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    "Star Trek" was always groundbreaking in diverse casting and pushing the boundaries; the original series had a pointedly multinational crew without people of color being stereotyped, and most famously even interracial kisses were featured on occasion. The next generation was not quite so daring when it premiered in 1987,
    One form of representation not already explored in the original series was absent, however: gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender people.
    Still, an LGBT character could have been introduced to the main cast at any time, yet seven seasons of "The Next Generation" passed without any such representation being included. [...] Clear to 2005, when Star Trek went off the airwaves for the first time since before "Encounter at Farpoint" in 1987, there was no LGBT representation at all. Retrospectives attribute this to Rick Berman's influence as showrunner for the vast majority of this time period; apparently he did not wish there to be LGBT characters, thus making this entire era of Star Trek far more conservative than it had any right to be.
    It is a bit weird. It was certainly relatively normal to explore stuff like that in science fiction in general, though maybe not on TV as much until further into the 90s. I mean Ursula K Le Guin's work The Left Hand of Darkness wasn't about LGBT people or aliens but explored gender and sexuality:

    The Left Hand of Darkness was among the first books in the genre now known as feminist science fiction and is described as the most famous examination of androgyny in science fiction.[8] A major theme of the novel is the effect of sex and gender on culture and society, explored in particular through the relationship between Ai and Estraven, a Gethenian politician who trusts and helps Ai. When the book was first published, the gender theme touched off a feminist debate over the depiction of the ambisexual Gethenians. The novel also explores the interaction between the unfolding loyalties of its two main characters, the loneliness and rootlessness of Ai, and the contrast between the religions of Gethen's two major nations.
    I'm sure they did explore this a bit in TNG although maybe it was a later series? I remember some episode where a character changed gender at one point (not Human,) and another character who was in love with them explained that they couldn't continue to reciprocate because essentially Humans weren't enligetened enough to see past gender but maybe one day would be or something like that.

    If I google it it just comes up with an episode involving Riker but I swear it was a female character so I don't know. This doesn't sound like that episode either in general so clearly they did explore this a few times but just weren't willing to involve actual Human characters...

    Riker enters into a dangerous liaison with a member of the androgynous J'naii race, who considers herself to only have one gender, a crime in J'naii society.
    I want to know what that episode was though I don't think I imagined it but everything I search doesn't bring it up and I'm really sure it wasn't this one though it sounds interesting.

    While the pair is charting the null space, the shuttle is damaged, and Soren is injured. While being treated by Dr. Crusher, Soren asks her several questions about female gender identification. While Soren and Riker work on the shuttle, Soren confesses that she is attracted to Riker and states that she has a female gender identity. Soren explains that the J'naii are an androgynous species that view the expression of any sort of male or female gender, and especially sexual liaisons, as a sexual perversion. According to their official doctrine, the J'naii had evolved beyond gender and thus view the idea of male/female sexuality as primitive. Those among the J'naii who view themselves as possessing gender are ridiculed, outcast, and forced to undergo "psychotectic therapy" - a form of conversion therapy meant to remediate gender-specificity and allow acceptance back into J'naii society.[2]
    The episode was met with both praise and criticism from the LGBT community. In the case of the latter, criticism came from people who felt that it sanctioned the Spoiler: brainwashing therapy to which Soren was subjected, and others who felt that the creative staff abdicated their responsibility to explore the issue. Some thought the episode too timid, using allegory in lieu of explicitly acknowledging gay relationship, while others critiqued the scenario of a genderless world where heterosexuality was persecuted as the epitome of conservative fears.[4]
    They might have intended it as an metaphor but in a very literal sense it's actually an agender asexual world where being male or female is considered wrong. And ironically that's how it would be taken today by conservatives who freak out about pronouns. So I guess it's aging well?

    It's really going to bug me that I can't find the episode I'm thinking of lol but I cba to keep searching. Aside from knowing it wasn't part of the original series (which I never watched at all,) I can't say much about it with certainty or who the characters were involved were but I thought it might be a female character on TNG. This sounds similar but upon further research it doesn't seem to be this:

    In the "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode titled "The Host", Beverly Crusher falls in love with a shapeshifting alien named Odan, a Trill ambassador who can inhabit different host bodies, essentially making him a shapeshifter; this relationship becomes complicated when she discovers his true nature after he is mortally wounded.
    At a convention in the 1990s, Michael Dorn mocked the episode as being a ripoff of Anne Rice's The Witching Hour.[citation needed]
    OK? lol.

    Anyway yeah I have no idea.

    Captain Picard worked so well as a stoic, chaste, and, yes, straight type that I would never want to tamper with his sexuality much. Jonathan Frakes's Riker worked as a Kirk-esque womanizer a bit too well for me to want to change that dynamic either, [...]

    Data of course barely even has a sexuality, and he represents a character arc that's straight out of classic science fiction: the confrontation between an artificial life-form and humanity. As such, layering an alternative sexuality on his character would perhaps portray it as strange or deviant in some way in subtext, and frankly is a bit too much representational baggage to saddle on the character anyway. [...]

    Worf has the same issue: being a Klingon raised by humans confronting that culture at once as an insider and an outsider is enough to place on his character. [...]

    You could portray a higher degree of bisexuality as something of a Klingon custom, and Worf could have indulged in it, but once again it portrays through subtext alternative sexualities as something weird and deviant, in this case literally alien.
    Geordi La Forge too already has some representational baggage, in his case that of disabled people.
    You know people can be disabled and gay right lol? Like people shouldn't see it as being 'too much' that's a bit fucked up. I'm subscribed to a YouTuber who is deaf, a lesbian, and has some other condition as well I forget. It might even be common since atypical traits tend to cluster for genetic and hormonal reasons. Like how a lot of people with alternative sexualities or who are trans/non-binary are also autistic.

    Klingons are kind of hypermasculine so having a gay Klingon character would have been interesting.

    There's Tasha Yar, but making her a lesbian or bisexual would be just a bit too stereotypical for a (no offense intended) rather butch-seeming lady, and in the real show she was Spoiler: killed off unceremoniously midway through the first season.
    So? The repsentation of butch characters on TV is very slim and there's a reason stereotypes exist because they represent a group that's common. The part where she was Spoiler: killed off would make it fall into the common Spoiler: bury your gays trope though.

    Deanna Troi being lesbian, or perhaps better yet, bisexual might have been the most obvious angle, but Betazoids (even half-Betazoids like her; for some reason they decided to make her half-human) are already stereotyped as being sensual.
    Yeah OK I never really watched the show much besides a handful of episodes when I was a child and teenager and reruns came on TV but I think you probably could have made her and Tasha sapphic and then hooked them up. Or Beverly Crusher could have come out since it's kind of a common theme for older women who already have kids to come out as lesbians or bisexual like Elvira and Cynthia Nixon. This is in a hypothetical future that shouldn't care much too meaning some people would likely come out earlier although I think women coming out later is just as often because of sexual fluidity as concern about judgement.

    I think that's also why they never wanted to cover the topic because it was impacted by politics of that time that wouldn't make much sense in universe and they probably knew it wouldn't age well.

    I agree that Riker would never work as not straight though given it's a large part of his character.

    Oh wait I just found another website so it was The Host episode after all lol? I found a script earlier and couldn't find that part but tbf it didn't seem to be the entire episode in the script:

    Instead, Dr. Crusher was able to fall in love with a parasitic life-form and have a physical connection with the body of "someone she considered a brother" but ended things when the life form's new host body was female. Then, she blamed it on humanity's shortcomings, without acknowledging bisexuality. On top of that, the episode reeks of transphobia which, while perhaps more accepted in the 90s when there was a lack of transgender representation across media, was no less offensive and harmful. Many people in relationships transition and stay partnered because their romantic partners love them not their gender. And those who don?t stay through their partner?s transition don?t blame it on humanity -- they acknowledge they aren't bisexual, or pansexual.
    I more took that to mean Humans generally can't avoid being superficial. There are bisexual people who also break up with their trans partners because they're not attracted to them anymore.

    Also it's not just about physical appearence but because many trans people's voice changes in a way that you don't necessarily find attractive or they change a bunch of other stuff about themselves occasionally regarding interests and such (I think that's becoming less common these days but historically people would try to fit in a lot more.) Here's a good historical example:

    She stopped painting, because she considered that it was a job that she did like Einar Wegener, and like Lili, as a woman, with a new identity, she was no longer interested in continuing to paint;
    This makes no sense to me btw but I think it's something that's more common for trans women (historically anyway.) But if you go back to before the 90s queer/gay trans guys (who usually are more feminine,) didn't even transistion really. Nowadays trans guys are just like "I'm going to be 100% feminine [BEEP] you" and then have a war about it within the trans masc community like a post I made recently and then deleted because it was kind of harsh lol but I find these guys irritating:

    Yeah I know, plenty of them play [BEEP] like Stardew Valley, Animal Crossing, etc. And I've actively searched for other transguys with male hobbies and unless they're truscum, they very rarely have them. I'm not going to argue with you or anyone else though about male hobbies versus female hobbies because I know in 2024 if a dude plays Nail Painting Simulator then obviously the game was 100% marketed for cis man too even though we know the opposite reality. But ultimately this is why half the community can't relate to the other half because one half is actually assimilating and the other side are femboys or whatever the [BEEP] you wanna call these buzzwords.

    I live in one of the highest and most accepting places for trans people to be open and proud. You're delusion if you think I've only seen these people online when I'm near two of the biggest [BEEP] capitals in arguable the US.
    Binary transsexual man with Traditional values
    A lot of transguys actively dress feminine, never develop any male hobbies or friendships. It's genuinely one of those things where you have to lowkey hold their hand and teach them how to be a man but they love being "boys" for some reason. The minute I ask another transguy half the time if he fucks with video games he looks at me like I just spoke Chinese. Yet I've never met a cis guy who I couldn't talk to about games for example.
    lol yes, gaming, the pinnacle of maleness.
    🤣 killed me.

    Weird take. Yes hunting is male dominated. But in general [...] is correct.

    Gaming absolutely is male dominated when you talk about the biggest and most popular games. Fortnite, COD, nearly all male.

    The vast majority of female gamers play causal games on their phone, and even when they do play on console or PC it's games like the sims.

    Nearly all cis men like shooter games.

    Pretty much every cis male between 5 and 45 have bonded with other male friends over online shooters.

    But it's really hard to find other trans men who like shooters let alone seriously play shooters. I've only met 2 trans guys that can go positive in my nearly 20 year quest to find other trans men to play COD with.

    Yet every class I had, every job, every brother of every girlfriend, random guys at parties, dam near every guy has played cod or another shooter and the vast majority can go positive.
    Am I the only one that rarely sees trans women even being mentioned in this sub?

    Anti masculinity definitely is a problem in the trans community though.
    Im with you im tired of the same crying over and over and I would like as a trans man have a place to talk about stuff, beers manybe, gym, hobbies but aparently "im too toxic" or overcompensating or whatever when I just like male stuff since im a guy and im not interested in queerness and other stuff
    Plus I hate when the fools than ask questions cause they never grew up around males and have no idea and a trans girl gives them advice they have massive meltdowns. Like dude the ones than had been actually cool had been the trans girls not with teen girl drama like the trans mascs
    you can just talk about gym stuff on ftm fitness

    also who goes to any male subreddit to talk about? beer?
    I'm non-binary and I'm reasonably feminine but also not as feminine as some trans guys I've come across or that they are complaining about in some ways (I haven't medically transistioned though so they still hate me haha,) but it's still so pathetic to me when they turn it into some weird competition. Especially when they bring up stuff like 'I played video games that aren't for girls.' Who the [BEEP] hasn't played Fallout 3 or something at some point? One time I had a sixth form teacher ask me if I was in the right place and if I was studying fashion design because of my alternative clothing when I was studying a software development course. I'm white and phenotypically female and the class was mostly South Asian with a couple of white guys, a couple of black guys, 2-3 South Asian female students depending on the year. I generally find guys like this to be quite misogynistic (their behaviour contributes to experiences like I had in sixth form,) and no surprises one of those trans guys was gay either - it's a common problem in certain subsets of the gay male community.

    Progressive people do often have issues with either men and/or masculinity though but it often comes from negative experiences regarding devaluation of femininity among other things.

    Like that guy said before:

    So this seems to be the answer: the framework for transmasculine identity is that of existing as a shadow. It is banishment from any existing framework, giving trans men two options: either pass and assimilate so seamlessly that you uphold cis manhood in your attempts to achieve it, or be swept away and disposed of so you don't pose a threat. The former kind of trans men make up the large subset of self-described "truscum" and "transmedicalist" trans men, who view themselves as nothing but cis men embarrassingly born without a penis. These types often pass easily and transition young, and are very stereotypically masculine. The latter are, by definition, unseen. The closest thing to a figure of this type is the "Tumblr SJW" stereotype, who are more often depicted as AFAB nonbinary people than trans men. This may account for the proliferation of transmasculine people who, despite initially identifying as trans men and having relatively binary transitions, later proclaim themselves to be nonbinary in an attempt to distance themselves from patriarchy; the type of transmasculine people who scorn men and manhood while pursuing transition actively and presenting as male for simplicity. (Note that this is not to say that AFAB nonbinary people who transition do not exist; it is simply an observation on previously-identified trans men that declare themselves not men for clearly political reasons.) This is actually not necessary to circumvent patriarchy - on the contrary, it only reinforces manhood as concrete, oppressive, and cis. This framework, however, is collapsing. As more and more trans men assert ourselves and our manhood, it becomes more difficult to deny alternative ways of being a man. Patriarchy and manhood cannot maintain themselves without adapting to the loss of chromosomal and reproductive markers of manhood, leaving trans masculinity as the only way out. The realization of the shadow is assured; you cannot declare something imaginary forever.
    Lol:

    Vampiric transmasculinity is a joke or theory (you decide) born from discussions with [...] on the subject of these transsexual vampires. The main idea is that a trans vampire's bite would stimulate endocrine function, allowing the vampire to get hormones alongside whatever nutrition blood provides. What is interesting is that, while a bitten cis woman would not experience much abnormal from an estrogen-stimulating bite, a transmasculine vampire's target would likely be feminized. An excess of testosterone in the body is aromatized, a process which transforms it into estrogen. This may result in some form of feminization, like minor breast development. (This is what happens to Big Bob in Fight Club.) In the context of trans vampires, this means the targeted cis man goes through feminization, while the transmasculine vampire benefits from his dose of testosterone. On a broader scale, this is the future of manhood: trans men achieving masculinity as cis men lose it, in an almost vampiric exchange.
    I'm sure this fits in somewhere though I haven't watched this video yet (I just got suggested this video while writing this post):



    I love how everyone's insane. Except when I hate it.

    It annoys a lot of people actually:



    So anyway if any of those things are important to your attraction (interests, body language, vocal mannerisms,) it would be an issue.

    Troi is already there to be a love interest for the male guest stars (as well as to have someone for the straight women in the audience to identify with). Crusher had a few romances with men over the course of the show, but deleting them wouldn't alter her characterization much.
    You can't have a character that is both designed as a love interest for male characters and one that straight women will identify with. Not easily anyway. Sort of like how every male character men like is rarely the character on the show women tend to be most attracted to.

    Very unintuitive and counter productive for a species that somehow has managed to reproduce to the point of there being billions wandering around presently but there you go.

    Wesley Crusher is the remaining member of the main cast [...] It would be realistic in as much as LGBT orientation tends to run in families to some extent?
    Having multiple generations would have gone over really poorly though it's not unheard of. Anecdotally I can think of a bunch of cases I've heard about including people I've talked to online and YouTubers etc. I think having a underage gay character would have gotten a lot of backlash too.

    I'm not sure when the first underage gay character in TV/film popped up. One of the first I can think of was the film But I'm a Cheerleader but that was like right at the end in 1999 but I think it wasn't released in the US until 2000 and the UK till 2021.

    When it was initially rated as NC-17 by the MPAA, Babbit made cuts to allow it to be re-rated as R. When interviewed in the documentary film This Film Is Not Yet Rated, she criticized the MPAA for discriminating against films with homosexual content. While the film has developed a cult following since its release, it was not well received by conservative critics of the time, who compared it unfavorably to the films of John Waters and criticized the colorful production design. The lead actors were praised for their performances, but some of the characters were described as stereotypical.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I'm sure this fits in somewhere though I haven't watched this video yet (I just got suggested this video while writing this post):

    I wouldn't say he's aspirational, but I actually find Patrick Bateman very entertaining, but I have a weird sense of humour. American Psycho is one of my favourite films.

    Yeah see that guy's entire argument (the guy at 2:38 or so,) I'm sure there's an audience for that but it's just alien to me because I don't want a guy like them anyway lol. The rest of what they say also doesn't make much sense. So I'm clearly not the target audience.

    "Even if you alpha a little bit would you want your alpha man to sometimes wear thongs? No to you you're like why would I want that so why would a man want a woman who sometimes acts like a man, who displays male traits. You would disarm and render any man docile and pliable and feeble. When you apply femininity and sexuality that literally disarms us. We can't bypass it. There's something in us that do not allow us to bypass it. But if you come aggressive like masculine we oh come on. What's up? I'm ready. You not going to out masculine me."

    I'm ambivalent about thongs - there are other kinds of feminine underwear that are more attractive but I like sexually submissive guys a lot. I mean I listen to them saying things while I have orgasms.

    There's a lot of weird stuff that turns me on tbh:

    "...she hides my robe and leaves her dresses but it's getting colder and I can't find my robe..."

    Is this robe the only item of clothing you possess?
    im very neat and tidy and put all my clothes away immediately
    It's hard to organically stumble on things like this so I just end up rereading stuff a lot impulsively... I mean it's probably not hard if you know where to look and are proactive/not lazy about it but I am so. I also mean like things that are 'accidentally' like that and not porn. It has a different appeal. Although that thread + comment could also be fake lol.

    YouTube Suggestions: "Can you beat Skyrim with a vibrator in your ass."

    I know I'm a pervert YouTube but this feels uncalled for.

    Perhaps I'll watch it later.

    Another thing - and this is more important - this guy (in the video) doesn't sound very intelligent to me. It's a turn off. I actually think that might be a big part of the problem here for me (besides aesthetics,) like he's a basic [BEEP] and it's above all boring. The insufferable personality type of some intelligent/nerdy guys is also terrible though don't get me wrong. There's a lot of guys out there who I find unattractive but yeah this is one genre.

    Oh god the guy who thinks women are supposed to have periods once every 4 years. I have to hope these people are trolling. But it's true that a lot of guys in various cultures throughout history have had ridiculous ideas about periods so it could easily be true...

    "The lioness is actually the provider and hunter for a pack if it came down to the male the pack would die and starve so this is a really wrong portrayal to use. I think people think lion tough rawr but in reality the male lion is not the one to look up to in a pack."

    Yeah I was thinking that yesterday (and before yesterday on other occasions) about bears lol. When people compare men parenting to bears - I guess because women often do - but it doesn't work at all that way:

    Female bears will even use Humans as a shield. This is how female animals treat predatory males of their own species.

    Mama Bears Use Humans To Keep Their Cubs Safe

    During mating season, humans might stress female bears out, but male bears stress them out more
    Leclerc, a Ph.D. student in biology from the Universite de Sherbrooke in Quebec, was conducting field research as part of a larger study on how bears behave in the presence of humans. The anecdote wasn't from work included in his thesis, but displays the kind of behavior he researched. One surprising finding from that research, published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, shows that female bears with cubs may use humans as a kind of shield to ward off the danger of infanticide.

    As urban areas continue to grow across the planet, many animals are finding creative ways to make the best of losing prime habitat to human infrastructure. While we may see their presence as some kind of break in an imaginary border we've created between our own concepts of nature and civilization, the animals themselves make colder calculations based on survival and relative danger.
    But male bears are often leery of getting too close to human civilizations, which may provide the females an opportunity. Leclerc and his coauthors looked at extreme cases from 2005-2012 in which all of a bear's cubs survived, or all of them were killed, since males intent on guerrilla family-forming will usually wipe out the whole litter if they can.

    GPS data and spot-checking from the ground and helicopters to see whether cubs had survived the mating season showed that the most successful mothers were the ones that hung out more often relatively closer to humans, while those that often avoided human infrastructure were the ones that lost cubs.
    "In a way it's the best of two evils to go close to humans," says Leif Egil Loe, a professor of wildlife biology at the Norwegian University of Life Sciences, who was not involved in this study. In other words, humans may stress bears out, but for mother bears this danger is trumped by the fear of male bears in mating season.

    "The moment that mating season is over and when the chance of her cubs being killed by a male is over, she instantly switches back to avoiding humans. It's very much that she takes the opportunity of this time window when the humans are perceived as less threat than the males that come and victimize her," Loe told Smithsonian in a phone conversation. Loe says the study is great as it shows a new intraspecies mechanism for the concept of wildlife using a human shield - something that can be common where predators are afraid of humans. Loe says other interspecies human shield relationships have been found. Grizzlies also avoid humans in some areas, so moose hang out near us. Other examples have been found between elk, humans and wolves as well as roe deer, humans and lynx. He has studied a similar relationship himself involving spotted hyenas and mountain nyalas in the Bale Mountains National Park in Ethiopia.
    They reproduce with them and then want nothing to do with them. Even trusting Humans who often kill bears more than the alternative during breeding season.

    It's so weird when maternal male Humans compare themselves to male bears... They aren't parents at all. They are just sperm donors lol.

    "I'm protecting my kids"

    They don't do that lol. They eat, sleep, have sex, get chased out of people's gardens by cats, and kill baby bears - sometimes even their own if they're stupid.

    As I say even cats will sometimes chase them off.

    Meanwhile in cats:

    In the wild, felines typically hunt small mammals and birds. With all of their wriggling, kittens can look a lot like prey to male cats--and can easily be mistaken for lunch. If the cat is not the biological father, he may also intentionally kill the kittens or try to drive them away.

    However, this isn't true for every situation. It has been known for dad cats to bond with their kittens, and even help the mom to raise them. Nevertheless, experts advise pet owners to keep male cats away from the mom and newborns, or supervise them at all times until the kittens are less vulnerable.
    'Father of the Year'

    The happy couple made TikTok users emotional, with Rose writing of the clip: "This is the cutest thing ever."

    "Am I....tearing up.....over cats in love????" asked Rachel, while Ghost posted: "Violently sobbing."
    "This made my heart ache!!" wrote Amy Leighton, while Andy commented: "What a supportive little guy." Susan Wardale added: "Proud daddy."

    In a follow-up video titled "Baby Daddy Goals Part 2," Santos and Poppy can be seen snuggling up to their three healthy kittens two orange tabbies and one black cat.

    The poster also told concerned viewers that Santos is being watched at all times, just in case he does become a threat to the kittens. "Still the best dad," she captioned the clip, filmed 11 days later.

    In the comments, Michellecheverr9 dubbed Santos "Father of the Year."

    "Better dad than most humans," agreed bubblegum69691, while Josie Fuentes wrote: "We are invested."

    BestBee commented: "Why am I sad over my cat being a single parent!?"
    Part of the reason people neuter male cats besides to prevent reproduction is to make them less aggressive.

    It's not really fair though... They aren't Human. Kind of like interfering with the prime directive in Star Trek haha. But we constantly do that so whatever. But when it comes to Humans well this behaviour makes sense from women towards men really. It makes sense that they judge them. As much as it's unfair to men.

    Step dad's are particularly risky. Which explains why many women with kids hook up with other women later in life. Or it explains why they want to... In theory. We downplay how aggressive women are and how abusive sapphic relationships can be. Some research suggests higher levels of abuse than heterosexual relationships.

    But it might still be a better option than some guy's in that situation as you have way less options as an older woman and with kids on top of that (its not the same as dating without kids.) But lesbians are often into older women and their options for having kids are low so it kind of works sometimes.

    There are guys who are like this too I think. Usually older and marry a woman with kids, never had their own for whatever reason. Aren't assholes/predators. I feel bad for them. Because there are all the predatory creepy guys lurking around. That's what people focus on.

    Some feminists hate predatory male Humans so much they say they'd rather hang out with bears lol.

    This Human male cares more about male bears than female bears ever will though:

    Human males have to do a lot more because Human babies are born almost entirely useless and also because of the size of babies heads pregancy and child birth for Humans is a lot worse than most (all?) Other mammals. Comparing to other species is often pointless and especially the ones they choose. Obviously Human behaviour and personality is very variable but for the guys who are making that comparison it would make more sense to compare to penguins or something:

    Penguin parenting shares similarities with human parenting in that both involve a strong commitment from both parents to raise their young, with shared responsibilities for incubation, feeding, and protection, often forming monogamous partnerships and actively caring for their chicks, sometimes even adopting orphans, demonstrating a high level of parental involvement and cooperation; much like many human families do
    Penguins are more monogamous than Humans though. But on the bear to penguin spectrum humans seem closer to penguins a lot of the time but Human social networks are more complicated so it's like bear-hymenoptera-penguin.

    Eusociality has evolved among the insects, crustaceans, trematoda and mammals. It is most widespread in the Hymenoptera (ants, bees, and wasps) and in Blattodea (termites). A colony has caste differences: queens and reproductive males take the roles of the sole reproducers, while soldiers and workers work together to create and maintain a living situation favorable for the brood. Queens produce multiple queen pheromones to create and maintain the eusocial state in their colonies; they may also eat eggs laid by other females or exert dominance by fighting. There are two eusocial rodents: the naked mole-rat and the Damaraland mole-rat. Some shrimps, such as Synalpheus regalis, are eusocial. E. O. Wilson and others have claimed that humans have evolved a weak form of eusociality. It has been suggested that the colonial and epiphytic staghorn fern, too, may make use of a primitively eusocial division of labor.
    (I think the bear explanation is self explanatory - some Human males are very predatory and also make useless dads.)

    And obviously there are comparisons you can make to other apes but that's boring and no one seems to like to haha.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    The fear of pregnancy is mostly unfounded within developed countries. Mortality of mothers is less than 1% yet the fear mongering around it is constant.
    Childbirth fear is absolutely what we know is for sure a real reason to not wanting to. It's a horrific torture of pain. And every woman who has given birth knows it. It's humiliating and very disgusting. But everyone gushes as if it was a miracle. Who are you mothers who lie to your daughters about the pain. You all say you forget it. No you don't.
    02% mortality but that number is inflated to include up to one year after birth. If anyone is worried about anything, serious complications is a much higher rate 13% tho even that isn?t clear what that means and if it is inflated.
    It's only men who I see dismissing the complications and difficulties of childbirth and also the workload of raising kids. Even pronatalist women will often not do this because on average women take on most of those responsibilities, most housework even if the dad is in the picture.

    Women who have almost died or experienced the various longterm negative side effects will generally have the opinion that artificial wombs would be a good thing (like Grimes) and/or use surrogates if rich (also like Grimes after her first kid, Paris Hilton and so on.)

    You are not remotely convincing lol.

    Sorry to hear that, that is very sad. It is dangerous but most things usually are, modern life is just easier. Also childbirth is absolutely necessary. It?s like agriculture in its level of significance. If we don?t eat or have children, there is no society or life, only death.
    There isn't really a society in many places for many people when it comes to community. Even the guy in this YouTube video admits to only talking and trying to befriend people who are influential to him and likely to further his power and career etc. Otherwise he has his wife to talk to. He sees no point in friendship and most relationships are transactional for him.

    Many people do not want kids to live in such a world. Growing up in the broken education system being abused by other kids and even teachers in some cases. That's just the beginning.

    Going into this my main question isn't "how to convince her to have kids". As most women I have dated wanted kids. It's how to convince them to go for a proper amount of kids, not just two.
    A proper amount lol. You are lucky if she'll have two honestly.

    My grandma was talking about this at Christmas how she was one of like 11-13 kids I always forget how many and then her mum was too but she had the most kids in her family I think she said with 5 kids and how things are different.

    Her mum died when she was like 11 btw as she was the youngest and having so many kids is a huge strain.

    Well so is the world. You only have kids for yourself now because most people don't care about most people.

    I have also met many US religious women who want to have kids, but they weren?t willing to sacrifice anything, in fact they wanted to marry a very wealthy man to take care of them and their children. They expected someone who could just buy a house, they can quit their job and still have sufficient disposable income to hire cleaning and child care employees. These women weren?t from wealthy families, their parents met young and relatively poor.
    If you say so. I think many were just so poor and worse off than their parents that they don't want to bring children into a cycle of downward mobility. They believe life will be worse for their kids and good luck convincing them otherwise.

    They have to hire people because they no longer have family or friends who can occasionally help and co-parent as would happen in less individualistic cultures. This support structure is very important incentivewise and probably instinctual. It's only in modern WEIRD cultures that people are so removed to not realise why women are requiring that.

    If the 'elites' really care they'll do something about it or perish.

    In a very real sense the birth rate collapsing is a protest against every civilisation it happens in.

    I was hoping you would cover this topic in an episode. I recently realized, while talking to a lot of my female friends, that most of them don?t have a strong aversion to having children, but they are terrified of being pregnant.

    The same applies to my fiancee. She never wanted kids, but after discussing it with her, she agreed to have four if we use surrogacy because she?s absolutely terrified and disgusted by the idea of being pregnant.

    Would you consider doing an episode in the future on why so many women fear pregnancy and how to overcome it?
    I don't think they should overcome it. I think people should devote more effort to building artificial wombs.

    Man, that's quite a question from the male side (no offence, i understand you cannot imagine it to its fullness)... pain, complications, possible bodily changes that would be permanent + disgust from that on subjective personal level and fear of partner finding you disgusting (many do, they just don't tell, but show and it's very painful for female partner), loss of attractiveness. I'd also add extreme aversion from breastfeeding, because, as Simone said,... it's like being a cow, absolutely repulsive.
    on the part of attractiveness: that's very beautiful if you do, not all people are like that. The reaction might be unforeseeable, the same goes for husbands who badly wanted to feel close to their wives but just lost all the appeal. Google how much that's a problem to faithful conservative ones, I'm not speaking about forever urban liberal bros. Hopefully in the pronatalist future it's all be gone.

    On the part of breastfeeding. I'm not American and was never in that sort of american-culture orbit. I grew up in an Eastern European village. Breastfeeding has been always repulsive to me and I know lots of women around when the topic comes up, it's irrespective of any cultural internalization
    they're all blind and deaf to it, even when lots of women talk about it. The dream of 'omg I find my wife's stretchmarks so beautiful!!' is simply... a dream and an extreme outlier. You cannot predict anything in that regard and those guys who ignore all these factors are simply appalling. That's quite a problem of a pronatalist movement scaling, because... well, I could believe that for most of them it's just like that, very mechanistic, almost zero empathy, not their bodies literally
    Sure yeah. You can't lie to most people in this way lol.

    Part of the reason some people fetisihise breastfeeding is because its taboo. Most fetishes are based on taboo, fear and disgust.

    I find this idea that the old middle class men controlled everything amusing. I was raised poor/working class by a grandmother, literally from what is now the southern end of the SMNP, and had a 9 month old at 19 when the stock market crashed in 1929, who ran the meager finances in her house, my grandfather gave her is pay each week. My aunt, her oldest, ran the finances of her household. She had selected and married her husband at 15 in 1944. As she remarked once, "I had all the equality I could handle, I went to work every day, just like my husband".

    Both were my female role models as a boy growing up. Feminism really has been a middle class problem.
    That kind of culture where women control finances exists still in parts of East and South East Asia but not in the West. Consequently guys just get into gambling debt etc especially working class and lower middle class guys who are often more impulsive and less conscientious so people grow up not respecting them.

    This didn't have a big impact on me luckily because we weren't that poor to start with but my dad still had issues with gambling and was having these compulsive spending issues and buying stuff with the plan to sell but failing to do that. I think he's better at this now and is making back some money on ebay but who knows. My parents are seperated. Luckily also my mum had a decent job eh? Could have been a bigger issue. It was enough of an issue that they had to have a conversation about it with me and my brother (which I'm not entirely sure you should do with your kids in hindsight it's a bit like discussing your relationship problems and I was like 10 maybe? And then there were the relationship problems too that I was aware of and couldn't talk about.) He was dealing with trauma too.

    He didn't want kids apparently (though changed his mind after we were born,) that was my mum's idea. Also to get married. I will never make that mistake lol.

    Some women in the West have this issue too of course cause our culture is especially fucked and status driven and hypercompetitive lol so they develop compulsive shopping issues which are more common with women. And also the increasing rate of conditions like ADHD and mass exploitation with gambling places everywhere in poor areas (though my dad did this online anyway,) but yeah.

    I'm sure crypto is going to be another of these things. You can see guys in prison talking about it even in this video. He warns him about it and you can tell hes the first person who ever did:



    Will work out for the few and then tons of less intelligent people will lose money by doing this. Fine if you don't have dependants.

    Over half (51%) of those who have invested in cryptocurrencies have done so because they think it?s fun and thrilling. But we know that the addictive nature of gambling can cause harm to many, and our data also revealed that 43% of respondents agreed that investment products can be addictive. At the same time, Gamcare have reported a rise in the number of people asking for help with problems related to day trading*(Link to the relevant page on Gamcare website (opens in new tab))*leading to a call for a self-exclusion scheme for consumers involved in high-risk trading. Gamcare?s most recent research has found that those who have experienced serious gambling harms are more likely to experience negative impacts when trading*(Link to the relevant page on Gamcare website (opens in new tab)).

    It's possible some consumers are turning to other products in an unregulated trading market to get the same thrill that they get from products which they are banned from or have excluded themselves from in the regulated gambling market. But despite numerous warnings from the FCA around the risks of investing in cryptocurrencies, it is evident a large number of UK adults are willing to take that risk. Our data has shown a link between investing in such products and problem gambling and we will reflect on the findings highlighted in this blog and use them to inform future work in relation to cryptocurrencies.
    I think this is an overlooked aspect of the whole thing.

    I am one of these women that absolutely does not want kids. The first major reason being that, no offence at all to those that find it all wonderful and beautiful, the idea of pregnancy and birth utterly mortifies and disgusts me. It's less about actual pain, because as Simone mentioned that can be mitigated well. The whole thing just massively grosses me out. They showed us a birth video in high school and I was like two seconds late in closing my eyes and the sight of that just grossed and weirded me out like nothing else since. There is no way on this Earth I will ever, for any reason be doing that. I shudder to think it still. And pregnancy and pregnant women just gross me out (sorry, SImone I can't help it) and obviously I never have, and never would, show that in any way if I am around one. I felt that way when my mom was pregnant with my much younger sister. That has been the case for decades and I just don't see how it would ever change. Newborns also kinda gross me out. Not older kids. I want, but can't have a dog because I can't do the poop thing without wanting to puke. I've tried. Changing diapers would be utterly beyond me. I can imagine how I might sound batshit crazy to someone like Simone who loves babies and being pregnant, believe me. But it is what it is.

    But even if all that was not the case, the second major reason being that I have terrible genetics and I feel strongly that knowingly and willingly inflicting them on an innocent child is cruel and evil. The third reason is that I am basically asexual anyway so, there is no way for that pregnancy to happen.I really don't see how I could ever be convinced to have biological kids. It ain't happening. I am not opposed to adopted kids (age four and up), theoretically, but I would have to be fairly certain I would have the ability to protect those kids from the physical 💉🍔 and psychological 🏳*⚧ poisons the monoculture/woke/pHARMa cult will try very hard to inflict on them. Homeschool, avoid any more toxic injections than the ones they (being adopted) were already injected with, feeding them proper food etc. Once I have freed myself from the clutches of that life to a sufficient degree, I wouldn't be opposed to adopted kids necessarily, but I don't feel any need. I love the family I have and I don't want or need any other.

    I agree with the pro-natalist argument in a general sense, for the good of society and all. But it's most definitely not something I can contribute to.
    Lol this is another ironic aspect. You can see this woman had the low status conspiracy conservative low disgust tolerance personality from her comments about vaccines and being trans etc (and her extreme disgust,) and it actually ends up decreasing the birth rate in many cases especially if irreligious and lacking certain cultural norms. Edit: OK you can't see because of the formatting regarding emojis on this forum lol but basically she included a trans flag emoji because she obviously has issues with that.

    This is somewhat by design btw as most pronatalists are eugenicists and don't want certain groups reproducing really. They want to increase the birth rate among certain groups and not others, and some will make that clear and others will be slightly more tactical. This couple are openly elitist too.

    They don't really want single parents, LGBT+ parents (especially gay male couples or trans,) some of them don't want people using surrogacy but those are the more conservative ones. They don't want economically unproductive people reproducing, or people who are unsuccessful in that area they want people with careers who don't want kids to have kids. Some are also terrified of technophobic people who believe their religion is the only right one and see them as the ultimate enemy that they hope AI will save them from after they get rid of the 'urban monoculture' who they believe are protecting them from the hyper religious by converting young people from those groups but they think there's a limit to that. Probably genetically. And that conservative religious people are becoming immune.

    Anyway what fun. I totally don't get why no one is convinced by people who sound like comic book villains and want to buy islands for rich people. And buy countries.



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    Buy and buy until it makes you sick
    Buy for England, buy it all
    Buy online and in the shopping mall
    Sell it on then buy it back
    Buy the [BEEP] you never knew you lacked
    Buy the update to compete
    Buy the things that make your life complete





    Download sex and download God
    Download the funds to meet the cost
    Download a dream home and a wife
    Download the ocean and the sky

    Another day on Earth has passed me by
    But I have lost all faith in what's outside
    The awning of the stars across the sky
    And the wreckage of the night

    Download love and download war
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    Download the things that make you mad
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    Another day on Earth has passed me by
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    The awning of the stars across the sky
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    I'm forced to conclude that pronatalists function much like The Good Place if you've seen that TV show.

    I doubt it's a conspiracy in that way though - it's just you're inside the global culture.

    Maybe some of these guys should widen their search to include women who are a little older, like 27-34 or even 35. These women will have been out in the world and discovered that being a single "career" woman is not as glamorous and fun as they thought. They will also be facing their biological time clocks, which still creates the urge to procreate in some women.

    Although they won't on average be able to have as many kids as women in their early 20's, they could most likely have 3 or more - even several more, and that's a lot more than the nothing-burger many men will get if they focus exclusively on the early-20's women in the woke undergrad-graduate bubble.
    Most of the men are waiting too long and aging themselves out. Keep in mind most women are attracted to men who are about 4 years older than themselves, no more. I know men who waited to their mid 30s then failed horribly. I really do not know anyone in that age range dating women younger than 28.
    Men are told they can have kids at any age without the small print (if you're very rich or capable of exploitative casual sex and creating lots of single mums but most don't fall into either of those groups.)

    A more machivalean approach if you're cute and want a lot of kids is while 20ish to marry a woman in her late 20s to mid 30s especially 30-35 and have kids then in your 40s-50s if you have the money you can try and get a younger woman as by then your kids you had at 20 ish will be mostly grown up and you will statistically already be divorced anyway.

    Of course a more common course of action is just having casual relationships, accumulating wealth and then settling down later with a younger woman (how much younger varies. though tbh.) This ends up wasting some women's time so especially in the case of succesful men they are now being accused of all kinds of things for not committing.

    Like entire groups of women teaming up on them lol. One woman said "I'm not alone anymore" which was such a great way for the article about that incident to end lol. All through it I noticed a pattern of women who initially assumed this guy wanted more but then realised he didn't and either tried to distance themselves or desperately tried to avoid abandonment (as I said in another post one woman seemed to have BPD symptoms.) Their feelings and experiences varied but when hearing other people discuss things were happy to add on their story because realistically they'd been low-key pissed off and uncomfortable for some time about it.

    This group of women accusing the guy of various stuff had finally given her a sense of community. The last woman had serious abandonment issues and in cases like that the tolerance is even lower. That I think along with the woman before and the fact he kept trying to pay these women for therapy and to keep their mouths shut finally was the last straw where as others probably would have just moved on if not for them.

    Not very hard either since most of those guys are very machivalean so have skeletons + borderline or criminal behaviour.

    But yeah most guys aren't ready to have kids in young adulthood either. The insane idea that you're going to find a hot 20 year old woman who wants kids lol. None of the guys do after all at that age.

    Something similar but illegal and messed up is happening with school teachers and their teenage students. Or it's being talked about a lot more in the US. There are lots of stories especially female teachers. Some of them getting pregnant too... Also often women cheating on their husbands who aren't satisfying them instead of the mature thing of getting divorced although at the point you're breaking the law to do it you've sort of lost the plot and were making bad decisions anyway.

    This isn't taken very seriously culturally because "where was she when I was younger (tm)" and that's how you have teenage boys paying child support.

    No really. The US is insane:

    KANSAS, CALIFORNIA CASES

    The most well-known case was of a Kansas boy who, at age 13, impregnated his 17-year-old baby-sitter. Under Kansas law, a child under the age of 15 is legally unable to consent to sex. The Kansas Supreme Court in 1993 ruled that he was liable for child support.
    At any rate lots of guys don't want kids in the first place and this is bizarrely left out of the conversation. Everyone assumes its just women lol no men don't want kids either.

    Back in previous generations (and prob still now ) women would lie about being on the pill or mysteriously get pregnant anyway (I know it sometimes happens especially if you don't use contraception properly which is also a common problem and Whoopie Goldberg had 6 abortions due to contraception nor working for her for whatever reason but yeah.)

    When I turned against the way I was raised and decided to have kids, it was initially based on the idea that not having kids was ultimately losing the game, and I hate losing. Also, as a slightly misanthropic environmental, the idea of leaving the planet exclusively to people who seem to be too stupid to take care of it was incredibly distressing.

    I've tried these arguments on other liberal urban women and it seems to have a little traction - it might work better coming from a man though. I picture a constellation of natalist arguments for everyone - have kids to save the planet, promote your ideology, live forever, make more people like yourself, heal your trauma, repent for your sins, detox, etc etc.
    Yes this works very well on high status psychopaths and narcissists (it's certainly more influential to me for that reason. I'm not high status though but also not a good person lol though ultimately I think more about how fun and excitable young kids are everything is new and fun to them and teaching them stuff, not so much as teenagers lol,) but not so much others necessarily. I remember a guy who said he wanted kids in uni (unlike many men and his peers,) because its winning from an evo-psych perspective to pass on genes. That was my first interaction I suppose with one of that bubble. He was a nerd with a superiority complex too of course. Just the type lol.

    Also kind of metrosexual. I had a crush on him at some point because he was reasonably intelligent and sophisticated and one time I saved him from a spider that freaked him out which is cute. But he was very judgmental and it always rubbed me the wrong way. He also was weirdly trad in some ways and kept insisting I should wear more dresses and seemed miffed that I wanted to pay when we went out to eat or that he was trying to walk close to the road.

    I think he had this idea of himself as this romantic gentleman and he wanted to be in a relationship in general so that he could play the role more than attraction to specific people.

    At the time I didn't realise he and others I met then would be of relevance psychologically as a microcosm of cultural trends I see on a large scale and within elite tech bro cultures.

    This was in the early 2010s btw. Not that that was the beginning of the problem surely as American Psycho was around long before for a reason. I live in the UK of course but similar attitudes may be found. My degree was also in a nerdy tech-adj subject though a bit more creative.

    Great video as always. I've been looking into the claim (from an earlier video) that the TFR of Muslim populations drops off a cliff past a certain threshold of development, and I almost immediately found the counterexample of Emirati women in the United Arab Emirates - one of the most developed countries on earth by HDI.

    Although the TFR of the UAE is well below replacement rate, every study I've been able to read on the topic suggests a skewing of data based on the large expatriate population in the UAE. To illustrate the extent of this phenomenon, a 2018 article from "The Khaleej Times" quotes from a Dubai Health Authority report from 2017, finding that the TFR of Emirati nationals in Dubai was 3.8, while the TFR of non-nationals was 1.3.

    Would love to see a comparative investigation of the few "highly developed" countries on earth with an expanding citizen population - namely Israel and the UAE!
    These weird small elite bubbles are an exception and can't really be replicated. Non representative. The population in these bubbles tends to be a lot richer and/or have higher rates of female PhDs and such. It's the eusocial side of Humanity where the elites reproduce more.

    You will see surrogacy start to skew things too. One woman in Russia has 25 odd kids and is aiming for 100 by surrogate. She had one herself with her body. Her husband went to prison for some white collar crimes I think so that's been put on hold lol. She has an army of toddlers all basically the same age of course being raised by paid help.

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    Honestly thinking about it The Good Place really is a genius piece of television. Trying to avoid spoilers but the surrealness and sense of something being wrong is exactly what it feels like here (on Earth or at least Western culture.)

    I'm sure I'll have more thoughts about this later.

    I think it's the same vibe that led to simulation theory and gnosticism though (with archons keeping you here.) Well The Good Place was probably inspired by Gnosticism since a lot of works (especially recently) have been. The Matrix definitely was.

    I watched that show years ago lol but I just rewarched some clips recently on YouTube so it's been on my mind.
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    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
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    "Looksmaxxing for women"

    Isn't that just instagram? Does it even need a funky name like that when it's just the status quo for most women lol?

    No I think I know what this is about. There's a lot of women floating around like this now it's basically like designed to spite/abuse men.

    When you realise these psychopaths are who the redpill guys are dating lol you realise why they're stuck in a never ending feedback loop.

    But more specifically what these people (men and women,) usually do is to they charge heterosexual people to teach them how to abuse the opposite sex. But they don't tell you that obviously lol. It's self improvement.

    On the surfact it looks like overpriced self help that only a moron or someone very desperate would buy and then it's actually even worse than that most of the time. Somehow.

    I'm not talking about the specific examples in this video I haven't finished watching but in general what I've seen.

    I've been saying this for years: I could be a millionaire in six months. All it takes is not having a conscience.
    Mm I think at the very least most people could make more money than they are online by simply having no standards. Sucks.



    Including Logan or whatever his name is "Something Paul" in that thumbnail is wild lol. But there are a lot of tech bros in that sphere of course.

    Brianna Wu annoys me lol. Please don't bring her up. Everytime I forget about her existance again... I didn't like her back during gamergate either though as she's always been hypocritical and had this same attitude most people just didn't notice because she said she was getting harassed.

    I doubt Elon was trying to do a nazi salute. I think he was just captured in an awkward moment while moving. It's besides the point and a distraction of an argument though as he passively agrees with all kinds of batshit tweets on twitter including antisemitic conspiracy theories:



    That's the rest:

    Okay.

    Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.

    I'm deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest [BEEP] now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country don't exactly like them too much.

    You want truth said to your face, there it is.
    This is an interesting observation to him:



    In reality most people engage in groupthink and he formulates his viewpoints like this:

    1. "do women and "low t men" agree with this?" (if yes then he disagrees.)

    2. "will this make me look cool to nerdy teenage boys?"

    More importantly (and related to point 2,) he seems to pay people to play video games for him.

    I'm probably never going to shut up about the video game thing now because it's hilarious and I want someone to manipulate him into trying to beat my speedrunning highscore for Spyro 120% run (about 3 hours it's pretty far from a world record lol which is about 1 hour and 20 minutes something but not a lot of people have bothered so it's top few hundred,) but then failing. Cause I don't suppose he's played that game much. Maybe not at all. He didn't grow up in the 90s lol and it's mostly a nostalgia game for people who did along with other platformers I would say.

    That was a simpler time.

    This has nothing to do with the rest of this post but:

    I think you saved my life. My dad wanted to give me weed and shrooms when I was 14. But I had seen your videos and I understand I am vulnerable to addiction. I said no because I knew it wouldn't end well. Your videos made me understand addiction and ED. Thank you so much for still posting and talking about important things. It means a lot to me and a lot of other people!
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    Someone posted a link to a twitch livestream with Will Wright (The Sims designer) and in the second half of the stream they start playing The Sims 2 with him still on stream which is cool but he left the stream before they went to the Curious household. I don't think he probably remembers that much of the development etc of the game now because it's been like 2 decades and he also wasn't directly involved with The Sims 2, but would have been curious (I didn't do that on purpose but I've just realised yes lol,) about that. They're one of my favourite Sims families as well.

    I think he was more familiar with Pleasantview (where they went first,) since the storyline of that game is a sequel to The Sims and includes a bunch of Sims from the first game as well. He also talked about that a bunch back when The Sims 2 came out playing demos of the game.

    It's interesting at one point he talked about listening to people describe themselves playing and switching between talking about the Sim as another person and as themself like 'I did this' vs 'they/he/she did that' which is something I noticed before I do in my videos I think. I was thinking about something like that before anyway. I also wonder if he or someone else brought that up before in some interview because I have a vague memory. Maybe Rod Humble since I was reading interviews with him a while ago I dunno. (Since he was working on a new simulation game as well that got scrapped unfortunately. Although I was more interested in paralives personally.)

    But yeah because you're kind of playing God and so often view them as seperate from yourself, but then you slip in and out of unconciously identifying with different Sims it's interesting. And I did notice that since I make videos lol.

    I think it would be really cool to do something like that with devs who worked on the game more. I know one former dev tweeted a bunch of stuff on twitter a while back about development based stuff but then EA told them to stop LOL. Shut up EA. You ruin everything.

    I have a bunch of questions about some stuff. You can find a lot of stuff that was cut from the game in the game object files still and there are some really weird things that I just don't get technically. Like why they did certain things in the way they did and why some things (not related to stuff you will find in regular gameplay,) occur that I'm curious about. But most people who have access to interview devs aren't hardcore fans who have interest or necessarily knowledge about the questions I want answers to lol (plus Will Wright wasn't that involved anyway and most less famous devs wouldn't be interviewed.) Some things have been explained by other players with technical knowledge but still a lot of mysteries.

    I could like find people on social media and ask them but it seems that EA would have issues with some things potentially based on what happened on twitter (that might be because one tweet involved him talking about people doing drugs in the parking lot or something though it's hard to say what part they took issue with LOL.) I wouldn't want to ask them to do some streaming thing because I'm not big enough for that really (I have thousands of subscribers but I feel like you have to be in the millions range and at minimum prob hundreds of thousands maybe to do that. I never really see channels smaller than that do interviews lol) and too much social anxiety for live streaming and that kind of thing. Have on experience with that I just make videos.

    I'm also really interested in the demo versions that were around too but tragically never leaked unlike a lot of older games. Like there are several ps1 Spyro demos/unfinished versions of the game floating around online.
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    I'm going to need people to stop being r*tarded in this way.

    There's no hope for us
    The future doesn't have to be in the hands of a few. You can own a part of the companies of the future and vote in the same way as government elections to determine your future. We can all make the future better 🙋🏻*♂️❤️
    "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Mussolini.

    The left-wing used to have power in the media even while all other institutions of power were controlled by Republicans (Wall street, police, military, etc?)

    Which is why the GOP has been so obsessed with the media and entertainment industry. It was their last takeover left.
    The left still has academia. Also I don't think it would be possible for the right to take over Hollywood (which is mostly liberal - not far left as I'm sure people will complain - just liberal,) because they basically just have no interest in actually working in that industry most of the time (for personality based reasons,) and then it's very hostile to vocally right wing people of course.

    The right favours hard power over soft power I think. Excluding conservatives. (Conservatives care about culture - soft power - more obviously.)

    It's a serious problem for tech to be controlled by conservativism though imo because conservtives are more technophobic.

    Your view seems to be that your perception is reality. You're surrendering your agency.

    On the other hand, Elon's view is that you can reprogram reality by understanding the underlying code

    This is the difference between a main character and an NPC 😉
    What a weird take.
    Just ? yuck.
    Internal locus of control for the win

    The alternative is blaming everybody else for your problems
    Weird out of nowhere non sequitur
    She saying that power is concentrated in the hands of a few people.

    I'm saying that's her perception, but it's not really true

    If you understand the underlying system, even a small tweak can change the whole dynamic of who has power
    That's such an unintelligent take. No, you can't change the whole dynamic of who has power based on a small tweak. If it was that simple, EVERYONE would do it constantly.

    The fact that this "change" doesn't manifest frequently, means that your entire point is false.
    I'm sure it's easy to have an internal locus of control when you have 436 billion dollars and minimal ethics.

    He's right in a sense. For example the alphabet gang (mafia sounds cooler,) can collectively turn people gay and ruin male friendships:



    I think this is what Trent Reznor was singing about:



    What have I become?
    My sweetest friend
    Everyone I know
    Goes away in the end

    You could have it all
    My empire of dirt
    I will let you down
    I will make you hurt


    You know like the empire of dirt is fanfiction apparently. Making fanboys hurt.

    Definitely what he was singing about.

    Lol what was that thing someone commented on that website that belonged to that guy that keeps teaming up with Edward Dutton? His name is Bruce Charlton wonder if I can find it.

    I don't think English is their first language:

    Leftists are the 'creative geniuses' frustrated. I mean, they have different personality traits of his own creative genius, but it lacks innate talent that only geniuses creative have, high and natural creativity . As a result, they use their similar personality traits that emulate that of a creative genius and attempt to subjectively (as they always do) the creativity to something that is 'original'.
    But do not just invent something original, you must have quality.
    In fact, many leftists are evil (pseudo) geniuses, who use their creativity undoubtedly higher than the common population to impose their morality on double meanings and this is regrettable and totally criminal.
    "You see gay subtext you right to jail."





    Reading stuff from that circle is like a goldmine of insane quotes:

    Those inspired by other gods or by Satan are, in contrast, autistic (Mark 9:25) and even left-handed (Matt 25: 41)
    That's a fun power to have, so I'm glad I was given this responsibility. Like when I manifested this of course:

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    Me seeing this thumbnail (parts of this video are kind of graphic in a violent way btw):



    'That's queerbaiting j/k'

    *reads comments*

    the kiss,the outfits,the plot ,omg I think we've found ourselves a winner you guys
    I manifested this with my God mind you know.

    Also I love chainsaws as weapons (this track always reminds me of them lol)



    Not irl of course.
    I'm actively not reading Wednesday/Enid fanfiction from the Wednesday TV show because they're both teenagers but I like the dynamic and said I wanted something similar with adults before. I guess the Sabrina + Jenna Ortega music video is the second best thing. (Not exactly that but in the vague area.)

    I appreciate the attempt universe.

    I feel like it was inspired by Death Becomes Her?

    Yep.

    Wait what?





    Oh cool, but I already headcannoned young Geddy Lee for the librarian role:



    You're right though universe libraries are hot.
    Lol you're in a parasocial relationship with greek goddesses I'm in a parasocial relationship with a librarian forest elf witch character currently using 1970s/1980s Geddy's form we are not the same.
    There's also a whole genre of people especially men who get pissed off by the 'sexualisation of friends' though honestly Wednesday and Enid aren't even friends exactly. Hahaha they're literally roommates.

    I think their dynamic is cute though and I somewhat can identify with Wednesday because of my own avoidance and interest in dark stuff. And being compared to her in an insulting way when I was in school... (She was not cool back then I guess.)

    I also read this:

    The thing is, and this is conjecture based on interviews, it's both.

    For the writers it was accidental subtext. They really wanted to have a love triangle between Wednesday, Xavier, and Tyler. They wanted that to be the romantic focus.

    But Jenna Ortega hated that idea, and she actively worked to sabotage it in her performance.

    On top of that, she and Emma Myers seem to have decided very early (and I mean VERY early on) that they wanted to play up romantic tension between the two roommates. Look at Enid's wink in episode two ("or just stand on the sidelines, glaring"). That's flirty as fuck.

    The actresses were working overtime to make it text.

    It seems like at a certain point at least one of the writers/directors just gave up and decided to run with it, but I don't think everyone in control is on board.

    So at the end of the day, it comes down to whose competing idea you want to consider valid, and what your metric for that is.
    I don't think they were playing that up afaik, but I do remember her saying I think that she wasn't keen on the love triangle thing and thought it didn't work for Wednesday's character.



    I do like the Sherlock Holmes thing as well.
    This is actually just because I have some basic tastes with some stuff but I'll take it.

    Too lazy to dig up other examples of my ramblings. I'm sure at some point it will just be data mining with AI and hyper personalised algorithms instead of coincidence. It already sort of is.

    The roommate thing. I'll just link this which also doesn't explain it if you don't know. I feel like it's a common 'meme' or whatever at this point though:



    I love how this completely out of context clip has become such a cornerstone of online culture.
    I never actually get it
    Lots of gay couples would live together on the down low and be described by historians or ignorant others as roommates.

    I want to make Mel Gibson less gay. I'm not sure if we have that power or if it's only one way? Hopefully the relevant department will work on this:



    Mel Gibson: I'm glad Trump is here. It's like daddy arrived and he's taking his belt off
    How I felt watching that is how I imagine fanboys feel everytime two male characters they like end up in some woman's erotica/porn that they stumble on.

    Except I'm not a fan of his but that was still cringe

    psychopathology of fascists is that they want to be ruled by a daddy figure.

    They're too scared of themselves and of others living free and they can't stand it
    Of course, but it's funny when people just say it in literal terms.

    Speaking of Edward Dutton:

    Geniuses need to have a high intelligence, of course, but they must also be endogenous - inner directed, creative, and intuitive. This is far more important and the defining characteristic of a genius and culture plays an undisputed role in shaping the inner directedness of individuals. Furthermore, they must have traits of psychopathy. They typically will ignore the usual quest for sex and social status - generally being celibate and almost never having children. They will instead dedicate themselves to a self-chosen obsession, approached using first principles, rather than reading other people extensively and applying the results of their research. They are antisocial, and do not care much about the thoughts, feelings, and opinions of others (low agreeableness). They are not conscientious and do not follow social norms and the expectations of others. The highly intelligent often lack common sense - so that popular trope of the absent-minded professor is true. In fact, they resemble idiot savants to a surprising degree.

    Idiot savants have unusual abilities coupled with extreme deficiencies, though their talents are typically useless and they do not make major culture-altering contributions, unlike geniuses as they are defined here. They also need to be cared for by parental figures. It turns out that geniuses typically also need to be protected from the world and are frequently looked after by their families. Jane Austen, Emily Dickinson, Paul Dirac (almost never spoke), Wittgenstein (wouldn't eat with colleagues, socialize, or do administration, taught what he wanted and only the students he liked), Blaise Pascal, Gregor Mendel (the discoverer of genes), Thomas Aquinas, Alan Turing, Kurt Godel, Albert Einstein, Fyodor Dostoevsky (gambling addict and not very competent in life) in other words, half the authors of the books on an educated person's book shelf, were rather helpless and incapable and were looked after by their families, wives, for the very few that had one, and by monasteries that sheltered them. Einstein got lost near his home once and walked into a store and said "Hi. I'm Einstein. Could you help me find my way home please?" Godel depended on his wife and would only eat her cooking. He literally starved to death when she was hospitalized. Paul Erdos slept on the couches of mathematics professors and collaborated on articles with them. A book has been written about him called, The Man Who Loved Only Numbers. Theirs is not the fake creativity of originality as novelty. As Charlton/Dutton point out, Constable and Gainsborough are less original, but are better painters than Lucian Freud and Francis Bacon. (It is tempting to think that their famous last names helped their careers with the last two.)
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I never really paid attention to the specifics of Mel Gibson's various controversies (though I was vaguely aware,) but he seems about as crazy as I would have imagined. This is by far the worst though:

    In 1985, Gibson was named the "Sexiest Man Alive" by People, the first person to be named so.[246][247]
    Nope. Fake news lol.

    Lol I'm doing Abby Shapiro:

    "No. Incorrect."

    That was her take on Harry Styles and men in dresses being attractive. But it's funnier if you hear her say it. That section starts at 13:25:



    "The first thing I want to talk about today is something that kind of went viral on twitter and that is Harry Styles in a dress."

    "It's 2020 anything can happen I guess."


    🤣

    I don't know who I'd go for in that year though. Definitely not him. If I was young then I would definietly have been into some musician because musicians > actors overall. That wasn't the best year for Geddy Lee's hair so I can't just go with him. I wasn't born then so it's harder to answer.

    This is very important.

    Oh right. I guess:





    He has glitter =D

    I'm kind of over it (not the music obviously the music is great,) but I was very into Andrew Eldritch in 2016 or 2015 (one of those years,) so unless I remember someone else.

    I was listening to this on New Years:



    And this (like at midnight hahaha. It was my choice. I felt like being random):



    When did David Sylvian have this hair?



    I've seen some photos from 1985 where he has short hair and it doesn't look as good. So I dunno.

    I was looking to Japan because obviously they were also influenced by glam rock aesthetics and androgyny and it was hard to find stuff from that year. The lead singer of Buck Tick didn't have peak hair back then it seems and Sugizo:

    Years active 1986-present
    (He also prob looked better later.)

    You really let me down dude. The whole planet really because now People's magazine's sexiest man alive from 1985 is Mel Gibson because wikipedia says you didn't really exist before 1986.



    I actually prefer Luna Sea (Sugizo is also in Luna Sea but I think he is most famous for his work in X Japan but I haven't listened to X Japan somehow lol):







    ^ I feel like I remember watching a different music video with this track initially but no idea what now.

    I haven't heard most of their music but they're very good.

    I love how they invented 【vaporwave】too (that's a joke):



    OK nevermind I stand corrected he is not best known for X Japan (cause you know wikipedia is God):

    Yūne Sugihara (Japanese: 杉原有音, Hepburn: Sugihara Yūne), born Yasuhiro Sugihara (杉原 康弘) and better known by his stage name Sugizo, is a Japanese musician, songwriter, composer and record producer. He is best known as the lead guitarist and violinist of the rock band Luna Sea since 1989.
    I swear X Japan is more famous though? I dunno.

    OK I'm really misinformed I thought he joined X Japan ages ago nevermind:

    Sugizo started his solo career in 1997 and has since collaborated with a variety of different artists. He formed the psychedelic jam band Shag in 2002, the rock duo The Flare in 2004, and the electronica duo S.T.K (Sensual Technology Kooks) in 2005. In 2007 he became a member of the international trance/world music act Juno Reactor, and of the Japanese rock supergroup S.K.I.N. Sugizo officially joined the rock band X Japan in 2009, and became a member of the supergroup The Last Rockstars in 2022.
    Like I say I never listened to them they're just very famous and get brought up as an influence by a lot of visual Kei musicians and other Japanese musicians sometimes.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    "You totally embarassed us and all that sort of stuff. Elon you know said I was evil - I'm an evil bastard. And Kimbal of course I've never heard swearing from him in his entire life he's very straight sort of guy but he was swearing at me. Now Elon supports Trump"
    Yeah well he's not trying to impress Hollywood actresses like Amber Heard anymore.

    i love how he emphasized "at the moment" and even went on to say he worries for him romantically. he seems very aware that his son's romantic life is a WRECK.
    I find it amusing that he thinks it's because his son is a nerd, not because he's a huge jerk.
    Many such cases.

    Guys like him always do terribly with women.



    They're both very good in this scene.

    I've never watched this film but I've watched this scene for some reason (synchronicity,) and it just came into my head and actually it's exactly that.

    "But he's dated and had kids with so many women."

    No that's not what I mean. They can't keep one in their life. Because of their terrible personality. It's getting harder for them every generation too.

    I'm 14 minutes into this video so far I can tell this guy doesn't respect women at all because he pointed out that he thinks the worst thing is for your sons to be less succesful than you as a dad. Not daughters he doesn't care about them. Then mentions that he couldn't remember the female actors at some occasion - presumably the one where Elon called him evil. But 'could remember all the men.' Also struggled to remember how many sisters Elon and Kimbal have.

    He still hasn't addressed so far whether his ex-wife does have issues with him. Cause like he implies early on when asked that it's outdated or incorrect or something but so far has mostly talked about Elon. I don't know this guy or what his ex-wife said either so looking now...

    In her memoir, Maye characterized her marriage as abusive and alleged Errol had been violent.[22] She recounts a time during their divorce when she sought refuge at a neighbor's home after Errol showed up with a knife looking for her.[21] After the divorce, Musk repeatedly sued his ex-wife for custody of their children.[21] He was briefly married to a woman named Sue.[21]
    "I have been messed around a lot," she said. "But that was me trying to change someone, trying to make them a nicer person and I know now that that doesn't work."
    I see this [BEEP] so often. Why? How many times do we have to repeat this cycle before collectively it sinks in. Just don't reproduce with them. And a lot of these guys are eugenicists too, so it works out even better.

    Oh right I forgot about how he got his step daughter pregnant twice. I did hear about that at some point I think:

    'I got my 30-year-old girlfriend Jana pregnant and we had a baby, who is now ten months old,' he admitted.
    Referring to his daughter Ali - Jana's half sister - he said: 'I told her about him because I thought she would be supportive and understanding. She said I was insane, mentally ill.
    It's the insane delusion again. Like they just do predatory things and then have no awareness of how women view them.

    In the early 1990s, Errol, then aged 45, married Heide Bezuidenhout, a 25-year old he described as "one of the best looking women I've ever seen in my life".[23] They had two children.[24] Jana Bezuidenhout, who later became his romantic partner, was his stepdaughter from that marriage, four years old at the time Errol became her stepfather.[24][25]
    The Musk patriarch, 76, welcomed the baby girl with Jana, 35, back in 2019 -- but only confirmed the news on Wednesday, bragging to the Sun: "The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce."
    Step dad's are particularly risky. Which explains why many women with kids hook up with other women later in life. Or it explains why they want to... In theory. We downplay how aggressive women are and how abusive sapphic relationships can be. Some research suggests higher levels of abuse than heterosexual relationships.

    But it might still be a better option than some guy's in that situation as you have way less options as an older woman and with kids on top of that (its not the same as dating without kids.) But lesbians are often into older women and their options for having kids are low so it kind of works sometimes.
    As I was motherfucking (literally I guess,) saying.

    I'll just set a timer for the approximate amount of time it's going to take you to find the next one and she's going to come out with stories about how you abused her etc. Unfortunately this does very little to this genre of fuckboy. Though he's going to die at some point.



    None of you n---as is wife material
    None of you n---as was worth all the drama
    None of you n---as was hitting it raw and mad
    I'm not one of yo baby mamas


    This track will truly be timeless.

    Elon Musk and his siblings disliked a man their mother, Maye Musk, was dating so much that they put firecrackers in his cigarettes, Walter Isaacson's new biography of the Tesla CEO says.

    The siblings' actions caused the cigarettes to explode when he lit them, the book said. The man in question was abusive, the book said, which added that he dated Maye Musk after she divorced her first husband, Errol Musk.

    The man she was dating after the divorce wanted her to marry him, but got another woman pregnant shortly after he proposed, the book said. Maye Musk told Isaacson the woman had been a friend who modeled with her.
    What a train wreck lol.


    "People cooking on the road and stalls and everything. This was in London and I realised oh I've stumbled on a sort of ethnic spot or something. I don't know that's not very attractive. if you know what I mean. Wasn't attractive to me anyway. This is crazy.
    ...Does he mean he drove past some market or something?

    "People cooking on the road." lol.

    It's a Global city yeah. Catch up.

    I'd love it if I could go to Karachi and find myself in a nice English spot with roses and everybody's nice but that's not going to happen. It's not quid pro quo.
    I don't know about Pakistan but there is actually a place called Thames Town in Shanghai:

    Thames Town (simplified Chinese: 泰晤士小镇; traditional Chinese: 泰晤士小鎮; pinyin: T?iw?sh? Xiǎozh?n) is a new town in Songjiang District, about 30 kilometres (19 mi) from central Shanghai. Completed in 2006, it is named after the River Thames, which flows through London, United Kingdom. The architecture is themed according to British market town styles. There are cobbled streets, Victorian terraces, corner shops and red telephone boxes.[2][3] High house prices led to few permanent residents moving to the area, causing many of the shops and restaurants to close and the area to become known as a "ghost town".
    Edit: Thinking about it I love that. Because London is insanely expensive (not that this area is just based on London seemingly but yeah.) It's like a surreal comedy.

    Just like London after Russian oligarchs have finished buying everything and not living there for real. xD

    The proportion of owners taking up permanent residence was low,[12] and Business Insider described it as a "virtual ghost town".[13] Nevertheless, in 2012 a similar English-style town was being planned near Beijing.[14] By 2016, the majority of stores and restaurants in Thames Town were empty.[15]

    Despite its emptiness, the town has been used as a location for wedding photography,[16][17] with the church and main square often used as a backdrop.[10]


    Coming from Luton I don't personally find there to be a particuarly strong Pakistani vibe to most of London when I go there. If anything there are way more East Asian people in a lot of areas. Depends where you go though and there are people from everywhere.

    'Tell Him to Get Lost': Musk's Dad Urges Public to Ignore His Son
    "People don't have to listen to what he says," he said in the interview Monday. "I mean he's just a person. The fact that he has money or something, he's a billionaire or something to that effect--I mean, hundreds of thousands of people are tweeting the same things or saying the same things as he is."
    He really is worried his son's going to get killed.

    Apparently Elon has like 20 bodyguards following him around.

    "Elon's very empathatic he cares about his... Uh.... How many daughters do I have?"

    I've reached the part of the video now people were commenting on before:

    I worry about it. Elon's not a smooth looking guy like you you look like one of these guys all women swoon over. Elon's kind of a nerdy sort of guy. He never knows what to say. He's not a smooth guy at all so you know. He's not very smooth when it comes to women and that I mean he tries. I was the same to a large extent.

    He's not a player or whatever you call it. I think women would find him dull you know and not smooth.

    It was really nice for me to see him with a really smart girl for a change. She's a seriously smart woman she's like I've got 200 IQ you know.
    Wtf is this guy on? No you're 100% a fuckboy you weirdo.

    Also Elon tweeted this not long ago:



    I'm sorry you're collectively so disagreeable that women just can't deal with this. Genuinely actually. But it is what it is.



    This song is actually about something very different and very bad but I think the chorus just fits so many things well.

    Also that tweet was actually about Bezos' ex wife lol so I have to:



    xD

    I do think they shouldn't invest in you/leave much earlier. But some of them are golddiggers or obsessed with status or delusional about 'changing guys' and so on.

    Honestly basically everythign he says in this interview is ridiculous. The dumbest thing he said near the end was that English people don't think politicians can do anything wrong. He argued with people claiming Elon was priveledged but then went on to talk about how he was and how he'd visisted various global cities before the age of 10 when a lot of people don't have the opportunity to leave their country or in some cases even their home town. And then talking about how his biggest life lesson was 'most peopel weren't smart' and he had a teacher who kept telling his class that they would make up only 10% of the world and most people wouldn't be what you want (not smart.) And he was British apparently and the weird 'England is superior' vibe the whole way through (because he's ethnically English or possibly because he's trying to flatter the interviewer.)

    Then talks about how Elon bought Tesla and fired the original creator because he wasn't 'buisness like enough' or something and there was some argument over that which he claims to have smoothed over.

    Yes. Elon wasn't one of the original 3. He was a VC investor near enoigh to the start to grudgingly be considered a "founding member" and became chairman pretty early on. He was behind the firing of Martin Eberhard.

    It wasn't necessarily unjustified. Eberhard had good intentions, but wasn't heading in the right direction.

    It should also be noted that Elon didn't immediately replace him, and actually had to be convinced to take on the position.
    If you did more research, you would also know that Elon admires Edison way more than Tesla. In fact he's indifferent about Tesla. His reasoning is that invention is easy, but taking an invention and making it mass-market is the impressive part.

    The only reason the company is named Tesla is because the motors they used were invented by Tesla.

    Elon Musk is very much trying to follow Edison's footsteps. All of this is public knowledge. He even says this in his interviews.

    Edison did way more good for the world than Tesla ever did due to his abilities to mass produce an invented technology. And now Elon is doing the same with EVs. Tesla (the company) didn't invent anything new. Their invention is coming up with a way to mass produce long range EVs. A task no one in the world has done before.

    Looks to me you need to do some more research there, bud.
    How ironic.

    I don't agree. Business people are not in short supply.

    I think of this article constantly:

    https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/0...to-the-office/



    The Gervais Principle is this:

    Sociopaths, in their own best interests, knowingly promote over-performing losers into middle-management, groom under-performing losers into sociopaths, and leave the average bare-minimum-effort losers to fend for themselves.
    MacLeod's Loser layer had me puzzled for a long time, because I was interpreting it in cultural terms: the kind of person you call a "loser." While some may be losers in that sense too, they are primarily losers in the economic sense: those who have, for various reasons, made (or been forced to make) a bad economic bargain. They've given up some potential for long-term economic liberty (as capitalists) for short-term economic stability. Traded freedom for a paycheck in short. They actually produce, but are not compensated in proportion to the value they create (since their compensation is set by Sociopaths operating under conditions of serious moral hazard). They mortgage their lives away, and hope to die before their money runs out. The good news is that Losers have two ways out, which we'll get to later: turning Sociopath or turning into bare-minimum performers. The Losers destined for cluelessness do not have a choice.
    Based on the MacLeod lifecycle, we can also separate the three layers based on the timing of their entry and exit into organizations. The Sociopaths enter and exit organizations at will, at any stage, and do whatever it takes to come out on top. The contribute creativity in early stages of a organization?s life, neurotic leadership in the middle stages, and cold-bloodedness in the later stages, where they drive decisions like mergers, acquisitions and layoffs that others are too scared or too compassionate to drive. They are also the ones capable of equally impersonally exploiting a young idea for growth in the beginning, killing one good idea to concentrate resources on another at maturity, and milking an end-of-life idea through harvest-and-exit market strategies.

    The Losers like to feel good about their lives. They are the happiness seekers, rather than will-to-power players, and enter and exit reactively, in response to the meta-Darwinian trends in the economy. But they have no more loyalty to the firm than the Sociopaths. They do have a loyalty to individual people, and a commitment to finding fulfillment through work when they can, and coasting when they cannot.

    The Clueless are the ones who lack the competence to circulate freely through the economy (unlike Sociopaths and Losers), and build up a perverse sense of loyalty to the firm, even when events make it abundantly clear that the firm is not loyal to them. To sustain themselves, they must be capable of fashioning elaborate delusions based on idealized notions of the firm -- the perfectly pathological entities we mentioned. Unless squeezed out by forces they cannot resist, they hang on as long as possible, long after both Sociopaths and Losers have left (in Douglas Adams' vicious history of our planet, humanity was founded by a spaceship full of the Clueless, sent here by scheming Sociopaths). When cast adrift in the open ocean, they are the ones most likely to be utterly destroyed.
    The future Sociopath must be an under-performer at the bottom. Like the average Loser, he recognizes that the bargain is a really bad one. Unlike the risk-averse loser though, he does not try to make the best of a bad situation by doing enough to get by. He has no intention of just getting by. He very quickly figures out -- through experiments and fast failures -- that the Loser game is not worth becoming good at. He then severely under-performs in order to free up energy to concentrate on maneuvering an upward exit. He knows his under-performance is not sustainable, but he has no intention of becoming a lifetime-Loser employee anyway. He takes the calculated risk that he?ll find a way up before he is fired for incompetence.
    So Ryan floats directly to the top, where he does what is expected of him -- lead a bold strategic gamble by building an online sales channel operation. As with any big strategic move, the operation has its risks, and fails. And here we find that Ryan is still not quite experienced enough as a sociopath. He foolishly goes the Enron route, attempting to cook the books to avoid failure, and is found out and arrested. A true master Sociopath like David Wallace would instead have spotted the impending failure, promoted a Michael to take over (who would obviously be so gratified at being given a new white-elephant title that he would not have seen disaster looming), and have him take the blame for the inevitable failure. Completely legal and efficient.
    You know they do this with women a lot I think. Since they're pretty eager to get into high status positions for gender based reasons.

    The glass cliff is a hypothesized phenomenon in which women are more likely to break the "glass ceiling" (i.e. achieve leadership roles in business and government) during periods of crisis or downturn when the risk of failure is highest.[1][2] Other research has expanded the definition of the glass cliff phenomenon to include racial and ethnic minority groups.[3]
    The term was coined in 2005 by British professors Michelle K. Ryan and Alexander Haslam of University of Exeter, United Kingdom. In a study, Ryan and Haslam examined the performance of FTSE 100 companies before and after the appointment of new board members, and found that companies that appointed women to their boards were likelier than others to have experienced consistently bad performance in the preceding five months.[4] This work eventually developed into the identification of a phenomenon known as the glass cliff - analogous to the concept of a glass ceiling, but implying the inability to perceive the dangers of the cliff's transparent edge rather than the false promise of elevated organizational positions which can be "seen" through a ceiling of glass but which are actually unattainable. Since the term originated, its use has expanded beyond the corporate world to also encompass politics and other domains.
    Evidence of the glass cliff phenomenon has been documented in the field of law. A 2006 study found law students were much likelier to assign a high-risk case to a female lead counsel rather than a male one.[8] A 2010 study found undergraduate students in British political science likelier to select a male politician to run for a safe seat in a by-election, and much likelier to select a female candidate when the seat was described as hard to get.[9] A 2014 analysis of US Fortune 500 leadership found that firms with weak performance were likely to promote women into CEO positions over white men.[10]
    I wonder why. /s

    Haslam and Ryan's initial studies indicate that people believe women are better-suited to lead stressed, unhappy companies because they are felt to be more nurturing, creative, and intuitive.[15] These researchers argue that female leaders are not necessarily expected to improve the situation, but are seen as good people managers who can take the blame for organizational failure.[16]
    Or you should go [BEEP] yourselves.

    All of the comments on this video are positive and like we watched different videos. I guess it's because of his body language and speech mannerisms:

    Dads and sons always have their difficulties. So alike and don"t see it. My dad beat me severely but it was due to a sugar problem. I threw myself in front of others. But I realized finacial, health issues in brother and difficulties with marriage.But I appreciated his work so much and.blessing from God. Now in my later years I find how blessed I am to understand the equations we worked layed out differently but came to the same sum. The other children seemed to be affected harshly about their childhood. I feel so privileded to have come from my partenting. As they say, the apple does not fall from the tree.

    Yeah, go Trump! Maybe dad is availble for a job?😂😂😂❤❤
    Lol OK.

    INCREDIBLY fascinating insight into a man I felt suspicious of, (but NOW, after hearing his father speak of him- my suspicion has dissipated/vanished)!

    I feel so much more relief now....as I was convinced that Elon was on the 'Dark Side' - which I think he WOULD have been, BUT for the fortuitous event/conversation in 2016...

    May the Good Lord in Heaven protect them...
    I've got a bridge to sell you.

    From listening to Elon's Dad it shows what a great family Guy Elon is I never knew until today the Elon is from South Africa I have some South African friends I find them great very honest and successful people.
    I have been Following Elon for a while now as I work for a company which deals with one of his companies Star link and I have found myself agreeing with a lot of what Elon says.
    I have a lot of respect for Elon he comes across as a decent man
    Great listening to this interview hope Elons Dad is okay seems like a great man.
    Makes me realise how much I miss my dad since he died in January 2021 with Covid.
    Seems like an amazing family this is one of his kids:







    ^ I think my favourite moment was the Satanic Panic Olympics pandering while wearing baphomet armour:



    This is why he hates trans people lmfao.

    I don't understand why so many conservatives are falling for this though. I have to know what drugs they're on lol. Are they bots? What is happening?



    I'm guessing she enjoys the attention but who raised her? Well not him actually since he wasn't really around lol.

    I'm also kind of getting why Grimes said this:

    "The best situation here," she says, "is me training the girl and him"--Musk-- "training the boy."
    Because I get the impression he and his dad really don't like girls trans or cis.

    Also just saw this lol:



    The AI industry trusts, implicitly, that AI surveillance, AI military tech, and AI corporate defenses will protect them from any social or violent blowback from making hundreds of millions of young men unemployed globally.

    They think their Skynet will protect them from the Mob.

    If they're right, they're willing for Skynet drones to kill millions to protect AI corporate leaders and employees.

    If they're wrong, they get lynched by the Mob.

    Either way, a bad outcome.

    They really have NOT thought this through.
    I feel like this is ignoring the serious effort that white women are putting into violent crime:

    The share of female arrests is up in part due to trends in arrest rates for violent and drug crimes. In 2019, the women's arrest rate was 63% higher for violent crimes and 317% higher for drug crimes than in 1980.

    The women's prison population is aging; 2022 imprisonment rates were 83% higher than in 2007 for older women (ages 60 to 64) and 62% lower for younger women (ages 20 to 24).

    In 2016, 58% of the women in state and federal prisons were parents to minor children, compared to less than half of the men (47%).

    Racial disparities in female imprisonment rates narrowed from 2000 to 2022. In 2022, the imprisonment rate was 69% lower for Black females, 18% lower for Hispanic females, and 18% higher for White females than in 2000.

    Females released from state prison systems were less likely to recidivate than their male counterparts. By 2017, 63% of females released from 34 state prison systems in 2012 had been rearrested, compared to 72% of males.
    Trying their hardest. Oh right for context the rate of violence among men has been going down over time in most Western countries. I think the female crime rate increase also includes countries like China (I don't know how far the impact is I just think I remember reading about China specifically and know it's a thing in a bunch of Western countries.)

    I said this in a deleted post but when YouTube demonetised small creators because of Logan Paul's dumb decision to film a dead body in Aokigahara forest (and then later remonetised his channel anyway) - there was one shooting at the YT HQ (woman actually. Iranian-Azerbaijani background.)

    The morning before the shooting, police officers found Aghdam sleeping in her car in a Walmart parking lot in Mountain View, 23 miles (37 km) south of YouTube's headquarters.[27][28] The officers did not identify her as a threat, and it is unclear whether they were aware of the concerns of Aghdam's father.[29] Aghdam visited a shooting range the day before the shooting.[28]

    Police believe Aghdam was motivated by perceived discrimination by YouTube towards her channels.[30][31] She complained about the company on her website,[32][33] writing that "Youtube filtered my channels to keep them from getting views!" and that the company had demonetized most of her videos.[34]

    Her father Ismail, of Riverside County, said that his daughter was a "vegan activist and animal lover" who told him that YouTube had been censoring her videos and stopped paying her for her content. "She was angry," he said.[35] According to The Mercury News, her YouTube channel included strange workout video clips, graphic anti-animal abuse videos and vegan cooking tutorials.[35]
    I thought banning tiktok would be bad in that sense for similar reasons and worse than the YT thing by a considerable amount. Would have been a good test. You can extrapolate from this with every source of income/purpose you remove.

    People are very pissed off but only a fraction of them will do anything with enough distractions. The fearmongering is almost wishful thinking because the zombie thing that represents most people and petty drug crimes and whatever is more bleak in a sense.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    Oh my God the cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia are on Abbot's Elementary playing the same characters. I figured the tone of that show was probably too mature for this. I get it though it's Philadelphia. Also that means these shows are in the same universe that's great.

    Edit: Yeah the tone was notably very different lol. Also for some reason Dennis is barely in the episode (as he's avoiding the cameras, the show is a mockumentary.) I guess it was probably too many characters to juggle or something for a 20ish minute episode but it would have been funnier if he was.

    Jacob also almost says 'It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia' but the last word is cut off lol. Yes slow clap. Well done.

    Oh OK apparently there is a reason why he wasn't in most of the episode.

    In last week's Abbott Elementary episode "Volunteers," the highly anticipated introduction of the It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia characters to the Abbott universe, Dennis Reynolds ducked out of the storyline in one of the earliest scenes because he didn’t consent to being filmed -- at least, not by ABC cameras.

    Despite the nervousness of both Abbott Elementary fans and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia stans leading up to the first part of the crosstown comedy crossover, critics and audiences agreed that "Volunteers" was a spectacularly successful merging of two very different Philadelphian sitcoms with two very different tones. Thankfully for both sides of the sitcom collaboration, the Paddy's Pub Gang managed to spend an entire week at an elementary school without committing any heinous crimes (that we know of) and the broadcast TV censors of ABC didn't dull the edge of the Always Sunny assholes one bit.
    I wouldn't say spectacular but considering the limitations (time wise and rating wise,) it wasn't too bad.

    Imagine if they referenced this scene lol (but they couldn't because of the rating + tone):



    Charlie: "You know we're not racist."

    "I'm gonna have a really hard time if we're both cannibals and racists"

    Single greatest line I've ever heard in my life
    "Cannibals and racism Dee? That's not for us. Those are decisions that are best left for the suits at Washington."

    Is pretty great too.

    However, in the days following the crossover launch, Always Sunny fans expressed their outrage that "Volunteers" was missing something gilded and deific -- Glenn Howerton was conspicuously absent from almost every scene, including the talking heads segment in the closing credits that featured all four of his bar mates. Now, Abbott Elementary producers are finally ready to admit why they omitted the Golden God from the episode in a feeble attempt to avoid the Hammer of Thor:

    In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Abbott Elementary executive producer Patrick Schumacker explained that, while some viewers assumed that Howerton played hooky during "Volunteers" because ABC bristling at the "implication" of having Dennis present in a public school, the real reason why Mac, Charlie, Dee and Frank took up most of the screentime allotted to the guest stars was a decidedly mundane scheduling difficulty.
    ...

    "Glenn (Howerton) had a show that he is a series regular on called Sirens,” Schumacker explained of Dennis' in-demand status in real life. "It’s the Netflix show, and it was shooting in New York. He flew in specifically to work on this and had to fly back. We had him for half a day, so we had to build that in."
    Ah damn. Guess that's why then.

    Just as we expected, FX will make up for Dennis' absence during "Volunteers" by centering the second half of the crossover around his skulking exploits. Presumably, Dennis’ time with the film crew will yield some terrifying results -- even if Dennis isn’t on camera, when you’re in his lair, you’re always being filmed.
    Ohh so there's an episode on It's Always Sunny too? I was wondering. I've only watched a couple of seasons (plus tons of other clips on YouTube but in sequence,) of that so I'd have to watch a lot to get to that episode. Could just watch it on it's own if it's disconnected from the rest of the show's story though.
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    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    This is such a weird timeline lol:



    Steven what are you doing?

    Sometimes I forget how British Steven is…
    This is very somehow.

    Actual brutal facts.
    Lol.

    According to who ?
    Tch:



    LiStEn To ThE HaRmOnY CoDeX

    I didn't realize it until now, but I feel like I kind of want Steven Wilson to hit me with a daily series of "gee whiz"-style science facts, accompanied by a drumroll.
    I'd prefer this but it's pretty funny:



    It's funny because he's not that much older than Eminem but he speaks like he's ancient and that's why he can't comprehend Eminem. Steven is a vampire confirmed:



    Also speaking of 'Actual Brutal Facts' aside from Index that track is probably the closest he's ever come to hiphop/rapping lol.

    Maybe that channel that was making the fan videos that I forget the name of can make another one with the drum fact clip though I feel like it would fit in.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
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    Everybody got to deviate
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    Lol I just re-watched this video and realised there's some guy whose comment is in this who thinks that Naruto and Sasuke shipping isn't a thing because he used them to compare to the other ship she's talking about. He thinks people are silent about them. I've not watched Naruto and I don't ship them but even I know that pairing was huge (probably still is because it's one of those popular gateway shows. Though personally I think Death Note is prob better for that.) If you go on AO3 there's 16,867 'sasunaru' fanfics and 59.7k (so like 59-60,000) on fanfiction.net. He's definitely not a millenial to have not noticed.







    But more importantly:



    My favourite Naruto character is David Bowie sama sensei senpai sensei sama senpai sama.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    "Fanfiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by the folk."

    It's occurred to me before when people treat it like a novel thing. Though obviously a lot of it is also romance and porn and a way of trying to fix unpleasant characters and things like that.

    There have been several Spyro fan games that have been shut down where people make new games using elements of the early spyro games like this one. I'm not sure if this is the same one I was looking at before.



    I think this managed to reach completion which is cool (edit: not quite but hasn't been shut down yet,) because they often shut down these prijects with cease and desist notices and because of the boatman which was planned in an earlier version of the first Spyro Ps1 game and you can see it in some old game magazine photos but the demo with that mechanic in never leaked but they've recreated that for this fanfare.

    They use the assets of the original games to do this which is part of the appeal. But of course its copyright and these limitations are part of the problem with capitalism.

    I believe the company Sky attempted to sue the developers of No Man's Sky for using the fucking word Sky in the name of their video game.

    Sean Murray said his studio had endured "years of secret stupid legal nonsense" after the broadcaster Sky said the game's title infringed its trademark.

    "We finally settled with Sky (they own the word sky). We can call our game No Man's Sky,"*he tweeted.

    The game was expected in June, but has been delayed until August.

    Hello Games has not revealed whether it paid Sky to settle the lawsuit.

    "I now know more about trademark law than any sane man would ever want to," tweeted Mr Murray in a follow-up post.
    This infuriates me. How the [BEEP] do you think you can own the English word for THE FUCKING SKY.

    I want to destroy everyone involved in that decision.

    Imagine a world where they automate all your jobs and own every idea.

    EDIT: y?all defending capitalism and corporations in the comments are goofy af
    Quite.

    All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."

    REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

    "Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little--"

    YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

    "So we can believe the big ones?"

    YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

    "They're not the same at all!"

    YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET?Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

    "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point--"

    MY POINT EXACTLY. ---GNU Terry Pratchett
    This made me more interested in Discworld than anyone or anything else ever has.
    I've only read Equal Rites and part of a couple of other books including The Colour of Magic but his writing is great. Really clever humour and also very animistic somehow (all kinds of objects kind of have personalities) It also inspired the writing of Runescape. Which I think is, despite how grindy the game can be, one of the reasons that mmo stuck around when most failed. That and they were one of the first mmos which helps (sometimes.)

    Also...

    I was at a book event for the art of Paul Kidby for Discworld before Xmas (in Edinburgh). Rob was doing his best to contain his anger about it.
    Yes - it has to be extremely tough also when the actions of one person affect the work and livelihoods of hundreds. Tv shows and movies involve SO many people.
    He couldn't speak directly about it, for legal reasons, so could only express his anger.
    He wouldn't have mentioned it, as he was focused on the art book and interesting stories about that, but someone asked a question. So, he answered, and said, (and I'm paraphrasing and grouping several answers together, and others there that night at Pilrig St Paul's might have more to add,) he felt angry every day, so angry every day, but they all tried hard to focus on part 3 of Good Omens to finish the story arc. He's a decent man.
    Yeah, I can imagine.

    That's very much a present-day phenomenon as well. It isn?t just something out of the past.
    My cousin is an undocumented immigrant exactly because an American family brought her over when she was 19, with zero pay for being a live-in nanny - aka, a domestic slave - on the false promise that if she worked for them for free, after a few years they'd pay for her to attend university in the States.
    Yeah that's Human trafficking. In my hometown I've heard some horrific stories and I'm not going to go into one of them which involved a guy who was kept by a psychopathic family and its stuck in my head didnt really become a big news story. But there are also groups going around forcing homeless people to be slaves.

    Andrew Tate has gotten a lot of attention but it gets a lot worse than him obviously.

    If you look though you will find many news stories in the county (Bedfordshire,) as its an ongoing problem. Also horrific stuff happening elsewhere in working class communities.

    Most people are exploited under a capitalist system though this is just the most disgusting and clearly visible end of that.
    It would happen anyway, it's just providing an incentive to the psychopaths.

    Also reading something else:

    Women involved in the gamer/geek sub-culture have reported many times how, thinking that their own 'nerdiness' will make them welcome in these offbeat, online communities, immediately get hit on and subsequently insulted quicker than by a pub-full of Millwall fans when they do not respond sexually. It's that men who were 'geeky' at school believe that they can never become bullies - or indeed become bad.*

    There is an element of bitterness about the memory of all those girls at school who preferred the tough, attractive boys - also a massive driver of incels generally. If geeks manage to make it in the real world, the bodies of women become their "reward", their somewhat sickening "treat" to themselves. We're taught that traditionally masculine men are the enemies of feminism, but as the kind of men who have supported real women and the kind who have supported transvestites in the Toilet Wars shows - I'd bet on a geek being more misogynistic than a jock any day.
    This is a dumb takeaway from this (even ignoring how high school the entire culture is.) Like you'd bet on Steven Crowder and Andrew Tate lol? They come in different flavours equally as unpleasant.

    Then again she's a transphobe lol so you know. These are the kind of people who think ('real') men in the US with guns should go into the women's toilets. Because that will help.

    The 'masculine' guys you team up with can of course be trusted to:

    1. Bully nerds

    2. Bully feminine guys and trans women.

    They'll even team up with feminists to do it lol.

    That doesn't mean they're not going to be controlling and sexist and even predatory on occasion. I mean I wrote this a few days ago lol:



    What I've noticed about transphobic men - I won't call them gender critical because I don't think it's the same ideology necessarily though people use these labels for various beliefs - is basically illustrated by this quote from Graham Linehan and this one right wing meme.



    I don't care for either of these people actually, though I dislike Linehan more.

    Also I think the idea that feminism is about everything is kind of incoherent. Feminism is obviously about women that's the focus. Otherwise you're basically talking about Human rights. Which is fine but then of course some feminists don't give a shit. But anyway besides my current point lol.

    I'm not going to be able to find the meme again now but someone on twitter had created a meme with that 'which way Western man' template like this:

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/which-way-western-man



    Which Way, Western Man?, also misquoted Which Way, White Man?, is a catchphrase originating from the name of a 1978 book by white nationalist author William Gayley Simpson. The catchphrase regained popularity in late 2010s, first used in political image macros and later gaining larger popularity in ironic memes, similar to Reject Modernity, Embrace Tradition.
    and it was basically like 'control by Islamists' on one side and 'control by trans women' on the other. Circulated by white right wing men on twitter who see both groups as outgroup males and see themselves as the worthy rulers of a patriarchy.

    Something that was really fascinating was reading some tweets during a binge session scrolling of 'right wing men freak out about liberal white women' which is always entertaining to me but I came across these tweets where this guy was like 'I don't even see liberal white men as white' I was fascinated. He obviously thinks white liberal women are white, at least the attractive ones LOL.

    I also don't really think of white leftist men as traitors I think of them as enemies idk it's complicated
    I think I don't even consider liberal while men to be white 😂
    This isn't directly related but seems to be tangentially related and reveals a certain amount of psychological projection since white right wing men envy sexist right wing minority men (note that this discussion below happened because a blond white woman had kids with a famous black guy):

    Girls get sexually aroused at doing the wrong thing, the thing that would most betray her father's wishes. I think it's the same impulse as a [BEEP] test. She's testing the male figures in her life to see what her boundaries are, and what behavior you'll accept. If you refuse to set boundaries because of women's lib and the internalized feminism we've all absorbed, you'll apparently see your race go extinct in short order.

    Anyway, we don't have to get to the root of this psychological sickness, just acknowledge that it is inherent in female biology and do what men have done in every successful ethnic group for all of human history: strictly control women's behavior.

    I was chatting with a Pakistani Uber driver recently, and we were talking about western women's whorishness. He said, "oh yes, if our women act like American women, we kill them!" I'm not advocating violence like this, but women need to get some limits placed on their acceptable behavior again.
    What you're proposing is on par with what the Muslims did. It's insane.

    I propose something different.

    Closed self sorted societies. If a woman wants to mate outside of her race or culture, she has to move to their countries; and she cannot return.
    That's giving women license. She is the property of her father, and he must be in solidarity with the clan...She cannot leave the country.
    Women are challenging white men as a whole to get them in check, and if we don't they will erase us from the earth by breeding with [redacted] who are confident enough to control them.
    I view these guys as like a hostile alien species cause of the way they write, and this quote below seems to be the consensus of women who interract with those guys (this in response to some guy claiming that white liberal women from his wife's high school - like people she no longer knew but knew back in high school - coerced her into voting democrat. The original tweet was actaully kind of funny because he worded it like 'my white wife' not his wife his white wife):

    Oh get serious. Your wife voted for who she wanted to vote for. No woman she hasn't seen in years is going to convince her of who to vote for. You married a democrat. We don't give a [BEEP] what you forget. We don't want man and you've made yourselves obsolete.
    If you scaled this up you actually would get a genocide. Which is not good.

    Oh and this falls into this whole thing too (several times he's brought up similar stuff):



    There's another video I was looking for but can't find it on YouTube now where he says this with more emphasis but this is an idea he brought up several times on stage and in interviews several years ago and it's an idea that's widely adopted by right wing men.

    This is all you need to know about these men.
    Jordan Peterson flip flops between denying patriarchy exists and saying it's a good thing and most right wing people won't deny it exists. Their position is that left wing women (and other non-conforming people,) are abberations that destabalise patriarchy and that patiarchy is essential for civilisation. They vary between arguing this is caused by genetic mutations or social forces and usually believe it's a mix of both.

    Feminist women don't seem to have an unconcious wish for 'brutal male domination' they might have an unconcious wish for 'brutal female domination.' (But most people don't identify strongly as feminists or like using the label - he seems to equate left wing women with feminists so I will do so as well.) Perhaps this survey data reflects that at least in online samples or perhaps not (as far right women are into male domination sexually. I don't know why it's lib left vs authoritarian right though but with the gender stuff most of it's kind of around the centre of lib vs authoritarian anyway here):



    ^ and you know this didn't vary that much by gender weirdly. There were some differences but it was actually very similar.

    I would actually say the 'unconcious desire for male submission' is more unconcious but prevalant than the one for female domination though. It's constantly denied/ignored/explained away even by people consuming certain material.

    Something that tickles me about this diagram in a dark way is that the right are so obsessed with race that even though for women the male vs female domination thing is almost the kink of choice for the far right vs far left raceplay still beats it on the far right side lmfao.

    I think this is very important (obviously lol) but nobody's researching this...

    Also technically none of these guys are really masculine. Real masculine guys in the sense that a lot of people are looking for don't really exist it's mythologised and people have complained for at least well over a hundred years (and that's not the problem.) But if they did, they'd probably just be living in the forest alone not on social media. Obviously.



    It's the amplifiation of all the worst parts of Humanity (and your own personal nightmare - like whatever bothers you personally,) in a borg like fashion that's the interesting part of the modern internet. It wasn't like that to start with.

    Everybody is someone else's freak
    Every cure is someone else's disease
    Everybody is someone else's freak
    Every cure is someone else's disease




    The people who are born and raised on this island are quite cynical and have a 'gothic' way of viewing the world.

    It's like the weather is somehow burnt into people's bones and sewn into the gaps in their thinking. Maybe even when they move away...

    Anyway in most ways the species is actually becoming less violent.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Also I think the idea that feminism is about everything is kind of incoherent. Feminism is obviously about women that's the focus. Otherwise you're basically talking about Human rights. Which is fine but then of course some feminists don't give a shit. But anyway besides my current point lol.
    I was thinking about this guy because he often describes himself as a Human rights activist although obviously he's also an LGBT+ activist:



    And towards the end of this video he basically says:

    "We pay taxes so we should be able to [live/have sex]"

    It's so bleak.



    "Please at least leave us alone in our living rooms."

    "I'm a Human being god damn it my life has value."

    The sample is from a 1970s black comedy film btw lol:



    I disagree that anger does anything though really. At this point it's a way to generate more revenue. On an individual level it's mostly just cathartic.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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