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    Brains are weird.
    Tell me about it. I've been thinking about how crazy it is that a lump of matter can see, taste, smell, touch and hear, and do so simultaneously. Also, when we're dreaming the brain creates it's own reality with no sense data coming in. I remember when I was having withdrawals and couldn't sleep for a week. I had this experience where I would close my eyes and "see" random images like there was a phone screen behind my eyes. I saw people dancing. A lot of very detailed faces. It was crazy. I also played a song in my head. It only lasted like an hour or so. I think it was because I was so sleep deprived. My brain was dreaming while I was awake or something.

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    I don't dislike it conceptually (although that might just be because I have a loose definition of the concept,) but I think the legal institution of marriage is weird because it involves the government and acts coercively to try and encourage certain forms of behaviour by giving benefits to married couples that others - including other couples - don't get. Also pushes monogamy in most cultures. Divorce seems messy in a bunch of countries which leads to more social discontent. The part (in Christian/Western marriages anyway,) where you're supposed to stay with one person for your entire life is also unrealistic. And various forms of marriage have also been sexist.

    I also don't really get why people who favour monogamous relationships or 2 parent households place so much importance on it because my aunt has been with her partner for like... Since at least 2001 but I don't remember when they got together. They had their first kid in 2002. As far as I know they're still together and they never got married and they have two kids.

    I don't think people who don't want to stay with people should be coerced because it just leads to unhappy relationships and marriages. I always feel uncomfortable talking about it in detail but my parent's marriage and my family dynamic were less than ideal and we couldn't and didn't talk about it. They also got married when they were like 21 which seems crazy to me although I also went to the wedding of a couple at uni who got married when they were like 21 and 19 or something like that. Then my parents stayed together and didn't get divorced (eventually when I was an adult my dad moved out but they're still not divorced.) They had numerous communication issues and my dad had said that he never wanted to get married or have kids before we were born. I think a lot of millenials have messy families in one way or another so I don't view it as necessarily ideal.
    I was in a 14 year relationship and neither of us wanted to get married. We were together longer than a lot of married couples. When we broke up my dad made the comment that we weren't married, like that somehow diminishes the seriousness of the relationship. The idea that you need to have a traditional wedding for your relationship to be valid is silly to me. I have nothing against lifelong relationships, I just don't see the need for it to be called a marriage. Just be a couple. I also don't like the ceremonial aspect - wedding rings, dressing up, etc. It's just weird to me. lol.
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    Tell me about it. I've been thinking about how crazy it is that a lump of matter can see, taste, smell, touch and hear, and do so simultaneously. Also, when we're dreaming the brain creates it's own reality with no sense data coming in. I remember when I was having withdrawals and couldn't sleep for a week. I had this experience where I would close my eyes and "see" random images like there was a phone screen behind my eyes. I saw people dancing. A lot of very detailed faces. It was crazy. I also played a song in my head. It only lasted like an hour or so. I think it was because I was so sleep deprived. My brain was dreaming while I was awake or something.
    I haven't had many hallucination type experiences but I did once see a bunch of cables I think when I was half asleep/half awake which was kind of weird. Also had sleep paralysis once but I didn't see anything I just had the sensation of some sort of alien/demonic kind of being standing over me telling me they wanted to kill me or something like that which was scary. Kind of glad I couldn't see lol that probably would have taken longer to get over from the stories I've heard.

    I was in a 14 year relationship and neither of us wanted to get married. We were together longer than a lot of married couples. When we broke up my dad made the comment that we weren't married, like that somehow diminishes the seriousness of the relationship. The idea that you need to have a traditional wedding for your relationship to be valid is silly to me. I have nothing against lifelong relationships, I just don't see the need for it to be called a marriage. Just be a couple. I also don't like the ceremonial aspect - wedding rings, dressing up, etc. It's just weird to me. lol.
    Yeah it's weird to me how relationships are devalued that way. I feel like it would be fun to come up with some kind of creative thing to do with your partner though, but the reality is most weddings are fairly formulaic and similar to one another and the part where you have a bunch of guests staring at you etc seems uncomfortable as well. In that sense I'm sure getting engaged is more meaningful than the actual wedding imo. Also people spend insane amounts of money on weddings often and I think it would be more fun to travel or something if you have that kind of money.
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    Their name is really dumb it should be 'let women who agree with me speak' given women are more likely to support trans rights than men this is incredibly presumptuous of them.

    I say them but it does seem to be a whole lot of just Posie all the time.

    "Let women speak!"

    Posie you speak every time. Get off the stage! women not woman.

    It doesn't help that the most vocal women are all upper middle class/clearly rich white English women.

    I don't think most women who agree with her need her to do this either because I remember last year there was a woman who stormed into some drag queen story hour event and just started yelling at people. She recorded herself too but I can't find a video now on google because too much stuff is happening all the time.

    Also yeah lol he mentions the conspiracy theorists. There was that woman who was at one of her events at Speaker's corner who just started ranting about vaccines lol. Man I really have to start bookmarking shit. I can't find a video either it was insane lol.

    Of course I can find this one:





    Oh no it wasn't the right group to make generalisations about! Haha.







    I find the idea of her coming to this town very amusing but she never will because she'd be too scared. I think she'd get to the town centre, immediately see a teenage boy who is South Asian (37% of my town are South Asian,) and just lose her [BEEP] because she thought he looked at her weirdly. Then she'll collapse on the floor when she overhears someone speaking Polish.

    No it's very entertaining to me. I'd bring some popcorn.



    This has nothing to do with this post lol it's just a good song:



    A few years ago Lauren Southern did come here with Allah is gay leaflets. Maybe Posie could try and one up her with Allah is trans leaflets oh no wait...

    She might find she agrees with some people. Katie Hopkins did:

    Far-right commentator Katie Hopkins met with activists Shakeel Afsar and Amir Ahmed on Eid to discuss why Muslim parents in Birmingham are protesting against pro-LGBT lessons in primary schools.
    Public stunned as Katie Hopkins joins forces with leaders of Birmingham anti-LGBT school protests
    Got to love LGBT (mostly trans,) people bringing people together.

    (Actually some of her leaflets did say Allah is trans apparently and intersex lol. Damn it Lauren you ruined my joke.)

    Of course afaik Lauren is still legally male in Canada.

    I don't think fascists could ever hope to piss off most of their enemies as much as the LGBT+ community can. That's very funny when you think about it. And important. Because the Human brain defaults to binarism and likes to divide everything into two groups. That's also why some delusional people seem to want to lump all minority groups together in some universal conspiracy where everyone automatically agrees with everyone else. But it's always more complicated than that.



    LOL:



    I just think about this now everytime she comes up. Going to have to make a playlist soon:



    Top 10 anime villain monologues.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I haven't had many hallucination type experiences but I did once see a bunch of cables I think when I was half asleep/half awake which was kind of weird. Also had sleep paralysis once but I didn't see anything I just had the sensation of some sort of alien/demonic kind of being standing over me telling me they wanted to kill me or something like that which was scary. Kind of glad I couldn't see lol that probably would have taken longer to get over from the stories I've heard.
    You saw the matrix cables. =P

    I've luckily never had sleep paralysis. I've also heard stories and nope. I don't want to ever experience that.

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    9 hours of sleep.....in the last two days.

    Ain't anxiety fun?!

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    Their name is really dumb it should be 'let women who agree with me speak' given women are more likely to support trans rights than men this is incredibly presumptuous of them.

    I say them but it does seem to be a whole lot of just Posie all the time.

    "Let women speak!"

    Posie you speak every time. Get off the stage! women not woman.

    It doesn't help that the most vocal women are all upper middle class/clearly rich white English women.

    I don't think most women who agree with her need her to do this either because I remember last year there was a woman who stormed into some drag queen story hour event and just started yelling at people. She recorded herself too but I can't find a video now on google because too much stuff is happening all the time.
    Lol I'm listening to more of this video now and it's even worse than that. Despite her events being called 'let women speak' she says all men can also show up to talk. She's cool with fascists coming and talking too. So it's not about women at all. Fascist men can speak but clearly no one who disagrees with her or trans people are allowed to speak despite the topic being about trans people. Nice! What an absolute cunt.

    Other things mentioned so far in video. This article:

    CPAC chief boasts US abortion ban could be part of solution to 'great replacement'
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2083725.html

    American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp on Thursday told a gathering of right-wing activists that banning abortion and forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term would be a good way to boost birth rates of "our own people" and stave off the "great replacement" many Republicans and white supremacists fear will result from increased levels of immigration to the United States.
    Absolutely vile creatures. I'm not going to say US women should stop having kids, but I think at least anyone ambivalent should avoid it under these circumstances out of self respect. Or leave the country if possible.

    I can't imagine being as fucking stupid as a white nationalist though. 'I want more white women to have kids so I'm going to message them creepy things on twitter about their eggs and attempt to control their reproductive options as though I'm a rapist and then make it seem that if they reproduce with white men I'm winning.'

    Not only is it disgusting it's also just a really bad reproductive strategy and so is annoying for that reason too. Are you thick?

    More U.S. Women Are Avoiding Unwanted or Mistimed Pregnancies
    Births and pregnancies in the United States have been on a long-term decline. A new data analysis provides one reason: It’s becoming less common for women to get pregnant when they don’t want to be.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/03/u...reference.html

    Looks like your tactic isn't working.

    A big part of the reason for the decline, at least so far, is the “pretty significant increase in women using long-acting contraceptive methods like the (intrauterine device) in recent periods,” Finer said. These methods, such as the levonorgestrel and copper IUD and birth control implants, are associated with failure rates of less than 1%, while the failure rates of birth control pills and condoms are about 9% and 18%, respectively.
    That is actually really high.
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    Signals get crossed
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    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
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    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Lol my friend was talking to me about the new NPC tiktok fetish trend and linking me a bunch of stuff and ultimately after we were discussing this and other stuff he was like:

    Quote him
    One day I'll show you something and you'll just be like "oh yeah that's weird"
    Instead of your usual rationalisation =P
    Quote me
    haha
    but then that's not really how I view things lol
    I usually like to contemplate what's going on
    I mean it can still be weird technically
    Quote him
    One day I'll find something beyond contemplation
    🤣 but yeah I'm really annoying lol. I mean especially never link me anything sexuality related because it's my special interest.

    Really is like this but with way less intelligence:

    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    I remember when I discovered this song:


    which has a lyric "you blew up your television." Then like a week later when I was going to therapy, I saw a bumper sticker on a car with a quote from John Prine that said "Blow up your TV." I thought that was a weird coincidence.
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    Safe to say that Tina Fey is the best female comedic actress of all time....not too mention her writing skills.
    Ehh... the team she has around her contributed a lot. Donald Glover was one of the writers.

    Kimmy Schmitt was a more accurate portrayal of Tina Fey's talents. Much less funny. Not to mention all the unrelatable and off putting lgbt nonsense (tyrus?s character). Tina Fey preaching progressive values at the cost of comedy before as well.

    Even Jenna Maroney's character and her cross dressing boyfriend was so weird and distracting. But it pushed the envelope for edginess in the 2000s and was a sign of the SJW woke garbage that would come and eventually try to kill comedy itself.
    oh my god you people can never give it a rest huh
    Yeah but I can be worse so:

    It's fairly unnecessary to point out her gender in the first place (and yeah as was pointed out she's more of a writer,) but this response is even worse.

    1. No one feels the need to do this if the lead writer on a show is male.

    2. Mean Girls is a very quotable film to this day. Obviously better example of her talent too. It's not something I'd want to re-watch now but I still quote a bunch of parts.







    I love how Glen Coco serves absolutely no purpose except this scene, yet he's one of the most memorable characters
    It's true lol.

    But yeah men like this won't like something purely because it's feminine or has (feminine,) gay male characters in. It's fine not to like something because you're not the target audience for it (and you're not.) But it's pretty stupid to then argue that it's bad just because it wasn't designed for you.

    Also I bet he didn't make it past the theme song lol:



    I don't like it as much as 30 rock and I think I probably didn't watch some later season(s) because there was a gap at one point and I didn't go back to it but it was pretty good.

    I think mostly I just wanted a show about the alcoholic therapist character (didn't get enough scenes lol):



    This is the only scene with that character on YouTube still for some reason.

    Am I the only one to ship them ???
    No comment.

    It's because she has glasses. And two personalities sort of. I tried to find fanfiction years ago and there were basically none from what I remember. Yeah there's still only 62 fanfics lol and none of them are that ship or about Andrea. There are actually some Kimmy/Jacqueline fanfics. Oh wait I did find one that features her but it's still Kimmy/Jacqueline.

    This is all that YouTube commenters fault for complaining about that show.

    Also on 30 rock that private detective character would have made a great spin off show. Though spin off shows are usually bad and fail but you know conceptually at least. Technically Kimmy Schmidt also exists in the same universe.

    Yeah this is just complete stream of consciousness.

    I still find it funny that American Psycho's screenplay was written by a feminist woman and a lesbian woman and yet for some reason annoying men of this type often like it. That's not actually true probably. It's mostly just gen z boys and at a stretch millennials that guy is giving off grumpy dad energy at least. Millennials aren't dad's because we're not reproducing. It's actually one of my favourite films too though. (I mean it's a great film so who doesn't like it besides tons of people. I have to return some video tapes.) I haven't read the book though so they didn't write it from scratch and I don't know how much it borrows from it. The book was written by a gay man. But he's indistinguishable in temperament/values from this audience afaik so I doubt they care.

    That's not as funny as the fact that apparently Andrea Long Chu wrote an article about the author (can't remember if I've stumbled on this before or not):

    Bret Easton Ellis rages against the decline of American culture
    ANDREA LONG CHU
    "I never pretended to be an expert on millennials," writes Bret Easton Ellis halfway through White, and the reader desperately wishes this were true. Ellis is best known for American Psycho, the controversial 1991 cult novel about an image-obsessed Wall Street serial killer; the film adaption would star Christian Bale as psychotic investment banker Patrick Bateman. Following several increasingly metafictional novels and a few bad screenplays, White is Ellis's first foray into nonfiction, and the result is less a series of glorified, padded-out blog posts than a series of regular, normal-size blog posts. Mostly, Ellis hates social media and wishes millennials would stop whining and "pull on their big boy pants"--an actual quote from this deeply needless book, whose existence one assumes we could have all been spared if Ellis's millennial boyfriend had simply shown the famous man how to use the mute feature on Twitter.
    No *stomps foot*

    Social media is bad though.

    Like The Catcher in the Rye before it and Fight Club after it, American Psycho is a book designed to convince comfortable white men that they are, in fact, "outsiders and monsters and freaks."
    I don't think they're allowed to claim it. The strange mentally unstable women on tumblr have already said it's for girls with a sparkly pink gif meme (lol was it even sparkly/a gif. I might be yassifying this in my memory. It was in a Strange Aeons video.) So that's the end of that. I don't think I'm going to try and find it (I'm not stepping that far into the abyss today,) but just to take a moment. Spoiler tags don't work on images but yeah:






    Second thought: Why is Jared Leto in all the edgelord films both the 'male' and 'female' ones? (Not literally though. He's not in Heathers.)

    I think I've seen parts of Girl Interrupted or something but I don't remember it and didn't properly watch it one way or the other. I think it made me uncomfortable because I used to know a girl with psychopathic traits. Yes that girl from school obviously.

    Obviously I preferred this:





    Edgelords were characterised by author Rachel Monroe in her account of criminal behaviour, Savage Appetites:

    ...internet cynics lumped the online Nazis together with the serial killer fetishists and the dumbest goths and dismissed them all as edgelords: kids who tried to be scary online. I thought of most of these edgelords as basement-dwellers, pale faces lit by the glow of their computer screen, puffing themselves up with nihilism. An edgelord was a scrawny guy with a LARP-y vibe, possibly wearing a cloak, dreaming of omnipotence. Or a girl with excessive eyeliner and lots of Tumblr posts about self-harm. The disturbing content posted by edgelords was undermined by its predictability...[6]
    Oi. No that's fair lol. I've actually never been that much of an edgelord more like edgelord-light.

    First thought: He's so hated and I still don't get why. The very first time I watched American Psycho I was with a group of people at university (I mean it wasn't part of uni lol, I just was at uni at the time. Dark academia trololol. This was in like 2010 I think though.) and this one girl was so excited about that she just really hated him. I think I get it though because I have a similar thing with Tom Cruise although even then I don't care to see him violently attacked or whatever I just aggressively avoid anything he's in including Interview with the Vampire. (A rare case where I've read the book and not seen the film.) And at this point I think it's more of a tradition than anything else. And maybe it's the same with Jared Leto.

    Mostly I know him from his 5.5-6/10 music.



    There's one specific moment of this video (1:40) where for 2 seconds the guitarist (?) reminds me of Selma Blair for no good reason. That's quite the super power. And I'm always waiting for that part.



    I haven't seen Requiem for a Dream and from things I've heard about the film I'm sort of in a position where it's like 'I don't know if I want to be this depressed/mindfucked now.' So his best role is still technically 'muse for Simon Amstell's stand up comedy act Do Nothing.' Because that had a big impact on my life.

    But back to this article.

    She doesn't seem to be a big fan of his for class based reasons perhaps, but she was a fan of the Scum Manifesto and Valerie Solanas for class based reasons and because Solanas probably had a forced feminisation kink. Which I admit is lacking from American Psycho. But if he started feminising Jared Leto in the film while monologuing to him about music I would have had to sue:

    The Society for Cutting Up Men is a rather fabulous name for a transsexual book club
    This line took my breath away. This was a vision of transsexuality as separatism, an image of how male-to-female gender transition might express not just disidentification with maleness but disaffiliation with men. Here, transition, like revolution, was recast in aesthetic terms, as if transsexual women decided to transition, not to "confirm" some kind of innate gender identity, but because being a man is stupid and boring.
    Meanwhile:

    Harron has been at times labelled a feminist filmmaker, in part due to her film on lesbian feminist Valerie Solanas, I Shot Andy Warhol, as well as a lesbian storyline within her 2011 teenage Gothic horror film The Moth Diaries (2011).[12] She has consistently denied this label, although she considers herself a feminist. In a 2006 interview, and then again during an interview in 2012,[31] she stated:

    I feel that without feminism, I wouldn't be doing this. So I feel very grateful. Without it, God knows what my life would be. I don't make feminist films in the sense that I don't make anything ideological. But I do find that women get my films better. Women and gay men. Maybe because they're less threatened by it, or they see what I'm trying to say better.[32]
    For Solanas, there was this fierce, outsider quality to her unhappiness and frustration. That was a time in my life when I was frustrated myself in my work. I wanted to direct. I had the idea years before I got to direct myself. So I think there were elements of my own frustration and elements of what it was like growing up with an unfair attitude towards women ... and Valerie was an extreme example of that. There was also the intellectual interest of how someone can be so brilliant and her life goes so wrong, and also, that she was so forgotten and misunderstood. In both cases, I felt like Valerie had been consigned to history as this lunatic, almost nothing written about her.[14]
    Strangely I just read in some article that he apparently used to hang out with Donna Tartt who wrote The Secret History. Which I haven't read (I don't read. Books. Usually. Especially fiction.)

    "There's no writing. They don't care about literature. None of them read books."
    stfu Brett.

    But seemed to have no significant notable fandom/cultural relevancy until Tumblr decided to create Dark Academia several years ago.

    Ellis was 21 when his debut novel, Less Than Zero, was published, receiving both adulation for his stinging social critique, and death threats from those revolted by the naked amorality and materialism in his work. He didn't care: he was out every night with Manhattan?s literary Brat Pack -- a talented set including Donna Tartt and Jay McInerney who were bright, caustic and consumed phenomenal quantities of cocaine.
    Oh no Vanity Fair you're not going to paywall me until you figure out I can avoid that by using incognito mode.

    Lili Anolik: I?ve been working on this story ever since I interviewed Bret Easton Ellis in the office of his West Hollywood condo about a movie he?d scripted, The Canyons, back in 2013. Sitting right there on his bookcase shelf was a hardcover copy of The Secret History, a novel I?d first read when I was 14, then reread probably once a year, every year, until I turned 25.

    I remembered out loud that Donna Tartt had co-dedicated the book to him, and Bret said that he and Donna had been at Bennington together--then mentioned that they?d gone on a date freshman year. The date was, I'll confess, a bit of a surprise since it was his boyfriend who, a few minutes before, had buzzed me up, but I rolled with it. I asked where they went that night, who paid, was there a kiss at the end, and I?ve asked him a million Bennington-related questions ever since. It was a casual conversation turned hardcore obsession.
    lol so I guess I would have learnt that if I read the book.

    I don't see Dark Academia fans bring up The Wives of Bath (I also haven't read that. I found out about it based on the film Lost and Delirious which I learnt about from the TV tropes page 'psycho lesbian' as well adjusted people do - but it's a dark boarding school book so seems like it would fit in. Also the book is a lot more fucked up and involves castration but it's not as simple as that. I'm just trying not to be graphic. And yes I did read the plot because it wasn't like I was going to read it.)



    (this is just my response to all of this lol.)

    You know she starts frantically trying to look for paper at about 20 minutes into the video:



    Lol no.
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Still working my way through this video since it's so long. A lot of this info I already knew but somehow learning some new stuff as well.

    The issue with challenging people based on assumptions if you think they're trans and increasing gender policing along those lines is that most of the people you go after won't be trans. Like that 9 year old girl with short hair in Canada who was accused by someone's grandad at some sporting event of being trans... People are really stupid and just aren't good at guessing. Another thing is they assume trans people look non-conforming but many pass or are very gender conforming in their transitioned to gender. This is even more true of young children since early onset trans people are more gender conforming in their transitioned to gender than people who come out and transition later in life. You have to be to develop such intense dysphoria so soon in life.

    Most of the women who have been chucked out of women's toilets or harassed have just been butch cisgender women not trans women. Some of them weren't even butch but were still cisgender like this one woman I'm thinking of in a public toilet. Additionally a couple of months ago in Ireland a guy beat up an 86 year old woman he assumed was transgender and a predatory pedophile and stuck her in a wheelie bin. Supposedly he had 'psychosis' after drinking a lot of alcohol but the nature of his delusion (assuming that wasn't a lie,) wasn't a coincidence. The media is engaging in constant stochastic terrorism.

    Also yeah Kellie Jay Keen/Posie Parker is just a ginormous hypocrite (she's also quite psychopathic of course,) who is motivated purely by hate towards trans people. She doesn't really care about men being in women's spaces as she encourages armed men to enter women's spaces. She doesn't care to prioritise women's speech as she's fine with fascist men showing up to her events to talk. And she doesn't care about people's fertility as she thinks - and this is a direct quote - 'women who call themselves men should be sterilised' as pointed out in the video that's 'be sterilised' not 'get' she believes we should be forcibly sterilised. So she doesn't really care.

    She then followed criticism of that tweet up with:

    Apparently it's controversial to think women who've taken testosterone and don't want to be women shouldn't carry babies with no intention of that baby having a mother IN EXISTENCE. Shame on humanity.
    Well I call myself a man and I'm not on testosterone. I also call myself a woman. I wouldn't carry a child/give birth myself anyway and I don't think this is a good time in history to be having kids as a non-binary person (I've seen how much media attention/harassment many people get,) but I don't want to be sterilised either.

    Testosterone doesn't usually sterilise genetic female people. It suppresses fertility and most people who go off for several months seem to find their fertility returns to normal. It's not a good idea to tell people it sterilises you because in one survey on 41 trans men who had gotten pregnant they found 1/4 of those pregnancies were unplanned. Possibly in some of those cases they assumed they couldn't get pregnant because people keep insisting it sterilises you. And you don't want to be on testosterone when you get pregnant for obvious reasons. But it's kind of fucking disgusting to have to constantly bring this sort of thing up, and that the media does all the time, just because people are terrified about losing access to wombs.

    He then mentions that when someone later asked her if she retracts her statement she said she didn't:

    So you retract it?
    No. I've explained why I said it. I don't think women who have opted out should have children. I think it's desperately damaging to kids. I did not propose a sterilisation plan.
    As he says: "Her only attempt at defense is to say that she did not propose a sterilisation plan. So she said it should happen but what? She didn't personally draw up a timetable for it so that's OK."

    Lol yeah.

    One minute she refers to trans men as poor little victims who need to be protected from damaging their own bodies and the next minute she refers to them as dangerous abusers who need to be sterilised to prevent them from reproducing. On the surface it doesn't make sense does it? I went back and forth on this trying to understand how one person could believe what seems to be two directly contradictory things but I finally understood it when my girlfriend pointed out that Keen is operating on zombie rules. From her perspective everyone starts off as a potential victim, but the moment they are actually victimised as she sees it, they become infected and cease to be Human. The key to understanding this contradiction turned out to be dehumanisation.
    I tend to use vampirism as a metaphor for how people view things (especially given the literal way that's been employed for LGBT+ people historically,) but yeah zombie works too. I'd guess they alternate between vampire and zombie depending on whether they want to portray you as a mindless 'NPC' or as a manipulative predator. (Metaphorically speaking. Sometimes not metaphorically speaking...)

    So she's also posted many times about how she wants trans women to die, or she hopes they die etc. I'd seen screenshots of most of those posts before.

    There's a common kind of very disagreeable psychopathic + narcissistic personality type + paranoid/conspiratorial with a contempt for knowledge that you can't get away from that's becoming particularly influential and powerful. In this video he talks about her contempt for knowledge and distrust of people who are more knowledgeable or who read research. She's not alone Andrew Tate is another great example of the type:

    I have a bunch of medical beliefs that I have zero proof for.

    I refuse to read "research" because its matrix garbage.

    Nicotine and caffeine are miracle drugs.

    The reason my test level is enormous despite NEVER TAKING ANY STEROIDS EVER is 25 cups of coffee and 20 cigars a day.
    Plus the fact that my mind is at constant war and my body reacts to the fact that THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL ME.
    I haven?t slept properly in months.

    But I?ve never wasted a single minute.

    We must prepare for war.
    Mainstream media, news, teachers, parents, friends, everyone and everything is defining who you are on a fundamental level.

    The average aren?t selective, they think nothing of it.

    They just allow programming.
    If you watch clips he's constantly bragging about how much he knows and how he's right all the time. Posie Parker is quite similar additionally constantly talking about how 'she doesn't lose.' The point where I thought 'oh this woman is a psychopath' though actually had nothing to do with this debate it was watching a clip of her sinisterly talking about what she'd do if her husband ever left her.

    I wanted to say low intelligence but that doesn't exactly make sense in Tate's case his father was an attorney and professional chess player and he grew up playing chess in tournaments I think, so it seems unlikely that that is an issue per se. I think Tate is more unstable than Posie Parker like he's falling to pieces but that's to be expected given he's been locked up in prison lately etc and since he's male he's not getting away with the same level of shit.

    I know more about Tate's background too then Keen's that's always interesting to explore. Eg:

    I was raised by a single mother in England.

    I wouldn't call my mother particularly nice or soft.

    In fact - my mother was mean and hard.
    I believe he means this as a compliment. It's not how he expects women in general to be or how he talks about women, but it is what he expects from his daughter (for her to be hard.)

    I usually saw my dad about once a year when he would visit and I remember one time they had a MASSIVE argument.

    I was about 13. Dad had come to visit.

    The day before he arrived mum took me to get a haircut at a place I didn?t normally go.

    They cut it differently. Mum didn?t like it.

    It was the first time I had seen dad in a year.

    We were sitting in the living room.

    "I don?t like how they cut your hair Andrew"

    I was a kid. My mother told me my hair was shit. What else am I gonna reply?

    Me: me neither.

    Mum: yes we won?t go there again

    Me: can we go to the normal place next time?

    Dad stands up from the couch: WHAT THE [BEEP] ARE YOU DOING?
    Dad lost his mind.

    What the [BEEP] is wrong with you woman?

    YOU'RE RAISING MY SON TO BE A [BEEP]? Crying about his haircut?

    This is the kinda man you?re raising when I?m not around?

    Mum started screaming back calling dad crazy and telling him to leave the house.

    My dad was a 0-100 kinda guy. From silence to SCREAMING out of nowhere.

    Now mum's crying and tells dad to get out of the house or she?s calling the police.

    Dad leaves. One hour into seeing him first time in a year.

    Mum: your dad is crazy it?s only a haircut see why I can?t be around your dad anymore.

    Next day dad calls the house and tells me to go to the hotel he's staying at.

    I go. We play chess.

    "Your mother does the best she can. But she?s still a female" he said.

    I didn?t reply.

    "Females fucking around with haircuts. You won?t be raised into a little bitch" he said.

    We left the hotel and he marched me to a barber shop where he paid to have my head shaved.

    I protested. Why? Dunno. Was a kid.

    But I feared my dad. As if he was God himself.
    I sat in the chair holding back tears as my head was shaved.

    Afterwards dad said:

    Your mother loves you and I love you.

    Nobody in the world gives a [BEEP] about your haircut. When you grow up you?ll see - they only care about what kinda man you are.

    I went home. Mum went NUTS.
    I feel like I had a nightmare (multiple,) about this before I read this (before I knew he existed.) It's very symbolic. He's very symbolic. But I can't go on a schizotypal tangent about hair again haha. I already deleted a bunch of stuff about vampires that I wrote in this post before.

    I heard them on the phone.

    Mum: you're fucking crazy Emory why did you do that it?s only a fucking haircut I don?t want to see you ever again [BEEP] off back to America

    And that?s what dad did.

    He left England.
    My mother complained about how crazy dad is and how it?s impossible to even speak around him without him losing his temper and going crazy.

    "Forcing Andrew to shave his head" became a story mother would tell of how "insane" my dad was for years to come.

    But guess what...
    He was totally right.

    I look back now and THANK him.

    What good comes from a 13-year-old boy giving a [BEEP] about his haircut?

    ZERO.

    My mother?s intentions were pure. But she?s a FEMALE.

    This is very normal female behavior.

    Son with his cute haircut. But it?s unimportant.
    2 years ago I walked into a new barber shop and they said

    "How do you want your hair cut?"

    It reminded me of this story.

    And I told them to shave it all off.

    Nobody gives a [BEEP] about my hair.

    They care what kinda man I am.

    RIP Emory Tate.
    I care a lot about hair and I hate your personality and haircut. You're 0 for 0.

    I hate him often, but I hate what he symbolises even more. Also his parents suck.



    Your hair was long when we first met~


    We grew up in the same town but came to very different conclusions about most things.

    Women and children are still valuable when inept.

    They retain an intrinsic value.

    Inept men mean zero.

    Absolutely valueless.

    Only Professionals.

    Only Ultra capable males matter.

    The rest are depressed worker droids.

    Matrix slaves.
    #Motherless.

    Lol people keep saying fatherless now online. So using this where applicable. Oh he had a mother in a literal sense. It didn't really work though because I don't think he had a feminine presence in his life and his dad kept telling him not to listen to his mum anyway (this is like the second story I've heard which ended in his dad doing something like this.) His dad was controlling and abusive and most importantly didn't care about his viewpoints at all which ultimately led to him trying to give people advice for a living and he hates how most people dislike him to the point of some kind of borderline psychosis thing, because he's been trying to get his approval ever since (that's the narcissism.)

    When we got home, I complained to Mom that Dad was yelling at me for losing.

    She said he was too hard on me.
    They had a heated argument as he explained she's a female and doesn't understand the burden of performance.

    "IF I WAS TOO TIRED TO PERFORM, THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED ME"

    He was referencing a few months before when I watched him be attacked.
    My mother told me I didn?t have to play chess anymore if Dad was going to upset me.

    Dad took me out of the house for a week.

    We stayed in a hotel away from my mother's influence.

    He kept me up playing chess till the early hours. 2/3 am.

    6 am school. Every night of the week.
    When I was young I asked my dad who would win in a fight, him or Bruce Lee.

    "He?s small son. I'd snap him"

    But dad... I think Bruce...

    *QUIET* dad roared and sipped his whiskey.

    "This is a world of MEN.

    You are a BOY.

    A CHILD.

    Nobody gives a [BEEP] what you think"

    Thinking back, as with every single story I think back about my dad.

    He was right.

    Wtf do 5-year-olds know about combat?

    Be the [BEEP] quiet.
    Anyway the lack of femininity is a problem in certain environments:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826207/

    The media depiction of girls' aggression--as an anomalous violation of the feminine gender role--ignores the way that femininity is constructed differently in different cultural contexts. Female aggression is more prevalent in disorganized neighbourhoods with high levels of poverty and low social cohesion [5]. For families living in these neighbourhoods, the frequent absence of a consistent father figure means that mothers (and grandmothers) play a pivotal role. They are strong figures who must cope alone with daily stresses of subsistence living. Many mothers are themselves involved in fighting, especially in defence of their family's good name. Some become actively involved in their daughters fights also and, in doing so, become role models and allies [6]. Even when they do not go this far, mothers concern for their daughters welfare translates into tolerance (and sometimes encouragement) of fighting. Most mothers acknowledge that a girl needs to be able to 'stand her ground' and 'hold her own'. The strength and resilience of women (both mothers and daughters) is not seen as incongruent with femininity: indeed passivity is viewed as a weakness rather than an asset. As Irwin & Adler [7, p. 319] noted, 'Given the emphasis on female strength, girls lost respect for and even targeted other girls who fell short in fulfilling idealized notions of feminine resilience circulating in the local communities'.
    If weakness makes a girl a target, an important benefit of willingness to fight is the avoidance of victimization. Girls' reports of their fights present aggression as a form of self-defence by emphasizing that their opponents 'started it'. In some cases, 'starting it' refers to a physical assault but more often to verbal taunts to which physical aggression is seen as the appropriate response.
    Still cracks me up the only two tweets he's posted with the word daughter if you search:

    Part One:

    I believe that men have the sacred duty to raise kind feminine and virtuous daughters
    Part Two:

    My daughter got in trouble at nursery for hitting a little boy in the face with a toy car when he tried to hug her.

    ....

    😏
    Well nobody will be laughing if she's one of the ones who grows up to be Myra Hindley.

    Not sure how so many people get sucked in. I know in Posie's case there's a culture war going on so perhaps people are just willing to overlook psychopathy and narcissism, but people like this are everywhere now with mass appeal.

    Posie Parker/Kellie-Jay-Keen, 2013:

    I really don't understand prejudice shown by some rad fems against trans women, it's really weird.
    I guess part of it is that Western culture fetishises contrarianism. It's worst in the US.



    Within everyone
    A scale, a voice
    Everyone but him
    Core is black as pitch
    Soul is out of tune
    Advocate of none
    Beware, belie his smile
    Will cost you everything
    Cloak and masquerade is contempt for everyone
    Hello, hello, he lied
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    Descartes was right with his cogito (I think therefore I am). You can doubt everything, but you cannot doubt the experience of doubting. But maybe instead of there being an evil demon deceiving me, I'm the evil demon deceiving myself. I'm formless awareness creating my own dream reality. A swami also brought up a good point about the cogito. During deep sleep, there are no thoughts. So does the "I am" cease to exist and pop back into being when we wake up? According to the Upanishads, we are still conscious during deep sleep, there are just no objects appearing to consciousness. It's an awareness of absence rather than an absence of awareness.
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    I like how my city is called the "Lower Mainland" instead of "greater Vancouver area" like they do in Toronto. I'm pleased that we are automatically recognized as the Main Land.

    I could say "I'm from the Lower Mainland" to another Canadian and they'll know where I'm referring to.

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    The 90's were by far the best time in human history to be a teen.
    And the 80s were the worst! Freakin Flock of Seagulls, Culture Club, and their ilk!
    yup lmao i can listen to 70s music, hell even 60s....the 80s music is where i draw the line lol
    Weird lol. (I just don't think I've ever seen a bunch of people just write off the whole of the 80s lol.) There's lots of good 80s music.

    I was born in the early 2000s, I will forever be jealous of my parents bc they were born in 83. I grew up on this type of music, my dad would even sing Pearl Jam as a lullaby to me as a baby. To this day it is all I want to listen to, new "alternative" will never compare to the 90s.
    I was born in 1991 so my dad listened to a lot of 70s music from when he was a teenager/young adult (Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, Black Sabbath etc,) and 90s music. (Red Hot Chilli Peppers, REM, Alanis Morissette, Nirvana.) It's weird to have been in the late 2000s/2010s and in the exact same position lol. Even my dad started listening to my Evanescence CD's while I was away at uni lol...

    I liked their first 2 albums but seeing Evanescence live in Birmingham in 2011 was actually one of my least favourite concert experiences tbh.

    Also I like alt rock but I think Deftones are a more interesting and versatile 90s band.









    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnI_QIXU058





    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa0-sQg1YM



    They did a trip hop cover of their own metal song lol:



    Like if you told me this was Massive Attack I'd believe you lol.



    Also trip hop is prob better than alt rock too imo as an experimental/creative genre.





    This song is great for the same reason I love The Cure:





    Oh and Deftones are great live. I still think about the screaming vocals on Hexagram live.

    And Tool and Nine Inch Nails are great obviously. (Deftones and Nine Inch Nails both formed in 1988 but they're really 90s bands.)
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    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Also trip hop is prob better than alt rock too imo as an experimental/creative genre.
    Oh that reminds me I forgot to 'look this up/bookmark this later.' I made a note lol:



    Luckily she has a really intuitive name lol (and this video has like 68 million views.) I just typed in 'spoon lady.' Lol.

    These guys are interesting too:



    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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    Can an omniscient being actually know that it's omniscient? How would it know if at least one of it's beliefs were false (like maybe the world is an illusion)? It seems like there is no way to know for sure, even if the being was indeed omniscient. But if it can't know for sure that it's omniscient then it's not omniscient.

    edit: I'm not sure I worded that correctly. Imagine that there is a being that knew everything up until now. How does it know that it's "knowledge" will continue to be accurate, or that it's not being deceived or deluded. It seems like there is no way to know. It would just assume that it's knowledge is perfect.
    "When I know that I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I know that I am everything, that is love. Between the two my life moves." - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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