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    Context: I am an androgynous woman in a small, conservative and mostly catholic country. So I guess when people see me with a shaved head they assume I?m a man.

    I was about to take a major test (9 hours long) and before it started, the examiner said "everyone who needs to use the toilet, do so now because you wouldn't be able to for a while".

    Understandably, a lot of us stood up to go to the toilet and there was a line. So I fell in line. The woman behind me told me "Mister, the line for the men?s toilet is over there". I simply told her ?I am a woman? to which she profusely apologized and said "I'm sorry I didn't know I'm sorry I'm sorry". I don't take offense when this happens so I said nothing and continued facing forward, my back towards this woman. There was about 5 seconds of silence before I felt her hand touching my back and feeling me up while she was saying "are you really a girl?" Over and over until she felt my bra strap and she finally said "oh right you are a girl sorry again!"

    I just stood there and froze while it was all happening because it's not like I could go anywhere; I was in a narrow public toilet hallway and there was someone directly in front of me plus I'm super non-confrontational. But I'm not gonna lie, this happened almost 2 months ago and it still bothers me and keeps me awake at night how cishet people seem to think queers are making public toilets unsafe when THEY are the ones being perverts and touching people without their consent just to. Idk what their point was but it's definitely not to make the toilets safer because I sure as [BEEP] didn't feel safe at all.
    Some women (and girls,) are very creepy. I had that happen when I was a teenager but back then they just did it so they could laugh at you not wearing a bra while they tried to ping your bra strap through your t-shirt. Which of course I was not at the time since I didn't want to but ended up wearing one during days where I had PE after that to avoid a repeat.

    I feel like there's a lot of really weird and creepy and intrusive gender policing that gender conforming cis girls will do....

    Where I live, that's considered sexual assault in the second degree (without consent but without force).
    That should be the case anywhere in the world with decent laws against sexual harassment. Regardless of the situation in which it occurred.

    You live in an excellent place, I wish everywhere were like that.
    I doubt it would be here especially with teenage girls.

    It's absolutely nobodies buisness and if she wasn't a fucking moron she'd know wearing a bra doesnt reveal anything about your gender or sex anyway.


    Askgaybros is a toxic shithole lol. Avoid at all costs cuz it?s ☢️☢️☢️
    Oh yeah I wouldn't go there if I was you. I try to avoid that sub and I clearly don't avoid much lol.

    When Ive stumbled there while searching other stuff I've found they have amazing discussions like "trans men are women" but also at the same time "there's a name for a guy who wants to date a cis man wearing nail polish - straight."

    Its a very masc4masc kind of space I think where they contradict their own transphobic logic when it suits them.

    I'm too non-binary + attracted to androgyny for that nonsense anyway.

    Some perspective from an older trans woman who has been close to the gay community for decades

    Both gay and trans people do not conform to societal pressure to fulfill the gender role for their assigned gender. This is why we are grouped together.

    Our struggle is and has always been the same, and we have gone through it together. Trans people have ALWAYS been part of the gay community.

    Trans people fought, bled, and died with gay people for decades.

    Cis het people widely saw/see us all as grades of the same perversion.

    Also, a large portion of us are gay too 😂.

    Keep in mind. The transphobic gays are a minority in the gay community. They are just an extra hurtful minority.
    A lot of the guys on that sub are more interested in trying to fit in with conservative straight men which fair enough but I wouldn't say there's much overlap given the frequent contempt for less masculine gay men. (There are of course feminine gay men who are transphobic too but yeah.)


    It's an attitude that annoys me in men in general. So as I say I try to avoid that sub. I get enough bs from the right wing straight guys online but there's something that feels kind of self hating about it with a lot of gay men (I know some are actually masculine and just look down on femininity, but I know a bunch also had feminine childhoods or other traits that clearly make then stand out from straight guys and instead of accepting that they complain about feminine guys being 'stereotypical' and try to distance themselves. Some trans guys will do this for a bit too to fit in but most grow out of it,) so yeah it's just not a vibe.

    I think a lot of them are just like straight men. They are just gay. Doesn't stop them from being transpbobic
    Pretty much. Liberal straight men are often more open minded actually than conservative gay men.

    Sometimes gay men get mad at trans girls for stealing all the str8 🍆 ... It's happened to me a few times at the adult theaters... Then they get double mad when I'm not interested in them.. So they perceive me as both competition and someone who rejected them. (I'm a trans girl who likes straight guys)
    Cisgender gay men aren't into trans women anyway. There are research papers documenting this lol:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...nsgender_women

    A 2016 study that used the penile plethysmograph demonstrated that the arousal patterns, genital and subjective, of cisgender men who report attraction to transgender women who have "female-typical physical characteristics (e.g. breasts) while retaining a penis" are similar to those of straight men and different from those of gay men. The study showed that these men are much more aroused to female than to male stimuli. They differed from both the groups of straight and gay men, however, in also displaying strong arousal to stimuli featuring trans women, to which they responded as much as to the cisgender female stimuli. Of the men attracted to trans women, 41.7% identified as bisexual, with the remainder identifying as straight. The bisexuals among them did not display significantly more arousal to male stimuli than their heterosexual counterparts, though they did report a higher number of male sex partners.[6]
    Basically in cis men attraction to trans women is a variant of male heterosexuality not homosexuality. (I think in afab people things get way more complicated and there's less research on some things like trans men, non-binary people and attraction to trans people in any group of afab people or maybe anyone who isn't a cis guy.)

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79870-2

    The present study examined heterosexual and gay men's self-reported sexual attraction and visual fixations to images of cisgender men, cisgender women, feminine trans individuals with breasts, feminine trans individuals without breasts, and bonobos. In terms of heterosexual men's self-reported sexual attraction, models? sex and gender appeared to be relevant. Heterosexual men were most sexually attracted to cisgender women and least sexually attracted to cisgender men. They were more sexually attracted to feminine trans individuals than to cisgender men. They were also more sexually attracted to feminine trans individuals with breasts than to those without breasts. In contrast, gay men reported being most sexually attracted to cisgender men and less sexually attracted to all categories of feminine individuals.
    I think if they are they're probably more sexually fluid, bisexual, or have a different sexological profile.

    Yes, gay folks made some strides but in the process they threw GNC gays to the back of the bus, trans women under the bus, and trans men into the void.

    That's such a great way of putting it lol.


    Maybe its because I'm non-binary but trans masc people have our own subcultures tbh online + overlap with sapphic and bisexual culture + tumblr + [BEEP] and trans culture etc and I'm OK with that.


    I honestly always felt closer to straight gamer culture and obviously alternative culture and I can relate to individual cis gay men from the UK and that's fine too.


    I've never felt a need to be part of the log cabin republican thing and the masc4masc thing obviously was never going to be my thing either even if I medically transitioned as I'm mostly attracted to androgyny.


    "So I found this trans woman who makes femdom audio porn guys. She has a really hot voice."

    "Look at this bimbo audio porn I found."

    "This princess woman is being turned into a bimbo from the waist up with a dick by her evil step mother who suggests maybe she'll be able to get her pregnant like her now dead father couldn't. It's kinda hot right?"

    "I listen to this one femdom's audios where she feminises guys or turns them bisexual and it's just her talking. I know I don't self insert as the guys but it's still hot voyeuristically and I find her voice kind of hot."

    "So in this mind control erotica this straight guy is being turned gay by a guy..." *momentarily interested* ... "And now he's a feminine bottom =D"

    "There's a straight guy in this but he's a femboy bottom~"

    *death glaring me for having the audacity to be into topping without being a cis guy in their desert of masculine bottoms who want cis often straight men.*



    "We all like the same stuff."

    You know what I mean lol? Kind of the opposite of their entire thing in almost every way.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
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    Today in the West is sexually broken (the world perhaps.)

    We ended up having sex for a few hours

    Seems about right 👍🏽
    [Some comment by a straight guy I assume that got downvoted into Oblivion and removed]
    If you have sex with women you could absolutely 100% have many many hours long sex. If I could give every straight man sex advice it would probably just be 2 things.

    You don't have to use your penis every time.

    Sex doesn't have to end after your orgasm.

    That's it! May every man go forth and [BEEP] like a lesbian lol.

    If you sleep with men, errr, can't help ya. Way outside my scope of practice. Despite my blood bank asking me 3 times per year for 21 years, I have never been a man who has sex with men nor have I ever had sex with a man who has sex with men. 😩

    as a bi woman i second this. i've had hours-long intimacy with guys because they just wanted to make me feel good and there was no PIV. so it just went on as long as i still enjoyed it.. game-changer
    Lol I can imagine what he's saying in the removed comment. Believable though. I mean I masturbate for hours sometimes so why wouldn't you?

    dude im a trans woman and i feel like i dont belong here so why the [BEEP] are you browsing a lesbian subreddit
    The OP had satisfying sex which made him grumpy. She was talking about topping a pillow princess and not wanting to bottom at all which is the opposite of what most straight women want because they expect something in return mostly because the guys who don't reciprocate are assholes in various ways and entitled like Myron from Fresh and Fit and Andrew Tate:



    They'd never feel this way about it:

    I love this for you! As a pillow princess I so often feel guilty about not being able to give in the same way but I am super. responsive. I hope that someday I meet a top who enjoys it as much as you do.
    Consequently guys being into eg: giving head is a pre-election criteria that isn't just related to the sex act.

    I honestly think those guys are low key disgusted by the sex act and/or sex in general (I mean I've already forgotten which one said this because these manosphere guys all kind of blur together but someone in the video said that they find vaginas disgusting,) which is relatable since I don't know how I'd feel about doing that with someone who has either set of genitals myself (there's also a bunch of stuff I'm only into when very aroused and not all the time even then like big breasts,) but that makes them feel less masculine or gay and vulnerable and deficient so they have to spin everything to justify themselves in a sexist hierarchical way while also universalising their experience.

    Very masculine/externalising way of coping = very huge turn off.

    I like when autistic (or neurodivergent,) guys are just like 'yeah I don't actually enjoy giving head' or that they don't enjoy intercourse or x,y, z stuff (many such cases I've noticed,) but without turning it into a competition where they are superior and doing anything else makes you weak. Makes them seem more self confident honestly lol.


    dude im a trans woman and i feel like i dont belong here so why the [BEEP] are you browsing a lesbian subreddit
    I'm always thinking about the confidence of some guys that do really dumb unattractive stuff while others feel like perverts yeah. It's the low neuroticism crossed with delusional self confidence for evolutionary reasons I'm guessing.

    Fascinating but terrible in most cases.

    Even when they're massochists like this one guy I stumbled on recently on twitter was into raceplay. This happened days ago so on my mind. So he (white guy of course, this may confuse people who are unaware but black guys basically never do this,) was responding to tons of accounts all white or East Asian women of course asking those women to have sex with black guys and other related things. Often they had nothing in their profile suggesting they were into raceplay and some responded in a very confused way. A lot of these accounts were posting 18+ stuff but one was just a Japanese cosplayer... He posted that tweet in Japanese and she was like what? And he said he didn't speak Japanese and then responded in English and I was thinking dude [BEEP] off. There was another woman who was confused and he was like 'if you checked my profile you'd realise it's a fetish thing' um that isn't the problem asshole. Why are you responding to random women with this?

    One woman tweeted she was getting rid of any black sex toys because 'the raceplay guys were too weird.'

    getting fed up with all the annoying [BEEP] raceplay ppl im considering getting rid of the black dildos n never posting with them again. yall brought dis on yourself by being fucking weirdos 💀
    its always white bois with BBC fetishes 💀 I don't get it
    When you untangle it all it makes a lot of sense that it's white guys but more on that in a bit.

    There are some videos about this but a little graphic obviously (not as much as they could be considering the subject matter but nevertheless):



    "This woman got a tattoo of a spade."

    "Now this same person is a huge Trump supporter. Anti BLM posts. All of her and her husbands posts are about finding and fucking black men. But they're also these huge Trump supporters, covid deniers."

    Many such cases lol.





    Very much not my thing full disclosure so bit biased. When you become aware of what I'm about to say it will change how you view the culture war and politics in general. So I have an aversion to any fetishes that involve a gender hierarchy where normative masculinity is being described as superior which is why about 50% of guys are into it, the other 50% are doing some corruption/disgust thing. The former 50% think black guys are more masculine and dominant sexually at least and a lot of these guys are also into sissy stuff and as mentioned cuck stuff, and like feeling insecure. This gets a bit much for some people too:

    Is anyone else just super over seeing BNWO stuff. I really like sissy content but it's starting to get to be a bit much.
    It's very disheartening. I just wanna see cute bois and gurls and it gets to be to much sometimes.
    I know. All I want is to enjoy imagining I'm a cute sissy [...] But all this raceplay stuff ruins he mood so much, it's not sexy or hot at all, all it is, is annoying a bit gross.
    Some take it further and have a collective racial kink where the point is racial genocide (of white people,) because their fetish depends on great replacement stuff.

    I have the opposite thing almost? Where I like it when people are dominant with opposite traits skinny/nerdy guys, femdom, bimbos who are topping etc, though I like stuff where people are dominant and submissive and I like massochists a lot, so more switchy. Some parts of Tumblr have that to an extreme degree with like being into femboy incels and stuff, 'trans women supremacy' they have their own version of what a hot guy is lol (though technically there are a few types of 'tumblr sexymen') and often being submissive in that dynamic. I joked yesterday it's like 'Christian slave morality' sexuality about some of the stuff I like as the point is treating anything society sees as being either weak, feminine, unpopular etc as being superior to win some competition (since I fit a lot of the criteria too in my case lol.)

    I prefer not to think about how far that extends though. Like I don't conciously think this when I'm just thinking about someone I think is cute and I like to think that's seperate from kink stuff it also kind of kills romance thinking about stuff in a competitive way so I don't like that, it's ego-dystonic. Reminds me of this again too:



    Meanwhile a lot of the raceplay guys are right wing too (like the woman in the Kat Blaque video who was a Trump supporter,) its like their version of liberal women who post about wanting to have sex with MAGA guys on that one subreddit but that's more about it being disgusting to them than hierarchical - corruption again. Some people are into raceplay for disgust/corruption based reasons too. Or it's like trans guys who are into being misgendered or feminised and having sex with men. There are varying degrees of it ranging from feminisation to full on detransistion stuff.

    Tumblr couldn't even do that kink in a normal way and just had the misgender thing become trans women turning into femboy incel gamers and then being dominant and then the trans masc person would be a woman so mutual detrans, which honestly killed me because of course. Sometimes a trans masc person or cis woman in general would also pretend to be a terf and every blog was like 'cis men don't interact.'

    do people on here know about the microfetish culture that basically is like cis lesbians and cafabs w a 'misogyny fetish' but the person dominating them is basically like a parody vision of an incel gamer trans woman
    i've seen the normal version of this a lot but never where the cnc guy who turns you straight/cis is trans themself
    i've seen "normal" versions of that which isn't this [BEEP] either tbf 😭
    Some people vote politically based on fetishes.. Lots of toilet sex stuff too. This has all happened because politics and the culture war has become one of the most sacred and therefor taboo things in our culture. I've been studying this because of my special interest in sexology coupled with my bad habit of engaging/reading ragebait political discourse.)

    There are 35325252 videos about this guy at this point and I spoke about him before but just saw this and it's yet another weird 'it's personal' political guy....:



    He's been dressing up daily multiple times in feminine 'female clothing' for months now to 'own the libs'.
    The impulse is pure
    Sometimes our circuits get shorted
    By external interference

    Signals get crossed
    And the balance distorted
    By internal incoherence

    A tired mind become a shape-shifter
    Everybody need a mood lifter
    Everybody need reverse polarity

    Everybody got mixed feelings
    About the function and the form
    Everybody got to deviate
    From the norm

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