Honestly I've brought her up a couple of times recently but I actually do think Anastacia is very underrated based on vocal talent. She was visible for a brief period in the early 2000s but she should really be as famous as Adele or Britney.
That's weird. America sleep on lots of people though lol.It?s crazy how famous she is in Europe but she could walk down any street in America and nobody would know who she is
A lot of it isn't really my favourite genre/style of music but her voice is still really good. I think this was her most popular song back then? And yeah I don't really like the style but her voice is really great:
I also didn't realise this until I started reading her wikipedia page but she's also 5'2" (same height as me,) so that's even more unusual than she has that voice. And that's unfair cause I think she'd made a good rock singer lol.
(this meme works even better because Yugi has that weird voice thing going on where he usually has a high pitched voice.)
Evidently I sound like a poor man's version of Halsey (if you listen from a distance. I'm not as talented as her obviously lol. I only say this because my brother once mistook Halsey for me when I was listening to her.)
I actually don't manage high notes well either lol cause I don't naturally sing well and I haven't had any training. My friend said my singing wasn't bad but pointed out that I don't have enough breath support so that's why I was struggling with the higher notes in this song when I was trying to sing this:
This post is all about meeeeeee again now =P
She has some good songs too actually but I haven't really listened to her much for a decade probably. A lot of the ones I've listened to are quite sad or bittersweet sounding. She reminds me of Tori Amos in that sense (also because of the piano.)
Lyrically, "Samson" references the biblical episode of Samson and Delilah, found in Judges 16.[5][6] Samson was granted extraordinary physical strength by God, though his strength was held in his hair, without which he was powerless. He fell in love with Delilah, who, because of his lust for women, discovered his vulnerability, and used it against him.[6][7]He then falls in love with Delilah in the valley of Sorek.[18][20][21][23] The Philistines approach Delilah and induce her with 1,100 silver coins to find the secret of Samson's strength so that they can capture their enemy, but Samson refuses to reveal the secret and teases her, telling her that he will lose his strength if he is bound with fresh bowstrings.[18][21] She does so while he sleeps, but when he wakes up he snaps the strings.[18][21] She persists, and he tells her that he can be bound with new ropes. She ties him up with new ropes while he sleeps, and he snaps them, too.[18][21] She asks again, and he says that he can be bound if his locks are woven into a weaver's loom.[18][21] She weaves them into a loom, but he simply destroys the entire loom and carries it off when he wakes.[18][21]
Delilah, however, persists and Samson finally capitulates and tells Delilah that God supplies his power because of his consecration to God as a Nazirite, symbolized by the fact that a razor has never touched his head, and that if his hair is cut off he will lose his strength.[24][25][18][23] Delilah then woos him to sleep "in her lap" and calls for a servant to cut his hair.[18] Samson loses his strength and he is captured by the Philistines, who blind him by gouging out his eyes.[18] They then take him to Gaza, imprison him, and put him to work turning a large millstone and grinding grain.[21]This is racist. (Lol no I just like saying that because I'm dumb.)Halsey is certainly a soprano given her small vocal weight, youthful, feminine timbre, and weak lower register.
But no hilarious first world problems. 'Someone compared my voice to Halsey's and the internet is saying her voice sounds youthful and small.'
Actually I think her voice is hard for people to identify. Like for example:
Chatgpt (or whatever that bing search AI is called,) thinks mezzo-soprano but that she sings in a babyish way:People have debated for years what her voice type is, some labeling her as a light lyric soprano that fakes having a deeper voice,
Tbf that AI can't be trusted too much especially in 'creative mode.' It said some really hilarious but wrong things about The Sims 2.However, I can tell you that Halsey is a pop singer with a 2-octave range in the mezzo-soprano category1. Her vocal range is roughly two octaves long and a perfect fifth wide, stretching from D3 ? E5 ? A523. Her voice has been described as raspy2 and she sings with a high larynx in her midrange, creating a bright and "babyish" sound4.
This website seemed to argue that she's an alto somehow? (Which is actually the lowest female voice so what.)
She gets it:Halsey's vocal range is a topic of debate among fans and music critics. Some say she is an alto, while others argue she is a soprano. There is no definitive answer, but we can take a closer look at the evidence to try to make a determination. Halsey?s voice is often described as "smoky" or "husky." This is typically a quality found in lower-pitched voices. Additionally, her vocal range spans from about F3 to C5. This is also indicative of an alto range. However, it?s worth noting that Halsey?s voice has a lot of versatility. She is able to sing both lower- and higher-pitched notes with relative ease. This could be seen as evidence that she is actually a soprano. In the end, it?s hard to say definitively whether Halsey is an alto or a soprano. However, based on the evidence, it seems more likely that she is an alto.
(that's also why I like demonic sounding edited vocals, and screaming vocals but I also like the combination of weirdly high pitched and low pitched vocals in music cause it creates an androgynous creepy sort of effect. I also just like androgynous singing voices in general - high pitched male vocalists/low pitched female vocalists.)Les has cited being transgender as contributing to her exploration of different singing styles, including pitched-up "nightcore style" vocals, which she once used almost exclusively in her music due to her experiences with voice dysphoria.[1] However, in a 2021 Pitchfork interview, she revealed she had begun taking vocal lessons and recording new 100 gecs music with unpitched vocals, saying, "As I've been exploring my voice more, I'm like, 'I can do this.'"[12]
Really great example (so I guess I'd actually just like a voice with insane range lol):
Sometimes sounds like a goblin. I wonder if that's why Tumblr seems obsessed with goblins lol. With the whole 'goblincore' subculture (I mean the aesthetic motivation is mostly similar to late gothic subcultures where you romanticise or identify with monsters, dark stuff, ugly stuff etc but also this. It seems to appeal to LGBT+ people a lot but that might just be cause it started on tumblr lol.) And then someone asked Strange Aeons if she and her girlfriend were a butch/femme couple (because her girlfriend is very androgynous sometimes she gets comments like 'why are you dating someone who looks like a guy' etc,) and she responded something like 'we don't really use that language we just see ourselves as two goblins' or something lol. (I don't remember exactly but it was something like that.)
Also I feel like Halsey hates being labelled as a pop artist but got pigeon holed into it and forced into it because of her vocal range. Like it mentions that on wikipedia that she thinks she's only classified a pop artist because she's female which is part of it but I'd also say it's because of her vocal style (which does correlate with sex.) But I also think over time she became afraid to take risks. She brought that up in this interview:
I can see there's a huge debate about whether she should become a rock singer on her music video for Nightmare but tbf it seems like a lot of people got distracted and started arguing over whether her music or the song is rock - or even pop rock - which of course it isn't but that wasn't really the point. But I think they are hugboxing either way because they're fans.
What they mean is her energy. And it comes out - imo - because she's admitted to listening to rock music and being a fan of Nine Inch Nails etc, but she makes the music that suits her voice etc, and these things conflict.Halsey needs to do more rock, her voice is literally meant for it
Another example (this is actually a better example of this than the previous one I went with before editing this 'New Americana' lol not sure why I didn't go with this. Also a better example of why people are confused maybe):
Can she make rock music yeah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKXixnuA5FM
Easier than Lying is a better example than the above link (The Lighthouse song,) which is almost post-rock in parts. I just found it amusingly archetypal/symbolic? Or something because of the siren + Satanic aspect of the lyrics considering what I mentioned later in the post. Like the focus is more violent instead of just the beauty/seduction.
From a tender age I was cursed with rage
Came swinging like a fist inside a batting cage
I went swimming with the devil at the bottom of a lake
And he left me there by my lonesome
He was tall and mean with venom eyes so green
Wanted reconciliation, but my tongue was in my teeth
I couldn't find the floor, so I was kickin' with my feet
But they weren't there, they were stolen
There is a lighthouse in the
Middle of the deep end
I'm still standing on the shore line
And nobody hears me scream
And I'll lure you like a landslide
And I'll show you lovely things
If you rescue me but they'll make believe
The lighthouse by the sea
Well, the waves were tall and they were crashing down
He's laying in the water begging God to let him drown
So I showed him all my teeth and then I laughed out loud
'Cause I never wanted saving, I just wanted to be found
Well, that should teach a man to mess with me
He was never seen again
And I'm still wandering the beach
And I'm glad I met the devil
'Cause he showed me I was weak
And a little piece of him is in a little piece of me
But rock fans usually prefer voices like this most of the time:
Courtney Love is really hated though lol, but musically speaking.
I guess Ann Wilson is also a lyric soprano and makes it work though.
Her voice has obviously gotten lower with age cause that happens to everyone (so she doesn't go as high as he does in the original, It's falsetto but it's still hard to do what he did well in a healthy way, and he didn't based on what I've read lol this is still good though):
I'm not inclined to include all the symphonic metal band female vocalists (Sharon den Adel, Tarja Turunen etc both sopranos I think,) their vocals are very powerful because they're operatic, but they transform the genre to the point where it becomes it's own subgenre because of their operatic vocals. There are also - in a similar vein - a few hyper feminine ethereal wave/dream pop female musicians such as this sort of thing:
While they're talented vocally (I'm not trying to insult them. I think this sort of thing often gets read that way,) what they're doing is also different they're like ethereal sirens/angels (not just vocally but like in some music videos that's the theme lol,) not Joan Jett, and ultimately gets classified in a different way as a result. Male goth rock musicians sing in a much lower voice typically (that's sort of an expectation of the genre, if you're a guy with a higher voice it would be harder to get by in the genre I imagine.) Here's an exception to the general rule where you have a female singer in a goth/darkwave band with a low voice (Shannon Funchess from Light Asylum):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiKCRUpbqA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Funchess
Hahaha wikipedia stop being trash. I remember when they used to do this for the Crywank band bio but then finally they had enough mainstream sources that they were deemed relevant enough lol (the entire band that is not just individual members.) This hasn't just been an issue on wikipedia lol! They posted something similar on twitter:The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. Please help to demonstrate the notability of the topic by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention. If notability cannot be shown, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted.
But yeah I think Light Asylum meet the standards but most individual musicians won't be famous enough to get their own bio. But yeah they don't have infinite server space. They don't seem to often merge them though. There are a lot of band pages with very little info about individual members and I get curious. Look if various streamers and YouTubers get wikipedia articles I figure she can probably have one lol. (I didn't write that article btw lol. I edit pages sometimes but never bother writing entire pages.)This year I?ve had about five music journalists reach out wanting to cover Crywank only to reach out shortly afterwards to apologise because their editor told them no 👻
Lol trying to argue why she should be included. 'Well I heard about the band in a YouTube video by ofherbsandlalters which specifically focussed on her vocals at one point in the video' :
Oh wait no I didn't hear about Light Asylum in that video I forgot. There was another song I stumbled on a bit before this video lol because it was part of the soundtrack for the TV show Russian Doll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4qc7y-o60
But the ofherbsandalters video was my introduction to that particular song I linked, which I like a lot more than Shallow Tears (though I liked Shallow Tears enough to look up the band.) I did find her vocal range very interesting because her singing voice sounded male or close to basically.
Apparently all genderfluid/genderqueer trans masc people with an interest in goth culture, who live in the UK and have at some point dyed their hair, have the same weird vocal fixations (sample size: 2 lol.) Although I also like other types of screaming vocals and they mention they prefer fry screaming. Hall of Mirrors (The Distillers,) is such a good song though and I do really like Brody Dalle. I don't like Oasis or Liam Gallagher in general, but I said this before. But yeah they're using AI for that now Grimes has an AI of her voice lol. She's splitting royalties with people who use it 50/50 I think. But it's not the same thing obviously as having a voice that is unique to yourself that you like and that expresses what you want.
and ofherbsandalters once had a photo of himself included in a contrapoints video Envy (her 3rd most viewed video,) for literally 2 seconds where she mentioned goths while talking about Nietzsche as you do (timestamp,) Contrapoints is also a long time patreon supporter of the YouTuber Strange Aeons who included clips of two-three of ofherbsandalters videos in her video on mall goths here. And Contrapoints has a very detailed and long wikipedia article written about her. Therefore by the transitive property (or not I don't 100% know what that means,) of YouTubers who get wikipedia articles this must be allowed. Contrapoints knows about a YouTuber who has heard of this musician.
"Oh but The Guardian hasn't written about any of these people (except Contrapoints)'
Boooo. I'm like an anti-hipster 'you will all become fans/read about this person.'
Halsey's work with Nine Inch Nails was interesting though (I dunno what she's doing now.) other than that I mostly liked her first album and she's a good lyricist which I mentioned before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so8V5dAli-Q
And all the kids cried out, "Please stop, you're scaring me"
I can't help this awful energy
God damn right, you should be scared of me
Who is in control?
I'm well acquainted with villains that live in my head
They beg me to write them so they'll never die when I'm dead
And I've grown familiar with villains that live in my head
They beg me to write them so I'll never die when I'm dead
I'm bigger than my body
I'm colder than this home
I'm meaner than my demons
I'm bigger than these bones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRHNi3QfFlE
But yeah I don't keep up with newer stuff as much. I like Nine Inch Nails though so that caught my attention.
(going back to Anastacia being underrated.) I think Anastacia had some health problems though and she was in her 30s by the time she got some mainstream success kinda like Maria Brink I think. (I mean she was working in music before then, but she didn't get significant fame until her 30s.)
Rude. Lol yeah just start singing.Howorth refused to audition her because she was a woman. But he quickly changed his mind and apologized to her after hearing her sing
She's one of my favourite vocalists lol.
And honestly a lot of the music doesn't interest me that much. It's fine but especially now they've moved into a kind of electronic era I probably wouldn't listen to any of it if not for her so they can essentially put anything and it will be at least OK on that basis. I don't mind metalcore but it's not my favourite metal subgenre. Eluveitie is the opposite where the music is more interesting than the vocals to me.
This is a good example where her vocals are the selling point imo:
This is better musically though:
Newer music is less melodic I guess?
*drags out Kurt Cobain's corpse*
^ has a few redeeming qualities. They've included some piano.
I'm not sort of thinking 'wow these guitars are amazing' Like:
Sometimes the thought process seems like 'we will make very loud and heavy music the louder and heavier the better.' Lol. This is probably a bigger problem for US bands? I don't hate the US lol. 'Many of my favourite bands/musicians are from the US.'
I like to ask myself 'would I listen to this as an instrumental?' And then I like to deafen myself while writing this post by having the volume on my headphones up to loud as I search for the highest quality upload of this track.
Yeah cause I discovered that through this I think lol (either that or another guitar cover by someone else lol but both around the same time)
Gone way off topic again lol.