess because of the gothic vibes (I mean that in the classic sense not the 80s music subculture,) but I don't like them as much.

    *Well technically all Elves must be since all elves are related but people highlight Night Elves because they're part of the opposite faction I guess. Blood elves taunt Night Elves about that I think in game because they don't get on.

    I made a joke group on social media about Pandarens being a race before they did that and then stopped playing before the Mists of Pandaria pack was released lol.... I guess I probably would have liked them too mostly because I like pandas but it is silly that they made them a playable race. Definitely leaning into comic fantasy vibes.

    I also wanted Vol'jin to become Warchief of the Horde but also left before that happened, and earlier this year someone responded to some old [BEEP] comment from a decade+ ago that I made about that on a YouTube video lol. Like 'oh boy do I got news' yeah I know bummer. I get a bunch of comments now and then on really old comments now which is funny/weird. Also weird to stumble on some video and see some comment that I made a decade+ ago and forgot about. I think on occasion I don't agree with myself which is more amusing. (YouTube now highlights the comments at the top if you're logged into that account.)

    I liked the Cenarion Circle + Cenarion Expedition a lot because it had like Night Elves and Tauren druids working together. Also the druid class later expanded to other races too:

    The Cenarion Circle (or simply the Circle)[2] is a harmonious order that guides and keeps watch over the world's druids and their practices.[3] The organization mostly consists of druids, with members of the tauren, jungle troll, night elf, and worgen races. It is named after Cenarius.
    Upon the reopening of the Dark Portal to Outland, the Cenarion Circle dispatched an exploratory force, known as the Cenarion Expedition, to explore the uncharted world. Much like the Circle, it is a coalition of night elf and tauren forces. The Expedition maintains its primary base at Cenarion Refuge in Zangarmarsh; it has also made its presence known on Hellfire Peninsula, in Terokkar Forest, and in the Blade's Edge Mountains. Cenarion Refuge is located immediately west of Thornfang Hill.
    Um this is what I mean when I say some people take the tribal thing very seriously (but again I think a lot of it is roleplaying but they post like this online lol):

    Remove the Horde from the Cenarion Circle

    Under Alliance leadership, the Cenarion Circle has proven incompetent time and time again. Alliance lead Druidism is a joke.

    : x : Safeguard the Dream
    : x : Keep Ysera Alive
    : x : Regrow the Southern Barrens
    : x : Heal the Blasted Lands
    : x : Allowed a Corrupted Teldrassil to exist
    : x : : x :Keep Cenarius Alive

    Time and time again the Cenarion Circle has failed at it’s duties. We have also learned that Cenarius is a false teacher and that Malfurion is not the first druid, simply the first to be labeled as “druid” by Cenarius but Druidic magic and shape shifting has existed since time immemorial. The Horde no longer desires to follow the false teachings of Cenarius and wish to start their own Druidic faction (of which will consist of the same Druids but without the Alliance and you will once again start at Neutral and need to grind to exalted if you want the mount).
    The Horde no longer desires to follow the false teachings of Cenarius and wish to start their own Druidic faction (of which will consist of the same Druids but without the Alliance and you will once again start at Neutral and need to grind to exalted if you want the mount).
    Speak for yourself. If history were to repeat itself, the leader of the sect of Horde Druids would go insane and become a raid boss a few expansions later, forcing the Horde and Alliance to work together to defeat them only to put another leader in power that’ll die to deus ex machina poison that was never seen before and is never seen after the death, only to replace that leader with another nut job.

    The Horde cannot be trusted for anything, Blizzard has seen fit to write that over the past four expansions and eight years. The only reason the Horde even still exists is because Blizzard has to write the Alliance in such a backwards way to make it believable that the Horde is a threat at all (which is laughable). Considering the fact we are also the faction that accepts the Forsaken, who willfully and happily blight the world and kill the land, it doesn’t exactly lead to Druidism.

    While I do hate Malfurion, and consider him to be one of the most poorly written characters still alive, he’s still more trustworthy than the inevitable Hamuul going evil storyline that Blizzard would shoehorn into this Horde Druid faction.
    It's pretty funny. It's also not the best example though, more an example of the roleplayish way people post. I'm not going to go around looking for examples right now just found that while googling things just now.

    Zangarmarsh was really cool (a lot of my artwork for a while had a similar glowy aesthetic it's also similar to The Shivering Isles Oblivion expansion a bit at night):



    Sporelings are a mostly peaceful race of diminutive mushroom-men native to Outland,[1] formerly Draenor. Their capital, Sporeggar, is located in the western bogs of Zangarmarsh.

    While fearful of travelers (especially those significantly larger than them), the sporelings are quick to welcome anyone to help them. They are beset by many enemies, including the fungal giants, spore walkers, marsh beasts and more recently the naga, leading them to ask for aid from passing adventurers.
    I like mushrooms. Runescape has Zygomites. I also like the mooshrooms in Minecraft even though I don't play lol. They have sporelings in that game too I think (mushroom people.)

    But that also reminds me of an area of Runescape Mazcab with the Goebies. It's very different geographically and everything and Goebies aren't mushroom people, but from what I remember there was a similar vibe.



    I still play Runescape but that's because it's really easy to play it casually. Most of the time I'm not even playing honestly at this point just playing some random seasonal events, occasionally playing quests, doing stuff to get certain cosmetic overrides, getting gp so I can eventually get a party hat, and doing other stuff to get enough gp to keep my membership without having to pay real world money.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    This is one of the craziest scenes:



    :edit Yes, I was determined to post that video.

    Also, I had a mini glitch in the matrix. I randomly said swoosh to my cat while petting his head, which made me think of Sploosh from the book/movie Holes. Then like 5 minutes later, I found an album with a song called Sploosh.
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