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    "I have far more in common with the average millennial than the youngest gen z who is currently 11 years old, duel screening twirking among us animations and pregnant Elsa Spiderman videos."

    I can tell her approximate age from the glasses and other details though lol. I'd guess 24 at the youngest to about 27. So she said she's not 27 yet I'm thinking 24.

    Do 11 year olds still count as gen z? I figured they might be gen alpha now but maybe not. They're right things are moving too quickly for such large windows to make sense, not that the labels in general are really great or mean anything beyond marketing related stuff and I had dialup internet in my home until 2009 lol.

    Well I can safely say I've never duel screened that. Also duel screen to me is like two desktop monitors not what they're probably doing involving some combinations of handhelds. So there's that.

    Tiktok is weird man. Remembering the time I stumbled on some twitter thread where people were showing a bunch of tiktok videos that were like some weird thing where people were filming themselves falling into water and I don't even remember the details now just that it was really weird and involved emojis.

    "This person is 27"

    Does that count? Hmm if they were born in the very last year I guess so. Someone invented 'zillenial' though and so I'm gatekeeping them out lol. /s

    "As a 28 year old toddler."

    Ah I'm getting the impression this is all "zillenials" lol. Makes sense since it's tiktok.

    People also post absolutely whatever on that site for better or worse. It's probably ultimately a good thing because it will just disensitise people who tend to overreact eventually. Hopefully. Probably not lol.

    It?s so weird being a millennial (27)and growing up with my gen z siblings (25, 18 ) and seeing all this discourse between the generations. We have the same humor for the most part but have never felt the need to rip into each other the way people on social media seem to be doing. I genuinely believe there?s a lot more in common between the two than there are differences. But maybe it?s like what my dad said about my mom and I, ?you two are so alike that you butt heads?.
    It's really not useful at all if you're on the border or something. Like when you're somehow supposed to be in a different generation from your sibling who was raised in the same way as you because you're like a year and a half apart in age anyway lol... I don't even remember the period when my brother wasn't born lol. I think my earliest memories are from like 1995.

    "Not every millennial is having a breakdown at Harry Potter world."

    Lol I did actually have a breakdown after watching the first Fantastic Beasts film in the cinema in 2016 which was also the last Harry Potter film I watched at the cinema. I don't entirely know why though and it seems dumb now anyway. My brother said he thought I was going to have a panic attack after suggesting we leave the shopping centre. I wasn't though (since I've had some since then which were pretty different.) I dunno I just like got really weird emotionally but my memory also isn't great so can't really remember now either in detail.

    I dunno maybe I was just psychically predicting the future with JK Rowling haha.

    If I was experiencing something like that the last thing I'd want is for that to be filmed and for it end up on the internet.

    So the hot comedian is the guy on the left? And he cut his hair and got plastic surgery?



    Oh no I see the guy with long hair is the YouTuber.

    I really don't care about the topic of this video but I do appreciate the Lucifer 'The Fallen Angel' painting in the background. And also obviously the hair.

    I'm so thankful my lesbianism has left me immune to the pretty boy effect. I've never heard Matt Rife tell one truly funny "joke" so I never jumped onto the bandwagon even as I was being slapped in the face with video after video of handsome squidward.
    Don't worry you don't have to be a lesbian to be immune to that flavour of guy. My favourite flavour of guy is probably lemon or raspberry. Strawberries are cute but not that great a flavour. I like sharp tasting stuff. Now I want to eat a cheesecake or my lemon scented shower gel that smells like lemon cheesecake or something like that. And it's all my fault. Well mostly my fault and also the company that makes the shower gel. I appreciate that they're trying to encourage cannibalism but at what cost?

    Well, lesbians and sapphics can find pretty boys pretty but it'd be weird to be attracted to them.
    Huge difference between being attracted to someone, and finding someone attractive.

    Though I have seen lots of lesbians find it ok to thirst over fictional men? like girl 😭
    unrelated sorry
    Why would it be weird for sapphics? Doesn't sapphic include bisexuals etc?

    There are feminine men and non afab people. If a lesbian was attracted to a cis guy that looks feminine i don't see how it changes their sexuality. Some are totally uninterested in men. Fictional men are a different story, my last hope in men.
    I dunno if this has to happen every time someone brings up the word lesbian lol. I guess so.

    So lesbian and sapphic aren't synonyms and presumably lesbian should exclude attraction to men but sapphic wouldn't necessarily:

    Sapphic is an umbrella term that includes lesbian, bisexual, and pansexual trans femmes, mascs, nonbinary folks, and cis women. Yet unlike these sexualities, "sapphic" strives to conjure an experience more akin to an intention toward attraction -- one oriented less to any specific gender identity and more to the fullness of a potential lovers' humanity.
    The word "sapphic" is often confused for "lesbian" or thought to be the same thing. They historically were equivalent, but because they have accumulated multiple definitions, their meanings are ambiguous without specifying which definitions are used.[1]
    No one really uses the word "sapphic" anymore. I understand why ? it has an air of exoticization about it, and its roots, which seem at first glance so straightforward, are pretty twisted when you trace them back. The best-known legend about Sappho has her pining so hard for a man she throws herself off a cliff, which tangles the common modern connotation of "sapphic" to mean "lesbian" and not more broadly women's attraction to other women.
    Most identified as women (79.5% ) and/or gender(s) that do not fit the binary (39.4% ). Four people (3.6% ) identified as men.
    Most identified as [BEEP] (53.6% ), followed by lesbian (44.6% ), bisexual (39.3% ), gay (16.1% ) pansexual (13.4% ), and straight (1.8% ). Additionally, 13.4% of respondents identified as asexual, demisexual, and/or demi-romantic.
    Most were under 39 years old (83.1% ), split evenly between twentysomethings and thirtysomethings (plus one person under 20). 10.7% were in their 40s, and 6.3% were over 50.
    Something like that I guess.

    Not even going to get into 'if he's feminine they're still a lesbian.' So much of social media discourse is the 'femboy question' lol. You know I think someone created a label. Though gynesexual means something different in clinical research I think:

    Gynesexual is a sexual orientation where a person is attracted to women, females, and/or femininity.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] There are other prefixes that are sometimes used instead of gyne- to express the same range of attraction, such as gyno-,[8] and woma-. It describes a person's attractions without specifying their own gender.[1]
    Still a subset of bisexuality though.

    I love how quickly females switch up and say he's not all that, realistically Matt rice has officially gotten his good fanbase instead of females who objectify him and like him cause he's hot, he's funny and has a dedicated fanbase only small minded offended people hate
    I'm sure he has lots of female fans but I always find guys who look like that unattractive. He's not the first I've seen with that look also I've never heard of this guy. I only clicked on this video because I saw a guy with long hair.

    But yeah I'm not really into facial hair, or this guy's personality/vibe. The comedian I also don't find offensive or funny based on the 10 minutes of this video I watched.

    I don't know that I'll be seeking out further content from either of them so I guess I'll just wait for YouTube to suggest me some video by someone else who is 23~ years old and/or has glasses. Seems to be a pattern.

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Lol his video analytics for The Dangerous Myths of Black Men's Sexuality which is a video I've watched a few times has 0% audience with a user-specified gender but I've watched it a bunch of times and have a user specified gender. Lies. Obviously needs more people to increase the percentage but in literal terms it's not 0 lol.

    Also yeah I'm white so not a black man or woman.

    "I can guarantee you one of the top comments you're gonna see in this comment section is what the [BEEP] is a divestor? Nobody knows about these women except y'all."

    Unfortunately I do know. If there's some fucked up thing online I've generally stumbled on it because I'm very online lol. I've read some fucked up things on twitter from most groups of people at this point and that includes some very fucked up comments from women connected to that group like some of them are obviously psychopaths.. But also because I'm curious about all the delusional racial dating takes and racial tribalism when it comes to dating. Especially the weird amount of sexual insecurity some white guys have.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    "Today the core consumers of interracial porn tend to be white men and black men's sexuality and penises if the internet is any indication are always on white men's minds."
    It does seem that way online doesn't it? Straight incel/incel-adj/red pill guys mostly.

    But that is not to say that this same paraphilia and fetishisation doesn't happen with white women because it definitely does. They are raised in the same racist environment as their male counterparts. I've spoken before about being groped in public by white women I did not know or followed around public venues and I know that I'm not alone in that experience.
    All that said at the same time we have to be honest about how some black men respond to this fetishisation positively. If you go to that black men's sexuality video I made you'll see plenty of black men arguing in the comments that the myth of black men's sexual prowess is a positive stereotype that should for some reason be embraced and that's because to some black men the validation and affection of white women or really just any non-black women is proof that they matter, that they are valued. And it feels like far too many black men who date out make it their entire personality and cannot go five minutes without telling the world how much better white women or Latina women are to black women and this is probably the most prominent point of conflict of interracial relationships for black people.
    I think the stereotype/persona is really gross it's origin in like racist colonial thinking is really gross. It's just gross and as a (? somewhat feminine anyway) white non-binary person I also don't like being treated as an object black and white guys compete over. This is one of many reasons I don't like masculine guys.

    I think this fantasy has some kind of emasculating thing about it too which I personally don't like. Not just for the white guy but also for the 'object' in the fantasy. So if I put myself into that position it's not satisfying or comfortable. I don't think everyone would be bothered by that though. But I think it's still kind of disregarding the preferences and desires of the woman or whoever is in that scenario. The straight male idea of what is an attractive man is projected onto the feminine person whether they agree or not and usually this is some hyper masculine guy and their masculinity is exaggerated further in a way the person might not even find attractive and then they're an object being fought over during a form of competition that is usually (but not always,) between men. It's all about men and their masculinity.

    So that's one side of it/view.

    Another side of it is some feminine people actually like this, they like being fought over and things like that, it makes them feel special.

    I don't mind the possessive thing at least in fantasy - I think it would be very annoying and controlling in most real life situations - but even in fantasy it's on an individual mutual level most of the time. Like I like when characters get jealous in stories I'm reading regardless of the genders of the characters and even both characters when it's straight fiction. Because I like monogamy. I don't like the kind of one sided 'I'm masculine and own you, in fact not only do I own you I own this entire race of women.' And it always seems to go along with a bunch of other sexist and homophobic beliefs as well every single time. Never came across a white nationalist who wasn't also a huge fucking sexist and very homophobic and insecure about their own masculinity.

    And maybe monogamy is a microcosmic version of the same problem I'm sure a lot of people have made this case. It's not even exclusive to monogamy though because if you have a committed poly relationship where people still experience jealousy and agree not to date outside of that group it's the same thing with slightly more people. And casual sex doesn't interest me. But I think I've kind of veered off topic here because you can have a mutual monogamous relationship without hierarchical baggage.

    Then I don't like real life race play or racial competition because I think it's quite toxic and I'm not keen on hyper masculine personas as I've said like an excessive fixation on the body over the mind I guess. But if there's some kind of role reversal situation then I could find that appealing from multiple points of view I'm sure. I mean I like femdom so it's not a reach.

    Or if it's fantasy races I'm sure I could see the appeal somewhat. I like fiction with elves and Humans or blood elves and night elves. I went through a phase of reading stories about Altmer and Bretons. I like the kind of enemies hooking up dynamic or people from two opposing factions and things like that because it makes the story more dramatic I guess. And I suppose there's some kind of symbolic optimism there or something. Like the same mentality that leads people to create things like that subreddit called 'gatekeeping yuri.' where they just turn competition into some friendly exchange or even sexualise it. And I do tend to instinctively sexualise rivals a lot I've always done that mostly with men but even sometimes female on female competition like with Sylvia Plath poetry. Even without knowing that's what it was. Hilarious.

    Oh also I'm really into corruption as a kink and people converting from one side of some fight or war to the other which I'm sure has overlaps. Usually the focus is either on gender like that one audio file with the guy who was a masculine soldier and then turned into a sissy sex slave for the opposing side by a woman and the implication there was like that one side of the war created pro-masculine propaganda, the other side did the opposite or weaponised the opposite I guess. (The gender culture war in fetish form.) This doesn't work as a complete reversal because there's the constant reference to other guys who are going to use them sexually. Oh women are going to use them sexually too but still so are people with dicks. It's hard to get away from dicks I think for a lot of people.

    And then you know when I was a teenager I was coming up with way more abstract fantasies of like male plant elf characters who live in the forest capturing Human men to 'convert them' and there was a kind of war between technology and Human culture and the natural forest culture. You know something that Jordan Peterson would go on a never ending rant about especially after he realised that in at least one story I wrote with a similar character they were intersex (because sometimes I wrote them to be more androgynous than at other times physiologically and also in terms of attitude they were always somewhat androgynous though,) 'You're mind is being controlled by a sex goddess.'

    He goes into this at least a bit in this video (he does in a bunch but I remember it coming up in this one too lol):



    'THAT'S A FORM OF NATURE WORSHIP WHICH IS ACCOMPANIED BY CHILD SACRIFICE WHICH IS NOT THE LEAST BIT SURPRISING'



    I say this all the time now but especially in the above video I need him to chill a bit though because he just exudes bad vibes and negative energy.

    Waiting for him to bring up Lilith or something. In 5 years maybe. Because he talks about all the pieces separately. He just doesn't kind of string them together and perhaps that's a tactical decision I don't know. Either way it's not new lol.

    Inanna would make way more sense honestly but he's quite set on Christianity.

    SHE WANTED TO USE A STRAP ON AND THEN SHE TRIED TO SEDUCE EVE WITH AN APPLE. BECAUSE NATURE IS EVIL AND THAT'S WHY SHE'S GOING TO KILL ALL THE CHILDREN AND SACRIFICE THEM TO THE CULT OF GENDER FLUIDITY POSTMODERN MARXIST DRAGONS-







    THE OVERWHELMING AND COLLECTIVE MURDER AND THEY DON'T SING THEY JUST SCREECH IN PAIN. YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

    He should borrow some lines from Herzog. Herzog has the best energy though. It's so funny.



    I love him.

    So that's another side of it.

    Then there's a third side below:

    I can see why a lot of black men enjoy that hypermasculine/hypersexual persona though because it comes with some appeal for some women (not as many as people seem to think, but there's a subset who like that persona.) And it gives them a unique way to stand out in dating/sex and compete with other men since they tend to be socioeconomically disadvantaged etc.

    I also get it because the idea of 'cucking' or winning some kind of competition against masculine white guys is fun. Like I've entertained similar power fantasies - mostly in the abstract - but regarding gender expression not race (obviously, I'm white.)

    Also in Warhammer 40k (why is it always fantasy lol,) there's some kind of weird thing with Slaanesh, Isha and Nurgle:

    Isha is the Aeldari goddess of the harvest, fertility, nature, life, healing and growth and the divine mother of the Aeldari species in Aeldari Mythology. She is the mate of Kurnous, the god of the hunt.
    The Fall of the Aeldari in the early 30th Millennium was signalled by the birth-scream of Slaanesh, a tsunami of emotion and psychic power that heralded the Prince of Pleasure's arrival in the Realm of Chaos even as it shaped a new dominion within that dimension to serve as its home, the Dark Prince's Realm. The psychic implosion caused by Slaanesh's birth swallowed hundreds of worlds at the heart of the Aeldari Empire in what is now the Imperium of Man's Segmentum Obscurus.

    The blast killed billions of Aeldari in a single instant and devoured a great section of the galaxy in the process. Such was its ferocity that it overwhelmed the barrier between the material and the immaterial, forming the massive, permanent Warp rift later named by Humanity as the "Eye of Terror." Rampant and hungry, Slaanesh devoured the minds and souls of the Aeldari, absorbing them into its essence. Across the galaxy, that ancient species was almost wiped out.
    from the moment Slaanesh started existing, then it had always existed.
    So the warp is weird as hell. Slaanesh has always existed in the warp, even if they had a birth at a certain point.
    This is actually how most ideas work because nothing is really new.

    What fell purpose Slaanesh had in keeping Isha alive, none amongst the Aeldari now know, but the Prince of Pleasure was ultimately denied its spoils: for some reason, Nurgle, the Plague Lord, waged war against Slaanesh to "rescue" the Aeldari goddess. Why Grandfather Nurgle intervened is unclear, although some Aeldari savants believe that one of the oldest of the major Chaos Gods wanted to give the youngest amongst them a good lesson about his proper place in the order of things.

    What is known is that Nurgle's daemonic forces proved victorious and he took the Aeldari goddess back to his domain in the Realm of Chaos. A goddess of rejuvenation and a god of decay seemed an odd pairing, but Nurgle came to adore his new companion like no other being in the universe.

    However, he shows his love in the only way a Chaos God knows how. Nurgle keeps Isha imprisoned in a rusted cage within his personal manse in the corner of his Plague Gardens. It is there that he keeps the cauldron where he mixes the elements that create all of his plagues and pestilences. Nurgle tests all of his new, virulent creations upon the body of his "companion."

    As the goddess of healing and the spiritual embodiment of health and growth, Isha can cure herself of these afflictions, but the Plague Lord gains an idea of their potency by watching how much power the Aeldari goddess must expend to cure herself. If he is pleased with how hard Isha must struggle to conquer the disease, Nurgle releases the new creation upon some unsuspecting world, but if not, he starts over, working at his cauldron until he has something new to give to his companion.

    Isha accepts her lot stoically and fights back against the Plague God's evil in the same way she once fought against Khaine, whispering the cures to these new diseases into the universe so that mortals might know them and resist the hideous designs of Grandfather Nurgle.
    So it reads like a hero story only Isha is trapped and imprisoned by Nurgle not really saved. So there is no hero.



    IKnowI'mNotAHero - The Virus and the Antidote

    I know I'm not a hero
    I know I'm not a hero
    I know I'm not a hero
    I know I'm not a prince in shining white
    Steppin' off a horse to make you mine
    Yeah, I know I'm not a hero
    I know I'm not a hero
    (But I'll save you tonight)


    There wasn't enough music in this post? Lol. It fits what I was talking about. Viruses, and antidotes and cages lol. I like how they sampled The Smashing Pumpkins song too:



    And I liked the idea of her being corrupted by Slaanesh. Obviously. But no one else likes this idea because to this day there are 0 fanfics, or anything anywhere about this. Lol. There aren't even 'dozens of us' it's just me.

    Ashnikko as I pointed out before also seems to be a bit uh fixated on stealing people's girlfriends in their lyrics too lol and we don't know who she's talking to technically but... We kind of do. I mean. They're genderfluid and a lot of their lyrics in their earlier work are aggressive messages to men so it's strongly implied imo lol:

    Me and your girlfriend playin' dress up in my house
    I gave your girlfriend cunnilingus on my couch


    Tell me what you need
    Tell it to my manager, he'll tell you pay a fee
    Ooh, I [BEEP] it up, I can't wait for you to see
    You said your girlfriend wanna marry you
    But now she's here with me


    I'ma blow up on 'em
    Blow up on 'em
    Blow a kiss to your girl


    I'm a 38 cis male metalhead. And I Fucking Love Ashnikko and Her Music! I am worried she is going to steal my wife.
    Does it work as well if you're femme and afab? No. No it does not lol. Even being femme on its own is a disadvantage but now you don't even have a dick. That's an extreme subversion of stereotypes. You're basically an alien lol. But that's not going to stop people thinking in these ways.

    Straight male who loves all things "masculine" and major death metal fan. Ashnikko still my most listened to on Spotify Wrapped
    It's technically a form of masculinity as much as it's also the opposite.

    31 year old cis male, also a metalhead, also love Ashnikko's music.
    Lol why does she have so many metal fans is it cause of that video?



    (Besides metal heads often commenting everywhere online when they listen to music that isn't metal I guess.)

    No one is actually threatened by this though because we live in a phallocentric culture and it's probably innate anyway the phallocentrism. Except that weird guy the bisexual woman on reddit was dating who kept trying to get her to hook up with random femme women he knew who weren't her type, and then apparently expressed constant fears about her running off with a butch woman or something like that. Because they're masculine. And Ross from Friends.

    That's also why the racial aspect is always going to be bigger. It's more threatening to hegemony. Sexually but also territorially speaking. And as much as some right wing people complain homonationalism (in a literal sense not in the sense that wikipedia describes,) is not a thing exactly so - they're trying to make it a thing narratively speaking and that's very funny:



    but we have no land lol. Unless you count that one Australian island and anyway there's too much infighting among LGBT people for that to make sense. You are giving people (myself included,) ideas though and you should stop because I'll turn anything into a game. Especially when you've given yourself the name Sargon of Akkad which is the most ironic thing ever. Because he worshipped Inanna. But I've gone into this before.

    Also Ashnikko's girlfriend is like a soft butch bisexual woman. So is she running off with some straight guy's girlfriend? Probably not. At least for now. She's not Kristen Stewart. (I don't mean because she steals guy's partners but because she's been in relationships with bisexual or sexually fluid femme women sometimes like Stella Maxwell so they have overlapping dating pools. She cheated on Robert Patterson with another guy but I don't think she's dated any women in relationships with men afaik.)

    I don't think straight guys have to challenge this mentality though because they can find women who are OK with this competition or who even find it sexually appealing as they write some kind of essay in a 1980s newspaper about how much they love war cause they get to kill and 'steal each other's women' or something. Divorce their socially appropriate wife with the graduate degrees and marry a Vietnamese woman who works in a bar. This is actually one of the less radical stories about war, a lot of guys in some armies just rape women en masse instead (well that happened where my nan lived after the war. 'After the war' yeah lol.) And the various modern day equivalent manifestos and internet posts. And they're not attracted to men at all so they don't have to negotiate and they often won't. If you're attracted to guys this becomes a problem so then you either have to avoid other masculine guys like this or not date men lol. And some bisexual women do choose not to date men because there are certain gender dynamics they dislike, not because they're not attracted to men.

    This is another variant of a similar sort of thing probably more common in Europe? And I like it even less:



    "It's their unconscious wish for brutal male domination."

    And he somehow manages to deliver this line with the sulkiest teenage boy voice you could imagine.



    Jordan Peterson never recovered from the stereotype that Canadians are nice.

    Then in response the other guy is like "I like that, it's fun." I'm going to come back to "It's fun."

    From Jordan Peterson's subreddit:

    Why Western Women Are Converting to Islam
    As expected, women seek strong masculine authoritarian figures irregardless of what your usual blue-haired woke feminist wants to babbler about, or the betaboys jumping in to White Knight them in hopes for a little smooch as a reward say. The West has become meek and helpless.

    The solution is simple.

    Bring Back to Holy Crusades. Bring Back masculinity to Christianity instead of these grotesque bishops bending the knee to the transexuals. Our Youth needs templars, not pastors that cuck down to globalism.


    Can't you just pretend to be a bunny boy that lives in the forest?

    After taking a wrong turn in the woods, a Huntress finds herself accidentally ensnared in her own trap. Fortunately a friendly forest dwelling bunny boy stumbles upon her in her precarious position. What will it take for her to convince him to help her out?
    And then record yourself moaning?

    "Shut up. Of course my tail would be up in the air. It's just that the angle's a bit awkward so. Hey what do you think you're doing? Sitting up? You're in no shape to move at that angle. I- what's the big idea? You think just because you're some big, bad huntress you can just pin down any bunny boy you happen to get a little flustered?"

    No, I guess you'd already be doing that if you could. Never mind then.

    It's just not very creative.

    Apparently Ted Kaczynski died last June and I didn't even hear about that lol. I'm dedicating this forest bunny porn I didn't create to you Ted.

    For a period of several weeks in 1966, Kaczynski experienced intense sexual fantasies of being female and decided to undergo gender transition. He arranged to meet with a psychiatrist but changed his mind in the waiting room and discussed other things instead, without disclosing his original reason for making the appointment. Afterwards, enraged, he considered killing the psychiatrist and other people whom he hated. Kaczynski described this episode as a "major turning point" in his life.[32][33] He recalled: "I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do. And I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope."[34]
    As to the question, I would say islam is 'better' than modern 'first-world' nations when it comes to how it handles the issue. It gives women a level of authority that is commensurate with the level of responsibility that they must take on board, which is exactly as it should be.

    Now, a case can be made that they take it too far and that's fine. I'm not saying the are the ideal, but islam does it better than the gynocentric clusterfuck that modern 'first-world' nations operate under. It is absolute [BEEP] and even islam's take is far superior. [BEEP] gynocentrism.
    Move there then.

    Also western women are way more sex object npcs compared to islamic women, who don't feel the need to dress like whores, have a high body count, which simply means they derive their worth from something else. Typically islamic women have their power focused elsewhere than men. Doesn't mean they have less power. A nagging wife of a powerful man can achieve just as much as a nagging wife of a powerful man, with clown make up on.

    You could even argue that the illusion of female competence in business and other areas we have created in "the west" is robbing women of their only true power and competence and giving them fake make believe power instead.

    You can't fire women from being the providers of babies. If you do that there will be dire consequences, as we are witnessing now.

    Will there be dire consequences if we stop pretending that women are the same as men? Very much doubt it.
    Women can never have real power. They will never dominate men physically or intellectually. All female power is GIVEN. The real power women have is birthing babys. This is what has made them number one priority in society since the dawn of time.

    Not saying Im a fan of Islam btw, just trying to explain their position.

    In Islam there is great value placed on family, opposite of west.

    So you could argue that women are more powerful players in islam compared to sex objects and gibs receivers in the west.

    This only makes sense if you accept that women haven't really achieved much meaningful (materialistically speaking) and are basically forced into work, even higher paying jobs they could never get without male assistence.

    So how can power that is given be real power? Real power doesn't need to be given by others because they are sorry for you.
    Then you have nothing to worry about. Right?



    Only choosing not to have kids is also a form of power I guess, because you seem very upset about the 'dire consequences.'

    Do you actually just straight up believe that women are inferior humans who aren't capable of doing anything but give birth?
    Yes that is what he believes. We should invent artificial wombs to see what they do next. Cause if this was a video game I'd say I'm tired of this level and want to progress.

    So as someone who can see this from multiple sides it is disgusting. Masculine competition is pretty disgusting in this kind of context. Ultimately it's destructive.

    But I'm just saying that because I'm misandric and evil:



    So to a possessed feminist ideologue, white men are seen as dangerous apex predators, and as such are to be emasculated (because the cost of them being predators is seen as too high). That very 'evil queen' not being able to be kept in check is exactly what 1920s anti-suffragists warned about. The parallels to at least some of their posters is quite interesting. Great video.
    They don't acknowledge that it's also fun though or sexually arousing. I'm not sure if that's because there's some kind of taboo (I mean there is a taboo obviously but yeah lol,) but that seems like a massive oversight if you want to theorise about this topic.

    Just found this Onion article:

    Jordan Peterson Rants About Emasculated Scarecrows Covered In Birds

    TORONTO--Waxing poetic about shifting gender roles in contemporary society, professor and broadcaster Jordan Peterson took to his podcast Monday to rant about the state of "emasculated" scarecrows who have become covered in birds. "The ongoing war on masculinity has spread beyond our cities to more rural areas, where wimpy, pathetic, emasculated scarecrows--once pillars of intimidation and might--allow themselves to be shamelessly covered in ineffectual birds," the host of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast said in a 42-minute segment addressing the "outbreak of ostentatious weakness among North American men" after seeing a photograph online of several crows perched atop a scarecrow in the middle of a field. "Tell me, where have the alpha-scarecrows of ancient Rome gone, those who would never let a crow so much as set a talon upon them without putting those foul subordinate creatures in their place? Woke society has castrated this once-great protector and rendered him useless and soft, complete with long, feminine hair and a docile, expressionless face. The cultural Marxists have stripped male scarecrows of their inalienable rights as a dominant male entity to lead and be served, and I, for one, am sickened." At press time, a red-faced and teary-eyed Peterson revealed that his former colleagues at the University of Toronto had stripped him of his tenure status when he refused to let them cover him with crows.
    That's hilarious.

    I found this video yesterday too lol (really cool sunglasses actually) and it's not the best video I've seen on this topic (or thorough, pretty short,) but there is one point I want to quote.



    Even who we're attracted to. When I made my video about Drake I had this epiphany. These men a lot of times they don't even care about really being that misogynistic to the women. It's a symptom of them trying to impress other men. I wonder how many of these men even think about like if they're attracted to the type of women they're attracted to because they actually are or because being with certain women shows that you have a type of status. Being with the most desireable types of women shows that you that man. Everything is about being that man.
    Also when they talk about their mum and their suspicions that if she was young now maybe she wouldn't have gotten married and would have preferred that based on how much her mum complains about her dad it's funny because we're a similar age and for me it was my dad who ended up in that situation. He also specifically told me not to get married on at least one occasion. My parents got married pretty young (21 I think.) But I've spoken about all that before lol.

    This is from the comment section:

    I feel like literally everything is pessimistic now. Hetero-pessimism, Afro-pessimism, Climate-pessimism, Political-pessimism, etc. Literally nobody has any hope for the future, nobody believes that anything can get better. Everyone is just bitter and depressed.
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    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    ^ this is what I spent time doing btw instead of making cupcakes which I have to make. Which makes the whole thing more hilarious.

    "Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich"

    I can't. I have undiagnosed ADHD. We'll have to fight to the death instead.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    So a few days ago I stumbled on a thread about male romance novels that I just remembered. I found it while trying and failing to find romance stories about guys who are Humanoid bunnies. Yes after stumbling on the bunny guy porn. Though even before stumbling on that I'd considered bunny guys a few times. There were some things like that I think but it was all homoerotic which didn't really surprise me because as a teenager I remember reading some free fiction story posted online about some vampire guy who had a harem and his favourite was a bunny guy (don't really remember any other details now,) but I was curious about something like that but straight (not a harem story I mean something with Humanoid bunnies.) Instead Google was like 'would you like to read about romance novels for straight guys on reddit?'

    No... But [BEEP] it nothing I want ever exists anyway. (And then I kind of fell asleep or something and haven't looked again. I did find animeesque fanart but I'm also over anime.)

    Romance stories made for a male audience

    I've long been a fan of the "mushy stuff" but have never been able to find romance books meant for male readers, does anyone know of any? It can be as chaste or risque as you want.
    There's anime (which isn't written,) and manga which is targeted at guys.

    Western stuff is always like Blade Runner 2049 lol. Robot/AI stuff. Very centred around loneliness.

    The responses were even more interesting lol.

    I'm a male and Wuthering Heights is my all time favorite novel.
    Great book, has romantic elements, but it's not a "romance" per the genre requirement of a HEA. It's also about dysfunction and how abuse gets perpetuated through generations, so probably not what OP is looking for.
    Norwegian Wood
    I bought that for kindle and started reading that once. Let's see... No it doesn't remember how far into it I got now. I don't either cause it's been probably 8+ years.

    The Rosie Project
    Seconding The Rosie Project for a straight-up romance book with a male perspective.
    I haven't heard of that.

    Don Tillman is an Australian genetics professor who has spent his days organising his life with the expectation that it will reduce inefficiency, improve himself as a person, and make him an all around happier person. He does not fit in well with others, which has kept Don from dating and having a satisfying romantic life. This is something that confounds him, as he believes that his IQ, physical health, finances, and social status should otherwise make him an appealing mate.

    After spending time with his best friend and womanising colleague Gene and his wife Claudia, Don comes up with the idea of the "Wife Project", a questionnaire that would help find the perfect mate. This turns out to be something more easily done in theory, as his questionnaire fails to produce a satisfactory woman and alienates many potential candidates.
    This is something I would have thought was cute before encountering the worst possible version of this guy online a bunch. He (gender neutral really,) spends a lot of time tweeting about IQ on twitter, wokeness, complaining about trans people, pronatalism, shaming people for not having kids, posting stuff like this:

    Meet the 'elite' couples breeding to save mankind
    I didn't read the article, and am sure the headline was intentionally provoking ("meet the 'elite' couples breeding to save mankind"), but I was successfully swayed by that title and moved to max-level cringe

    Couldn't click to read after that
    The article is paywalled anyway lmfao.

    and he thinks he's superior to everyone. That's not one person, there are many.

    Started looking that up and found a reddit thread discussing it where lots of people didn't like it:

    The Rosie Project is the worst book I've ever read.
    The main character is like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory but on steroids. He's a super genius, who's also apparently good looking, a young professor at a very prestigious university, in incredible physical shape and he even knows martial arts like Jason Bourne.

    The story is that he's actually got some kind of mental issue, like an extreme case of autism or aspergers (the author's words, not mine), that makes him unable to understand social cues or engage romantically with women. He doesn't come off as quirky or cute like Sheldon Cooper or Steve Urkel. He's a total psychopath and just downright mean.

    For example, there's a scene where he is somehow giving a lecture to an auditorium of college students and researchers and during the question and answer portion he calls on a woman in the back by saying, "Yes you, the large fat woman! What's your question?" The author tries to write it as a funny scene as if he's just socially awkward but in reality it's brutally cruel.
    I don't even think I'd describe that as cruel it's more like... Unbelievable in that setting.

    All the female characters he meets are immediately head over heals horny for him for some reason. They're also all described as "stunning, beautiful etc". I can't recall anything being memorable about the female character's thoughts or minds.
    So, anyway the main character, in a quest to find a female breeding partner, makes a checklist of 200 questions for each women to complete so he can determine a perfect match for himself. It's absurd.

    My girlfriend and I tried, really tried to get through this book and we quit 3/4ths of the way through. The main character is just unbelievable, irredeemable and boring. The author has no idea what asbergers really looks like.

    Now, whyyyy did I suggest this book to my gf and why did I try reading it? I'll tell you but you won't believe me -- I had a chance run in with Bill Gates several years ago. Just a short conversation, the kind you'd have in an elevator. I asked him if he was reading any good books at the time and he said, "oh yeah, Melinda and I read The Rosie Project, it was really good. Check it out." I said I would and that was the one and only conversation I ever had with him
    That's a weird anecdote...

    It really sounds to me like the author is writing the main character as he sees himself, and the constant attention of "stunning, beautiful women" is something he feels he either deserves or that is what women he meets feel about him.

    Never read the book, so please take this with a grain of salt. I'm basing it solely off of your description.
    Yeah I'd assume that's the point. Then again it might not be because the point might be nerdy James Bond or something. I don't know, I haven't read it either.

    The only thing I didn't like about the post is the "he's not cute like Sheldon"

    In what world does Sheldon come across as remotely cute?
    In a world where there are 4 male characters and 2 of them are Leonard and Howard I guess.

    I haven't watched that show in a really long time and only watched a few seasons of it. From what I remember it wasn't that well written and the jokes weren't great. I feel like Community was a better show about geek culture. I used to ship him with Penny though and a lot of people did back in the late 2000s just because Leonard was just that annoying and I think they had more chemistry, but I also found Spock attractive in the Star Trek reboot films in the early 2010s so you know.

    This is what I mean when I say I would have been into this book a long time ago lol.

    Going back to that other thread..

    Remains of the day by Kazuo Ishiguro seems to fit your description.

    I havent read a lot of romance novels but this one i really enjoyed.
    I haven't heard of that either but several people disagreed it's romance lol.

    I did not interpret this as a romance at all, but I can see how it could be perceived that way, I suppose? It definitely gives 0 of the "mushy" feelings though.
    Exactly, it's literally the opposite of a romance novel.
    No Country for Old Men - Cormac McCarthy
    Art of War
    LOL

    I feel bad for the OP. There were some other serious suggestions though and then one guy who said that he didn't like romance but noticed with irritation that a lot of 80s and 90s fantasy books have romantic elements.

    Anything by Murakami. He touches on male loneliness and romantic relationships in almost all his novels.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    I haven't finished watching this video but if his argument is going to be 'polyamory is the reason Africa is fucked' I think that's really stupid and simplifying the issues those countries have which are manifold. Besides that at one point curious about China etc and the claims people were making about men not finding partners leading to violence I remember looking into whether gender imbalance with less women had even contributed to a greater degree of violent behaviour and it doesn't seem to... The opposite perhaps:

    Violent crimes (murders, rapes, and assaults) are substantially higher in countries with a relative scarcity of men according to research using INTERPOL data [Barber, 2000a]. This is a paradox given that males are more criminally violent and likely reflects increased direct mating competition.
    "This is a paradox"

    Everything is yeah because most people aren't really good at problem solving or even figuring out what the problem is in many contexts. That might be worrying.

    So there are other factors at play besides 'when men can't get a girlfriend they go crazy.' But tbh some of those factors involve potential conclusions that are even more controversial so I can see why you might want to argue that's the main problem lol.

    Another thing that is annoying is that there isn't one kind of poly relationship so you can't really lump them all together. When you get a lot of people who are incapable of monogamy it might be that a lot of them have a personality type that lends itself to short term mating, not committing, having poor impulse control, sexist beliefs about women, sexual aggression etc. But the mating strategy is secondary to the personality type:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16817063/

    An unrestricted sociosexual orientation (the endorsement of casual sex) has been found to correlate with undesirable behaviors and personality characteristics more so in men than in women. Using a community sample of men and women, we investigated the correlations between sociosexuality and behaviors, motives, attitudes, and fantasies related to sexual aggression. Participants (n = 168; ages 21-45) completed self-report measures of sociosexual orientation, sexual conservatism, rape myth acceptance, adversarial sexual beliefs, attitudes toward women, sexual behaviors, and perpetration of sexual aggression. Participants also wrote five brief stories that were scored for power and affiliation-intimacy motives and two sexual fantasies that were coded for the theme of dominance. For both men and women, an unrestricted sociosexual orientation was correlated with behavioral items indicating earlier life experiences with sex, a greater number of lifetime sex partners, and more frequent sexual activity. For men, an unrestricted sociosexual orientation was linked with higher levels of rape myth acceptance and adversarial sexual beliefs; more conservative attitudes toward women; higher levels of power motivation and lower levels of affiliation-intimacy motivation; and past use of sexual aggression. For women, an unrestricted sociosexual orientation was associated with sexual fantasies of dominance and lower levels of sexual conservatism.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22823293/

    There are sizable gender differences in aggressive behavior, with men displaying a much higher propensity for violence than women. Evolutionary theories suggest that men's more violent nature derives in part from their historically greater need to compete over access to potential mates. The current research investigates this link between mating and male violence and provides rigorous experimental evidence that mating motives cause men to behave violently toward other men. In these studies, men and women were primed with a mating motive and then performed a noise-blast aggression task. Being primed with mating led men, but not women, to deliver more painful blasts of white noise to a same-sex partner (but not an opposite-sex partner). This effect was particularly pronounced among men with an unrestricted sociosexual orientation, for whom competition over access to new mates is an especially relevant concern. Findings also suggest that mating-induced male violence is motivated by a desire to assert one's dominance over other men: when men were given feedback that they had won a competition with their partner (and thus had achieved dominance through nonaggressive means), the effect of the mating prime on aggression was eliminated. These findings provide insight into the motivational roots of male aggression and illustrate the value of testing theories from evolutionary biology with rigorous experimental methods.
    I think the problems in Africa are more of a compound issue. As you said its by far the most ethnically diverse place on Earth, it's also the most geographically and religiously diverse. Africa's natural state (prior to colonization) is that of thousands of self governing villages, interspersed by larger (more expansionistic) kingdoms and the occasional empire. With the exception of the latter, the vast majority of these states were mono-ethnic.

    Then you have Europeans come in, and with minimal knowledge of the African interior, they start drawing lines. By 1913, if you're an African nation, you've either been absorbed into a larger colony or divided amongst 2 or 3 of them. Meanwhile, In the 60's, decolonization starts, the European's leave, they take most of the educated population of the colonies with them, but left behind their religion, way of doing things and the shitty borders they jotted on the back of a napkin. As these states tried to figure out how to fill the vacuum left by the Europeans, old tensions came back to the surface, but this time they were mixed with cold war munitions and politics.

    My point is that Africa was already fucked, what we're seeing is African nations and people playing the cards they were delt to re-establish equilibrium and a define a new status quo. Hordes of sexually frustrated young men and the instability that creates are usually something stable countries (like China) can manage and deal with. But in regions that are already unstable (most of sub-Saharan Africa), it just serves as more fuel for the existing fire.
    Oh my god thank you. The reductive comments from Western guys who are probably annoyed they can't find a partner and 'surely this is the root of all evil in the world' were driving me insane.

    You know how gen z are having less sex, are lonelier, and are doing less drugs than previous generations?

    Just give them video games/computery stuff I guess:

    Usually, Lofstrom explained, criminal activity increases in the teenage years, peaks in the late teens or early 20s, then continually decreases. But researchers found that beginning to change with younger Millennials born in the early 1990s and continuing through Gen Z, which started in 1997.

    The year 2008 was the first time in decades that 25-year-olds committed more violent crimes than 18-year-olds. When those early ?90s children reached 25, they were still committing fewer violent crimes than past generations, or the cohort just five years older, Lofstrom said.
    Computery stuff:



    Obviously 4chan created... Their own version of this:



    Clearly they just need to get a digital wife.

    The amount of effort that went into this is terrifying
    Maybe that's why.

    The voices are really close to the original lol whoever did this must be good at voice acting.

    Tbh I actually do think that the internet has absorbed a lot of antisocial behaviour for better and worse.

    Lol that's not the only factor. (Though it is one of the biggest changes that happened specifically in the 90s. Like my entire generation grew up playing games from a young age.) A lot of people claim this is related to lower testosterone levels but honestly the relationship between testosterone and violence seems complicated in the first place.

    That's the funny thing a lot of Western guys online seem to prefer the idea of violent war to Western society. So when they argue that 'monogamy is better because less violence' first of all it isn't obvious that has the biggest (if any,) correlation and secondly they don't really seem to enjoy that environment anyway. It's almost like the people arguing this don't care about violence and want a relationship but know that women care about violence!

    Though they're certainly not moving to more violent countries or joining in any of the wars currently happening globally irl.

    Why aren't they moving?

    The video unsurprisingly finds a way to make claims about people with dyed hair being narcissists with BPD who pretend to be humble or something, and that one news story that triggered all guys like this with that one overweight woman who had several boyfriends. It's like a single story they circulate endlessly.

    This is not as annoying as the frustratingly inaccurate claims without any evidence within the first 4+ minutes of the video though. But I'll have to finish watching this later.

    Also lol:

    Whenever I see someone say "Monogamy is selfish! Monogamy is oppressive!", I cringe internally. It's literally double-think levels of wrong.
    It's certainly selfish - also sexist to imply that men would remain dominant within a western polyamorous societal shift? I didn't even wanna say this but - yes, monogamy as well as polygamy are both oppressive in opposite directions while polyamory is natural and the least oppressive organization of romantic relationships.
    in practice polyamory is just polygamy again, unless its like a tumblr cult or smth, but even then there are too few of people like that to make polyamory balanced.
    Tumblr cult.

    I'm going to make myself a tumblr cult about bunny guys. I'm not that into that though.

    There is a reason why monogamy exists. There are preferences and there are let's say societal pressures to maintain certain system. But even in so called primitive tribes, monogamy exist. And using word "patriarchy" seriously makes you a joke. Rising of single mothers is thanks to policies made by politicians on behalf of weak (as in morality and mind) people. In "patriarchy, women are protected of their own whims and stupidity. Matriarchal societies can't exist because it would be conquered from outside forces who would be either patriarchical or "antifeminist".
    "Polyamorous" society can't exist seriously and it only work for small number of people or mainly as cult.
    Not sure it has to be one or the other. I think framing it at one or the other is also kind of weird unless you think men or women are redundant in certain cultures. How is it a patriarchy if it stops functioning when women refuse to do anything? Or vice versa?

    Vigdis disagrees. "Things went back to normal the next day, but with the knowledge that women are as well as men the pillars of society," she says. "So many companies and institutions came to a halt and it showed the force and necessity of women - it completely changed the way of thinking."
    Kids literally base their opinions about this sort of thing on whatever is the norm around them lol:

    When Ronald Reagan became the US President, one small boy in Iceland was outraged. "He can't be a president - he's a man!" he exclaimed to his mother when he saw the news on the television.

    It was November 1980, and Vigdis Finnbogadottir, a divorced single mother, had won Iceland's presidency that summer. The boy didn't know it, but Vigdis (all Icelanders go by their first name) was Europe's first female president, and the first woman in the world to be democratically elected as a head of state.
    There was a documentary related to this in the UK which was controversial they also gave it an edgy title I think originally. (I don't think this is the original title but could be wrong.) Dunno if this is the whole thing or if it was in parts:



    Cults are more fun/creative though I think. Can have some positive effects at creating filter bubbles for certain kinds of people. Downside is you get very negative things happening as well obviously and many are tyrannical. They're also basically new cultures though so there's a high failure rate I think. When they reach a certain level of popularity or survive for a certain amount of time, people no longer consider them to be cults.

    America has a weird relationship with cults where they're terrified of small cults (or organizations they think are cults) but completely normalized massive cults that hurt many more people (eg: LDS Church, Jehovah?s Witnesses, the Amish, Scientology, most Megachurches)
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    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
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    they don't know about the genuinely psychopathic German education system that decides wether or not you’re going to college at age 10
    me, a very smart german man: what if we locked all of the poorest-performing and most misbehaving pupils in the same building, separated from all the prospective college students, during all of their puberty, and give them the "shit student" degree. this will be good for them.
    I blame Heidegger for this. I don’t think he had anything to do with it but I love blaming Heidegger for things.
    Like grammar schools? We used to have a similar system here. Still do in some areas of the country I think. Also they still give kids at age 11/12 some kind of test that's equivalent to an IQ test to decide which kids go into the gifted and talented program and then some of them later had access to other qualifications etc.

    Yeah I thought so:

    Usually the students that attend a gymnasium school in Germany are the most academically strong students upon leaving primary school. The gymnasium school helps to prepare students to enter a university, and is the most rigorous and prestigious level of secondary education in Germany. Gymnasia are thus meant for the more academically-minded students, who are sifted out at about the age of 10–13, a system similar to the eleven plus exam formerly used to select grammar school entrants in the United Kingdom. Those students who are not qualified to enter gymnasia attend one of the three other types of German secondary schools: Realschule, Hauptschule, or Gesamtschule.
    I learned about this during german GCSEs and the whole concept made me lose my mind. what the [BEEP] is hauptschule and gymnasium? that just sounds like a new way to discriminate on the basis of class.
    I mean it sounds like what we had in the UK lol but I'll have to look into it more.

    Even during GCSE's now it's impossible to earn higher grades in some exams unless you qualify for higher grade boundaries. That was definitely a thing with maths. I might be remembering wrong but I think it was impossible to essentially get a passing grade if you only qualified for the foundation exam for a while so the highest grade you could get was a D (which made the whole thing seem pointless since sixth form colleges and jobs usually require a C grade,) but they got rid of those grade boundaries the year after I took them so there were only two instead of three and then you could get a C as the highest grade in foundation. Honestly I never really understood why there were so many grades below C there's basically no use lol they're all failing grades at that point.

    I think they were called foundation, intermediate and higher when I took them (then later they only had foundation and higher,) technically I took the intermediate one twice but I still only got a C grade the second time a few months later lol. If I'd waited till the following summer I wouldn't have been able to take that exam though I think, so I thought I might as well try. I must have been one of the last students to take it lol.

    And I think this sort of thing probably happened in a few other subjects too... Maybe science and English but maybe not. My memory is poor so I don't remember.

    Actually I think it's good for the "very smart" students to have things in common with the lower performing students. Creating that kind of divide is bad for kids and leads to them having weird superiority complexes.
    That kind of school system would have sucked for me a lot because I scored like 94 on that equivalent to IQ test at the time, and one of my only close friends who I mostly hung out with outside school was in the gifted and talented program at my school and she was really good at maths and science mostly, but we were in the same English class and started hanging out because she asked me to teach her to play guitar (which didn't really happen lol, we sort of formed a band that went nowhere, and we sometimes played together also with this other guy.) But we kept hanging out in general a lot. I didn't really have much in common with most students in my secondary school.

    I also went to university lol so [BEEP] you but I was studying a pretty unconventional subject. Also this isn't good really I didn't do anything with my degree, graduated with the lowest grade, and picked the wrong subject to study lol. They also transparently really wanted kids from 'my background (tm)' to go and tried to convince us during secondary school using very misleading figures for potential earnings lol, among other things (was some government program.) But I already knew I wanted to go to university because I'd pretty much decided that was a normal part of life (even though at that point nobody in my immediate or extended family had gone to university, so I'm not entirely sure where that idea came from.) I don't know why but when I was like 6/7 maybe I remember having a conversation about the different education levels and how you're supposed to progress with a friend I think. Such a fun kid sometimes.

    Anyway after that I failed at life spectacularly so the balance was restored.

    That's actually an argument in favor of the system. If merely being in the presence of the "underperformers" is harmful, then one ought to separate them from the gifted ones so as not interfere with their development.
    The same could be said about people with anime profile pics.

    Yeah it’s a lot more reasonable than the continental systems. A lot can be said of British education but structurally speaking I do think it’s one of the better-designed systems.
    I can't agree. Or well it might be that everywhere else is such hell that it's somehow better than the alternatives but it's still very dated and unfit for modern society, functions kind of like a prison, and there are numerous other issues.

    Honestly the level of education you get in a Hauptschule is absolutely laughable and embarrassing. You'd have to play catch up for years while already coming in severely knowledgeable handicapped. Hauptschule was a fucking nightmare and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy lol
    One thing that was very obvious to me in my school was that the lower maths classes had worse teachers. The teacher I ended up with for 4 years (because I started off in the bottom set initially then went up to the next set the following year and stayed in that class for the rest of my time at school,) just wasn't a good teacher and she also kind of expected everyone to fail I think and at one point suggested we must be bad at science which I wasn't so again [BEEP] you. Also she was homophobic (which did come up during class when she started ranting about gay people especially gay men being unnatural.)

    this is basically a caste system my dude lmfao
    No, this has nothing to do with race or social classes.
    It has quite a lot to do with both tbh.
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    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
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    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    My friend just informed me that someone has uploaded the full Oppenheimer movie to twitter and it's still there (it's been several hours now.) It's actually a repost of someone else's tweet which has been up since 5am.

    Also I saw part of this documentary earlier while visiting my dad and it seems like an interesting job:



    though possibly dangerous for the birds.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Right wing guys on twitter on a regular basis:

    "I like feminine women not tomboys. Also we should bring back regular tomboys like this image not this image which is gay."

    And then it's all like hyper feminine presenting women with really long hair and feminine clothing + makeup and probably have feminine personalities and act feminine but they just have different levels of muscle tone lol.

    None of these women are tomboys.

    My biggest problem with the tomboy debate is that people could mean either girls with a slightly boyish personality or super-muscle girls and anything in between, without anyone being able to tell which type is being referred to
    You will never gaslight people into thinking finding women attractive is gay
    I mean. Not to be that guuuuuuyyy…but do lesbians count in this?
    Funny because I was going to make that joke to the guy who was posting photos like tomboys (very cute,) muscle mummies (very gay)

    Actually tomboys are very gay.



    Don't think she uses that label (basically nobody does now anyway,) and is also genderqueer but I needed this for effect.

    Talking to sandwiches:



    It sorta does, but people added on being fit as a requirement for being a tomboy, and then that became being buff, and then the muscles fetishists took off with that.
    It's actually because people mostly stopped self id'ing as that label because if you're a cis straight woman and call yourself that you'll probably be accused of being 'not like the other girls' these days. So it pretty much just became whatever/whoever straight guys wanted to apply the label to at any moment in time - generally some anime character.

    If they're gay for men, wouldn't the inverse mean that tomboys are straight for women?
    Some 'straight' women are attracted to butch women. Of course that's not the demographic being discussed most of the time.

    It's always gay if people find me attractive btw no matter what your gender/sexuality is. Luckily they mostly don't hahahaha.

    I will end your bloodline with my bare hands
    is that a promise
    Yes
    This interaction is also gay. I decide what is and isn't gay.

    "Is anything not gay?"

    Cuck fetish stuff and raceplay. Very heterosexual.

    #pagan vs. #christian virtues.

    Which one would you prefer?


    I don't appreciate them making me pick Christianity. But Jesus was the og twink.



    "I'm not an atheist like I'm a big fan of Jesus Christ. There's nobody more thin and vulnerable than Jesus Christ. And he's bleeding too that's very clever of them."
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    People keep posting video clips of women 'bragging' about how they're childless and the things they can do with their spare time. They often take this as an attack on themselves. Recently shoeonhead decided to post a video of a guy doing this instead because I guess even she noticed that people mostly do this with videos of women for obvious reasons:

    i see a lot of tiktoks like this made by women posted here lately, but least we forget the ✨childfree✨ antinatalist man
    The guy didn't actually say anything about being antinatalist though.

    He said that he gets to play video games all day with his partner because they don't have kids, and mentioned smoking weed. He calls children hellspawn and sounds annoyed I would say but he's trying to cover it up with apathy. Like Daria.

    Many people responding to this ignored the fact that he had a partner or called him gay:

    '"my partner and I" " 🚩'
    ?????? Wow so sus in the year 2023 someone might be gay lmfao, and the left are supposed to be the triggered snowflakes
    Exactly.... But I strongly doubt he is. I've come across many guys like this who are straight.

    Lots of people pointed out how pathetic his life is, how he's going to die alone, his physical phenotype 'he's a bug man.' general fascist discourse:

    The people that think this way are the same people that have anxiety about completely ordinary things like "talking on the phone"
    No kids but
    -still fat
    -still unhappy
    -still wears glasses
    It's propaganda, these types of childless videos always have the people trying to sell you on the idea of not having kids, it's straight up propaganda
    They're always white too for some reason
    That's not why these random people are making videos like this, and they also don't have to do anything because your contempt for others makes a lot of people want to avoid being part of your group all on its own.

    Under different circumstances I wouldn't have minded having kids. I'm not someone who hates kids or the idea of having kids but this culture is completely wrong for someone like me and I'm also waiting on technology that can't exist yet, so it's not on the cards.

    if you get up at 6am and spend your first 12 HOURS playing video games, i do not want you in the gene pool
    Not sure if there's a more insufferable personality type than the antinatalist man. Almost all the pros they list about not having kids has something to do with consumption lol
    Again he didn't say he's antinatalist.

    May be he was raised by a single mom or a feminist
    Crazy to brag online about what a lazy POS you are
    I like the idea that never having kids just gives your free time to consume more media. Ok.
    men who don't want kids or support abortion only feel that way bc they want to avoid responsibility and be promiscuous
    So this next quote is funny because it's written by shoeonheads husband (who is a conservative,) and he says this but he married shoeonhead and I don't mean that as an insult to shoeonhead I find her funny and watch her videos but she has ADHD, has on/off dyed her hair, is infantalised by everyone, is bisexual, dated a trans guy in high school who at least in one point in her life she described as her best friend, people tell her she sounds like a 12 year old boy, she didn't get a bunch of piercings and tattoos by her own admission out of fear but still wanted to, started off making YouTube videos during gamergate and still makes YouTube videos for a living now...:

    These people really act like they cracked some code. Like they really "figured it out" while everyone else is a sucker.

    In reality, they're mentally and emotionally 14 years old. They have a 14 year old's tolerance for stress and responsibility. It's sad and pathetic.
    Congrats, you married the female version of this man because she's funny and don't care either because she's female or you have no self awareness.

    Shoe re-created this quote below in a video recently but replaced autism with bipolar disorder and switched the genders, and I didn't realise what she was quoting because I hadn't seen it before but someone posted it on her twitter and she responded to it saying she was glad someone noticed what she was quoting or something like that. But it's funny because in the actual quote he specifically tells people to avoid dating women who larp online as traditional women over 'rockabilly chicks' though she generally wants to live that way herself (but she's an alt girl so... but I've explained that before besides her humour this is the major conflict in her persona which attracts such a diverse audience. There are 3 things - her humour, that she empathises with men or appears to, and the conflict in her persona):





    In her latest video intro she compared herself to many people including a kind of knock off variant of Aubrey Plaza which I don't see (she's too bubbly imo and her general humour, vibe and attitudes are just different,) and various e-girls but definitely genderswapped MoistCr1TiKaL is accurate physically speaking lol. So there again you get the conflict between like 'I'm an e-girl/quirky but also a trad wife.'

    Anyway he married her and her persona is a very successful strategy of attracting certain men, especially conservative men, acting kind of neotenic too and not insulting them helps. Of course it doesn't hurt that she's physically attractive and that's always going to come first but the rest can work well too. Grimes has a similar persona which predates e-girls really and obviously a lot of this comes from anime and historically she's not been OK with this (but I'm sure she wouldn't say this now):

    i dont want to be infantilized because i refuse to be sexualized

    i dont want to be molested at shows or on the street by people who perceive me as an object that exists for their personal satisfaction

    i dont want to live in a world where im gonna have to start employing body guards because this kind of behavior is so commonplace and accepted and I'm pissed that when I express concern over my own safety it?s often ignored until people see firsthand what happens and then they apologize for not taking me seriously after the fact

    I'm tired of men who aren't professional or even accomplished musicians continually offering to ?help me out? (without being asked), as if i did this by accident and i?m gonna flounder without them. or as if the fact that I?m a woman makes me incapable of using technology. I have never seen this kind of thing happen to any of my male peers

    I'm tired of the weird insistence that i need a band or i need to work with outside producers (and I'm eternally grateful to the people who don't do this)

    im tired of being considered vapid for liking pop music or caring about fashion as if these things inherently lack substance or as if the things i enjoy somehow make me a lesser person

    im tired of being congratulated for being thin because i can more easily fit into sample sizes from the runway

    im tired of people i love betraying me so they can get credit or money

    I'm sad that it?s uncool or offensive to talk about environmental or human rights issues

    I'm tired of creeps on message boards discussing whether or not they'd "fuck" me

    I'm tired of people harassing my dancers and treating them like they aren't human beings

    I'm sad that my desire to be treated as an equal and as a human being is interpreted as hatred of men, rather than a request to be included and respected (I have four brothers and many male best friends and a dad and i promise i do not hate men at all, nor do i believe that all men are sexist or that all men behave in the ways described above)

    im tired of being referred to as 'cute,' as a 'waif' etc., even when the author, fan, friend, family member etc. is being positive."
    And it all seems to come out subconsciously in her music and album concepts no matter what she says about 'liking patriarchy' etc in interviews. And now she's in some custody battle with Elon Musk.

    Elon specifically said he felt like she was a simulation made specifically for him. So in response I guess she decided to create a lesbian AI album:

    On an Instagram post of her with pink hair and fang-like teeth, a fan asked the musician what the "vibez" would be like on her next record. Grimes answered them at length, saying: "it's a space opera about CLAIRE DE LUNE ? an artificial courtesan who was implanted in a simulation that is a memory of the AI creation story on earth from the brain of the engineer who invented AI because he wants to re live his life but see if his perfect dream girl could teach him to love and thereby he would preserve humanity this time rather than let them fade into obscurity ? overcome by the machines.

    "As she slowly realizes she is essentially a dancing puppet for the male gaze tho, their relationship grows complex. Simultaneously ? "NO ONE" (the most powerful super intelligence in the future where the simulation is being rendered from) realizes there's a massive hyper-realistic sim running and sends in her troll AI puppets to wreak havoc."
    She continued to explain that a "lead AI demon" called Dark Matter then "enters basically as the "black swan" to claire de lune". However, the two entities "fall into a lesbian romance due to the fact that they are the only two fully Ai beings in this universe."

    According to Grimes, there's more to the narrative after that but that is "where the first part of the story stops".
    "Personally, I don't think 'manic pixie dream girl' is an insult," Grimes says, reflecting on her experience with internet criticism. "I exactly identify with all of those terms. I understand it's supposed to be a critique of certain things, but then I challenge that critique.' Her forthcoming album, Book 1, explores similar archetypes and alludes to several famous female figures--including Athena, Calypso, Persephone, Marie Antoinette, and Anne Boleyn, to name a few. "There's this weird dismissal of them," she says. "These are some of the most interesting characters in history to me, and they're so demeaned."


    So that works just like this works:



    Not whatever justpearlythings is doing but she knows that really. (You're not a hyper feminine tradwife, you're a tomboy - one of the 75,000 definitions of the word obviously - who works out and plays volleyball so this isn't going to work for you.) They need something to 'convert.'

    There's a lot of guys on social media who have a fantasy of a tomboy girlfriend which is not the same thing but tangential because they think if they get close to her they can convert her to femininity and submissiveness essentially. But just for them. I think they're mostly deluded if they think that's possible. It's also important that they can do that because if they can't convert her, then they lose their mancard.

    Shoe's been accused of changing her opinions for boyfriends for as long as she's been online from a variety of people with different political views. It obviously annoys her, though she's also joked about it a few times in tweets. I also think she romanticizes the idea of people with opposite political views coming together.

    this is so wholesome i love boyfriend/girlfriend appreciation posts. i'm so happy you guys found each other. like a really bizarre romeo and juliet story.
    You mean, their families hate each other & every one dies, violently, in the end?
    I'm not saying everyone is doing this consciously. Sometimes people have conflicting personality traits or desires etc they have to manage too.

    Paul Elam:

    Nope. Women should work. They should not have the choice to be a parasite.
    Shoeonhead:

    homemaking and caring for children is work, a lot of work. and very important work.
    Some guy with Christian and a US flag in bio:

    You've become full tradcon and many of us are here for it 😂
    this has been my opinion for 10+ years and isnt tradcon. were not getting anywhere close to one income again in late stage neoliberal capitalist hellworld. seeing "redpill" "christian" guys tell women they need to girlboss & cubiclemaxx is just funny.
    Oh I know. I?m just giving you a hard time - you?re one of the people I respect on this site because you actually think through opinions instead of just restating the same ideological bullshit.

    Never watched your YouTube though - which maybe helps make me evaluate you more objectively.

    Also now that I?ve got your attention for like two seconds: I?m gonna reiterate- BECOME CATHOLIC, SHOE!!!! 🇻🇦
    She gets lots of comments like this:

    Come over to the conservative side @shoe0nhead you're too hot and too smart to be a liberal. 🤷*♂️
    So I don't know why most straight people would bother (with trying to form relationships,) and of course they don't. Gen Z especially. But it's an arms race basically:

    In evolutionary biology, an evolutionary arms race is an ongoing struggle between competing sets of co-evolving genes, phenotypic and behavioral traits that develop escalating adaptations and counter-adaptations against each other, resembling the geopolitical concept of an arms race. These are often described as examples of positive feedback.[1] The co-evolving gene sets may be in different species, as in an evolutionary arms race between a predator species and its prey (Vermeij, 1987), or a parasite and its host. Alternatively, the arms race may be between members of the same species, as in the manipulation/sales resistance model of communication (Dawkins & Krebs, 1979) or as in runaway evolution or Red Queen effects. One example of an evolutionary arms race is in sexual conflict between the sexes, often described with the term Fisherian runaway. Thierry Lode[2] emphasized the role of such antagonistic interactions in evolution leading to character displacements and antagonistic coevolution.
    But I kind of get it. That's why I find Abby Shapiro sort of attractive even though I disagree with her about most things. It doesn't really work on conservative guys because they have short hair. Closest thing is probably that one guy who seems to be some kind of right wing libertarian kooky guy into occultism, plants and cats with long hair but he has facial hair which doesn't work for me and his face isn't really attractive to me, he looked better with makeup (and no facial hair,) that one time he did that, and he's incredibly obnoxious on twitter. Also seemed to be a Trump fan for no discernibly good reason... He's skinny though and has long hair and glasses (also the plants, cat, and occult interest.) Curtis Yarvin is a better example since he sometimes likes to refer to himself as being part of some kind of liberal artsy ingroup (also has insane politics,) doesn't id as conservative I think but is ultimately right wing and vaguely helping them so easier to fit into some kind of corruption narrative right? (It can be fetish/fantasy material sure but I don't think this is a healthy basis for a relationship and the way people on social media approach this and comment on that kind of thing makes this clearer. So I'm skeptical of people romanticising this.) But again not super attractive just had long hair. Think he's cut it now anyway. He's also a programmer and that describes 50% of guys I've had relationships with (small sample size,) and other people thought he was feminine and commented on that a bunch which intrigued me. Obviously it intrigued that nerdy progressive 'BDSM writer' woman who he was engaged to briefly before they broke up as well (all her housemates disliked him.) They had a kid before breaking up as well making the whole situation messier. I think he has a superiority complex based on things he's said and his writing. I don't think relationships like this work out in most cases honestly...

    Sensory exploitation by males is one mechanism that involves males attempting to overcome female reluctance. It can result in chase-away selection, which then leads to a co-evolutionary arms race. There are also other mechanisms involved in sexual conflict such as traumatic insemination, forced copulation, penis fencing, love darts and others.

    Female resistance traditionally includes reducing negative effects to mechanisms implemented by males, but outside the norm may include sexual cannibalism, increased fitness in females on offspring and increased aggression to males.
    #vore

    Back to the guy who plays video games that everyone hates:

    Like you're forgoing continuing your entire genetic bloodline? okay. What are we gonna do since we're not fulfilling our only true purpose as a living reproducing creature? Start a business? Nah. Master a new hobby? No. Travel? No. Soyface over funko pops and Steam sales? Eh, [BEEP] it!
    This is stupid because I mostly see people post these videos about women (as shoeonhead said,) and they're talking about how they're travelling, they've built a microhome they're living in, they're learning new recipes, They're Taylor Swift, (often they're not even making videos to brag about how they're childless or whatever people think but people criticise them anyway,) Like Gavin McInnes content. I wanted to find a particular video I watched a while ago but I now realise he has several videos just complaining about childless women lol.

    Looks like the video I wanted to find is gone because the YouTube channel that reuploaded it was closed lol. I posted about it before though so this is my description + quotes:

    Just found this video lol and he's complaining about a woman who lives in a van travelling around Europe etc haha. She found a partner while on the road I think and she's talking about how she worried that they were kind of merged together now and she clearly desired more independence. Again you can see she has an avoidant attachment style lol.

    [...]

    woman in video: 'I kind of lost myself in this relationship'
    Gavin McInnes: 'yeah that's called love you stupid [BEEP]'
    [...]
    other guy behind the camera talking to Gavin: 'And by the way he glommed onto your lifestyle'
    Gavin: 'your stupid lifestyle'
    other guy: 'Yeah'
    Gavin: 'living in a van? Fucking dangerous.'
    [...]
    Woman in video: unfortunately it took me moving to Europe and abandoning everything I had in the US to realise that I need to rekindle my independence a little bit.

    Then they both go on to say that the guy shouldn't have let her break up with him and just been like 'no, we're not breaking up.' and 'take charge stop being such a [BEEP] men.'

    God he's so punchable. And the comments section is a mess too of course. Lots of really bitter men convinced that 'if it was chad or Tyrone she wouldn't have broken up' 'she just wants to have tons of casual sex' and so on. They're just projecting lol because that's what they want.

    Oh and that advice seems to assume the woman is doing it to get some kind of declaration of love/commitment which is what people with anxious attachment styles or borderline personality disorder do, but not avoidants. Stupid.

    The basic method is to build trust and create safety. Interpersonal safety is the primary need of virtually every person I have ever met who suffers from schizoid personality disorder. Yes, they want other things, such as love, respect, and feeling understood, but their priority is feeling safe with the other person.
    There was some weird guy on twitter who just kept complaining about women who lived in microhomes specifically. Which was so weirdly specific. Gavin was actually quoting one of these people lol in the video. 'These rootless women.' I think it worries guys like that because it's going so off script. I ended up getting blocked by the guy on twitter lol.

    But yeah no matter what you do with your life you will get exactly the same treatment from the same people. At the end of the day people don't care what you're doing they're annoyed that you're not reproducing.

    Do you see a lot of TikTOKs made by Pronatalistic Ladies AND Men? Or those don't exist?
    Of course you do. People constantly brag and try to convince other people to live their lifestyle online.



    I don't actually mind Estee Williams who many people bring up because afaik she doesn't insist that people should live like her, as many others and many people in her audience do.

    Though I didn't watch this video really before posting it. I thought the tinkeywinkey image was hilarious tbh so clicked on it. But yeah I guess Estee Williams is more inconsistent in her messaging (I've never really bothered to watch her content since I know it's not for me and she didn't seem to be trying to get attention from people like me or trying to piss us off either. Like Abby Shapiro's videos were pretty much suggested seemingly purposefully to women and [BEEP] people who disagree with her and she paid for ads instead of growing her audience organically. So for a long while the average person who watched Abby's videos and commented on them was someone like this:



    I?m a lesbian. I'm getting really sick of Abby Shapiro - _ -
    I?m a gay male and I can confirm that the best way to get a conservative woman?s attention is to be a gay guy. Like goddamned moths to a porch light. 🙄
    Kind of fucked up but it seemed like YouTube specifically suggested her videos to people who would be most annoyed by them.

    It was all just negative comments, shitposting, people headcannoning her as a lesbian. Half the audience probably came from tumblr as well....

    My issue is more to do with the people who aggressively argue these points as some kind of clear fight though and express clear contempt. Also I still haven't finished the tinkywinky tradwife video but the part I've watched towards the beginning is funny because of the emphasis on how she's used language as a defence for their argument. That's a fairly unique angle for YouTube and most people aren't that detail oriented. I think it's very hard for people to not try to push their own lifestyle on others. If the internet is anything to go by. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but really most people are doing this usually in a very obvious way but sometimes more covertly.

    I think the worst response to that guy who didn't want kids so he could play video games was the guy who basically said 'Lol you can still do this stuff with kids, I just go watch Avengers and give my kid an ipad.' So they're both doing their own thing with screens.

    Oh and you're the better person somehow? You certainly did reproduce genetically.

    They all have the same fanfiction fantasy as well:

    honestly bro seems like the perfect stereotypical reddit consoomer type. The kinda guy to let his wife be fucked by Chad while he goes on the r/funkopops subreddit to talk about the new soylent or some bs like that
    I think the call is coming from inside the house:

    Why conservative men are more likely to fantasize about sharing their wives
    A lot of people also expressed confusion about why he felt the need to make this tiktok and was rubbing their faces in it. I think people on twitter have to keep in mind more often that the people like this (especially women who do this,) are doing this because all they see on social media are people who disagree with their choices shitting on them constantly.

    Also from a thread talking about Hillary Duff:

    i swear Hillary Duff is the only former child star who didn?t become fucked up.

    got married, had children, wrote children?s books, became a fashion designer and a muscle mommy. a rare living, breathing woman W
    She got more attractive the older she's gotten, too.

    Apparently not all girls hit the wall at 18 years old like the black pillers want you to believe.
    She got married and had kids. That totally changes the math on the wall. That's how women avoid it.
    The"math on the wall" is telling me you're a sexless incel
    I have a girlfriend and you have no business to know anything about our sex life.

    Maybe if you weren't so bitter, you'd see that my comment was positive towards women and the fact that they can avoid "the wall". They don't have to rely on their sexual value their entire lives.
    She didn't respond to this guy again, so I did.

    As I said to him this isn't positive because society constantly criticises women who do not get married or have kids. Has done so for at least hundreds of years. Used to burn some of them:



    They're not criticising women who fulfil that kind of Madonna archetype, unless they're the rare kind of guy who is so bitter they just hate literally all women. Now and then you'll find someone so misogynistic they post about how they like the idea of punching pregnant women in the stomach but that's rare. Most people criticise women who are queer, lesbians, childless, refuse sex entirely, single, and promiscuous. As these all go against the female gender role and the expectations (it's closer to demands really,) society has for genetic female people in society.

    Which is why it's actually quite insulting for a bunch of high status people who often have kids and/or are married to co-opt this symbol. I don't care about 'cultural appropriation' per se. But you know you're not actually witches right? You know Edward Dutton isn't writing about you right?

    JK Rowling isn't a witch she's a queen being attacked by peasants.



    I guess that's unpleasant, and sometimes royalty are brutally overthrown as in the French revolution, but it's not the same archetype.

    Jordan Peterson does not like France and has misguided overly positive views about England:



    I'm a witch (but I'm grandiose about it so I prefer witch-king actually.) 'Incels' and r9k type guys are witches or wizards I guess if they're over 30 according to the meme haha. I wonder if they realise:

    The 30-Year-Old Virgin Wizard is an Internet legend stating that a person can be endowed with magical powers and become a "wizard" if they reach the age of 30 without engaging in sexual intercourse.
    Childless women are witches. Women who have lots of casual sex are witches. Sex workers are witches. Trans people are witches. Non-binary people are witches. People who use they/them pronouns and dye their hair... These are the witches (tm):

    Spiteful Mutants: Evolution, Sexuality, Religion, and Politics in the 21st Century

    Every zombie movie has a terrifying underlying message. The enemy isn't supernatural or an alien from another planet. "The enemy is . . . us!" The "undead" -- mutated humans, grotesque versions of their previous selves -- are destroying everything in their path and bringing about the downfall of civilization. Even worse, they are contagious, gradually absorbing the few survivors left into the hoard.

    In Spiteful Mutants, evolutionary psychologist Edward Dutton argues that we are experiencing a "zombie apocalypse" of our own. The critical threat to civilization is not so much enemies abroad as it is nihilistic and self-destructive tendencies within our own populations. Dutton examines such salient social phenomena through a Darwinian lens: from BLM to QAnon; from those seeking sexual transformation to the Incels who don't have sex at all; from atheists to those with a religious zeal for "social justice." All these phenomena can best be understood as genetic results of the Industrial Revolution.

    Human evolution is an ongoing process. The question of who we, as a species, will become is a matter of who is being selected for in a particular ecology. Before industrialization, child mortality was the crucible of evolution: those who were physically and mentally sick -- that is, who possessed high levels of genetic mutation -- rarely survived into adulthood. The Industrial Revolution, and resultant medical advances, brought about the collapse of child mortality, allowing the explosive growth of people who are highly mutated in body and mind, and who would not have otherwise survived. These mutants, walking among us, are "spiteful" in the sense that they actively affect the functioning of the group. They generate polarization and chaos, depravity and dysphoria, and even the gradual collapse of fertility. A new specter is haunting the industrialized world, the specter of Spiteful Mutants, a menace of our own making.
    Witches, Feminism, and the Fall of the West

    The archetype of the "witch" is burnt deep into the European psyche, recurring again and again in folklore and fairytales. But is she merely the stuff of fantasy? Roald Dahl warned that witches don't always don black hats and ride on broom sticks. They "dress in ordinary clothes, and look very much like ordinary women. . . . That is why they are so hard to catch."

    In Witches, Feminism and the Fall of the West, Edward Dutton examines the history of witches and witch-hunting in light of evolutionary psychology. Throughout the centuries, witches were ostracized across Europe and often condemned and executed for sorcery and harming children. They generally adhered to a type: witches were low-status, anti-social, and childless, and their very presence was viewed as poisonous to the community. Dutton demonstrates that witches did, in their way, represent a maladaptive mentality and behavior, which undermined Europe's patriarchal system. When times got tough-that is, when Europe got poorer or colder-the witches were persecuted with a vengeance.

    Today, the evolutionary situation has been turned on its head. The intense selection pressures of the past have been overcome by the Industrial Revolution and its technological marvels. Modern witches survive and thrive in the postmodern West, still possessed by the motivations and dispositions of their sisters of yore. "Sorcery" (nihilism and self-hatred) is no longer taboo but has become a high-status ideology. Roald Dahl was all-too correct. Witches do exist, and they mean to do us harm.
    You can't just claim you're a feminist and insist you're a witch. That goes for reactionary feminists, JK Rowling and any similar figures who often make up the English upper class. I'm not a feminist, I don't id as one but I'm still lumped into this anyway. Whether I like it or not. I dress like one I guess:



    And this is what this guy sounds like btw while he tries to claim we're high status:



    I didn't watch the whole video but I know he goes into aposematism theory which is funny because he's calling himself and people like him predators haha:

    Aposematism is the advertising by an animal to potential predators that it is not worth attacking or eating. This unprofitability may consist of any defenses which make the prey difficult to kill and eat, such as toxicity, venom, foul taste or smell, sharp spines, or aggressive nature.
    So it is working.



    Having said that when I dyed my hair unnatural colours I got a lot of compliments from people. Very few people expressed dislike for it irl. Multiple guys I knew asked me to dye their hair for them. It was a great ice breaker. Basically everything Destiny (the streamer,) talked about when he dyed his hair blue lol. But you know filter bubbles + people don't say what they think irl. Also this was in the early 2010s just before everyone went insane on social media.

    Beware the stealth hair-dyer who dyes their hair the exact same colour as is naturally is. You'll never see them coming.
    Many of us (trans, creative, mentally ill, low status, antisocial, gender non-conforming etc) don't dye our hair unnatural colours now:



    They're always very far behind the times but that's what makes them conservative. Edit: Actually it's important not to move the overton window Edward Dutton is far right and anyone agreeing with his writing and rhetoric is also.

    While I've never dyed my hair, I do think there are some more benign reasons for dying your hair unnatural colors than just mental illness. Flowers and male birds use bright uncommon colors to attract bees or female birds. So, some people may dye their hair unnatural colors because they think it looks attractive. This may be more common among people who are more r-oriented than K-oriented. Also, there is the influence of anime. In anime, characters have a wide variety of hair colors, and this is probably because apart from hair color and a few other differences, the art style makes characters look a lot like each other. Female anime characters tend to be very pretty, and as more and more women watch it, they may be inspired to adopt the hair colors of their favorite anime characters, which is akin to adopting the fashions of beautiful models. It can also be a sign of a more creative person who gets bored with the ordinary and likes to try new things. So, while mental illness may play in a role in why some people dye their hair, I do not think it is a one-size-fits-all explanation for why people dye their hair unnatural colors.
    So the r-oriented and k-oriented thing is presumably referencing this theory:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory

    Which is used to talk about different species. That's not a coincidence.

    Traits that are thought to be characteristic of K-selection include large body size, long life expectancy, and the production of fewer offspring, which often require extensive parental care until they mature. Organisms whose life history is subject to K-selection are often referred to as K-strategists or K-selected.[11] Organisms with K-selected traits include large organisms such as elephants, humans, and whales, but also smaller long-lived organisms such as Arctic terns,[12] parrots and eagles.
    People don't normally talk about that now they talk about life history theory:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_history_theory

    Research has also indicated that humans may pursue different reproductive strategies.[39][40][41] In investigating life history frameworks for explaining reproductive strategy development, empirical studies have identified issues with a psychometric approach, but tentatively supported predicted links between early stress, accelerated puberty, insecure attachment, unrestricted sociosexuality and relationship dissatisfaction.[42]
    The further you deviate from the Western conservative ideal, the more dehumanised you will become. You're a zombie, you're a mutant, you're a vampire, you're a demon, you're an alien, you're animalistic etc. Women in general are also sometimes described as less Human by some right wing writers. So then you have to wrestle with that as part of your identity (because identity is negotiated with others,) which imo increases mental health issues.

    Not mutually exclusive either. (The mentally ill vs creative vs watches anime etc.) Many creative people are also mentally ill (and/or watch anime.) Mostly they have bipolar disorder though specifically (you'll notice that a lot anecdotally if you look):

    A 2017 study explored whether mood disorders cause creativity, creativity causes mood disorders, or an unknown variable causes creativity and mood disorders.3
    Taylor CL. Creativity and mood disorder: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Perspectives on Psychological Science. 2017;12(6):174569161769965. doi:10.1177/1745691617699653

    The researchers found that bipolar disorder, which is characterized by periods of mania and depression, was most often associated with creativity.

    In contrast, creativity was not associated with persistent depressive disorder (PDD), also known as dysthymia or low-grade depression.
    Although major depression and bipolar disorder are associated with creativity, evidence does not indicate that having a mood disorder enhances an individual?s artistic ability.

    Rather, the high-pressure and hectic lifestyles of many artists may lead to depressive symptoms, as tight deadlines, high expectations, fierce criticism, and intense travel are common for such individuals.
    Links between creativity and mental health have been extensively discussed and studied by psychologists and other researchers for centuries. Parallels can be drawn to connect creativity to major mental disorders including bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, major depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, OCD and ADHD. For example, studies[3][4] have demonstrated correlations between creative occupations and people living with mental illness. There are cases that support the idea that mental illness can aid in creativity, but it is also generally agreed that mental illness does not have to be present for creativity to exist.
    There have been many studies on the correlation between mood and creativity with very different results. Some studies seem to show a correlation between positive mood (affect) and heightened creativity.[23] Other studies show that negative moods seem to be correlated with heightened creativity. One such research paper concludes, "Negative moods signal that the status quo is problematic and that additional effort needs to be exerted to come up with new and useful ideas."[24] The debate is not binary, with some studies saying that both positive and negative emotions play a role in creativity.[25][26] Additionally, the connection between mood and creativity is rarely direct; rather, being in certain moods forces or fosters people into certain actions that make them more creative at the moment. For instance, negative emotions have been shown to increase the amount a person will reflect and ruminate, which then can cause a person to be more creative.[27]
    The study found that unsociable individuals were more likely to be highly creative. To the authors' knowledge, these results offer 'the first evidence of a potential benefit' of unsociability.
    It's actually very detrimental imo, and always better to not be mentally ill and neurotic or unfocused/easily distracted if you want to create anything.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...9.2021.2012633

    Antisocial Schizotypy Is Linked to Malevolent Creativity

    The personality trait of schizotypy has received considerable attention in creativity research; however, to date, literature has exclusively focused on its relationship with benevolent creative ideation. The present study investigated how different subdimensions of schizotypy were related to malevolent creativity, where original ideas are generated to harm others intentionally. N = 104 participants completed a novel performance test for malevolent creativity and reported the frequency of engaging in malevolent creativity in daily life. Schizotypy was assessed with a multidimensional inventory (sO-LIFE). The sO-LIFE subdimension of Impulsive Non-conformity positively correlated with individuals? performance on the malevolent creativity test as well as with their typical malevolent creativity behavior, confirming our expectations that individuals high in impulsive antisocial schizotypy demonstrate a greater capacity and willingness to use creativity toward malicious goals. Results also indicated a weak contribution of Unusual Experiences to malevolent creativity performance, yet correlations were only significant at the trend level. Unexpectedly, Cognitive Disorganization was positively correlated with malevolent creativity behavior in daily life. This pattern of relationships shows that individual differences in schizotypal personality traits are also related to darker sides of creativity, which may inform future investigations embedded into the rich framework linking creativity and psychopathology.
    I'm a bit like this I would say. Well, I don't really want to harm people exactly I just like these comments I got on YouTube (and also seeing people react in similar ways to other people, and also other stuff I've posted that didn't involve creativity on my part at all but scared people) uh I get a combination of comments like this though:

    You never fail at creativity 😊
    OMG, that is so cursed
    Really clever and creative! Loved the worldbuilding, that maze felt like a mix between Pixar and a horror movie.
    I only found you a few months ago and have been playing catch up with your work and loving everything! You are the most independent, creative and entertaining channel I've seen yet! Your work is awesome! Thank you for sharing!
    ^ I said this before but any comment like this confuses me a lot because I'm not. I'm not 'just' saying that either like really I'm objectively not lol. I think anything I create with this medium though I will never view that way. Even though it has often been fun (when I can actually focus etc.) You're constantly bombarded with the idea that you should be creating the sistine chapel on your own so it's like 'oh well.' And it's not even music etc. Lowbrow basically.

    These vids are so nostalgic and cozy in a weird way!
    I'm going to have nightmares from this
    Oh nightmare fuel
    that look like my fever dream xD btw, i love ur channel <3
    The wedding, and the whole video in general was a fantastic, scary fever dream. ��
    [redacted] is so unsettling and terrifying. This whole scene gave me an experience or a sense of a very vivid dream while having a high fever. I still cannot really understand what is real anymore. I think I'm a bit broken...
    I honestly love how unique your towns are. Not because of the [redacted] aspect (even though that's a plus lmao) but the way the families are set up, their houses, their relationships and backstories... It really reminds me of the chaos kid-me would create.
    Oh, please, make another video about that. I'm sure this is gonna haunt my dreams but I just can't look away. This is majestic. Like a car crash
    fell asleep watching your videos last night (specifically the [redacted]) and ended up having very strange dreams because of it. thank you!
    ^ I like this one because I often don't remember my dreams now but I like when I have weird/surreal ones so it's cool to be able to do that and a few other people commented something similar at one point.

    Also some comments about making people feel better who are struggling with things mentally etc. I like making people feel better but also like it when people have 'wtf' type reactions. I don't actually consume conventional horror because I don't read/watch things generally anymore (fiction I mean, watch lots of YouTube videos obviously lol,) though I used to more when I was younger and also like I always spent a lot of time reading fanfiction and still do sometimes (also might read about them sometimes though) which is maybe ironic I dunno though stuff I create is also rarely conventional horror anyway. Like some of my videos have been compared to people whose work I know of because I know they're popular but I have next to no exposure to them and haven't watched anything they've made lol....

    But so do I spend as much time creating stuff as I do obsessing over people who hate people like me online? No. No I do not. Not even a tiny fraction of that time at this point. I have this story I want to finish with my video series and I'm not working on it....

    Also I'm not very creative so it's not something I can just do all the time on tap etc. I also used to create more things - paint etc but always low quality. I'm like 3/10 creatively.

    But realistically most creative people fail that's why it's described as high risk/reward. I think the way culture treats people like this is very shit. They want what the most successful people create but treat everyone terribly and with total contempt until/if they succeed.

    In general, creativity isn't strongly linked to conscientiousness. This makes intuitive sense because creative people rely more on spontaneity, which isn't exactly one of conscientiousness's strongest points.
    Sometimes even then if they're very conservative. Conservatives don't like art as a rule.

    I sometimes wonder if all people who just sit around doing drugs and playing games etc (if that's all they do,) are just creative people who gave up entirely. They can't do anything else though because of their personality type. Probably not but still there's obviously nothing else for them to really do now with their personality in this environment. That's why they're doing that. I dunno maybe:

    https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2011/v...-to-creativity

    A study of nearly 500 12-year-olds found that the more kids played video games, the more creative they were in tasks such as drawing pictures and writing stories. In contrast, use of cell phones, the Internet and computers (other than for video games) was unrelated to creativity, the study found.
    I know there was some survey on gamers and gender that found that non-binary people tended to play creative games more often. So that's a thing as well. This was an old survey but this webpage seems newer so I guess they carried out more surveys and found the same kind of thing:

    https://quanticfoundry.com/2023/03/2...de-the-binary/

    They have lumped trans and non-binary together which isn't ideal and also potentially they just included binary trans people with male and female so that's also not clear.

    For this analysis, to provide a more specific and consistent sample for interpretation, we analyzed only gamers in the US. Altogether, we had a sample of 13,595 trans and non-binary gamers, collected between June 2015 and January 2023. Among these respondents, the vast majority (92% ) identified using a term under the non-binary umbrella (e.g., gender fluid, genderqueer, nb, demiboy/girl, androgyne, neutrois) and the remaining identified specifically as transgender (e.g., MTF, transfemale) or a combination of the two (e.g., "non-binary trans feminine").
    1) The Prevalence of Trans and Non-Binary Gamers Has Grown from 1% to 5% in the Past 7 Years
    Trans and non-binary gamers have a distinct motivation profile. They are most driven by Fantasy (being someone else, somewhere else) and Design (self-expression, customization), and they tend to be much less interested in Power (leveling up, unlocking skill trees), Strategy (thinking/planning ahead), Challenge (high difficulty, practice, mastery), and Competition (PvP, arena, leaderboards).

    Overall, trans and non-binary gamers have a profile that clearly leans towards the Immersion and Creativity motivations.
    Well you're being attacked by real people might as well [BEEP] off and do things in a virtual world. I'm sure a lot of the people who play The Sims (any game,) and Minecraft are like this. There seems to be lots of non-conforming and [BEEP] people floating around.

    4) Trans and Non-Binary Gamer Motivations Aren?t A Linear Mixture of Male & Female Motivations
    Given that male and female gender norms are the dominant social norms, one reasonable hypothesis would have been that trans and non-binary gaming motivations could be modeled as some linear mathematical mixture of known male and female gaming motivations--not necessarily the average, but lying somewhere between the two profiles. It turns out this is not the case.

    Male gamers tend to be most motivated by Competition, Excitement, and Challenge. Female gamers tend to be most motivated by Completion, Fantasy, and Design. Trans and non-binary gamers have a motivation profile more similar to that of female gamers, but trans and non-binary gamers don't over-index on Completion and they are more interested in Discovery. In short, the motivation profile of trans and non-binary gamers isn't a linear mixture of male and female motivations, but is a distinct profile.
    This is actually something I spend a lot of time doing whenever playing any game lol. Also trying to figure out ways to test the limits of the game and what you can do. But I'm also interested in the other stuff. If I'm playing a competitive game I want to win.

    Also uh:

    5) Popular Games Among Trans and Non-Binary Gamers


    6) Unpopular Games Among Trans and Non-Binary Gamers


    I liked playing WoW though lol. Like if I was listing my favourite games that I've ever played it would be one of them lol. Obviously the extreme kind of 'devote your entire life to this and join a guild' sort of aspect wasn't what appealed to me though and is intimidating. (Also I have social anxiety disorder so that's hugely limiting.) And I haven't heard of most of the games on the list of most liked games. So that's funny.

    Actually I haven't heard of any of those games really. I can work out what some of the games are about genre wise but I'm not really familiar with any of them. The name deltarune sounds vaguely familiar and that's about it. I think it's because they're probably indie games or newer and popular with younger people and I've not been paying much attention to most games for several years now. Like I used to check steam and use steam to play games more but haven't in years. But also it's funny because they're like 'they're creative and also their favourite game is obey me! One master to rule them all.' I don't know anything about that game but it just sounds funny. Conservatives would love this. Arthoe wojak is trying to control you. Someone should tell them. It's actually just a dating sim.

    The game opens with the main character hearing a voice calling to them in their dreams, asking for their help because they're held prisoner. When they awake, they found themself in a courtroom-like space, where they are introduced to Lord Diavolo, the next-in-line Demon King of the Devildom, the land of demons.
    OK this just sounds like Doug Dimmerdome:



    This is the only thing I remember from this show that I didn't really watch as a kid.

    He tells them that they were one of two humans chosen for an exchange program to foster a better understanding between demons, humans, and angels. He then introduces them to the head of Student Council at the demon's academy they'll be attending, Lucifer, who informs them that they will be living in the Devildom for a year as an exchange student at RAD. He appoints his brother Mammon as their guardian, and they move into the dorm where Lucifer and his six brothers live. From there, the protagonist must make pacts with each brother, a bond where they're able to command the demons to do as they say, in order to discover the secrets of the seven highest-ranked demons of the Devildom.
    That's so stereotypical as a game non-binary people would play lol. Oh my God.

    No conservatives should really read these results.

    I'm dying.

    But it's kind of sad because what it's sort of doing is recreating the role that is now entirely redundant in Western culture that non-binary people sometimes have/had. Obviously people didn't and don't use that label in many places because that's a new label but the same kind of people and beliefs that existed in those cultures. Also afab people rarely were included due to the pressure to reproduce. When there are other roles they were generally expected to be ascetic and forgo sex altogether - starting before puberty generally and then perform certain masculine roles but they didn't have a distinct role most of the time. If they later had sex with men that's stigmatised too. This has been described as a method of control.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society

    In pre-Islamic Bugis culture, bissu were seen as intermediaries between the people and the gods, according to Indonesian anthropologist professor Halilintar Lathief. The bissu are closely associated with the female yet androgynous moon goddess, as her spiritual offspring.[12] Up until the 1940s, the bissu were still central to keeping ancient palace rites alive, including coronations of kings and queens.[7] Historically, bissu have played an important role in other ceremonies as well, particularly in weddings and childbirth events.

    Within the bissu category, there are also several subcategories with differing roles, as described in poems such as La Galigo. One consists of those directly descended from the gods and tightly connected to the courts and nobles. The second consists of landowning bissu who are absent from spiritual roles. The last category consists of bissu whose main roles are in facilitating religious rites.[12]
    Bugis society has a cultural belief that all five genders must coexist harmoniously;[5] but by 2019 the numbers of bissu had declined dramatically, after years of increasing persecution and the tradition of revering bissu as traditional community priests. Bissu have mostly survived by participating in weddings as maids of honour and working as farmers as well as performing their cultural roles as priests. Hardline Islamic groups, police and politicians have all played their part in Indonesia's increased harassment and discrimination of nonheterosexuals.
    https://alpennia.com/blog/looking-th...n-subcontinent

    So there's some notes about this:

    As I note at the beginning of this entry, I'm a bit uncertain about the viewpoint of this article. That's one of the reasons why I placed it at the end of the series on Indian topics, after several by authors working within their own cultural context. In general, I try to be careful about using sources for non-western cultures because of the colonial legacy even when western academics are studying gender and sexuality from a positive point of view. In practice, this has often meant that the Project has included embarrassingly little material from outside Europe, the Mediterranean, and Euro-American cultures. I try to keep my eyes open for promising sources to counter that imbalance but not at the expense of the quality of the contents. This one was a bit on the edge for me, though I'm a little more comfortable with it after reviewing Thadani's work.
    [Note: I have some reservations about this article because it feels very much like a western outsider using primarily western/translated sources to try to say big-picture things about gender and sexuality in South Asia. There is a fair amount of speculative language ("such women could have...") and conflation of historic evidence from wildly disparate times and places whose primary common theme is "not part of western Christian culture." Take it for what it's worth.]
    When looking for parallel or equivalent female (or AFAB) roles, one encounters the strong pressure on women to marry and the negative social implications of refusing or failing to do so. But there are remnants of established roles for non-married women in some isolated traditional societies, such as the sadhins among the Gaddhi people in the Himalayan foothills. The root of the word means "a holy person" but unlike the masculine sadhu it doesn?t identify someone with religious obligations but rather a "sworn celibate woman." Such women renounce marriage but continue to live with their families, retain female names, and are referred to with feminine language. They may socialize as women but may also on occasion socialize as men. The renunciation must occur at puberty, in contrast to other female ascetics who may change their status later in life after marriage or widowhood. A sadhu who later changes her mind and has sex with men is stigmatized.
    The sadhins don't meet the three-part framework for a "third gender" established above as they take on male economic roles (rather than a specialized separate economic position), do not perform ritual functions, and are not associated with same-sex activity.
    A different context is associated with a group of "transvestite" men and women in southern India associated with devotion to the goddess Yellamma who change gender presentation in terms of clothing and are considered to have changed sex (rather than being a distinct and separate gender category), and are known respectively as jagappa (for those AMAB) and jagamma (for those AFAB). Membership in this group is considered to be divinely mandated and is signaled by a set of conventional physical symptoms. On accepting membership, a jagamma will typically change to wearing male garments, but they do not typically adopt male names, use male pronouns, or take on male professions. Both jagammas and jagappas participate in public ritual functions associated with membership.
    Early legendary material from India includes divinely mediated change of sex, in contexts where the change is motivated by misogynist or heteronormative imperatives. A queen who had given birth to seven daughters and no sons was told her next child must be a son. The resulting daughter, Amba, was raised as a boy. When she married, her true sex was discovered but she was able to become physically male by exchanging sex with a supernatural creature. In various stories, a princess is disguised as a prince and changes sex (by entering a body of water) in order to marry another woman. [Note: if I were reaching widely across cultures and time periods for thematic connections, I might note the motif of the bath in the context of magical sex-change in the story of Yde and Olive.]
    Yeah there's some weird overlap with underworld and water themes and also that one paper I read where trans women often identify with mermaids... But that was trans women. I also wanted to be a mermaid as a kid though lol. I was always trying to run into the sea too but I don't remember that time as I was very young.

    https://scholarworks.umass.edu/cgi/v...n_faculty_pubs

    In this study, feminine-identified transgender children repeatedly drew themselves as mermaids in self-portraits and highlighted the importance of other mermaid related play throughout their drawings and narratives. Even very young transgirls insisted that their drawings of mermaids represented the joy of being able to be their true selves, affirmations of femininity and nascent trans pride.
    Lol this blog is called 'performing Humanity' of course it is:

    https://performinghumanity.wordpress...-articulation/

    This return to the sea and its symbolic relationship is also demonstrative of the knowledge possessed by sirens. Lao states, "It is of the marine element, and thus prophetic and secret [?] sirens call to man, urging him to abandon what he is fear of the sirens is the fear of upsetting the established equilibrium, of transforming, of being replaced" (21). Lilith and Tiamat were said to possess similar knowledge: the kind that wreaks fear in the hearts of men. Lao describes said marine knowledge as ambivalent: water can be both a blessing and a curse. She says, "All the vital processes take place in aqueous substance [?] in Greek mythology, rivers are the passage to the underworld" (20). Consequently, any woman tied to water or marine instinct should be feared for possessing the capability to dispense both death and immortality.
    Before and during the Renaissance, the mermaid existed as a sort of anti-woman. For authors such as Poliziana, Milton, and Calderon de la Barca, the mermaid's knowledge or beauty led men from their paths to righteousness. The Catholic Church accepted this imagery, using the mermaid in masonry and carving for nearly 600 years. To Catholic priests, she was the temptress standing, or swimming, between a man and God (Philpotts 50). Michelangelo's, The Fall of Man and his Expulsion from Paradise, further perpetuates this fear of the sexualized, learned woman. The figure seducing Adam and Eve at the Tree of Knowledge is a woman with a serpentine tail, reminiscent of the mermaid in shape and substance.
    https://alpennia.com/blog/looking-th...n-subcontinent

    Sanskrit religious and medical texts provide ambiguous and confusing hints at possible third-gender roles for women. The confusion is increased when western translations of the works impose ill-fitting categories on them via vocabulary choice. References to a tritiya prakriti (third nature) "one with neither masculine or feminine nature" have been interpreted as applying only to AMAB people who may take on female clothing or may undergo castration, but other interpretations suggest it includes cross-gender roles for both sexes. As the term appears in the context of sexual texts (the Kama Sutra), the term may be concerned specifically with roles associated with sexual activity. Within this context, the female term purushupini for a "third nature" may be connected with terms discussing "virile behavior in women" or women who take a "masculine role" in sex (e.g., penetration of either male and female partners). But much of the ambiguity comes from the focus in the text on male sexual activity and appropriate sexual partners for men, thus the possible implications of female same-sex relations are not explored.
    The sexual role of svairini (who can take on a penetrative role) is problematic in translated works, which generally try to shoehorn it into meaning "lesbian" Contextual examples seem to imply a meaning more like "a woman who operates sexually outside the normative female role." For example the svairini is listed as a type of prostitute (or, at least, a type of woman with whom it's permitted to engage in certain sex acts). But elsewhere it's noted "Svairini are independent women who frequent their own kind or others." (But does the "own kind/others" distinction mean "other svairini / non-svairini women" or "women/men"?) In another passage, "The svairini is one who refuses a husband and has relations in her own home or in other houses," which could imply simple marriage resistance while rejecting celibacy. And elsewhere the svairini is specifically described as engaging in sex with women, but specifically in a penetrative role. So is the svairini a gender role or a sexual one?
    It sounds like the stereotype of a bisexual woman or afab non-binary person in modern Western culture. Or as that other guy would say about people with dyed hair. 'This may be more common among people who are more r-oriented than K-oriented.' LOL. Which is the evo-psych way of calling you a whore.

    But there is enough evidence to support an understanding of a variety of "separate gender" roles for AFAB people in the past, some with religious functions, some with economic basis, and some associated with specific sexual interests. The degree to which these roles were self-chosen may have varied. While the concept of a "third nature" was viewed, in some circumstances, as an inherent trait, there is no clear unifying single model, nor do the Indian examples clearly align with "third gender" roles in other traditional societies worldwide. The Indian subcontinent was settled by successive waves of invasion or migration across a long period and the disparate "third gender" roles may represent the remnants of many different traditions (and tend to be geographically localized). Even before the effects of colonialism, cultural influences that resulted in the decline of Buddhism and those associated with the Muslim invasions altered the nature and understanding of third-gender roles.
    https://oxfordre.com/classics/displa...9381135-e-8063

    Compared to simultaneous bisexuality, successive bisexuality assumes a very different significance. Those who have both sexes successively are mediators and essentially "shamans," or seers. The most significant example in this regard remains *Tiresias*.27 As a seer, he establishes a relation between the world of the gods and that of mankind. Because he retains his mind in Hades, he remains alive among the dead. Because he lives for seven generations, he establishes a link between youth and old age. The fact that he is first a man, then a woman, before becoming a man once again, allows him to establish a relation between the world of men and that of women. It is as though a being that transcends the oppositions around which actual reality is articulated had to symbolise that transcendence in the most important opposition for human beings: the opposition between man and woman. Nevertheless, a third version of the myth of Tiresias, which ends with his transformation into a mouse, adds the transgression of a new opposition: the one between human and animal. In addition, it introduces us to a bestiary of bisexuality and divination, which includes animals that all maintain an obvious relation with bisexuality.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

    In some versions of the Ramayana, when Rama leaves Ayodhya for his 14-year exile, a crowd of his subjects follow him into the forest because of their devotion to him. Soon Rama notices this, and gathers them to tell them not to mourn, and that all the "men and women" of his kingdom should return to their places in Ayodhya. Rama then leaves and has adventures for 14 years. When he returns to Ayodhya, he finds that the hijras, being neither men nor women, have not moved from the place where he gave his speech. Impressed with their devotion, Rama grants hijras the boon to confer blessings on people during auspicious inaugural occasions like childbirth and weddings. This boon is the origin of badhai in which hijras sing, dance, and give blessings.
    School is another dangerous place, full of bullying, blackmailing, and abuse. Many young hijra can't survive in this kind of environment and so they drop out of school and run away from home.9 For example, one participant in a study said, "I could not continue my education because the boys at school ridiculed me and called me names since my body language, movement and gestures were somehow different and students were able to recognize the difference."10 The only place left to go is a home that is specifically made for hijras to live in, run by a mentor called a guru. These places let hijras be free to be themselves; they can wear makeup and feminine clothes freely. However, they also are required to make money, and although they perform at events such as weddings and births, that is primarily done through sex work with a bit of begging as well. Sex work leaves them at high risk for both abuse and HIV/AIDS, but other jobs are mostly unavailable due to stigma, lack of education, and abuse from coworkers.11
    There's stuff that I read but can't find now before that goes more into the role thing and compares with modern day genderqueer people, and maybe other [BEEP] people too.

    Also I'm really surprised that Call of Duty (any game in that series I guess,) isn't on that list or even number one. Because I've never had much interest in playing that game, the fanbase is very.... Yeah. Infamous actually. And it's stereotypically the most masculine male game I would say. So that's interesting.

    I'm not playing games as much these days as when I was younger but I like ps1 platformers that I grew up with and played a lot, Tekken arcade games (cause I like playing it in arcades as well lol because I'm too lazy to set up my ps3 and play the last Tekken game I bought, my brain and ability to focus at home is so broken by the internet that I have to leave the house to watch films at the cinema and play some games in arcades... That was their plan all along it's how you get exercise) other arcade games, The Sims games, I still 'play' Runescape regularly, Elder Scrolls games - I like fantasy, rpgs, Final Fantasy VII, Fallout 3 (I'm not going to exhaustively list every game I've enjoyed lol.) I used to like Pokemon games a lot as a kid. I like GTA too but I've only played 4. GTA appeals to me though because it's a sandbox game and there's a lot of things you can do in the game. The more linear a game is the less into it I generally am. I also like weird indie games sometimes like Binding of Isaac and The Stanley Parable.

    But I id as non-binary and male and female so. I'm not even sure if that was an option in the survey lol. Like multiple choice.

    I don't think I'm creative because I'm often distracted from that and because I've had minimal success and I'm unmotivated and I also don't think I come up with very original ideas either. And sometimes it's just something I've stumbled on as a complete accident (in fact the most success I've had came from a complete accident that I developed over time,) I also work better with an audience probably because I don't self motivate well - I'm quite narcissistic and the feedback also helps inspire me (but paradoxically attention freaks me out so that's not a great combination,) but then most creative people fail or fail in their lifetime while they're alive, so measuring that is kind of difficult anyway.



    He's sensible so avoids social media entirely.



    I'll take being lazy over extremely conscientious, conservative men. Their solution to everything is ultimately 'kill inferior people.' Mostly [BEEP] women as it turns out.

    While they pretend they don't get off on the idea of being cucked.

    And maybe if you want to destroy us you deserve to be destroyed.

    Speaking of the UK:

    Among women who turned 45 last year almost one in five 18% were without children, a big rise compared with the 13% of their mothers' generation who did not become a parent. The number of women having only one child has also risen sharply in that age group, from 13% among their mothers' generation to 17% last year.
    The proportion of women who reached 30 years without a child has changed substantially over time (Figure 2), with half (50.1% ) of the latest cohort to reach 30-years-old (born in 1990) having no children. The lowest level of childlessness (17.9% ) by age 30 years was for those born in 1941.


    Holy water cannot help you now
    Thousand armies couldn't keep me out
    I don't want your money
    I don't want your crown
    See, I've come to burn your kingdom down


    Hmm speaking of Florence Welch:

    Welch has been open about her struggles with anxiety and depression, as well as with alcohol. Many of her songs reflect these issues.[92] In 2019, she discussed her panic attacks in an interview with Sinead Burke. She explained, "My hands go tingly, my lips go tingly. I sort of think that it's very serious and I'm about to die and I have to lie on the floor and breathe...I know I'm having a panic attack, really. But I also really want someone to take me to hospital."[93]
    In Florence and the Machine's 2018 single "Hunger", she opened up for the first time about an eating disorder she had as a teenager. She has also spoken of being a highly imaginative and fearful child. "I learned ways to manage that terror?drink, drugs, controlling food..."[18]


    She has multiple learning disorders too:

    Despite an early love of reading and literature, she was diagnosed with dyslexia, owing to problems with spelling, alongside dyspraxia, a developmental coordination disorder that does not affect her reading ability, but caused issues with organization.[20][21] Music and books gave her a reprieve from what she felt made her different from others. "I used reading as a form of escape. I was shy and sensitive, and so reading gave me a safe space."[22]


    We argue in the kitchen about whether to have children
    And about the world ending, and the scale of my ambition
    And how much is art really worth
    The very thing you're best at is the thing that hurts the most

    I need my golden crown of sorrow
    My bloody sword to swing
    My empty halls to echo with grand self-mythology
    I am no mother, I am no bride, I am king
    I am no mother, I am no bride, I am king

    But a woman is a changeling, always shifting shape
    Just when you think you have it figured out
    Something new begins to take
    What strange claws are these scratching at my skin?
    I never knew my killer would be coming from within
    I am no mother, I am no bride, I am king
    I am no mother, I am no bride, I am king


    And I was never as good
    As I always thought I was
    But I knew how to dress it up
    I was never satisfied, it never let me go
    Just dragged me by my hair
    And back on with the show


    Lol the juxtaposition here kind of cracks me up though cause the Americans are like:

    'Lol you're a loser 'consoomer' from reddit with glasses.'

    vs

    'I like to play video games so I'm not having kids.'

    And then English people are like:

    'I'm going to burn down your kingdom.' (Me not Florence, though she wrote the lyrics.)

    vs

    'You are genetic mutants who should have died during the Industrial revolution. Things were better when we burnt you to death.'



    Actually you know it basically is this scene now that I think about it:



    LOL

    "Your birth rate was to die."

    Because he was small and weak and abandoned by the frost giants.

    So dramatic.

    Edit: Lol I meant birth right not birth rate but that's a great Freudian slip because that too is dying.

    No obviously it's not that simple or one sided, but it's funny. Everytime I see an extreme psychopath culture warring they are typically from my country.

    I feel like British people especially English people are very inexpressive but have this intense hatred and rage underneath, especially upper middle class English people. And Americans are expressive but it's hard for them to reach the same level/vibe most of the time. I might just find British people creepier/worse though because I'm British so it's more personal (I don't think so though because most of the internet thinks British people are the worst atm.) Sometimes when Americans have a similar vibe or something I'll find out they're part English... Creepy.

    She was also British I guess not Enya Boudica:



    Boudica's husband Prasutagus, with whom she had two daughters, ruled as a nominally independent ally of Rome. He left his kingdom jointly to his daughters and to the Roman emperor in his will. When he died, his will was ignored, and the kingdom was annexed and his property taken. According to the Roman historian Tacitus, Boudica was flogged and her daughters raped.[1] The historian Cassius Dio wrote that previous imperial donations to influential Britons were confiscated and the Roman financier and philosopher Seneca called in the loans he had forced on the reluctant Britons.

    In 60/61, Boudica led the Iceni and other British tribes in revolt. They destroyed Camulodunum (modern Colchester), earlier the capital of the Trinovantes, but at that time a colonia for discharged Roman soldiers. Upon hearing of the revolt, the Roman governor Gaius Suetonius Paulinus hurried from the island of Mona (modern Anglesey) to Londinium, the 20-year-old commercial settlement that was the rebels' next target. Unable to defend the settlement, he evacuated and abandoned it. Boudica's army defeated a detachment of the Legio IX Hispana, and burnt both Londinium and Verulamium. In all, an estimated 70,000?80,000 Romans and Britons were killed by Boudica's followers. Suetonius, meanwhile, regrouped his forces, possibly in the West Midlands, and despite being heavily outnumbered, he decisively defeated the Britons. Boudica died, by suicide or illness, shortly afterwards. The crisis of 60/61 caused Nero to consider withdrawing all his imperial forces from Britain, but Suetonius's victory over Boudica confirmed Roman control of the province.
    Her army didn't win and so we're still buthurt about that probably. Unconsciously I mean. I didn't know who Boudicca was before googling the Enya song and I didn't hear the Enya song until I watched an episode of Criminal Minds in I think late 2021? And I only started watching Criminal Minds because I saw a clip with Spencer Reid and wanted to read fanfiction about the character so I thought I should watch every episode first but drifted around season 9 or so (it's an insanely long series.) So basically what I'm saying is genius twinks lead to violence.

    Someone's actually investigating this. That's great:

    Why British are full of repressed rage?

    Is it because you repress it? I?ve never seen anyone going from lovely and polite to raging in a matter of seconds as much as a Brit. Could you explain why? Are you always raging and disguise this with politeness?


    Sometimes they live in Birmingham though. That's a different thing:



    I think this contributes:

    This isn't so much a thing that Brits are full of repressed rage, more that our angry people are encouraged by social pressure to hide it more. I don't think we are any angrier than anywhere else, we just have a veneer on top so you can't see as easily who is an angry person and who isn't.
    Yeah this is really annoying though actually and Americans did kind of adopt this psychopathic rhetorical style to some extent:

    Much of the fun of any intra-British argument is being the last to lose one's temper. That way you get to smile a supercilious smile and say something along the lines of 'my word, you do seem rather angry', or 'perhaps you should calm down - your blood pressure will thank you'. The next move is to step back from punching range.
    Well they tried to, but people like Ben Shapiro can't pull it off at all.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    My headphone cable is broken and I need to get a new one I think (and maybe new headphones again since the wireless feature also broke a month or so before that...) But because of that if the cable is in certain positions sometimes it sounds like water pouring like some kind of fountain or tap while listening to music. Weird.

    I don't really like that the older I get the longer the hair I find attractive, and everyone else is moving in the opposite direction. That's very sensible of them in terms of not attracting crazy people but still. (I mean I've always preferred long hair but it went from being a preference to like 'every guy I'm into has long hair now huh?')

    Actually this isn't really a thing in general. Guys have had mostly short or short-ish hair outside maybe the metal subculture for decades. Also it's mostly just cause guys usually eventually cut their hair when they hit a certain age (but that age varies,) or get into a relationship etc.

    I was thinking about this cause for some reason I saw this video thumbnail in smaller form and thought he had much longer hair because I just imagined that or something lol (it seems obvious now that he doesn't):



    Like during this era:



    There aren't many good quality photos/videos etc of when he had hair like that so I got excited. Also I think at some point he had his hair longer than this can't remember.

    Not that that shoulder length hairstyle isn't attractive too, but I'm in my 'super long hair is hot' era it seems. Also he cut his hair way shorter recently for the first time ever which is fine.

    I've been growing my hair out which seems like some weird compulsion because it's somewhat ego dystonic at this stage in my life, and it's also annoying and I don't really want it this long. It's harder to manage and then there's the fact that I've had mild trichotillomania since I was about 11. Even putting that aside when you have long hair it still just gets everywhere no matter what. I randomly decided to see if I could get it to waist length though then cut it as some challenge. Not sure I've ever had it that long. But also I think that might take forever to grow (atm it's about the same length his hair is in that photo actually I think but possibly a bit shorter I think? Hard to say with the angle,) so kind of annoying.

    So I get why someone wouldn't want to have long hair. I'm just being the hair I want to see in the world I guess.

    Then I started googling stuff and stumbled on some thread on the student room forum (which is like some university forum with a mostly UK user base) where some guy was asking whether this girl he liked was less attracted to him after getting a buzz cut because her reaction to him changed. He didn't know whether she was actually attracted in the first place though. This was one of the comments which interested me:

    I've experienced girls having incredibly negative reactions to me getting very short haircuts before. People who previously thought I was very attractive were absolutely horrified.
    Interesting.
    It's probably an amplified effect because my hair, when it's a little longer, gets a lot of attention. If you're the sort of person that people see and think "Wow, I like his hair", a haircut will obviously make a big difference, but otherwise it probably isn't a big deal.
    I wonder if they actually expressed that they were horrified or if he assumed or? I would think most people wouldn't express that to someone irl even if that's how they felt.

    Then I just stumbled on some even weirder stuff:

    I (F24) think the guy I started seeing (M27) has been cutting my hair in my sleep
    I'm fairly new to dating as this is my first time single in about 7 years. I met this guy on a dating app a few months ago and we have been talking back and forth for a few months consistently without meeting until recently because he is admittingly very shy and insecure. I didn't mind not meeting considering I have an avoidant attachment style and really like having my personal time/space. We finally met a few weeks ago and nothing seemed wrong in fact we talked for hours. It wasn't until last week that I started to notice some weird behaviors.

    [...]

    He ended up staying over the next day and I noticed the clingy behavior get worse (for example getting annoyed if I pulled away from him to readjust my body while cuddling.
    Oh no this takes me back.

    I'm not copying this whole thread it was a long post.

    I tried to tell myself that I was crazy and trying to find a way out of a relationship before it began due to my avoidant attachment so I continued to contact him cautiously and decided to hang out with him again last night. I've been really busy with a promotion at work recently so I've been especially tired lately and fell asleep while he was over. I told myself that everything was fine and it was all in my head until later today I was looking in the mirror and noticed on the other side of my head another lock of hair cut an uneven length from the rest of my hair. Now I'm pretty much sure he's been cutting chunks of my hair off while I sleep without me knowing and I'm not sure what to do.
    Someone told her to change the locks on her door after breaking up with him and the other comments are like this:

    I think he's already started the process of changing her locks.
    My God the puns in this post are hair-larious.
    Definitely a hairy situation. Especially after combing through the evidence.
    OP, don't brush this off!
    Seems like he was conditioning her.
    Maybe the police will comb through their arrest records for his criminal history.
    They'll probably end up splitting hairs over the investigation
    They're working hard to get to the root of the issue.
    Why is reddit like this lol?
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Consciousness being the ultimate reality makes sense of the universe being infinite (and finite) just as "space" appears in a dream, space can be infinite within consciousness. In fact, it makes sense of everything. I think it's weird that when people talk about the universe, they're referring to space, time and matter. No on talks about consciousness, when it's the thing that's most directly available to us.
    "When I know that I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I know that I am everything, that is love. Between the two my life moves." - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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    So someone posted a video of a guy I guess from the 1950s asking out a woman in a diner - though the woman doesn't have the right aesthetic for then so they didn't really pull it off and then it cuts to like nightmare music/lighting with a guy scrolling through women on a dating app on his phone.

    Nothing stopping you from still doing this btw
    I don't wanna be that guy, but it takes two.

    What's stopping most isn't the confidence. It's the physical location. You don't find random pretty women at diners anymore. Or at work. Or at church.

    Most are at home or never born...
    You don't find people that pretty in many places because most people are average looking and also if you live in the US overweight. But you can find plenty of women in public still especially in cities.

    Lol, bunch of excuses sadly
    From someone who is now well on the road to marriage, it took me 3 years, several young adult groups, ~5 large events, ~30 smaller events, having a larger confidence than all of my male peers, and going to random public places in order for me to physically find a reasonable woman
    That sounds like a skill issue
    I wouldn't say it's a skill issue since it sounds like he's saying he doesn't find most women attractive. Common for people to not really find people attractive enough to date these days.

    Last time I tried to approach a woman to dance, her overweight friend intercepted me and yelled at me to go the hell away
    i mean, the fact you have to specify a weight characteristics for a situation that doesnt benefit from said info means they def dodged a bullet
    Well he has an cartoon avatar, most of his tweets are just anime memes/videos and his bio is this:

    I came here to laugh at you. Advocate for return to aggressiveness in the military, common sense, and shitposting.
    Another tweet:

    W*men reject you, then ensure no other woman in a 50 mile radius will ever consider dating you
    Probably something else going on there.

    A lot of the other responses are conservative viewpoints, people complaining about Only Fans and elevating the influence of that on women (it's essentially irrelevant to this issue,) and then there's some antisemitic conspiracy image someone uploaded that needs some more pixels (somewhat blurry.) For some reason the text of the meme is all about Germany but the guy posting it is from the US...

    Quoting part of the text:

    Similar to the policies currently underway in all white countries, aren't they? Emasculate the males to prevent violent resistance, and then propagandize the females to breed with males of other races, a very simple plan to destroy a race you've conquered without having to risk your own lives with violence.
    OK lol.

    Actually so. Earlier I was browsing a bunch of subreddits like amitheasshole and eventually stumbled on a thread where someone was asking why people confuse neoteny and femininity which is an interesting question but not related (maybe I'll make a pointless post about that later,) in the comments of that thread people were randomly discussing Asian beauty standards (Asian people often prioritise neoteny more they were saying even when it comes to men,) and then some guy came along complaining about Western propaganda making Asian guys out to be unattractive:

    No other options lol. If there were tons of white guys in Asia, the girls would 100% go for them no questions asked asian women from Asia would rather go for a 1/10 short fat balding white guy than a 10/10 tall jacked Asian guy. Its unfortunate how much western propaganda has gone
    The majority of asian women would move given the chance. If there were an Asian guy and a white guy, both can speak Chinese, both grew up in China, both were cultural the same, both make the same money and have the same job, 10/10 of asian women would choose white guys. Again, the western propaganda is unfortunate
    That would have to be quite the white guy fetish. I'd almost be impressed.

    Meanwhile in South Korea lol:

    There have been a number of car accidents involving Korean idols being followed by sasaeng fans. In 2011, two members of the band Super Junior were caught in a six-car collision after being chased by eight fan vehicles in Singapore. The band members, Leeteuk and Heechul, were unharmed, but Heechul later tweeted that he still suffered after-effects from the accident and was often afraid to drive.[25][26] In 2013, Seungri, formerly of the band Big Bang, suffered minor injuries in a car accident in Shanghai involving a sasaeng fan.[27] In 2015, Chanyeol of the band Exo wrote on Weibo that he was constantly followed by 20 fan vehicles during a visit to Shanghai.[28] In 2016, Jackson of Got7 sustained minor injuries in an accident on the way to an airport in China that involved a fan closely following his car.[29]
    I've got to be honest as attractive as the '1/10 overweight balding white guy' sounds on paper, I'm not sure if he can compete with kpop idols when it comes to those women.

    So I was thinking while reading that there's a tendency for music videos from popular South Korean and Japanese bands to just have a bunch of white women in even though there are basically none living in those countries. Like the more popular they are globally the more I notice maybe some of them are Eurasian but look white:









    Just off the top of my head. Lol someone has apparently made a compilation video for kpop videos with white women in and these were some of the comments:

    Where the hell is black girl's
    Theres a whole [BEEP] channel for that. And multiple videos for it.
    There's a hanful of white girls and black girls in k-pop videos. But what about us latinas?! Are there any latina/native american looking models in k-pop MVs I'm not aware of??
    You don't need validation from korean men anyway smh 🤦🏻*♀️
    Also I looked through that channel and most of their videos are about white women and Kpop idols and then one video about black women and kpop idols.

    It's weird but on the other hand white and black Western guys doing this are more obnoxious and worse:

    https://www.verygoodlight.com/2020/0...ite-supremacy/

    This week, hosts for Dzien Dobry TVN, a Polish morning television show produced an entire segment proving why members of BTS shouldn't have topped TC Candler's "100 Most Handsome Faces" list for 2019 (the band's youngest member, Jeon Jungkook, came in at #1).

    "He's not very masculine," one of the hosts remarked. "More like a little boy than a man." The segment went on to interview people on the streets of Poland to support their thesis of anti-Asian sentiments with some questioning the sex of the members. Prompted on social media on why such a segment was produced, its host, Anna Kalczyńska-Maciejowska said this: "Jungkook wears lipstick, wears huge earrings and is experimenting with the look that I don't find masculine."
    Would any BTS member marry a white girl (if you know Korean and I know the chances are tiny but still)?
    Some black guy on quora (stumbled on this while looking up other stuff for this post lol tbh I mostly expected white guys and seen white guys doing this kind of thing but yeah he's black):

    Most of the Korean boy band members come off as Extremely homosexual in their looks and mannerisms, so I doubt they'd like you in said way. Not only that, its no secret Korea is very racist when it comes to dating non Koreans, which is strange since many all but worship white ethnic features and whites in general.
    There isn't much of a conspiracy here really. People from every group do this. The combination with white women will happen more often not because there's some conspiracy to bring down white people but because conventionally attractive white women are unfortunately seen as trophies and makes men seem higher status. Also sometimes (in the case of Asian music videos,) they're trying to appeal to that audience because they want to appeal to a global audience. Doesn't really effect irl dating patterns much though it's just a media thing.

    White people make up the majority in Western countries so they're usually represented in Western films, TV shows and advertising with interracial relationships which they want to do to increase diversity but one person is still usually white because they don't want to alienate the majority audience by not including someone they can identify with. This results in a disproportionate number of interracial relationships that are white + someone of a different race.

    Certain combinations are also common like black men + white women and Asian woman + white guy, because they're relatively more popular while still being rare overall. Also there's some weird attempt to insist Asian guys aren't attractive which seems more dumb/butthurt every year. This overlaps with the general thing where straight men hate stuff that actually appeals to young women - boyish/neotenous/androgynous musicians. Because they don't fit the type and because they think women should be attracted to more masculine guys. They were equally enraged about Justin Bieber.



    Ridiculous.

    Koreans then, with their dewy complexions, their juicy red lips, their smokey eyes, and piercings, challenge Western ideals of men altogether. For them, power comes in the form of a white man who is gruff, rough, hyper-masculine. For a more fluid form of masculinity to exist has confounded some, enraged others. Coming to terms with Asian male sexuality threatens white male power, a concept that white people rarely have to experience. This place of discomfort ? feeling eclipsed of power ? instills fear.
    The entire movement was a deliberate campaign of Asian male erasure, one that was created to completely castrate Asian men of sexuality and desire. Sparked by white men?s fear that they were losing their white women to "foreign" powers, Yellow Peril was successful at minimizing Asian male existence. To this day, Asian Americans still feel the effects of emasculation, leading to psychological impacts that include thoughts of suicide, low self-esteem or self-worth. A recent study found Asian men to be the "least desirable" demographic in America by both straight and gay communities, in what?s now known as "sexual discrimination."
    I don't actually think the Western beauty standards according to young women actually differ much from East Asian standards it's just that straight people ignore what each other finds attractive on purpose and does their own thing. I don't think white women are generally deluded about what men find attractive (they know they don't on average like dyed hair, tattoos and overweight women,) but I think some white guys have actually convinced themselves that young women are all into hypermasculinity because that's the aesthetic they like...

    These things are competing with each other though like on the one hand men feel bad when they're not represented by very masculine guys as described and when those guys aren't dominant in the culture and media and I think that's probably also the case in East Asia often - especially in China obviously where they ban kpop and websites where women feminise men, danmei comics etc. But since that's something women and especially young women find attractive there's a constant conflict.

    I find it hilarious that I actually found some conservative guy on twitter who was like 'we have to bring back boy bands to the West to stop this anime/kpop worship.'

    Yeah you should probably do something. I dunno what but at this point I'm watching videos from the 1970s and early 1980s out here:



    Kpop isn't a solution because I don't like most of the music lol. I have very high standards. It's the same with this it's OK but no and he looks half dead/really apathetic and suicidal not even my weird green glitter fetish that this video seems to be bizarrely catering to can save this:





    "If you were dead do you think she'd even care?"

    We killed manic pixie dream boys ._. they're just shallow husks now. Dead inside.





    I miss this whole era in music. It had a different energy. I really think it's because people weren't so depressed. This is the remnants of our societal peak in the 90s. It took a while to fizzle out but it's gone now
    I wouldn't say there was some societal peak in the 90s because people have been complaining about a variety of things for so long and there were numerous issues and grunge music:





    Though I still like Nirvana lol probably because I grew up with it. And at least it's angrier. And I prefer rock music.

    But yeah people were less mentally ill and the music in the 2000s was more mixed in energy. There was still stuff like this but it was weirdly still more energetic and then there was also happier/brighter stuff especially in the late 2000s. Lots of people sound like they're trying to be the worst possible version of Deftones where they've stripped everything appealing about Deftones music away and fused the results with electronic music and hip hop. And the electronic music is sometimes happier/bouncier/lighter to contrast but it still doesn't quite work imo (+ sometimes it's not and then you don't even get that.)



    And TikTok has basically demonstrated that 90%+ of women are complete morons.
    I guess if you're retarded and assume it's representational.

    Almost word for word, that's how I asked out my now wife in the middle of the day in the streets of Melbourne, Australia 🦸*♂️ (after being a prolific online dater with more than 150 first dates in two years). Ditched the apps Feb 2018, met Anna in September 2018. Women absolutely love and appreciate this gentleman.
    Good god.

    I don't see what problem is, who actually wants to leave their room?
    Sleep in the pod and eat the bugs pleeb
    Says the guy whose twitter is full of tweets about crypto shit.

    The older women can all bang horny 20-year-olds and they do. Older guys who date online pay for the dates and then the women call the young horny dudes who screw everything with a hole including other guys. if you hear older guy I get dates online is a simp paying for the meals.
    I wasn't invited to that party lol.



    The fact he doesn't want to cuddle all the time is the reason she wants to

    If he fully reciprocated and wanted to cuddle as much, she'd perceive him as lower value and get the ick

    He has a stable high-affection relationship right now. He just has to not [BEEP] it up for 60 years
    This isn't a healthy dynamic. I've been in and avoided similar situations with similar people (or well one guy was like this on the first date so then I avoided a relationship then he went insane,) because it's what happens when you have an avoidant attachment style generally you attract people with an anxious preoccupied attachment style for some reason. You always feel like the other person is smothering you and you have really strong personal boundaries. Then again I also was ambivalent about guys when I got into relationships with them. It's possible that if I found someone I was more compatible with and attracted to and comfortable with I wouldn't feel that way.

    They should talk about it but they're not, in his case that makes sense because he's obviously avoidant. Probably could cuddle while watching TV too but somehow I doubt he wants to and that's why they don't do the obvious.



    Wonder why it's always gendered this way. I feel like you're leaving out t̶h̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶n̶-̶b̶i̶n̶a̶r̶y̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶ and the women who are travelling Europe alone in a van and uh let me quote the thing again:

    Just found this video lol and he's complaining about a woman who lives in a van travelling around Europe etc haha. She found a partner while on the road I think and she's talking about how she worried that they were kind of merged together now and she clearly desired more independence. Again you can see she has an avoidant attachment style lol.

    [...]

    woman in video: 'I kind of lost myself in this relationship'
    Gavin McInnes: 'yeah that's called love you stupid [BEEP]'
    [...]
    other guy behind the camera talking to Gavin: 'And by the way he glommed onto your lifestyle'
    Gavin: 'your stupid lifestyle'
    other guy: 'Yeah'
    Gavin: 'living in a van? Fucking dangerous.'
    [...]
    Woman in video: unfortunately it took me moving to Europe and abandoning everything I had in the US to realise that I need to rekindle my independence a little bit.

    Then they both go on to say that the guy shouldn't have let her break up with him and just been like 'no, we're not breaking up.' and 'take charge stop being such a [BEEP] men.'

    God he's so punchable. And the comments section is a mess too of course. Lots of really bitter men convinced that 'if it was chad or Tyrone she wouldn't have broken up' 'she just wants to have tons of casual sex' and so on. They're just projecting lol because that's what they want.

    Oh and that advice seems to assume the woman is doing it to get some kind of declaration of love/commitment which is what people with anxious attachment styles or borderline personality disorder do, but not avoidants. Stupid.

    The basic method is to build trust and create safety. Interpersonal safety is the primary need of virtually every person I have ever met who suffers from schizoid personality disorder. Yes, they want other things, such as love, respect, and feeling understood, but their priority is feeling safe with the other person.
    I'm sure that kind of thing must appeal to avoidants... I was very into that starting around 2014 but never actually did it because I don't do things or commit to decisions mostly. There's also the economic factor which is appealing where you can potentially build something cheaper in some cases (though lots of microhomes end up being more expensive than their worth.) The control/independence factor is obvious though.

    I don't really endorse this (I mean there's a reason it's not considered a healthy 'secure' attachment style,) but I feel like I've been like this from a young age like that encounter as a kid with another boy where he requested I do something for him and I felt disgusted and lost interest after previously initiating whatever it was I was doing... Probably because of genetics and my parents fucked up dynamic.

    It's also bad because you can't trust yourself. Most people get lonely and bored at some point because they're Human especially if they're not on the extreme end of schizoid PD (even then it just manifests differently.) But then you don't know how you're going to react/feel about your partner even if you have a crush on them from a distance or while you're not together.

    OK but this is hilarious:

    Cuddling is ridiculous. You overheat within like 2 minutes. And then you can't move or adjust or anything. Plus it's an invasion of your space. Women don't want to even generate their own body heat they want to take men's body heat.
    Fair point.
    how in the fucking christ is that a fair point
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    Having no trust circle to vet your dates is going to be absolutely terrible and lead to a lot more abuse
    Yeah for some people it can be hard enough irl but this is going to become a more widespread and frequent problem with online dating because a lot of people are filtered out irl in ways they're not online when you're meeting total strangers almost all the time.

    Oh great apparently Alex Jones is back on twitter. For unclear reasons since I remember Elon saying he didn't want him back on because of the Sandyhook thing years ago.

    .@elonmusk, @Cobratate, & I are on team humanity.
    What a joke.

    Tate won?t have a second of my time.
    You and Elon still have my hope.
    You are a woman nobody cares what u think
    If people said things like this irl they really would get punched a lot more often.

    its ok , we respect the dude . most men do . and you need men to change things , no offence
    Citation needed.

    Are you serious , Andrew is the best look to have he has the young men in millions ...future soldiers .
    Andrew the general and King of Wudang.
    lmfao. Pls tell me you're joking?
    This is my least favourite cult.

    Shut up woman when he was cancelled tate stood beside him where was you
    Guys like this are really lucky that [redacted]

    Learn proper grammar, I almost got an aneurysm. Also, thank you for proving the point. You Tate supporters always see women as less than.
    Women are less than let's be honest men are stronger faster smarter you are less than it's the truth.
    Someone else. Benevolent sexism is still annoying:

    That is true in many ways, but this means men have a responsibility to protect women, whereas Tate has made a career off predating upon both women and men. Of course he's a horrible person, and he's expressed no regrets for his actions. Let's not idolize him
    In other words, regardless of whether the candidate's behavioral style is dominant or communal, participants perceive a highly competent white woman as more "pushy" and "ruthless" than her Asian and male counterparts. These results also do not differ by race and gender of the subject.
    fcks wrong with you. don't attack all women you dipsht
    I love women but we must be honest.
    [B]Catherine II[a] (born Princess Sophie of Anhalt-Zerbst; 2 May 1729 ? 17 November 1796), most commonly known as Catherine the Great,[c] was the reigning empress of Russia from 1762 to 1796. She came to power after overthrowing her husband, Peter III. Under her long reign, inspired by the ideas of the Enlightenment, Russia experienced a renaissance of culture and sciences, which led to the founding of many new cities, universities, and theatres, along with large-scale immigration from the rest of Europe and the recognition of Russia as one of the great powers of Europe.
    This would be him.

    This is retarded.
    True lol.

    This is exactly how the beast rises.

    As an advocate for humanity against totalitarianism.

    The same way the occult sees Lucifer as the liberator from ?God?s tyranny? in the garden.

    Everything playing out is occult initiation of humanity.

    Down the rabbit hole into the awakening
    What is Tate's number in gematria?
    Andrew Tate = 666 (English Gematria)

    Wtf is happening lol?

    people associate dumb ideas with women not because women are dumber than men, but because hot dumb women have a vector for widely disseminating dumb ideas via their sexual access to high status men, but hot dumb men can't do this
    I don't actually because I'm reading the dumbest takes men have constantly online. I think it's because women often adopt new cultural ideas first and experiment with them.

    I don't believe in astrology myself but it's no more stupid than Christianity which people have more respect for due to the numbers who follow that religion.

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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
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    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I think it's funny how people suddenly care about atrocities in the world just because it's in the media, like fucked up [BEEP] hasn't been happening all over the world since forever. It's an illusion of caring in my opinion. It's selective caring.
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